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So I just got a job and stuff. I'll finally be able to do the things that I want, such as learn some martial arts. However, the place I'm looking at has extremely good ratings, very top notch teacher, and pretty decent pricing. BUT! Here's the catch, he's a very, VERY devout xtian. Now, if I went there and learned Kung Fu, I know that Father wouldn't be offended because I'm not there to learn about that foul religion, I'm there to learn the proper techniques to defend myself, and also be put in good physical condition. However my problem is, IDK if I want to learn from a teacher like that. I mean I feel like he may be preaching the whole time. Maybe I'll just take one class or something, test the energies in the room and see how he teaches. I don't know. What do you guys think?
 
Maybe take a class or two to feel the situation out. A persons religious path doesn't determine how good of a teacher/student they will be.Congrats on the job and so forth by the way.I studied the techniques and spirituality of Kung fu as a kid through my ex brother in law from Vietnam. The discipline and focus is amazing. Havent found anything to match it until I dedicated to Father and started the meditations.
Hail Satan!
Motherwolff

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sij.hatch" <sij.hatch@... wrote:

So I just got a job and stuff. I'll finally be able to do the things that I want, such as learn some martial arts. However, the place I'm looking at has extremely good ratings, very top notch teacher, and pretty decent pricing. BUT! Here's the catch, he's a very, VERY devout xtian. Now, if I went there and learned Kung Fu, I know that Father wouldn't be offended because I'm not there to learn about that foul religion, I'm there to learn the proper techniques to defend myself, and also be put in good physical condition. However my problem is, IDK if I want to learn from a teacher like that. I mean I feel like he may be preaching the whole time. Maybe I'll just take one class or something, test the energies in the room and see how he teaches. I don't know. What do you guys think?
 
This is true, there are too many of them. Im sure your boss is one too, but your not going to quit your job are you? You should be fine, unless he is one of those xians that feel they need to pray before every damn thing they do. 
 

Cordially,

PRAISE THE Mighty 4 Crowns of Duat!

Knowledge cant be rushed, it is power so you must accept and embrace it.
-High Priest Mac Friday

High Priest Mac Friday
Joy Of Satan Ministries

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/HOME.html

From: lunazshadow <motherwolff3@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 6:36:06 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Kung Fu Teacher.

  Maybe take a class or two to feel the situation out. A persons religious path doesn't determine how good of a teacher/student they will be.Congrats on the job and so forth by the way.I studied the techniques and spirituality of Kung fu as a kid through my ex brother in law from Vietnam. The discipline and focus is amazing. Havent found anything to match it until I dedicated to Father and started the meditations.
Hail Satan!
Motherwolff

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sij.hatch" <sij.hatch@... wrote:

So I just got a job and stuff. I'll finally be able to do the things that I want, such as learn some martial arts. However, the place I'm looking at has extremely good ratings, very top notch teacher, and pretty decent pricing. BUT! Here's the catch, he's a very, VERY devout xtian. Now, if I went there and learned Kung Fu, I know that Father wouldn't be offended because I'm not there to learn about that foul religion, I'm there to learn the proper techniques to defend myself, and also be put in good physical condition. However my problem is, IDK if I want to learn from a teacher like that. I mean I feel like he may be preaching the whole time. Maybe I'll just take one class or something, test the energies in the room and see how he teaches. I don't know. What do you guys think?
 
This is actually really odd, as I have recently been looking into taking a Kung Fu class here in my city. I've wanted to take a martial art for some time now to kind of be the "physical" aspect of energy manipulation, as meditation is the "mental". I too, just recently found out that the teacher of the class is a christian(not sure how hard core), but I found it a little odd since it's a very traditional school, but I guess we shouldn't be surprised to find this filth ANYWHERE. But yes, I would just take a few classes and see what kind of teacher he is!

HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], High Priest Mac Friday <macfriday@... wrote:

This is true, there are too many of them. Im sure your boss is one too, but your
not going to quit your job are you? You should be fine, unless he is one of
those xians that feel they need to pray before every damn thing they do.


Cordially,


PRAISE THE Mighty 4 Crowns of Duat!


Knowledge cant be rushed, it is power so you must accept and embrace it.
-High Priest Mac Friday


High Priest Mac Friday
Joy Of Satan Ministries


http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/HOME.html




________________________________
From: lunazshadow <motherwolff3@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 6:36:06 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Kung Fu Teacher.


Maybe take a class or two to feel the situation out. A persons religious path
doesn't determine how good of a teacher/student they will be.Congrats on the job
and so forth by the way.I studied the techniques and spirituality of Kung fu as
a kid through my ex brother in law from Vietnam. The discipline and focus is
amazing. Havent found anything to match it until I dedicated to Father and
started the meditations.
Hail Satan!
Motherwolff

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sij.hatch" <sij.hatch@ wrote:

So I just got a job and stuff. I'll finally be able to do the things
that I want, such as learn some martial arts. However, the place I'm looking at
has extremely good ratings, very top notch teacher, and pretty decent pricing.
BUT! Here's the catch, he's a very, VERY devout xtian. Now, if I went there and
learned Kung Fu, I know that Father wouldn't be offended because I'm not there
to learn about that foul religion, I'm there to learn the proper techniques to
defend myself, and also be put in good physical condition. However my problem
is, IDK if I want to learn from a teacher like that. I mean I feel like he may
be preaching the whole time. Maybe I'll just take one class or something, test
the energies in the room and see how he teaches. I don't know. What do you guys
think?
 
You should be fine, but if I may make a suggestion. Kung Fu isn't really a self defense martial art, it was designed for show... I forget the martial art form that kung Fu stems from, but it was used in ancient china for war. Well anyways, I would suggest a different martial art for self defense, such as Systema, which is a Russian martial art used by Spetznas. Systema is known as the most effective fighting style in the world if I remember right... Only problem is the only dojo that teaches it is in Los Angeles, and it's only there for a few months a year, the rest of the time it's in Moscow Russia. But the teacher does travel and teach seminars on Systema quite a bit. Just google Systema Spetsnaz. 

--In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi ExcelsiThat Man Behind The Mist,
-Dante
On Jun 16, 2011, at 11:29 PM, "sij.hatch" <sij.hatch@... wrote:
  So I just got a job and stuff. I'll finally be able to do the things that I want, such as learn some martial arts. However, the place I'm looking at has extremely good ratings, very top notch teacher, and pretty decent pricing. BUT! Here's the catch, he's a very, VERY devout xtian. Now, if I went there and learned Kung Fu, I know that Father wouldn't be offended because I'm not there to learn about that foul religion, I'm there to learn the proper techniques to defend myself, and also be put in good physical condition. However my problem is, IDK if I want to learn from a teacher like that. I mean I feel like he may be preaching the whole time. Maybe I'll just take one class or something, test the energies in the room and see how he teaches. I don't know. What do you guys think?
 
I looked into his website some more. He listed his requirements to be a black belt in one of his classes. And then I saw it. He requires them to put that foul god #1! For some strange reason I get the feeling his lessons will be a lot more religious than they should be. D:

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], High Priest Mac Friday <macfriday@... wrote:

This is true, there are too many of them. Im sure your boss is one too, but your
not going to quit your job are you? You should be fine, unless he is one of
those xians that feel they need to pray before every damn thing they do.


Cordially,


PRAISE THE Mighty 4 Crowns of Duat!


Knowledge cant be rushed, it is power so you must accept and embrace it.
-High Priest Mac Friday


High Priest Mac Friday
Joy Of Satan Ministries


http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/HOME.html




________________________________
From: lunazshadow <motherwolff3@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 6:36:06 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Kung Fu Teacher.


Maybe take a class or two to feel the situation out. A persons religious path
doesn't determine how good of a teacher/student they will be.Congrats on the job
and so forth by the way.I studied the techniques and spirituality of Kung fu as
a kid through my ex brother in law from Vietnam. The discipline and focus is
amazing. Havent found anything to match it until I dedicated to Father and
started the meditations.
Hail Satan!
Motherwolff

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sij.hatch" <sij.hatch@ wrote:

So I just got a job and stuff. I'll finally be able to do the things
that I want, such as learn some martial arts. However, the place I'm looking at
has extremely good ratings, very top notch teacher, and pretty decent pricing.
BUT! Here's the catch, he's a very, VERY devout xtian. Now, if I went there and
learned Kung Fu, I know that Father wouldn't be offended because I'm not there
to learn about that foul religion, I'm there to learn the proper techniques to
defend myself, and also be put in good physical condition. However my problem
is, IDK if I want to learn from a teacher like that. I mean I feel like he may
be preaching the whole time. Maybe I'll just take one class or something, test
the energies in the room and see how he teaches. I don't know. What do you guys
think?
 
Actually Kung Fu is one of the oldest fighting styles known to exist. It was created by monks in the original Shaolin temple, when the area around that temple began to fill with bandits and other people looking to rob the temple of anything valuable. The White Lotus Society were a sect of Monks who were the ONLY monks allowed to leave the temple and actually teach the art form to people who were not Buddhist, monks, or Chinese.

To be fair, in modern day practice, Kung Fu is NOT considered a "fighting style", even by most masters. It is a art form and a program for physical fitness, mental clarity, and discipline. And while I do believe that someone who has studied Kung Fu for years and attained the rank of Master would seriously fuck someone up out on the street if it came to it, Dante is correct when he states it isn't a "self-defense" system anymore. Bruce Lee actually studied Kung Fu as his original martial art, and created Jeet Kun Do because he found the rigid, preset forms and strikes to be inapplicable to a real street fight. (Further proving Dante's point.)

I however, am looking to study Kung Fu purely from a physical fitness and energy manipulation standpoint, as I believe the martial arts are the bridge between the mental abilities we unlock through power meditation, and the physical manifestation and use of that power. I am also especially interested in Kung Fu because both acupuncture and apothecary instruction are part of the training regime at the school I am thinking of attending. Qi Gong is actually ingrained in Kung Fu as well, and if anyone has seen John Chang - definitely worth learning. :D

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Dante Satanas <dante.satanas@... wrote:

You should be fine, but if I may make a suggestion. Kung Fu isn't really a self defense martial art, it was designed for show... I forget the martial art form that kung Fu stems from, but it was used in ancient china for war. Well anyways, I would suggest a different martial art for self defense, such as Systema, which is a Russian martial art used by Spetznas. Systema is known as the most effective fighting style in the world if I remember right... Only problem is the only dojo that teaches it is in Los Angeles, and it's only there for a few months a year, the rest of the time it's in Moscow Russia. But the teacher does travel and teach seminars on Systema quite a bit. Just google Systema Spetsnaz.

--
In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi
That Man Behind The Mist,
-Dante

On Jun 16, 2011, at 11:29 PM, "sij.hatch" <sij.hatch@... wrote:

So I just got a job and stuff. I'll finally be able to do the things that I want, such as learn some martial arts. However, the place I'm looking at has extremely good ratings, very top notch teacher, and pretty decent pricing. BUT! Here's the catch, he's a very, VERY devout xtian. Now, if I went there and learned Kung Fu, I know that Father wouldn't be offended because I'm not there to learn about that foul religion, I'm there to learn the proper techniques to defend myself, and also be put in good physical condition. However my problem is, IDK if I want to learn from a teacher like that. I mean I feel like he may be preaching the whole time. Maybe I'll just take one class or something, test the energies in the room and see how he teaches. I don't know. What do you guys think?
 
Interesting! Kung Fu is beautiful to watch but I didn't know it wasn't a fighting style. I wonder if Systema Spetsnaz is adaptable for non-military, older, but reasonably fit women such as me. I see they have a series of DVDs ...

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "searchingeast666" <searchingeast666@... wrote:

Actually Kung Fu is one of the oldest fighting styles known to exist. It was created by monks in the original Shaolin temple, when the area around that temple began to fill with bandits and other people looking to rob the temple of anything valuable. The White Lotus Society were a sect of Monks who were the ONLY monks allowed to leave the temple and actually teach the art form to people who were not Buddhist, monks, or Chinese.

To be fair, in modern day practice, Kung Fu is NOT considered a "fighting style", even by most masters. It is a art form and a program for physical fitness, mental clarity, and discipline. And while I do believe that someone who has studied Kung Fu for years and attained the rank of Master would seriously fuck someone up out on the street if it came to it, Dante is correct when he states it isn't a "self-defense" system anymore. Bruce Lee actually studied Kung Fu as his original martial art, and created Jeet Kun Do because he found the rigid, preset forms and strikes to be inapplicable to a real street fight. (Further proving Dante's point.)

I however, am looking to study Kung Fu purely from a physical fitness and energy manipulation standpoint, as I believe the martial arts are the bridge between the mental abilities we unlock through power meditation, and the physical manifestation and use of that power. I am also especially interested in Kung Fu because both acupuncture and apothecary instruction are part of the training regime at the school I am thinking of attending. Qi Gong is actually ingrained in Kung Fu as well, and if anyone has seen John Chang - definitely worth learning. :D

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Dante Satanas <dante.satanas@ wrote:

You should be fine, but if I may make a suggestion. Kung Fu isn't really a self defense martial art, it was designed for show... I forget the martial art form that kung Fu stems from, but it was used in ancient china for war. Well anyways, I would suggest a different martial art for self defense, such as Systema, which is a Russian martial art used by Spetznas. Systema is known as the most effective fighting style in the world if I remember right... Only problem is the only dojo that teaches it is in Los Angeles, and it's only there for a few months a year, the rest of the time it's in Moscow Russia. But the teacher does travel and teach seminars on Systema quite a bit. Just google Systema Spetsnaz.

--
In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi
That Man Behind The Mist,
-Dante

On Jun 16, 2011, at 11:29 PM, "sij.hatch" <sij.hatch@ wrote:

So I just got a job and stuff. I'll finally be able to do the things that I want, such as learn some martial arts. However, the place I'm looking at has extremely good ratings, very top notch teacher, and pretty decent pricing. BUT! Here's the catch, he's a very, VERY devout xtian. Now, if I went there and learned Kung Fu, I know that Father wouldn't be offended because I'm not there to learn about that foul religion, I'm there to learn the proper techniques to defend myself, and also be put in good physical condition. However my problem is, IDK if I want to learn from a teacher like that. I mean I feel like he may be preaching the whole time. Maybe I'll just take one class or something, test the energies in the room and see how he teaches. I don't know. What do you guys think?
 
Systema is a pretty ruthless fighting style. It, and the kike-created Krav Maga(sp?), are generally lumped into the same category. Paramilitary, ruthless, death-blow style fighting that is to be used in serious, life or death situations. It is most definitely a "fighting style".

However, for anyone who is older, or even just not so comfortable with "striking" and actually "dealing" a lot of physical harm to someone, I would recommend Aikido, which is a Japenese martial art. Aikido has many detractors, who basically state that it is a "dojo" martial art, because a lot of the moves and practices done in the dojo, are "choreographed" to a certain extend. The truth behind this, is that students of Aikido are taught very early how to FALL, ROLL, and NOT resist whatever the teacher is doing to them. Most people think this means the moves don't really work if someone is actively trying to resist them. Once again, the TRUTH behind this, is students are taught these practices because if they DO resist, then bones get broken, cracked, or otherwise seriously harmed, and then they can't learn Aikido for several months while they heal. Aikido is also VERY good for older or less aggressive students, as there are NO strikes(punches or kicks) in Aikido, and the real emphasis is harnessing and then redirecting the energy of an attacker. There is also a very strong emphasis on joint locks, pressure points, and basically anything you can do to subdue an attacker without physically striking them. Regardless of what the detractors say, there IS a REASON why police all over the country train in Aikido.

If you haven't taken a look yet, that one may be a little better suited for you!

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "chalchiuhnenetzin" <jaguarcat2002@... wrote:

Interesting! Kung Fu is beautiful to watch but I didn't know it wasn't a fighting style. I wonder if Systema Spetsnaz is adaptable for non-military, older, but reasonably fit women such as me. I see they have a series of DVDs ...

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "searchingeast666" <searchingeast666@ wrote:

Actually Kung Fu is one of the oldest fighting styles known to exist. It was created by monks in the original Shaolin temple, when the area around that temple began to fill with bandits and other people looking to rob the temple of anything valuable. The White Lotus Society were a sect of Monks who were the ONLY monks allowed to leave the temple and actually teach the art form to people who were not Buddhist, monks, or Chinese.

To be fair, in modern day practice, Kung Fu is NOT considered a "fighting style", even by most masters. It is a art form and a program for physical fitness, mental clarity, and discipline. And while I do believe that someone who has studied Kung Fu for years and attained the rank of Master would seriously fuck someone up out on the street if it came to it, Dante is correct when he states it isn't a "self-defense" system anymore. Bruce Lee actually studied Kung Fu as his original martial art, and created Jeet Kun Do because he found the rigid, preset forms and strikes to be inapplicable to a real street fight. (Further proving Dante's point.)

I however, am looking to study Kung Fu purely from a physical fitness and energy manipulation standpoint, as I believe the martial arts are the bridge between the mental abilities we unlock through power meditation, and the physical manifestation and use of that power. I am also especially interested in Kung Fu because both acupuncture and apothecary instruction are part of the training regime at the school I am thinking of attending. Qi Gong is actually ingrained in Kung Fu as well, and if anyone has seen John Chang - definitely worth learning. :D

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Dante Satanas <dante.satanas@ wrote:

You should be fine, but if I may make a suggestion. Kung Fu isn't really a self defense martial art, it was designed for show... I forget the martial art form that kung Fu stems from, but it was used in ancient china for war. Well anyways, I would suggest a different martial art for self defense, such as Systema, which is a Russian martial art used by Spetznas. Systema is known as the most effective fighting style in the world if I remember right... Only problem is the only dojo that teaches it is in Los Angeles, and it's only there for a few months a year, the rest of the time it's in Moscow Russia. But the teacher does travel and teach seminars on Systema quite a bit. Just google Systema Spetsnaz.

--
In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi
That Man Behind The Mist,
-Dante

On Jun 16, 2011, at 11:29 PM, "sij.hatch" <sij.hatch@ wrote:

So I just got a job and stuff. I'll finally be able to do the things that I want, such as learn some martial arts. However, the place I'm looking at has extremely good ratings, very top notch teacher, and pretty decent pricing. BUT! Here's the catch, he's a very, VERY devout xtian. Now, if I went there and learned Kung Fu, I know that Father wouldn't be offended because I'm not there to learn about that foul religion, I'm there to learn the proper techniques to defend myself, and also be put in good physical condition. However my problem is, IDK if I want to learn from a teacher like that. I mean I feel like he may be preaching the whole time. Maybe I'll just take one class or something, test the energies in the room and see how he teaches. I don't know. What do you guys think?
 
Oh, and as a correction, I haven't researched this, but I'm sure Krav Maga was STOLEN, not "created" by the kikes, as they don't create anything of their fucking own.

Just thought I'd throw that in there, LoL!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "searchingeast666" <searchingeast666@... wrote:

Systema is a pretty ruthless fighting style. It, and the kike-created Krav Maga(sp?), are generally lumped into the same category. Paramilitary, ruthless, death-blow style fighting that is to be used in serious, life or death situations. It is most definitely a "fighting style".

However, for anyone who is older, or even just not so comfortable with "striking" and actually "dealing" a lot of physical harm to someone, I would recommend Aikido, which is a Japenese martial art. Aikido has many detractors, who basically state that it is a "dojo" martial art, because a lot of the moves and practices done in the dojo, are "choreographed" to a certain extend. The truth behind this, is that students of Aikido are taught very early how to FALL, ROLL, and NOT resist whatever the teacher is doing to them. Most people think this means the moves don't really work if someone is actively trying to resist them. Once again, the TRUTH behind this, is students are taught these practices because if they DO resist, then bones get broken, cracked, or otherwise seriously harmed, and then they can't learn Aikido for several months while they heal. Aikido is also VERY good for older or less aggressive students, as there are NO strikes(punches or kicks) in Aikido, and the real emphasis is harnessing and then redirecting the energy of an attacker. There is also a very strong emphasis on joint locks, pressure points, and basically anything you can do to subdue an attacker without physically striking them. Regardless of what the detractors say, there IS a REASON why police all over the country train in Aikido.

If you haven't taken a look yet, that one may be a little better suited for you!

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "chalchiuhnenetzin" <jaguarcat2002@ wrote:

Interesting! Kung Fu is beautiful to watch but I didn't know it wasn't a fighting style. I wonder if Systema Spetsnaz is adaptable for non-military, older, but reasonably fit women such as me. I see they have a series of DVDs ...

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "searchingeast666" <searchingeast666@ wrote:

Actually Kung Fu is one of the oldest fighting styles known to exist. It was created by monks in the original Shaolin temple, when the area around that temple began to fill with bandits and other people looking to rob the temple of anything valuable. The White Lotus Society were a sect of Monks who were the ONLY monks allowed to leave the temple and actually teach the art form to people who were not Buddhist, monks, or Chinese.

To be fair, in modern day practice, Kung Fu is NOT considered a "fighting style", even by most masters. It is a art form and a program for physical fitness, mental clarity, and discipline. And while I do believe that someone who has studied Kung Fu for years and attained the rank of Master would seriously fuck someone up out on the street if it came to it, Dante is correct when he states it isn't a "self-defense" system anymore. Bruce Lee actually studied Kung Fu as his original martial art, and created Jeet Kun Do because he found the rigid, preset forms and strikes to be inapplicable to a real street fight. (Further proving Dante's point.)

I however, am looking to study Kung Fu purely from a physical fitness and energy manipulation standpoint, as I believe the martial arts are the bridge between the mental abilities we unlock through power meditation, and the physical manifestation and use of that power. I am also especially interested in Kung Fu because both acupuncture and apothecary instruction are part of the training regime at the school I am thinking of attending. Qi Gong is actually ingrained in Kung Fu as well, and if anyone has seen John Chang - definitely worth learning. :D

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Dante Satanas <dante.satanas@ wrote:

You should be fine, but if I may make a suggestion. Kung Fu isn't really a self defense martial art, it was designed for show... I forget the martial art form that kung Fu stems from, but it was used in ancient china for war. Well anyways, I would suggest a different martial art for self defense, such as Systema, which is a Russian martial art used by Spetznas. Systema is known as the most effective fighting style in the world if I remember right... Only problem is the only dojo that teaches it is in Los Angeles, and it's only there for a few months a year, the rest of the time it's in Moscow Russia. But the teacher does travel and teach seminars on Systema quite a bit. Just google Systema Spetsnaz.

--
In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi
That Man Behind The Mist,
-Dante

On Jun 16, 2011, at 11:29 PM, "sij.hatch" <sij.hatch@ wrote:

So I just got a job and stuff. I'll finally be able to do the things that I want, such as learn some martial arts. However, the place I'm looking at has extremely good ratings, very top notch teacher, and pretty decent pricing. BUT! Here's the catch, he's a very, VERY devout xtian. Now, if I went there and learned Kung Fu, I know that Father wouldn't be offended because I'm not there to learn about that foul religion, I'm there to learn the proper techniques to defend myself, and also be put in good physical condition. However my problem is, IDK if I want to learn from a teacher like that. I mean I feel like he may be preaching the whole time. Maybe I'll just take one class or something, test the energies in the room and see how he teaches. I don't know. What do you guys think?
 
Aikido does sound like a better option. Thanks !!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "searchingeast666" <searchingeast666@... wrote:

Systema is a pretty ruthless fighting style. It, and the kike-created Krav Maga(sp?), are generally lumped into the same category. Paramilitary, ruthless, death-blow style fighting that is to be used in serious, life or death situations. It is most definitely a "fighting style".

However, for anyone who is older, or even just not so comfortable with "striking" and actually "dealing" a lot of physical harm to someone, I would recommend Aikido, which is a Japenese martial art. Aikido has many detractors, who basically state that it is a "dojo" martial art, because a lot of the moves and practices done in the dojo, are "choreographed" to a certain extend. The truth behind this, is that students of Aikido are taught very early how to FALL, ROLL, and NOT resist whatever the teacher is doing to them. Most people think this means the moves don't really work if someone is actively trying to resist them. Once again, the TRUTH behind this, is students are taught these practices because if they DO resist, then bones get broken, cracked, or otherwise seriously harmed, and then they can't learn Aikido for several months while they heal. Aikido is also VERY good for older or less aggressive students, as there are NO strikes(punches or kicks) in Aikido, and the real emphasis is harnessing and then redirecting the energy of an attacker. There is also a very strong emphasis on joint locks, pressure points, and basically anything you can do to subdue an attacker without physically striking them. Regardless of what the detractors say, there IS a REASON why police all over the country train in Aikido.

If you haven't taken a look yet, that one may be a little better suited for you!

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "chalchiuhnenetzin" <jaguarcat2002@ wrote:

Interesting! Kung Fu is beautiful to watch but I didn't know it wasn't a fighting style. I wonder if Systema Spetsnaz is adaptable for non-military, older, but reasonably fit women such as me. I see they have a series of DVDs ...

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "searchingeast666" <searchingeast666@ wrote:

Actually Kung Fu is one of the oldest fighting styles known to exist. It was created by monks in the original Shaolin temple, when the area around that temple began to fill with bandits and other people looking to rob the temple of anything valuable. The White Lotus Society were a sect of Monks who were the ONLY monks allowed to leave the temple and actually teach the art form to people who were not Buddhist, monks, or Chinese.

To be fair, in modern day practice, Kung Fu is NOT considered a "fighting style", even by most masters. It is a art form and a program for physical fitness, mental clarity, and discipline. And while I do believe that someone who has studied Kung Fu for years and attained the rank of Master would seriously fuck someone up out on the street if it came to it, Dante is correct when he states it isn't a "self-defense" system anymore. Bruce Lee actually studied Kung Fu as his original martial art, and created Jeet Kun Do because he found the rigid, preset forms and strikes to be inapplicable to a real street fight. (Further proving Dante's point.)

I however, am looking to study Kung Fu purely from a physical fitness and energy manipulation standpoint, as I believe the martial arts are the bridge between the mental abilities we unlock through power meditation, and the physical manifestation and use of that power. I am also especially interested in Kung Fu because both acupuncture and apothecary instruction are part of the training regime at the school I am thinking of attending. Qi Gong is actually ingrained in Kung Fu as well, and if anyone has seen John Chang - definitely worth learning. :D

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Dante Satanas <dante.satanas@ wrote:

You should be fine, but if I may make a suggestion. Kung Fu isn't really a self defense martial art, it was designed for show... I forget the martial art form that kung Fu stems from, but it was used in ancient china for war. Well anyways, I would suggest a different martial art for self defense, such as Systema, which is a Russian martial art used by Spetznas. Systema is known as the most effective fighting style in the world if I remember right... Only problem is the only dojo that teaches it is in Los Angeles, and it's only there for a few months a year, the rest of the time it's in Moscow Russia. But the teacher does travel and teach seminars on Systema quite a bit. Just google Systema Spetsnaz.

--
In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi
That Man Behind The Mist,
-Dante

On Jun 16, 2011, at 11:29 PM, "sij.hatch" <sij.hatch@ wrote:

So I just got a job and stuff. I'll finally be able to do the things that I want, such as learn some martial arts. However, the place I'm looking at has extremely good ratings, very top notch teacher, and pretty decent pricing. BUT! Here's the catch, he's a very, VERY devout xtian. Now, if I went there and learned Kung Fu, I know that Father wouldn't be offended because I'm not there to learn about that foul religion, I'm there to learn the proper techniques to defend myself, and also be put in good physical condition. However my problem is, IDK if I want to learn from a teacher like that. I mean I feel like he may be preaching the whole time. Maybe I'll just take one class or something, test the energies in the room and see how he teaches. I don't know. What do you guys think?
 
Systema actually is a lot like Aikido, yes it can be deadly and does have death strikes, but it mainly focuses on redirecting the attackers energy using circular motion and joint locks. I actually use a form of Systema that I modified myself to be less deadly and violent. Basically it puts a big emphasis on the circular motion, as most people would fight by grappling, one can easily throw them a little off balance and in a sense "spin" them to the ground where they can either be a.) pinned, b.) knocked out, or c.) killed, depending on if the situation is life or death. 
As for the martial arts as a physical form of physical fitness and energy manipulation, then yes Kung Fu is great! So is Qi Gong and Tai Chi (I think I spelled that right) 
I can't quite remember it, but there is a martial art form that is basically the father of all eastern martial arts, that one would also be great I assume. 
There are also western martial arts that are also good in the area of physical fitness, like Savate, which was invented in France for fighting aboard ships. Most other western martial arts though are wrestling, or sword fighting. Which aren't really that great in my opinion.

--In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi ExcelsiThat Man Behind The Mist,
-Dante
On Jun 17, 2011, at 3:20 PM, "searchingeast666" <searchingeast666@... wrote:
  Oh, and as a correction, I haven't researched this, but I'm sure Krav Maga was STOLEN, not "created" by the kikes, as they don't create anything of their fucking own.

Just thought I'd throw that in there, LoL!

--- [/IMG][email protected][/email][/url], "searchingeast666" <searchingeast666@... wrote:

Systema is a pretty ruthless fighting style. It, and the kike-created Krav Maga(sp?), are generally lumped into the same category. Paramilitary, ruthless, death-blow style fighting that is to be used in serious, life or death situations. It is most definitely a "fighting style".

However, for anyone who is older, or even just not so comfortable with "striking" and actually "dealing" a lot of physical harm to someone, I would recommend Aikido, which is a Japenese martial art. Aikido has many detractors, who basically state that it is a "dojo" martial art, because a lot of the moves and practices done in the dojo, are "choreographed" to a certain extend. The truth behind this, is that students of Aikido are taught very early how to FALL, ROLL, and NOT resist whatever the teacher is doing to them. Most people think this means the moves don't really work if someone is actively trying to resist them. Once again, the TRUTH behind this, is students are taught these practices because if they DO resist, then bones get broken, cracked, or otherwise seriously harmed, and then they can't learn Aikido for several months while they heal. Aikido is also VERY good for older or less aggressive students, as there are NO strikes(punches or kicks) in Aikido, and the real emphasis is harnessing and then redirecting the energy of an attacker. There is also a very strong emphasis on joint locks, pressure points, and basically anything you can do to subdue an attacker without physically striking them. Regardless of what the detractors say, there IS a REASON why police all over the country train in Aikido.

If you haven't taken a look yet, that one may be a little better suited for you!

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- [/IMG][email protected][/email][/url], "chalchiuhnenetzin" <jaguarcat2002@ wrote:

Interesting! Kung Fu is beautiful to watch but I didn't know it wasn't a fighting style. I wonder if Systema Spetsnaz is adaptable for non-military, older, but reasonably fit women such as me. I see they have a series of DVDs ...

--- [/IMG][email protected][/email][/url], "searchingeast666" <searchingeast666@ wrote:

Actually Kung Fu is one of the oldest fighting styles known to exist. It was created by monks in the original Shaolin temple, when the area around that temple began to fill with bandits and other people looking to rob the temple of anything valuable. The White Lotus Society were a sect of Monks who were the ONLY monks allowed to leave the temple and actually teach the art form to people who were not Buddhist, monks, or Chinese.

To be fair, in modern day practice, Kung Fu is NOT considered a "fighting style", even by most masters. It is a art form and a program for physical fitness, mental clarity, and discipline. And while I do believe that someone who has studied Kung Fu for years and attained the rank of Master would seriously fuck someone up out on the street if it came to it, Dante is correct when he states it isn't a "self-defense" system anymore. Bruce Lee actually studied Kung Fu as his original martial art, and created Jeet Kun Do because he found the rigid, preset forms and strikes to be inapplicable to a real street fight. (Further proving Dante's point.)

I however, am looking to study Kung Fu purely from a physical fitness and energy manipulation standpoint, as I believe the martial arts are the bridge between the mental abilities we unlock through power meditation, and the physical manifestation and use of that power. I am also especially interested in Kung Fu because both acupuncture and apothecary instruction are part of the training regime at the school I am thinking of attending. Qi Gong is actually ingrained in Kung Fu as well, and if anyone has seen John Chang - definitely worth learning. :D

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- [/IMG][email protected][/email][/url], Dante Satanas <dante.satanas@ wrote:

You should be fine, but if I may make a suggestion. Kung Fu isn't really a self defense martial art, it was designed for show... I forget the martial art form that kung Fu stems from, but it was used in ancient china for war. Well anyways, I would suggest a different martial art for self defense, such as Systema, which is a Russian martial art used by Spetznas. Systema is known as the most effective fighting style in the world if I remember right... Only problem is the only dojo that teaches it is in Los Angeles, and it's only there for a few months a year, the rest of the time it's in Moscow Russia. But the teacher does travel and teach seminars on Systema quite a bit. Just google Systema Spetsnaz.

--
In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi
That Man Behind The Mist,
-Dante

On Jun 16, 2011, at 11:29 PM, "sij.hatch" <sij.hatch@ wrote:

So I just got a job and stuff. I'll finally be able to do the things that I want, such as learn some martial arts. However, the place I'm looking at has extremely good ratings, very top notch teacher, and pretty decent pricing. BUT! Here's the catch, he's a very, VERY devout xtian. Now, if I went there and learned Kung Fu, I know that Father wouldn't be offended because I'm not there to learn about that foul religion, I'm there to learn the proper techniques to defend myself, and also be put in good physical condition. However my problem is, IDK if I want to learn from a teacher like that. I mean I feel like he may be preaching the whole time. Maybe I'll just take one class or something, test the energies in the room and see how he teaches. I don't know. What do you guys think?
 
Jui jitsu is best

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "chalchiuhnenetzin" <jaguarcat2002@... wrote:

Aikido does sound liattackerzr option. Thanks !!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "searchingeast666" <searchingeast666@ wrote:

Systema is a pretty ruthless fighting style. It, and the kike-created Krav Maga(sp?), are generally lumped into the same category. Paramilitary, ruthless, death-blow style fighting that is to be used in serious, life or death situations. It is most definitely a "fighting style".

However, for anyone who is older, or even just not so comfortable with "striking" and actually "dealing" a lot of physical harm to someone, I would recommend Aikido, which is a Japenese martial art. Aikido has many detractors, who basically state that it is a "dojo" martial art, because a lot of the moves and practices done in the dojo, are "choreographed" to a certain extend. The truth behind this, is that students of Aikido are taught very early how to FALL, ROLL, and NOT resist whatever the teacher is doing to them. Most people think this means the moves don't really work if someone is actively trying to resist them. Once again, the TRUTH behind this, is students are taught these practices because if they DO resist, then bones get broken, cracked, or otherwise seriously harmed, and then they can't learn Aikido for several months while they heal. Aikido is also VERY good for older or less aggressive students, as there are NO strikes(punches or kicks) in Aikido, and the real emphasis is harnessing and then redirecting the energy of an attacker. There is also a very strong emphasis on joint locks, pressure points, and basically anything you can do to subdue an attacker without physically striking them. Regardless of what the detractors say, there IS a REASON why police all over the country train in Aikido.

If you haven't taken a look yet, that one may be a little better suited for you!

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "chalchiuhnenetzin" <jaguarcat2002@ wrote:

Interesting! Kung Fu is beautiful to watch but I didn't know it wasn't a fighting style. I wonder if Systema Spetsnaz is adaptable for non-military, older, but reasonably fit women such as me. I see they have a series of DVDs ...

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "searchingeast666" <searchingeast666@ wrote:

Actually Kung Fu is one of the oldest fighting styles known to exist. It was created by monks in the original Shaolin temple, when the area around that temple began to fill with bandits and other people looking to rob the temple of anything valuable. The White Lotus Society were a sect of Monks who were the ONLY monks allowed to leave the temple and actually teach the art form to people who were not Buddhist, monks, or Chinese.

To be fair, in modern day practice, Kung Fu is NOT considered a "fighting style", even by most masters. It is a art form and a program for physical fitness, mental clarity, and discipline. And while I do believe that someone who has studied Kung Fu for years and attained the rank of Master would seriously fuck someone up out on the street if it came to it, Dante is correct when he states it isn't a "self-defense" system anymore. Bruce Lee actually studied Kung Fu as his original martial art, and created Jeet Kun Do because he found the rigid, preset forms and strikes to be inapplicable to a real street fight. (Further proving Dante's point.)

I however, am looking to study Kung Fu purely from a physical fitness and energy manipulation standpoint, as I believe the martial arts are the bridge between the mental abilities we unlock through power meditation, and the physical manifestation and use of that power. I am also especially interested in Kung Fu because both acupuncture and apothecary instruction are part of the training regime at the school I am thinking of attending. Qi Gong is actually ingrained in Kung Fu as well, and if anyone has seen John Chang - definitely worth learning. :D

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Dante Satanas <dante.satanas@ wrote:

You should be fine, but if I may make a suggestion. Kung Fu isn't really a self defense martial art, it was designed for show... I forget the martial art form that kung Fu stems from, but it was used in ancient china for war. Well anyways, I would suggest a different martial art for self defense, such as Systema, which is a Russian martial art used by Spetznas. Systema is known as the most effective fighting style in the world if I remember right... Only problem is the only dojo that teaches it is in Los Angeles, and it's only there for a few months a year, the rest of the time it's in Moscow Russia. But the teacher does travel and teach seminars on Systema quite a bit. Just google Systema Spetsnaz.

--
In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi
That Man Behind The Mist,
-Dante

On Jun 16, 2011, at 11:29 PM, "sij.hatch" <sij.hatch@ wrote:

So I just got a job and stuff. I'll finally be able to do the things that I want, such as learn some martial arts. However, the place I'm looking at has extremely good ratings, very top notch teacher, and pretty decent pricing. BUT! Here's the catch, he's a very, VERY devout xtian. Now, if I went there and learned Kung Fu, I know that Father wouldn't be offended because I'm not there to learn about that foul religion, I'm there to learn the proper techniques to defend myself, and also be put in good physical condition. However my problem is, IDK if I want to learn from a teacher like that. I mean I feel like he may be preaching the whole time. Maybe I'll just take one class or something, test the energies in the room and see how he teaches. I don't know. What do you guys think?
 
Gung-Fu came from Qi-gong, the entire point behind it was supplement exercises for energy flow and health it became the martial branch of the three over time. Most practioners of Gung-Fu in time show the effects of higher energy flow. In China from looking at it the point of Gung-Fu is the power behind it. It's my understanding from looking at it, the purpose was development of spiritual power or vril.    Systema is interesting but I don't put any stock into it's claims the Soviets melded abunch of styles together and put a science spin on it to train their Special Forces troops. If you understand mordern warfare they don't fight empty handed. Much of the Soviets Special Forces troops in places like Afganistan who simply acting on intel would lay in ambush for passing enemy fighters and then rip into them with heavy machine gun and automatic rifles and such. They where not jumping down from the rocks and "kicking ass" with systema. Which is the subtle suggestion in the claims for marketing adds.   Systema from studying it in the past is a very easy system to get beat half to death with or trumph depending on the situation and ability, or just killed if you want to try and a kick pistol out of an enemies hand and stabbed to death looking at their knife defense.    Much of it's mechanic's go out the window with the flight of fight chemica/physiological adenal reponse hits the body.   If a person is just looking for RBSD I recommend Senshido.com and if a person wants the old special forces stuff I recommend looking at the major original  training system for American Speical Forces Fairbanks and Applegate in the 40's.

From: chalchiuhnenetzin <jaguarcat2002@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 4:12:54 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Kung Fu Teacher.

  Aikido does sound like a better option. Thanks !!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "searchingeast666" <searchingeast666@... wrote:

Systema is a pretty ruthless fighting style. It, and the kike-created Krav Maga(sp?), are generally lumped into the same category. Paramilitary, ruthless, death-blow style fighting that is to be used in serious, life or death situations. It is most definitely a "fighting style".

However, for anyone who is older, or even just not so comfortable with "striking" and actually "dealing" a lot of physical harm to someone, I would recommend Aikido, which is a Japenese martial art. Aikido has many detractors, who basically state that it is a "dojo" martial art, because a lot of the moves and practices done in the dojo, are "choreographed" to a certain extend. The truth behind this, is that students of Aikido are taught very early how to FALL, ROLL, and NOT resist whatever the teacher is doing to them. Most people think this means the moves don't really work if someone is actively trying to resist them. Once again, the TRUTH behind this, is students are taught these practices because if they DO resist, then bones get broken, cracked, or otherwise seriously harmed, and then they can't learn Aikido for several months while they heal. Aikido is also VERY good for older or less aggressive students, as there are NO strikes(punches or kicks) in Aikido, and the real emphasis is harnessing and then redirecting the energy of an attacker. There is also a very strong emphasis on joint locks, pressure points, and basically anything you can do to subdue an attacker without physically striking them. Regardless of what the detractors say, there IS a REASON why police all over the country train in Aikido.

If you haven't taken a look yet, that one may be a little better suited for you!

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "chalchiuhnenetzin" <jaguarcat2002@ wrote:

Interesting! Kung Fu is beautiful to watch but I didn't know it wasn't a fighting style. I wonder if Systema Spetsnaz is adaptable for non-military, older, but reasonably fit women such as me. I see they have a series of DVDs ...

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "searchingeast666" <searchingeast666@ wrote:

Actually Kung Fu is one of the oldest fighting styles known to exist. It was created by monks in the original Shaolin temple, when the area around that temple began to fill with bandits and other people looking to rob the temple of anything valuable. The White Lotus Society were a sect of Monks who were the ONLY monks allowed to leave the temple and actually teach the art form to people who were not Buddhist, monks, or Chinese.

To be fair, in modern day practice, Kung Fu is NOT considered a "fighting style", even by most masters. It is a art form and a program for physical fitness, mental clarity, and discipline. And while I do believe that someone who has studied Kung Fu for years and attained the rank of Master would seriously fuck someone up out on the street if it came to it, Dante is correct when he states it isn't a "self-defense" system anymore. Bruce Lee actually studied Kung Fu as his original martial art, and created Jeet Kun Do because he found the rigid, preset forms and strikes to be inapplicable to a real street fight. (Further proving Dante's point.)

I however, am looking to study Kung Fu purely from a physical fitness and energy manipulation standpoint, as I believe the martial arts are the bridge between the mental abilities we unlock through power meditation, and the physical manifestation and use of that power. I am also especially interested in Kung Fu because both acupuncture and apothecary instruction are part of the training regime at the school I am thinking of attending. Qi Gong is actually ingrained in Kung Fu as well, and if anyone has seen John Chang - definitely worth learning. :D

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Dante Satanas <dante.satanas@ wrote:

You should be fine, but if I may make a suggestion. Kung Fu isn't really a self defense martial art, it was designed for show... I forget the martial art form that kung Fu stems from, but it was used in ancient china for war. Well anyways, I would suggest a different martial art for self defense, such as Systema, which is a Russian martial art used by Spetznas. Systema is known as the most effective fighting style in the world if I remember right... Only problem is the only dojo that teaches it is in Los Angeles, and it's only there for a few months a year, the rest of the time it's in Moscow Russia. But the teacher does travel and teach seminars on Systema quite a bit. Just google Systema Spetsnaz.

--
In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi
That Man Behind The Mist,
-Dante

On Jun 16, 2011, at 11:29 PM, "sij.hatch" <sij.hatch@ wrote:

So I just got a job and stuff. I'll finally be able to do the things that I want, such as learn some martial arts. However, the place I'm looking at has extremely good ratings, very top notch teacher, and pretty decent pricing. BUT! Here's the catch, he's a very, VERY devout xtian. Now, if I went there and learned Kung Fu, I know that Father wouldn't be offended because I'm not there to learn about that foul religion, I'm there to learn the proper techniques to defend myself, and also be put in good physical condition. However my problem is, IDK if I want to learn from a teacher like that. I mean I feel like he may be preaching the whole time. Maybe I'll just take one class or something, test the energies in the room and see how he teaches. I don't know. What do you guys think?
 
I love martial arts. I would like to learn Gung-Fu as well and even Aikido. I have learned some tai chi, kick boxing and kenpo. It's a great way for concentration, energy wise and more.

Hail Satan! Hail Azazel! Hail the Gods of Duat!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Don Danko <mageson6666@... wrote:

Gung-Fu came from Qi-gong, the entire point behind it was supplement exercises
for energy flow and health it became the martial branch of the three over time.
Most practioners of Gung-Fu in time show the effects of higher energy flow. In
China from looking at it the point of Gung-Fu is the power behind it. It's my
understanding from looking at it, the purpose was development of spiritual power
or vril.


 Systema is interesting but I don't put any stock into it's claims the Soviets
melded abunch of styles together and put a science spin on it to train their
Special Forces troops. If you understand mordern warfare they don't fight empty
handed. Much of the Soviets Special Forces troops in places like Afganistan who
simply acting on intel would lay in ambush for passing enemy fighters and then
rip into them with heavy machine gun and automatic rifles and such. They where
not jumping down from the rocks and "kicking ass" with systema. Which is the
subtle suggestion in the claims for marketing adds.

Systema from studying it in the past is a very easy system to get beat half to
death with or trumph depending on the situation and ability, or just killed if
you want to try and a kick pistol out of an enemies hand and stabbed to death
looking at their knife defense.

 Much of it's mechanic's go out the window with the flight of fight
chemica/physiological adenal reponse hits the body.

If a person is just looking for RBSD I recommend Senshido.com and if a person
wants the old special forces stuff I recommend looking at the major original
 training system for American Speical Forces Fairbanks and Applegate in the
40's.




________________________________
From: chalchiuhnenetzin <jaguarcat2002@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 4:12:54 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Kung Fu Teacher.

 
Aikido does sound like a better option. Thanks !!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "searchingeast666" <searchingeast666@
wrote:

Systema is a pretty ruthless fighting style. It, and the kike-created Krav
Maga(sp?), are generally lumped into the same category. Paramilitary, ruthless,
death-blow style fighting that is to be used in serious, life or death
situations. It is most definitely a "fighting style".


However, for anyone who is older, or even just not so comfortable with
"striking" and actually "dealing" a lot of physical harm to someone, I would
recommend Aikido, which is a Japenese martial art. Aikido has many detractors,
who basically state that it is a "dojo" martial art, because a lot of the moves
and practices done in the dojo, are "choreographed" to a certain extend. The
truth behind this, is that students of Aikido are taught very early how to FALL,
ROLL, and NOT resist whatever the teacher is doing to them. Most people think
this means the moves don't really work if someone is actively trying to resist
them. Once again, the TRUTH behind this, is students are taught these practices
because if they DO resist, then bones get broken, cracked, or otherwise
seriously harmed, and then they can't learn Aikido for several months while they
heal. Aikido is also VERY good for older or less aggressive students, as there
are NO strikes(punches or kicks) in Aikido, and the real emphasis is harnessing
and then redirecting the energy of an attacker. There is also a very strong
emphasis on joint locks, pressure points, and basically anything you can do to
subdue an attacker without physically striking them. Regardless of what the
detractors say, there IS a REASON why police all over the country train in
Aikido.

If you haven't taken a look yet, that one may be a little better suited for
you!

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "chalchiuhnenetzin" <jaguarcat2002@
wrote:

Interesting! Kung Fu is beautiful to watch but I didn't know it wasn't a
fighting style. I wonder if Systema Spetsnaz is adaptable for non-military,
older, but reasonably fit women such as me. I see they have a series of DVDs ...

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "searchingeast666" <searchingeast666@
wrote:

Actually Kung Fu is one of the oldest fighting styles known to exist. It
was created by monks in the original Shaolin temple, when the area around that
temple began to fill with bandits and other people looking to rob the temple of
anything valuable. The White Lotus Society were a sect of Monks who were the
ONLY monks allowed to leave the temple and actually teach the art form to people
who were not Buddhist, monks, or Chinese.

To be fair, in modern day practice, Kung Fu is NOT considered a "fighting
style", even by most masters. It is a art form and a program for physical
fitness, mental clarity, and discipline. And while I do believe that someone who
has studied Kung Fu for years and attained the rank of Master would seriously
fuck someone up out on the street if it came to it, Dante is correct when he
states it isn't a "self-defense" system anymore. Bruce Lee actually studied Kung
Fu as his original martial art, and created Jeet Kun Do because he found the
rigid, preset forms and strikes to be inapplicable to a real street fight.
(Further proving Dante's point.)

I however, am looking to study Kung Fu purely from a physical fitness and
energy manipulation standpoint, as I believe the martial arts are the bridge
between the mental abilities we unlock through power meditation, and the
physical manifestation and use of that power. I am also especially interested in
Kung Fu because both acupuncture and apothecary instruction are part of the
training regime at the school I am thinking of attending. Qi Gong is actually
ingrained in Kung Fu as well, and if anyone has seen John Chang - definitely
worth learning. :D

Ut Servo Diabolus!
HG

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Dante Satanas <dante.satanas@
wrote:

You should be fine, but if I may make a suggestion. Kung Fu isn't really
a self defense martial art, it was designed for show... I forget the martial art
form that kung Fu stems from, but it was used in ancient china for war. Well
anyways, I would suggest a different martial art for self defense, such as
Systema, which is a Russian martial art used by Spetznas. Systema is known as
the most effective fighting style in the world if I remember right... Only
problem is the only dojo that teaches it is in Los Angeles, and it's only there
for a few months a year, the rest of the time it's in Moscow Russia. But the
teacher does travel and teach seminars on Systema quite a bit. Just google
Systema Spetsnaz.


--
In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi
That Man Behind The Mist,
-Dante

On Jun 16, 2011, at 11:29 PM, "sij.hatch" <sij.hatch@ wrote:

So I just got a job and stuff. I'll finally be able to do the things
that I want, such as learn some martial arts. However, the place I'm looking at
has extremely good ratings, very top notch teacher, and pretty decent pricing.
BUT! Here's the catch, he's a very, VERY devout xtian. Now, if I went there and
learned Kung Fu, I know that Father wouldn't be offended because I'm not there
to learn about that foul religion, I'm there to learn the proper techniques to
defend myself, and also be put in good physical condition. However my problem
is, IDK if I want to learn from a teacher like that. I mean I feel like he may
be preaching the whole time. Maybe I'll just take one class or something, test
the energies in the room and see how he teaches. I don't know. What do you guys
think?
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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