Just a reminder 😅

[Tethys333]

@Tethys333
Without going through each thing, it's not easy to be specific off the top of my head, but it seems like an overload of information.

Listen, you'll never hear me talking nonsense, let alone adding extra information to the conversation. The situation is this: accept the fact that the calendar is only available to HoO members. This is the decision of the Clergy and must be respected.
HoO is not unattainable, quite the contrary. You have already been told that you are not being asked to donate a large sum, but even just one dollar. Or you can contribute to helping ToZ with an activity.
That said, the decision is yours.

Furthermore, just to respond to what you said to my brothers, I believe you have been on ToZ for many years now, and it is very sad to consider a clergy and a family with whom you have fought to be strangers. Especially since, from the beginning, the goal has always been to establish a relationship of trust between us.
As for new members, they have the right, before joining ToZ, to get to know us and the Gods through our website. When a person has the opportunity, they will donate; no one here forces them to. But I find it unfair to make it free for everyone after all the work that has been done and is still being done.

Enough with things being handed to us on a silver platter, right?

 

[Blackmage666]

I typed more here, but I deleted it. Any who know enough about me would know that I would reply to each and every single point, and say whatever. I deleted it. Instead, here's my reply.


It's not about me. I said the calendar - not other things in tier 1 and not other tiers, but the calendar - should be free. Some people don't like spending money online, and some people don't like giving money to - to be honest - strangers.


@May Flower
No, I was just making a point. I didn't mean that I intend to make things worse for myself. The Universe seems to do that for; rather, against, me already. It has been that things seem to be taken away from me. I can only presume that in a previous life, I did a lot of selfish things, taking away from others, so presumably I brought this on myself now with how things have been (as someone said or suggested that in the next life, one is placed somewhere where they are unable to cause the same problems or do the same thing as they did in a previous life - if that is true, I don't know). Regarding saying that I don't know what the fuck I'm doing, if I have Zeus's ear or another God or Goddess's ear, then They know what else I also mean by that. It's not just one single thing.


@Aquarius
In the last 10+ years, I have meditated and studied. I've shared some of the results I have had. The results of doing meditations here are undeniable. I didn't have any proper results in christianity. I have undeniable results here in Temple of Zeus.


@MasterJ192216
My Mind tends to freeze-up with it. I know Astrology is important and must be overcome. In other subjects that I am interested in, it doesn't sink-in, despite being into it and trying repeatedly. There have been things that have worked. There is a huge... thing that I can't seem to get across.


@Priest - Alexandros Iowno I didn't mean to sound like I must be given it/others must give me it. I meant the calendar should be free. It that sounded like a demand, then that's not how I meant it.


@BlackOnyx8 [SG]
I thought sharing links to the sites elsewhere is doing things for here. I thought my posts about copper, silver and gold coins analogy; the blatant anti-White racism in White Countries; the things about sexual abuse within christianity; how Humans are better than the abrahamic "god" and showing examples of how, for anyone who might be on the fence; etc. are all of value. Me posting those types of posts, and other things, and also promoting JoS/ToZ elsewhere is not being parasitic and valueless, I thought. Did you receive word that this is the reason I wasn't given access free, or is it because I am less-polite than most people here? Be honest. I actually haven't registered on HoO.


@fuoco blu 666
I don't know how much work goes into the calendars, but I meant they should be free to help make it easier and quicker.


@High Priestess Lydia
I don't consider the calendars to be worthless. Not at all. I don't know how to make my point clearer. I know you didn't say this, but - it's not about me, it's not self-pity, it's not demanding, it's not entitlement... I can't speak for anyone else, but buying the calendar, I would feel wrong to keep it to myself. I would have to release it to others. No, that is not spite/rebellion against having to pay for it. It wouldn't feel, seem, be fair to keep it to myself.


@Demonic
Thanks. I'll have to read through what you said later.


@616Taysha
I have read through most, if not all, of it. Numerous times. There seems to be a lock or a block or something. Maybe I overthink about it. I don't know.


@Donovandal
I disagree with "you can't teach an old dog new tricks" now that I have had undeniable experiences with meditating from the materials given here on ToZ/JoS. Perhaps - and I am only guessing - if I really applied myself properly and was under pressure for it, I might do well. I suppose I've been coasting.

What would be the point? That's yet another coincidence. I'm not asking you the following, but I'm just making a point. Quite recently, I was really upset about something and I said to Zeus, or another God or Goddess who might have been there, that I don't think I'm supposed to be a God one day. I've also been so low that I wanted Zeus to kill me, or wait until I die, and dissipate my Soul and use the constituent Energies for His own uses... Consider, in an extreme example, if any God or Goddess was once upon a time an evil piece of shit on X Planet... reincarnated, lived a shit life, then managed to improve Themself to become Godly now... They would remember what bad, terrible, whatever things they did, but now are Godly and helpful and with status and ability. I'm not saying I've been evil or terrible or anything like that (and I speculated a bit ago about possibly having been in a previous life), but upon me being a God one day, with whatever history behind me... I'm referring to the implications of me being in a position of Godliness in real-life after whatever in the past. Can [insert extreme criminal here] be redeemed and earn a place in the Pantheon?! One day become as powerful as any particular God or Goddess is now?! Again, I'm not that bad, of course, but the point remains.

Oh, yes, again. Saturn. Since you mentioned that, I deleted a lot of my reply. I said above that I deleted most of it, but I was typing again after it, so there is more. Bloody Saturn, hey? Dang. Thanks.


@AFODO
Yeah, there's a lot free already. I meant the calendar would be easier.


@Tethys333
Without going through each thing, it's not easy to be specific off the top of my head, but it seems like an overload of information.


@Dypet Rod
Yeah...

As for selling own items for ToZ - I also had that idea. That's something I would be particularly interested in. Of course, I don't know what the mechanics would be like, but I presume ToZ would take a fair share of all profits of ToZ-related items sold; merchants and artisans (is how I imagine it) would, of course, be more-than willing. Happy New Year to you, too!


@Wotanwarrior
There is somewhere that is up and is ToZ-friendly. I did it and it was my intention. I don't want to mention it lest I manage to get my own thing cancelled... It's not huge and not busy, but I did that. It's similar to being on a blog site or Twitter or doing Pastebin pages which link to (now defunct) JoS pages and the old-old forum (the prophpbb one). I also have a Bitchute channel which used to not be shadowbanned or blocked from others finding it on the front page. To me, that's outreach and promoting ToZ and not being lazy, but I don't know what the definitions and criteria are for outreach.


To everyone else who replied but who I didn't reply back to - thanks.


Lastly.
I realised something. In fact, I've been realising this many times since I was younger. I used to be a quick learner. I could take things in better, easier, quicker. I don't know what happened, but the older I get, the more difficult it seems to retain things and learn them - even if I am interested in the topic. Insert X topic here that I am interested in, the information just falls away. Based on what I think is correct in my Natal chart, and as per the materials given here, I can only presume (as I said in a post ages ago) that I must have used narcotics in a previous life, so my Mind is frazzled somewhat now. If that's actually not the case, then... I think I can guess.

Again - some of you here who know me enough know for certain that I most-definitely would have replied more, and about more of the things that members replied to me. After I read Donovandal's mention of Saturn, my tone changed in this post, and I deleted other bits. The change of tone might not come through, but maybe recall how I would have responded in the past, and compare it with this post.

Having been burnt with xianity, I've had to be more-careful this time. Despite that, I have had undeniable results from meditation materials shared here. With the help for Astrology, that has helped me with some ideas and direction and learning more about myself, as well. I dipped my toe in the JoS/ToZ and it felt good, but maybe I've just been too careful here, though, too cautious.

Lastly, lastly - I can remember someone said ages ago that they quite like my hard stance on some things. I think it was about the abuses within christianity and how ridiculous "faith" is, etc., but I don't think they specified. I'm not blaming them when I say that I think that... praise, dare I say, lodged in my head and I've been holding on to it tightly. Sorry...

As I have said before, apparently I need to learn the hard way. Did I embarrass myself here? Perhaps. Does it feel uncomfortable, making me wonder what everyone who reads my posts thinks of me, which does matter because I am here? Quite. Does that discomfort and movement out of comfort because of the previous 2 points make me want, and feel obligated, as if it's not a choice, to improve? Curse the Planet Saturn. (That means yes.)

I pretty much agree. They should've charged us for it in the beginning. We would've been understanding and made the adjustments, but instead, they pulled a switch-a-roo on us and expected us to just be ok with it... it's quite funny to be honest. Nothing much we could do or say, just buy it or create your own. Damn shame tho.

 

[Blitzkreig [SG]]

I pretty much agree. They should've charged us for it in the beginning. We would've been understanding and made the adjustments, but instead, they pulled a switch-a-roo on us and expected us to just be ok with it... it's quite funny to be honest. Nothing much we could do or say, just buy it or create your own. Damn shame tho.

There is no "switch-a-roo" or trick here. Please be careful with your words. At the end of the day, anyone is allowed to charge what they want for what they produce.

 

[MarsUltor666]

Not to mention all the priceless material we are getting for free... Even if we only consider what SGAI shared, the Egyptian hand opening, the square for the lakshmi mantra, all of these are priceless and insane to be shared for free. You can basically already get very rich and afford most of the things in HoO with only this square. + the freeing mantras like Munka and Ganesha, you can get up there. All for free.

And then don't get me started on what HPS Lydia and HPHC is giving us for free... Or SG Karnonnos or the other SGs... Endlessly great things for free.

I think this is an extremely important point.

I believe one of the Guardians said that even the Planetary Squares available on the ToZ website, would be Tier 4 material if they were in the Hall of Osiris. That is how powerful they are, yet, they are available completely for free to the public.

 

[Hierophant]

The lack of of the basic common sense understanding of the value of hard work that goes into creating anything valuable being displayed by some members here is very sad. Have you never worked hard in your life before and really appreciated the money you worked hard for? Have you never hired anyone to do a job for you and happily paid them for the job they did understanding that it wasn't easy? It's just a basic law of existence, for something of value to be received something of value must be given. Why do you even want to get something of high value for literally nothing in return? That very desire is a character flaw, a low class beggar mentality. A human with a healthy self image should want to earn everything they receive, so they and have it with pride knowing they earned it.

How is begging, demanding and guilt tripping for a calendar any different than demanding reparations?

If you receive anything valuable for free it's a blessing to be grateful for, if you don't why do you have the expectation to? And even blessings have to be qualified for in one way or another, not even blessing come for nothing.

Like I genuinely don't understand your thinking. Is there anywhere else in life you just get everything for free for no reason? Is all your clothes free, your food, your housing, your household goods, a night out? Like what kind of life experience can you people possibly have had to even think something valuable should be free? Do you go to the shop of designer items and ask for free designer merchandise just because? You're like those people on facebook marketplace demanding people give you their property for free, or work for them for free.

That very mentality, the gall to ask for shit for free as if it's owed to you is disgusting. NOTHING is owed to anyone.

 

[Henu the Great]

The lack of of the basic common sense understanding of the value of hard work that goes into creating anything valuable being displayed by some members here is very sad. Have you never worked hard in your life before and really appreciated the money you worked hard for? Have you never hired anyone to do a job for you and happily paid them for the job they did understanding that it wasn't easy? It's just a basic law of existence, for something of value to be received something of value must be given. Why do you even want to get something of high value for literally nothing in return? That very desire is a character flaw, a low class beggar mentality. A human with a healthy self image should want to earn everything they receive, so they and have it with pride knowing they earned it.

How is begging, demanding and guilt tripping for a calendar any different than demanding reparations?

If you receive anything valuable for free it's a blessing to be grateful for, if you don't why do you have the expectation to? And even blessings have to be qualified for in one way or another, not even blessing come for nothing.

Like I genuinely don't understand your thinking. Is there anywhere else in life you just get everything for free for no reason? Is all your clothes free, your food, your housing, your household goods, a night out? Like what kind of life experience can you people possibly have had to even think something valuable should be free? Do you go to the shop of designer items and ask for free designer merchandise just because? You're like those people on facebook marketplace demanding people give you their property for free, or work for them for free.

That very mentality, the gall to ask for shit for free as if it's owed to you is disgusting. NOTHING is owed to anyone.

True, true.

Now, if anyone thinks these attitudes are bad, let us wait for a few years when Zevism becomes widely recognized and popular, while simultaneously, access to certain things becomes harder than hard to attain. We are very fortunate here. We are quite like early investors in a successful start-up...

 

[MasterJ192216]

I pretty much agree. They should've charged us for it in the beginning. We would've been understanding and made the adjustments, but instead, they pulled a switch-a-roo on us and expected us to just be ok with it... it's quite funny to be honest. Nothing much we could do or say, just buy it or create your own. Damn shame tho.

Many people go to Walmart and buy a calendar with cat in every pages from 10 to 30$, here you get a calendar that will help you get a better life and yet, 1$ per month (basically the same amount of the cheap calendar at WM) is too much. Do you know how much efforts and time, people have put in this?

 

[NFSX]

I pretty much agree. They should've charged us for it in the beginning. We would've been understanding and made the adjustments, but instead, they pulled a switch-a-roo on us and expected us to just be ok with it... it's quite funny to be honest. Nothing much we could do or say, just buy it or create your own. Damn shame tho.

All those guys defending it and saying "they put effort and work into it, you should pay or make your own"... Bro, they had the 2026 and 2027 calendars ready when they released the 2025 calendar for everyone for free. Think about it: they had it ready 1 year ago and released it to t4 donors but decided to charge for it 1 year later. Don't believe me? Look at the post below:

In addition to the above, High Priest HoodedCobra666 has decided that there's going to be an extra gift for everyone in Tier 4 and above: in the coming days, they will get access to the full 2026 and 2027 Calendars, which can be used for advanced planning.

 

[Blackmage666]

There is no "switch-a-roo" or trick here. Please be careful with your words. At the end of the day, anyone is allowed to charge what they want for what they produce.

I'm sorry, I could've sworn people were doing things for the people of satan... foolish me huh ?

 

[Blackmage666]

Many people go to Walmart and buy a calendar with cat in every pages from 10 to 30$, here you get a calendar that will help you get a better life and yet, 1$ per month (basically the same amount of the cheap calendar at WM) is too much. Do you know how much efforts and time, people have put in this?

You people tend to miss the point. YOU SHOULD'VE BEEN CHARGED US FOR THE DAMN CALENDAR!!!!!!!! Which would've been understood, it's not just about price set, it's the fact they didn't give us a heads up, then when we didn't like the fact they did that they insulted us with words like "entitlement" and "laziness"!!!! Don't give us something for free, then put a paywall behind, then cop an attitude when we get pissed for being charged for what was free !!!! Anybody would be pissed at that. I get charging for certain rituals,rites,etc... but to be jerks about it, made me realize something. We're not brothers and sisters, just soldiers in a war together. I don't expect free shit, only what was originally free, I'm only entitled to what I fight for, you don't fucking know me, nor can you people fucking read(nor comprehend)!!!!! I get we have to build the temple, but if you're gonna charge us for something, do it out right !!!!!!! But, it's all good. I'll still be here for father and the gods sake. Keeping mouth shut and watching. Not causing problems(like usual). Just here for sermons and ritual dates. Maybe even some questions and to answer some. But I'm fucking done !!!!!

 

[Blitzkreig [SG]]

All those guys defending it and saying "they put effort and work into it, you should pay or make your own"... Bro, they had the 2026 and 2027 calendars ready when they released the 2025 calendar for everyone for free. Think about it: they had it ready 1 year ago and released it to t4 donors but decided to charge for it 1 year later. Don't believe me? Look at the post below:

You people tend to miss the point. YOU SHOULD'VE BEEN CHARGED US FOR THE DAMN CALENDAR!!!!!!!! Which would've been understood, it's not just about price set, it's the fact they didn't give us a heads up, then when we didn't like the fact they did that they insulted us with words like "entitlement" and "laziness"!!!! Don't give us something for free, then put a paywall behind, then cop an attitude when we get pissed for being charged for what was free !!!! Anybody would be pissed at that. I get charging for certain rituals,rites,etc... but to be jerks about it, made me realize something. We're not brothers and sisters, just soldiers in a war together. I don't expect free shit, only what was originally free, I'm only entitled to what I fight for, you don't fucking know me, nor can you people fucking read(nor comprehend)!!!!! I get we have to build the temple, but if you're gonna charge us for something, do it out right !!!!!!! But, it's all good. I'll still be here for father and the gods sake. Keeping mouth shut and watching. Not causing problems(like usual). Just here for sermons and ritual dates. Maybe even some questions and to answer some. But I'm fucking done !!!!!

Nobody was obligated to give you a notification on these things, nor maintain the calendar as a gift on your behalf.

 

[MasterJ192216]

You people tend to miss the point. YOU SHOULD'VE BEEN CHARGED US FOR THE DAMN CALENDAR!!!!!!!! Which would've been understood, it's not just about price set, it's the fact they didn't give us a heads up, then when we didn't like the fact they did that they insulted us with words like "entitlement" and "laziness"!!!! Don't give us something for free, then put a paywall behind, then cop an attitude when we get pissed for being charged for what was free !!!! Anybody would be pissed at that. I get charging for certain rituals,rites,etc... but to be jerks about it, made me realize something. We're not brothers and sisters, just soldiers in a war together. I don't expect free shit, only what was originally free, I'm only entitled to what I fight for, you don't fucking know me, nor can you people fucking read(nor comprehend)!!!!! I get we have to build the temple, but if you're gonna charge us for something, do it out right !!!!!!! But, it's all good. I'll still be here for father and the gods sake. Keeping mouth shut and watching. Not causing problems(like usual). Just here for sermons and ritual dates. Maybe even some questions and to answer some. But I'm fucking done !!!!!

That its what they are telling you now, that you will have to pay for it, and you still act like this.

 

[Aquarius]

You people tend to miss the point. YOU SHOULD'VE BEEN CHARGED US FOR THE DAMN CALENDAR!!!!!!!! Which would've been understood, it's not just about price set, it's the fact they didn't give us a heads up, then when we didn't like the fact they did that they insulted us with words like "entitlement" and "laziness"!!!! Don't give us something for free, then put a paywall behind, then cop an attitude when we get pissed for being charged for what was free !!!! Anybody would be pissed at that. I get charging for certain rituals,rites,etc... but to be jerks about it, made me realize something. We're not brothers and sisters, just soldiers in a war together. I don't expect free shit, only what was originally free, I'm only entitled to what I fight for, you don't fucking know me, nor can you people fucking read(nor comprehend)!!!!! I get we have to build the temple, but if you're gonna charge us for something, do it out right !!!!!!! But, it's all good. I'll still be here for father and the gods sake. Keeping mouth shut and watching. Not causing problems(like usual). Just here for sermons and ritual dates. Maybe even some questions and to answer some. But I'm fucking done !!!!!

Poor man can't spare 1$.