Knowledge is being revealed too quickly...

[sinbad]

I am not claiming to know better than the clergy or Gods, but I do think this is something to consider at least:

In my opinion, the new knowledge is being revealed too fast.

Rather than accelerating progress, it is doing the same as what happens when one tries to do heavy cleaning workings too rapidly.

The pipes in the walls start to burst and create a bigger mess for you to clean up.

For people who enjoy mental transformation, this is just normal and they're used to it, but most require more time to digest things.

What would've produced a more seamless transition is revealing these concepts of Yehubor etc., and then allowing this "food" to digest in the stomach first, and then later link it to the truth of the matter regarding Jevvs

Since they already became accepting of the first thing, it is easy to accept the next thing which is an additional chapter rather than a nuclear bomb of revelation

Most people simply can't tolerate that sort of mental transformation, as humans are creatures of habit. Long-held beliefs become ingrained and difficult to change

I don't think it is wrong to reveal these things obviously, but I am not sure if this fact of human nature is being taken into as much consideration as it should be compared to the revelation of knowledge itself

Because if the Gods want speedy transformation of the Temple, going too fast has the opposite effect

It is like running to get somewhere with a bunch of papers in your hand because you are late, and then dropping everything on the floor, and now you have to waste even more time picking everything up... instead of just walking there swiftly and graceful

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Now, what's done is done, so it doesn't really matter, but this message is more so for people who are coming to terms with the new concepts

Ask yourself if you are a sufferring from the consequences of too much change too soon

And just wait, let it digest, and come back with a clear head

Arguing now, will only harden your prior beliefs as you will naturally want to defend them harder and harder, which will only make you more attached via emotional reinforcement and "self-defense"

Just think about this on your own first, instead of letting old attachments cloud your clarity of the future

Contemplate, BOTH how the ToZ (and humanity) will be either BETTER or WORSE OFF than before with these new tools of the lithurgical terms

Weigh them both out in your head, and you will reach a more balanced logic with which to then discuss on the forums from a place of calmness and wider understanding and allow you to consider the opinions of the opposing side

Instead of letting emotion cloud reason... there is a time and place for emotion, but this isn't one of them.

 

[Heimdall]

We all have to believe that HPHC and the God's know what Their doing. But yes, we all need time to mentally digest and integrate it into our lives.
The main point is that the old thinking of Yehubor and it's associated concepts of "evil" and "hate" have led mankind down a very dark road and drastically limited our evolution.
I'm still getting my head around it, as I expect most here are. It will take time, but once it becomes accepted thinking in the universal psyche then mankind evolution will take a different direction.

 

[Hs666]

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This has been mentioned several times. The timing and methods are precise.

The reaction to new knowledge is not due to “speed” but to the unconscious clash between the remnants of Yehubor and the Divine Logos. You can see that this does not apply to everyone. This is enough to understand that the problem is not “speed.”

When you’ve been told to trust the Gods and follow their advice, and you fail to do so, you pay the consequences. The “timing” won’t wait for you. Things have their own rhythm, and you must follow it.

Joining at the last minute is not a viable strategy.

 

[Isothemides]

To my knowledge, the Clergy has been planning all of this for years, directly under the supervision of the Gods.

There are many sections that are still in the works that have been announced years ago; e.g. the reworked section on the Gods. I know that your intentions are positive, but the Gods are supervising all of these new additions; you are not forced to trust the Clergy dogmatically, however, a Zevist of common sense would understand that changes of this scale would be supervised by the Gods. As we know, the Gods are beings far more wise and Divine than any of us, it is quite arrogant of you to assume that their judgement would be "speedy." There are also many things also going on behind the scenes that you and I do not know of.

Once again, all of this has been the original intention of the JoS and ToZ, timing is a matter I would personally leave to the Clergy, who are, naturally, guided by the Gods.
The High Priest has also stated that the God Rituals are based on the timing of the Gods rather than his own, so I presume that the new updates function on similar principles.

If you have any concerns, there is always the option to fill out the feedback form; this is open to all Zevists and your matter will be appropriately responded to.

 

[Check email please]

It does feel fast, to the point i had a dream this week of the clergy stopping work on ToZ website, when i asked them, HPL told me they building a whole new website, all new. New rituals etc..[this is in dream not real life ]

when i woke up i was glad it is not that fast, but it is just because i am attached to current situation, this is just psychological. I love the new updates.

 

[NigredoMax]

Contemplate, BOTH how the ToZ (and humanity) will be either BETTER or WORSE OFF than before with these new tools of the lithurgical terms

Weigh them both out in your head, and you will reach a more balanced logic with which to then discuss on the forums from a place of calmness and wider understanding and allow you to consider the opinions of the opposing side

Instead of letting emotion cloud reason... there is a time and place for emotion, but this isn't one of them.

This is what I had to do. When all the info dropped I had a gut reaction of displeasure, but couldn't articulate why. Funnily enough I agreed with a lot of the ideas behind the changes. I recognized the feelings and put them to the side until I could meditate on what it is that was bothering me. The feeling of a large change was certainly a part of it, but the main part was from my own projection.

There has been a regular trend going on for a long time where a group/community starts out niche, the members who fit into this niche community give it traction, the leaders see this traction and then decide to change in order to go more mainstream or for better optics, and then the original niche members are told there is no place for them in the community that they helped build. I won't speak for others, but there were enough boxes ticked on the many changes in the TOZ that fit the pattern to incite a reflexive negative reaction from me. Now this was just projection as I said earlier, there has been no "You don't belong here anymore and need to leave" message from the clergy. I see no issue with the no politics rule as long as it's evenly applied and not just selective in order to punish certain members.

I'm sure any brothers and sisters currently sorting out their own emotions will also reach their own peace and then continue on their advancement journey. In this fact I think it is fine that so much was dropped so quickly. If I can work through my feelings, the many others who are much more intelligent and wise than I will figure it all out as well. I have trust in them and of course in the actions of the clergy.

Hail Zeus!

 

[Inquisitor⥀Veritas]

All is well, everyone will move at their own pace of this understanding as they go along. I too was overwhelmed for a minute, but now i am just accepting that this is for the best of everyone here, not that i was ever doubting it to be clear. We are not in a race against each other on the path or anything like that, take your time and understand what you can. We are all walking the path of the Gods together, yet we also at the same time are doing so seperately too. I just say dive in head first as this is how things are now, or at least this is what i am doing, i have complete trust in our Clergy on these matters. To be clear here i am not saying others don't have trust in the Clergy on this, just want to avoid any potential misunderstandings here before they could even begin from my words.