Looking for ideas regarding water element

[Ghost in the Machine]

I’m looking to use the water element for destructive purposes, ie black magick. I know it’s generally used for attraction rituals, but I really want to use it in this way. Just wondering if anybody else has used it in this way and how one would go about using it in this way. Would it be as simple as just visualizing your target drowning or being ripped apart by sharks? Or maybe creating a water elemental would be a better way to go? I have plenty of experience in invoking the water element.

Using the elements is very advanced and potentially dangerous. Even I'm extremely cautious about their uses and have only ever used the fire element to warm myself up in these cold winter months. I can't even take full breaths in otherwise that's too much fire. Just the other day to warm my hands waiting for the bus, I take one or two breaths of the fire element so shallow that my diaphragm hardly even moves half an inch and my hands started sweating in just roughly a minute. I've accidentally taken a sharp breath with too much focus in of the fire element to warm my whole body once and accidentally burnt a small spot on my back.

Naturally though the fire element is my most primary one so I have a lot of it and this could probably have contributed to these results... but still, Maxine does not joke around on the information page of the elements when she says you must start slow and be very careful, and if you're using them destructively upon someone else then you better have damn good focus and directing through will. Accidentally putting it on yourself could be lethal if it's far too much.

What exactly is your intention in their use specifically? Overwhelm the individuals spiritual elements to cause spiritual problems in their soul? Or do you actually want them to drown or be ripped apart by sharks?...

 

[MoonlessNight666]

I’m looking to use the water element for destructive purposes, ie black magick. I know it’s generally used for attraction rituals, but I really want to use it in this way. Just wondering if anybody else has used it in this way and how one would go about using it in this way. Would it be as simple as just visualizing your target drowning or being ripped apart by sharks? Or maybe creating a water elemental would be a better way to go? I have plenty of experience in invoking the water element.

First of all, I have never done this myself so if you are looking for a response coming from experience totally feel free to ignore my words.

Since this is a destruction ritual you want to put as much mental distance as possible from the destructive energies so my advice would be to create a thought form made of water that acts as a connector between the victim/specific chakra and very nasty energy.


Maybe 2 small pyramids on rotating anti-clockwise to collect nasty astral stuff and a second pyramid rotating clockwise to project this negative energy with a lazer focus to a specific chakra.

Once again I have never done this, so this is just me putting together what I have learned in the past couple years

 

[Legendary Creature]

I’m not entirely disinterested in using the water element for attraction purposes, as I realize that is what it is primarily used for. So if anybody has any experience or insights on how to use the water element for attraction purposes, that would also be greatly appreciated.

I’m really just looking to make use of and become proficient in water magick in a general sense. I tend to be more interested in destruction rituals, but like I said, any insight into how to use the water element for attraction purposes would be appreciated.

I didn’t really find much information on the JoS website regarding water elementals, so I am eager to learn more about them, such as how often to feed them with energy, the best way to feed them, etc.

 

[FancyMancy]

Even I'm

Are you a super-duper God?

 

[Specter]

I’m looking to use the water element for destructive purposes, ie black magick. I know it’s generally used for attraction rituals, but I really want to use it in this way. Just wondering if anybody else has used it in this way and how one would go about using it in this way. Would it be as simple as just visualizing your target drowning or being ripped apart by sharks? Or maybe creating a water elemental would be a better way to go? I have plenty of experience in invoking the water element.

With thoughtforms I believe you would do it the same way it's instructed on making fire elementals but incorporating the water element. Water causes sickness, disease, and disharmony. That's just my speculation though.

 

[Ghost in the Machine]

Even I'm

Are you a super-duper God?

Not even close, I totally get what you're referring to though heh. I guess I get lost in my own capabilities but I meant in referenced comparison to inexperienced members. That or my pride is slipping out. Take such things with a grain of salt and know that I don't mean any harm with it.

I'll definitely try to be more wary of that kind of wording though, thanks for pointing it out.

 

[FancyMancy]

Even I'm

Are you a super-duper God?

Not even close, I totally get what you're referring to though heh. I guess I get lost in my own capabilities but I meant in referenced comparison to inexperienced members. That or my pride is slipping out. Take such things with a grain of salt and know that I don't mean any harm with it.

I'll definitely try to be more wary of that kind of wording though, thanks for pointing it out.

I am going to reply with just 1 thing -

Hehe.

 

[Legendary Creature]

Thank you everybody for your suggestions.

 

[Ghost in the Machine]

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Oooh, what lovely information. Though in regards to people of the fire element, I'm personally actually very easily cold even in room temperature and need lots of heat.

Where is the source of this information if you can link me please? Would go nicely in my black magick book.

 

[Stormblood]

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Oooh, what lovely information. Though in regards to people of the fire element, I'm personally actually very easily cold even in room temperature and need lots of heat.

Where is the source of this information if you can link me please? Would go nicely in my black magick book.

That is stated before the quote. You can download the encyclopedia from the website: http://satanslibrary.org/Encyclopedia.html You can also just download the Q-S part.

The experience you related is probably due to other elements. Even if we are predominant in one element, we still have all the others. Your unique chart is surely able to explain why that is the case with you. Personally, I'm both fire and water dominant, but I only find out about water thanks to a reading from HP Hooded Cobra. Otherwise, I would've thought to have a single dominant element and that my secondary element was another. The thing is that what counts toward dominance is not just how many planets one has in the signs but also things like aspects in general, aspects to chart ruler and co-ruler, prominent planets and so on.


I like temperate climates and dislike high heat, especially if accompanied by moistness. Sadly, I live in a very moist environment for now that gets really hot in the summer. I have low tolerance for heat and more tolerance for fire, but my body is not often hot. Usually it's actually colder than average and sometimes my extremities (hands, feet) feel warm, sometimes feel cold but they never bother me. ANyway, you have your link now. Enjoy.

 

[Ghost in the Machine]

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Oooh, what lovely information. Though in regards to people of the fire element, I'm personally actually very easily cold even in room temperature and need lots of heat.

Where is the source of this information if you can link me please? Would go nicely in my black magick book.

That is stated before the quote. You can download the encyclopedia from the website: http://satanslibrary.org/Encyclopedia.html You can also just download the Q-S part.

The experience you related is probably due to other elements. Even if we are predominant in one element, we still have all the others. Your unique chart is surely able to explain why that is the case with you. Personally, I'm both fire and water dominant, but I only find out about water thanks to a reading from HP Hooded Cobra. Otherwise, I would've thought to have a single dominant element and that my secondary element was another. The thing is that what counts toward dominance is not just how many planets one has in the signs but also things like aspects in general, aspects to chart ruler and co-ruler, prominent planets and so on.


I like temperate climates and dislike high heat, especially if accompanied by moistness. Sadly, I live in a very moist environment for now that gets really hot in the summer. I have low tolerance for heat and more tolerance for fire, but my body is not often hot. Usually it's actually colder than average and sometimes my extremities (hands, feet) feel warm, sometimes feel cold but they never bother me. ANyway, you have your link now. Enjoy.

Thank you.

Also Earth is my secondary elementary, which I believe tempers fire, but I've always identified closely with fire and it's my favourite element. Perhaps it could be my Saturn which is in a particular place that directly influences me as an individual, my direct personality, physicality and such. The planet is described as cold and dry. I have eczema, dry and brittle skin, plus I'm naturally cold, so perhaps I'm reflecting the planet more than just by it's rulerships but by what it actually is as well. And my intuition is legit telling me now that this is exactly why I'm cold all the time... I honestly didn't even know that until now... that's very fascinating. Perhaps it could be countered with a sun square, room for experimentation.

Thank you very much.