Is The Birthrates Of Whites The Woman's Fault? A Refutation For The Argument Of 'Christian Values'

[Voice of Enki [SG]]

Incredible article HP HoodedCobra. Thank you for addressing this.

Hail Satan!

 

[Eric13]

Interesting sermon. I’m definitely left with some confusion though.

I remember you saying, Hitler created a government that incentivized people having families because they needed to recover the population from WW1. At current times, for example, population troubles aren’t huge problems. Is this still something governments should push in today’s times?

I understand people are having children late because they need to set their lives up for financial stability first, but in a way, to me this seems wise, as it gives the individuals time to mature and develop skills for success before having children. Otherwise it can be like children raising children. Cause how many people really know anything at 21?

Another thing that confuses me is some time ago UBI was brought up and then rightfully dismissed as Marxist socialist policy. My understanding of UBI at the time was it was giving everyone a chance. To ease the pressures described in the sermon. But giving people homes, and increase of pay seems almost the same thing. Because many people have children now, without such incentives, but with them, having children would be the most popular thing for most individuals and it’s like the same thing. A basic income and set up to give everyone a chance. Thus UBI.

Probably I’m too brainwashed by the American way. Life, liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness. I guess that’s instilled in me the opinion if people want a family, it’s up to them to figure out the logistics. Because why incentivize specifically family when the population is fine? Why not promote other things that are necessary for the current times. Like environmental things or sustainable technologies or something? Idk. Confusion. Not trying to create controversy, just simply don’t understand these policies. Seems almost as socialist as UBI? Or maybe it’s a very regional based thing that can work is some places and not others? I can’t see how this would work in America for example as it’s way too normal for interracial couples to exist and then if you promote families with free houses then these interracial couple will just make things worse. IMO.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Interesting sermon. I’m definitely left with some confusion though.

I remember you saying, Hitler created a government that incentivized people having families because they needed to recover the population from WW1. At current times, for example, population troubles aren’t huge problems. Is this still something governments should push in today’s times?

Most European Nations and even Whites in the US are literally beneath the media average needed to literally replicate your very own Nation, ie, they are going to die if this ongoing trend continues, or get to become minorities in their own homelands.

The rate of most European Nations, is around 1.5 per couple. This means that 2 people give birth to 1.5 kid, which means they will not successfully replace their current population. This needs to be at least 2.

That is called impending doom.

This is peacetime, not war time. But Whites have an ongoing cultural war with Yehuborim, and this rate has adjusted itself during this type of strange war of propaganda, brainwashing, financial manipulation etc.

I understand people are having children late because they need to set their lives up for financial stability first, but in a way, to me this seems wise, as it gives the individuals time to mature and develop skills for success before having children. Otherwise it can be like children raising children. Cause how many people really know anything at 21?

21 biologically if a person is actually doing something with their life, other than spending 10 to 21 playing 15 hours of video games, is actually a time where people can have at least some personal understanding. Biologically it's the peak of one's personal strength in some cases, all the way down to 30.

So it was generally considered a good time to give birth, especially in previous levels of development, because pain and everything else could be tolerated easier.

Another thing that confuses me is some time ago UBI was brought up and then rightfully dismissed as Marxist socialist policy. My understanding of UBI at the time was it was giving everyone a chance. To ease the pressures described in the sermon. But giving people homes, and increase of pay seems almost the same thing. Because many people have children now, without such incentives, but with them, having children would be the most popular thing for most individuals and it’s like the same thing. A basic income and set up to give everyone a chance. Thus UBI.

UBI is universalist, Marxist, indiscriminate, and you provide nothing and therefore you have no say in it. When one has children, this increases their power over the state, and this is called State benefits and Welfare. Welfare goes where it's needed, not everywhere.

The difference here that makes it all different is discrimination, and how people who are given these, are actually doing something. These people are also necessitated to do something to have that.

In UBI, you are just thrown some pieces of bread to just live on, but nobody cares if you live or die, nor you have any rights. Nothing to do really with your life.

In this case, women were given these provisions and help, because having children was perceived as literal work in a sense. One is creating life.

Other incentives like scientific grants and anything else, fall under this category. It's to make people do useful things while attaining money and to increase social development.

Probably I’m too brainwashed by the American way. Life, liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness. I guess that’s instilled in me the opinion if people want a family, it’s up to them to figure out the logistics. Because why incentivize specifically family when the population is fine? Why not promote other things that are necessary for the current times. Like environmental things or sustainable technologies or something? Idk. Confusion.

Life. How is life achieved? By you being born.

Liberty. How is this achieved? By having a civilization that guarantees your rights, advancements etc. This needs people to exist.

Pursuit of happiness. There are things that make some people happy and others consider these to be only sadness. But many people don't consider family an unhappy thing. It's actually pleasant and relieving for them to have one. It's natural.

There is no limit to the positive things one can incentivize, the things can go on at the same time. No reason for example to not only give incentives to people to go clean beaches or recreate forests, or anything of the sort.

This applies to all areas of life. This is never done in one area of life. Motherhood is just another area of the broader life.

But anymore it's being rejected and that's why birthrates and other things are sinking. That's all there is to it in the West. And this happens because Yehuborim primarily want to get rid of the Westerners same as they want to get rid of others. Slowing down or putting birthrates beneath the baseline, is a quick way to achieve that end.

 

[स त न म]

Thanks for this HP. This also explains a lot about highly populous countries like India and why the majority of people here live terrible lives. Women here are called "paraya dhan" meaning "someone elses wealth" by her own family. The only purpose of a woman's existence is to get married, have babies, and take care of the babies regardless of whether she wants to or not. No consideration for the quality of life. Even families living below the poverty line marry off the women at a young age to start a family, without the girl having any say in the matter. It doesn't matter if the babies will have to live their lives without clothes or have only 2 meals a day. Sex before marriage, sex in general is a taboo of course (how very xian), something the children shouldn't be exposed to, something which should not be discussed because it's bad. And yet the main purpose of life is to have kids (huh, what a contradiction) and start a family.

Girls are mostly not well educated, their higher education is not really important because she is just there to start a family as soon as possible. The girl has no say of course. Woman who don't want to or are not ready to have children are of course the enemies of society and are useless, worthless.

Males are to be married off and take care of the family. Of course the men who are not ready to get married or start a family are just spoilt brats. Men and women are both never given the chance to be stable in their lives or careers before starting a family so that they can provide for the child a little better. No, as soon as they are of suitable age, they are to be married and have kids asap. As you said, this results in the other extreme with a high birthrate and terrible quality of life.

Though you addressed this from a western society's perspective, the same xian, muslim crap is here as well. Different nations, same shit. Just the other extreme.

May your light shine on all of us, father Satan.

 

[Eric13]

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Aaah okay. This mostly makes sense. I mostly agree now. I guess I still kind of think it’s wise for people to actually wait to have kids for development of life skills and maturity though, but I understand this is mostly advice, not actually necessary.

In my experience, my parents had me at 15. This is more extreme than 21 of course, but man did it set me up poorly and much wasted time as I had to basically raise myself. Now I’m almost 30 and barely getting a hang on things in life. So much wasted time as I just didn’t know better or understand basic things from being raised by people who also knew nothing. So I guess I still stand by that. Grow up, get your life together, learn some things, become independent, then have families. This will have a better outcome. And welfare can be used for emergencies. Especially since we’re in peace times, not war. Maybe in war times, welfare can be more appropriate, but again that would be an emergency. Just my opinion.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Well it looks like Jack finally got the attention he wanted. You never should have had to be pushed this far to even make a post for something that should be mostly common sense. It's ridiculous.

Nevertheless, thank you, High Priest.

Jack's opinion and dialectic used, has already been used by the Right Wing a lot, for lack of answer if anything.

It is the opinion of half of the right wing in the US, which is reflected in many places. These ideas are a mix of the Pro Life crowd, and much has also went as far as to claim Sharia needs to be imposed in the West and other things.

It's not Jack it's many others who will have the same questions. But they couldn't answer it for themselves because most of these people only are told to "return to the Christian Values" as a thing to save themselves.

They are people that are looking for a solution, which as I present here, is in the opposite direction our ancestors followed already, and not "Christianity".

I would rather to look at the subject as my race in plight looking for an answer, than to spend my life fighting against a "Patriarchy", which many took a siege against Jack for.

The reason I had to answer was not because of fighting the "patriarchy", but because this tier of propaganda, is really xian, and also, does not serve to save us at all as explained. It has done only the opposite, and increased a lot of imbalances.

I stray away and I find "gender arguments" just stupid and only a result of imbalances. Neither of the genders is exclusively responsible.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

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Aaah okay. This mostly makes sense. I mostly agree now. I guess I still kind of think it’s wise for people to actually wait to have kids for development of life skills and maturity though, but I understand this is mostly advice, not actually necessary.

In my experience, my parents had me at 15. This is more extreme than 21 of course, but man did it set me up poorly and much wasted time as I had to basically raise myself. Now I’m almost 30 and barely getting a hang on things in life. So much wasted time as I just didn’t know better or understand basic things from being raised by people who also knew nothing. So I guess I still stand by that. Grow up, get your life together, learn some things, become independent, then have families. This will have a better outcome. And welfare can be used for emergencies. Especially since we’re in peace times, not war. Maybe in war times, welfare can be more appropriate, but again that would be an emergency. Just my opinion.

Well, other people I know had kids when they were 45, and this created the result of children remaining orphans or with one parent, and the other already struggling with a lot of issues that made them not be very energetic parents.

Everything has it's pro's and con's, that's life.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Well it looks like Jack finally got the attention he wanted. You never should have had to be pushed this far to even make a post for something that should be mostly common sense. It's ridiculous.

Nevertheless, thank you, High Priest.

Jack's opinion and dialectic used, has already been used by the Right Wing a lot, for lack of answer if anything.

It is the opinion of half of the right wing in the US, which is reflected in many places. These ideas are a mix of the Pro Life crowd, and much has also went as far as to claim Sharia needs to be imposed in the West and other things.

It's not Jack it's many others who will have the same questions. But they couldn't answer it for themselves because most of these people only are told to "return to the Christian Values" as a thing to save themselves.

They are people that are looking for a solution, which as I present here, is in the opposite direction our ancestors followed already, and not "Christianity".

I see. I guess something good came out of all the drama then. That's a nice feeling. Thank you again for writing this post. It will be a lot easier helping these types to understand now that this can be linked for reference.

This is just my perception on the subject.

The reality of the event is that this type of drama is nonsensical and causes an array of issues. Regardless, these are to be looked at the source and solved. I just try to find the lesson in everything for common benefit.

The drama itself was unfit for the community and just bullshit going on all sides. However drama is really inescapable.

I told another member in private that indeed the wisest reply in the threat there was Coraxo, asking people what they are even doing. That's however a personal opinion. That's all.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Thanks for this HP. This also explains a lot about highly populous countries like India and why the majority of people here live terrible lives. Women here are called "paraya dhan" meaning "someone elses wealth" by her own family. The only purpose of a woman's existence is to get married, have babies, and take care of the babies regardless of whether she wants to or not. No consideration for the quality of life. Even families living below the poverty line marry off the women at a young age to start a family, without the girl having any say in the matter. It doesn't matter if the babies will have to live their lives without clothes or have only 2 meals a day. Sex before marriage, sex in general is a taboo of course (how very xian), something the children shouldn't be exposed to, something which should not be discussed because it's bad. And yet the main purpose of life is to have kids (huh, what a contradiction) and start a family.
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Though you addressed this from a western society's perspective, the same xian, muslim crap is here as well. Different nations, same shit. Just the other extreme.

May your light shine on all of us, father Satan.

I know, we have all been affected.

India at least, is absorbing change at a pace that will not culturally destroy it completely. This as stated reassures life, but not quality. India will however build out of this, it's a matter of time. In India, it would make perfect sense this is happening, because now India is building towards major development.

The "West" achieved this sometime ago, but the same ongoing Yehuborim virus does never allow the society to reach any balance. In the case of the West, it makes no sense to have developed a civilization, and to just allow it to die off simply because of mental viruses that people should hate their offspring or something like that.

Only Yehuborim could create such insane things. And they did. People build things so that these are inherited by the next generation, and the next generation, continues. In India, people would understand this. People in the West also understood this as it was common knowledge until the late decades.

The West is on the other opposite end, where the changes absorbed, due to Yehuborim, are manipulating people to sacrifice their existence and race over mere "quality" of life. This is a Yehuborim deceitful claim, based on the reality the Yehuborim have made, ie, making family life difficult and increasing the level of difficulty, and many people can't tolerate that.

This "quality" of life VERSUS having kids, is also garbage and a lie. The quality of life is not that much drastically improved if one lives alone as they promise, it's just a lie to make people stop procreating.

Many American lower class people are living in the same way people do in India, lacking even necessities. But on a different level. Fundamentally it's still the same thing though, just no children on top of it. This may sound impossible to believe, but it's the case.

Most people barely get by. It's just that the general level of living lowly, is just a bit higher than most other places. But it's not really "perfect" or anything like this.

I hope in the Satya Yuga we will move away from these unhealthy extremes. This will come from internal spiritual balance in people. It will arise itself automatically in the societies.

 

[EasternFireLion666]

I'm with you in this whole war, but soldiers need also be responsible and not just blame the enemy and enemy programs. It's undeniable how long this worthless pathogen has been among us, but it is undeniable how the white race has survived this far.

I don't think there is anyone on this forum that thinks xianity is anything better than a brain cancer. However most women I know are in relationships with non religious guys that really provide for them and treat them decent. 9 out of 10 are still wasting time with traveling and seeing the world, getting 10 thousand degrees and other useless shit that you can do without. Whites like comfort? Truth is non whites can go without it and have at least a few kids without whining. Most other races hate race mixing. A female friend after so many years of me doing rituals and explaining in a civilized matter all that is happening and even agreeing with 95% of what I say married a nigga. While intellectuals like us try to figure out oh was she a leftist? Or maybe... maybe a xian? No my friend... just a nymphomaniac looking for a big one. We men are so gullible thinking it's about ideology, it's actually about a rat instinct. While we all like comfort and self indulgence in a time of racial extinction there is no time to find excuses for the mistakes the gentiles do. The Yehubor sells poison? Don't buy it, it's that simple. Ok, I will say it again, it's that simple. You don't need to be an intellectual getting bogged out into endless debates when action matters most. I've done tons of RTR and other rituals to see people and especially women still "refugees welcome" all the way. The RTR makes the good guys wanna act in real life. You can't just fight only with spirituality like you can't fight only in the physical realm. It's like the army and air force, one is useless without the other. One thing I keep saying and I will stand by this principle is when the "winning" comes I will not shake hands with the ones that race mixed, promoted leftism, xianity, reported my videos, made fun of me or tried to take me down and so on... When the line of the WIN is drawn, and I hope everyone sees this, the ones that joined us before that are the real ones no matter how long it took to wake up and the ones that came after that are just opportunists trying to adapt to the new trend. The line I am talking about is the new trend, the new power, where social validation and comfort lies. Many will just join after in order to be on the winning side and have it easy. If another global challenge would come and overwhelm us they would gladly do it again and betray us. An example must be set in history (I will not detail) so traitors don't go thinking "meh why waste any energy... if those losers eventually win they will accept us". This will just repeat if left unattended. As we said here a gorillion times, WE ARE NOT CHRISTIANS! If my family here would just embrace anyone coming after our efforts start materializing our new world I couldn't just pretend it's ok...

Times are very hard, a minimum of effort and understanding should be done by every human. What the enemy does at this point is no longer stealth warfare, we have all the evidence in front of us. I am 100% sure that MOST "NPC"s are not retarded and in fact understand what is going on. They just wanna keep this narrative and be on the winning side. I could elaborate on this point a lot if you want. I wish to fight and do my part in the physical realm as well, but I cannot fight the enemy when my own are against me.

 

[EasternFireLion666]

I'm with you in this whole war, but soldiers need also be responsible and not just blame the enemy and enemy programs. It's undeniable how long this worthless pathogen has been among us, but it is undeniable how the white race has survived this far.

I don't think there is anyone on this forum that thinks xianity is anything better than a brain cancer. However most women I know are in relationships with non religious guys that really provide for them and treat them decent. 9 out of 10 are still wasting time with traveling and seeing the world, getting 10 thousand degrees and other useless shit that you can do without. Whites like comfort? Truth is non whites can go without it and have at least a few kids without whining. Most other races hate race mixing. A female friend after so many years of me doing rituals and explaining in a civilized matter all that is happening and even agreeing with 95% of what I say married a nigga. While intellectuals like us try to figure out oh was she a leftist? Or maybe... maybe a xian? No my friend... just a nymphomaniac looking for a big one. We men are so gullible thinking it's about ideology, it's actually about a rat instinct. While we all like comfort and self indulgence in a time of racial extinction there is no time to find excuses for the mistakes the gentiles do. The Yehubor sells poison? Don't buy it, it's that simple. Ok, I will say it again, it's that simple. You don't need to be an intellectual getting bogged out into endless debates when action matters most. I've done tons of RTR and other rituals to see people and especially women still "refugees welcome" all the way. The RTR makes the good guys wanna act in real life. You can't just fight only with spirituality like you can't fight only in the physical realm. It's like the army and air force, one is useless without the other. One thing I keep saying and I will stand by this principle is when the "winning" comes I will not shake hands with the ones that race mixed, promoted leftism, xianity, reported my videos, made fun of me or tried to take me down and so on... When the line of the WIN is drawn, and I hope everyone sees this, the ones that joined us before that are the real ones no matter how long it took to wake up and the ones that came after that are just opportunists trying to adapt to the new trend. The line I am talking about is the new trend, the new power, where social validation and comfort lies. Many will just join after in order to be on the winning side and have it easy. If another global challenge would come and overwhelm us they would gladly do it again and betray us. An example must be set in history (I will not detail) so traitors don't go thinking "meh why waste any energy... if those losers eventually win they will accept us". This will just repeat if left unattended. As we said here a gorillion times, WE ARE NOT CHRISTIANS! If my family here would just embrace anyone coming after our efforts start materializing our new world I couldn't just pretend it's ok...

Times are very hard, a minimum of effort and understanding should be done by every human. What the enemy does at this point is no longer stealth warfare, we have all the evidence in front of us. I am 100% sure that MOST "NPC"s are not retarded and in fact understand what is going on. They just wanna keep this narrative and be on the winning side. I could elaborate on this point a lot if you want. I wish to fight and do my part in the physical realm as well, but I cannot fight the enemy when my own are against me.

And srsly it's enough with this i hate leftism better become xian or i hate xianity better become a leftist. We can refuse both it is not like there is no existance outside of the two options the Yehubor provides. If someone comes and asks me what do you wanna drink hirse piss or poison? Do i have to choose? I have friends that are normal and moderate and reject all factuons and enemy fanatism... mostly men sadly.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

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And srsly it's enough with this i hate leftism better become xian or i hate xianity better become a leftist. We can refuse both it is not like there is no existance outside of the two options the Yehubor provides. If someone comes and asks me what do you wanna drink hirse piss or poison? Do i have to choose? I have friends that are normal and moderate and reject all factuons and enemy fanatism... mostly men sadly.

I have asked myself many times the same questions and have felt the same rage. This is what has been leading to answers, because I treat this as a problem that we can solve.

Just keep in mind that most people out there, the NPC's, don't have a very developed soul and mind like people do here, so they can't figure it out. And still, we are at the level where people need direct help to get out of this.

That is their fault and NOT their fault, at the same time...They don't really "get" to choose. They just have had for the most part the illusion of choice, all within the same enemy game.

 

[darkmonkey666]

I'm with you in this whole war, but soldiers need also be responsible and not just blame the enemy and enemy programs. It's undeniable how long this worthless pathogen has been among us, but it is undeniable how the white race has survived this far.

I don't think there is anyone on this forum that thinks xianity is anything better than a brain cancer. However most women I know are in relationships with non religious guys that really provide for them and treat them decent. 9 out of 10 are still wasting time with traveling and seeing the world, getting 10 thousand degrees and other useless shit that you can do without. Whites like comfort? Truth is non whites can go without it and have at least a few kids without whining. Most other races hate race mixing. A female friend after so many years of me doing rituals and explaining in a civilized matter all that is happening and even agreeing with 95% of what I say married a nigga. While intellectuals like us try to figure out oh was she a leftist? Or maybe... maybe a xian? No my friend... just a nymphomaniac looking for a big one. We men are so gullible thinking it's about ideology, it's actually about a rat instinct. While we all like comfort and self indulgence in a time of racial extinction there is no time to find excuses for the mistakes the gentiles do. The Yehubor sells poison? Don't buy it, it's that simple. Ok, I will say it again, it's that simple. You don't need to be an intellectual getting bogged out into endless debates when action matters most. I've done tons of RTR and other rituals to see people and especially women still "refugees welcome" all the way. The RTR makes the good guys wanna act in real life. You can't just fight only with spirituality like you can't fight only in the physical realm. It's like the army and air force, one is useless without the other. One thing I keep saying and I will stand by this principle is when the "winning" comes I will not shake hands with the ones that race mixed, promoted leftism, xianity, reported my videos, made fun of me or tried to take me down and so on... When the line of the WIN is drawn, and I hope everyone sees this, the ones that joined us before that are the real ones no matter how long it took to wake up and the ones that came after that are just opportunists trying to adapt to the new trend. The line I am talking about is the new trend, the new power, where social validation and comfort lies. Many will just join after in order to be on the winning side and have it easy. If another global challenge would come and overwhelm us they would gladly do it again and betray us. An example must be set in history (I will not detail) so traitors don't go thinking "meh why waste any energy... if those losers eventually win they will accept us". This will just repeat if left unattended. As we said here a gorillion times, WE ARE NOT CHRISTIANS! If my family here would just embrace anyone coming after our efforts start materializing our new world I couldn't just pretend it's ok...

Times are very hard, a minimum of effort and understanding should be done by every human. What the enemy does at this point is no longer stealth warfare, we have all the evidence in front of us. I am 100% sure that MOST "NPC"s are not retarded and in fact understand what is going on. They just wanna keep this narrative and be on the winning side. I could elaborate on this point a lot if you want. I wish to fight and do my part in the physical realm as well, but I cannot fight the enemy when my own are against me.

And srsly it's enough with this i hate leftism better become xian or i hate xianity better become a leftist. We can refuse both it is not like there is no existance outside of the two options the Yehubor provides. If someone comes and asks me what do you wanna drink hirse piss or poison? Do i have to choose? I have friends that are normal and moderate and reject all factuons and enemy fanatism... mostly men sadly.

Remind people that Leftism is the same values as xtianity and same thought complex. Even some of the xtian conservatives admit this however they then go on to claim something about Jewsus not being present in it and muh morality and all that and it fails cause of the state of humanity etc. Yeah I heard these arguments cause I tried to make someone realize this once and failed who was a strong xtian but was talking about how communism is bad. It's the same mindset though I think this counts.

 

[Darkspirit]

First of all a greeting to all the men and especially to all the women (since it is the subject of the topic) who are here, then I wanted to say that we should respect each other and above all take our responsibilities, and not to fall into the enemy's games, both for men who do everything literally to the letter of what the Bible says for women, and for women who do the same to men under the orders of feminism (of course some here know this much better than me, but I feel I have to say it). This article reinforced some principles I had previously learned (and not just me I guess).

This post is very useful for the masses because it would open their eyes in this aspect of life but it would not be easily acceptable for them to go with nature because all the time they go against it.

Well I would say this was quite funny: the ideal man of this religion is either a mindless brute, or a sick fucking incel, that is, the perfect "Saint". :lol:

 

[SleepingWolf]

You're right. I just wanted to see it as a silver lining,

One of the people who introduced me to Satanism years back once told me "Silver Linings are bullshit. We(Satanists) get to have our cake and eat it too". This isn't particularly relevant here, which is why I'm telling you. These forums are a beautiful tool for the facilitation of knowledge, but we also need to remember the best way to use some tools is knowing when not to use them. For all parties involved, when reading and typing such lengthy discussions, we should think in the future if this is really the best use of our time.

If you can spend the time to be having such discussions leading nowhere, you can probably/possibly be using that time to meditate.

Now to say you shouldn't use the forums for discussions at all, but to start learning when the point is that a discussion needs to end or just let die. Satan and the Gods want us all to use our time wisely. Remember that.

 

[स त न म]

Only Yehuborim could create such insane things. And they did. People build things so that these are inherited by the next generation, and the next generation, continues. In India, people would understand this. People in the West also understood this as it was common knowledge until the late decades.

Yes people in India do indeed understand this. This also relates to the post you made about family values and the importance of family a short while ago. There is indeed still a concept of a family head, someone who has built things and foundations to be inherited by the young ones. Someone who guides the younger ones and sorta "passes the torch." This concept is still intact here.

I hope as the true knowledge spreads people start to understand and the Yehubor/xian/islam plague ends. And it will.

 

[tabby]

You're right. I just wanted to see it as a silver lining,

One of the people who introduced me to Satanism years back once told me "Silver Linings are bullshit. We(Satanists) get to have our cake and eat it too". This isn't particularly relevant here, which is why I'm telling you. These forums are a beautiful tool for the facilitation of knowledge, but we also need to remember the best way to use some tools is knowing when not to use them. For all parties involved, when reading and typing such lengthy discussions, we should think in the future if this is really the best use of our time.

If you can spend the time to be having such discussions leading nowhere, you can probably/possibly be using that time to meditate.

Now to say you shouldn't use the forums for discussions at all, but to start learning when the point is that a discussion needs to end or just let die. Satan and the Gods want us all to use our time wisely. Remember that.

That's very similar to what I was just talking with him about a moment ago. Something we are still trying to learn is when do you disengage from a conflict when someone is attacking you or insulting you? How do you defend yourself, without turning the other cheek but also not adding more fuel for the other person to use to ignite a bigger fire that you then end up feeling emotionally pulled to keep defending against? How do you continue a discussion that has the potential to be beneficial to talk about once someone goes on the attack - end it or redirect it back on track somehow and hope it doesn't escalate?

I guess it'll be a little different depending on the situation but neither jrvan or I have learned this growing up because of the social limits in our development since childhood. It's my hope that we are beginning to, and I think we are, it's just figuring out how to put it into practice when the only time we really can do that is during a conflict or tense discussions, and narrowed sight on the situation takes place - something that makes it more difficult to think clearer and continue as calmly as possible.

 

[SleepingWolf]

You're right. I just wanted to see it as a silver lining,

One of the people who introduced me to Satanism years back once told me "Silver Linings are bullshit. We(Satanists) get to have our cake and eat it too". This isn't particularly relevant here, which is why I'm telling you. These forums are a beautiful tool for the facilitation of knowledge, but we also need to remember the best way to use some tools is knowing when not to use them. For all parties involved, when reading and typing such lengthy discussions, we should think in the future if this is really the best use of our time.

If you can spend the time to be having such discussions leading nowhere, you can probably/possibly be using that time to meditate.

Now to say you shouldn't use the forums for discussions at all, but to start learning when the point is that a discussion needs to end or just let die. Satan and the Gods want us all to use our time wisely. Remember that.

That's very similar to what I was just talking with him about a moment ago. Something we are still trying to learn is when do you disengage from a conflict when someone is attacking you or insulting you? How do you defend yourself, without turning the other cheek but also not adding more fuel for the other person to use to ignite a bigger fire that you then end up feeling emotionally pulled to keep defending against? How do you continue a discussion that has the potential to be beneficial to talk about once someone goes on the attack - end it or redirect it back on track somehow and hope it doesn't escalate?

I guess it'll be a little different depending on the situation but neither jrvan or I have learned this growing up because of the social limits in our development since childhood. It's my hope that we are beginning to, and I think we are, it's just figuring out how to put it into practice when the only time we really can do that is during a conflict or tense discussions, and narrowed sight on the situation takes place - something that makes it more difficult to think clearer and continue as calmly as possible.

While this may sound more buddist than I would like, knowing how to detach yourself from the emotions of any debate, is not only the key strategy to calmly thinking about better ways to debate itself, but also to know when a debate is hopeless. If you can evaluate "What am I trying to accomplish with these words?" It's helpful in having clear discussion. This is much harder in actual conversation, but you have the benefit of being able to actually reread your post before you click that "submit" button here. Doing that (also helpful for catching errors) also is the easiest way I've found myself saying "Yeah this really isn't worth the time, I can be doing other things"

Admittedly this just makes me only engage here when I can see a clear reason/need for me to say something to someone in need of advice. Kind of like this very comment.

 

[Username]

Can anyone explain about Sir Himmler's procreation order around 1939 ?
Particularly if the media advanced the propaganda of second marriage of the widows or if they didn't.
Apart from taking care of their descendants, were widows encouraged to marry again or to procreate again with someone else ?

I am not talking about reproducing through artificial insemination but if the widows were encouraged to be sexually active with another male or if they were encouraged to marry again with someone else. That's all I want to know.

 

[EasternFireLion666]

I'm with you in this whole war, but soldiers need also be responsible and not just blame the enemy and enemy programs. It's undeniable how long this worthless pathogen has been among us, but it is undeniable how the white race has survived this far.

I don't think there is anyone on this forum that thinks xianity is anything better than a brain cancer. However most women I know are in relationships with non religious guys that really provide for them and treat them decent. 9 out of 10 are still wasting time with traveling and seeing the world, getting 10 thousand degrees and other useless shit that you can do without. Whites like comfort? Truth is non whites can go without it and have at least a few kids without whining. Most other races hate race mixing. A female friend after so many years of me doing rituals and explaining in a civilized matter all that is happening and even agreeing with 95% of what I say married a nigga. While intellectuals like us try to figure out oh was she a leftist? Or maybe... maybe a xian? No my friend... just a nymphomaniac looking for a big one. We men are so gullible thinking it's about ideology, it's actually about a rat instinct. While we all like comfort and self indulgence in a time of racial extinction there is no time to find excuses for the mistakes the gentiles do. The Yehubor sells poison? Don't buy it, it's that simple. Ok, I will say it again, it's that simple. You don't need to be an intellectual getting bogged out into endless debates when action matters most. I've done tons of RTR and other rituals to see people and especially women still "refugees welcome" all the way. The RTR makes the good guys wanna act in real life. You can't just fight only with spirituality like you can't fight only in the physical realm. It's like the army and air force, one is useless without the other. One thing I keep saying and I will stand by this principle is when the "winning" comes I will not shake hands with the ones that race mixed, promoted leftism, xianity, reported my videos, made fun of me or tried to take me down and so on... When the line of the WIN is drawn, and I hope everyone sees this, the ones that joined us before that are the real ones no matter how long it took to wake up and the ones that came after that are just opportunists trying to adapt to the new trend. The line I am talking about is the new trend, the new power, where social validation and comfort lies. Many will just join after in order to be on the winning side and have it easy. If another global challenge would come and overwhelm us they would gladly do it again and betray us. An example must be set in history (I will not detail) so traitors don't go thinking "meh why waste any energy... if those losers eventually win they will accept us". This will just repeat if left unattended. As we said here a gorillion times, WE ARE NOT CHRISTIANS! If my family here would just embrace anyone coming after our efforts start materializing our new world I couldn't just pretend it's ok...

Times are very hard, a minimum of effort and understanding should be done by every human. What the enemy does at this point is no longer stealth warfare, we have all the evidence in front of us. I am 100% sure that MOST "NPC"s are not retarded and in fact understand what is going on. They just wanna keep this narrative and be on the winning side. I could elaborate on this point a lot if you want. I wish to fight and do my part in the physical realm as well, but I cannot fight the enemy when my own are against me.

And srsly it's enough with this i hate leftism better become xian or i hate xianity better become a leftist. We can refuse both it is not like there is no existance outside of the two options the Yehubor provides. If someone comes and asks me what do you wanna drink hirse piss or poison? Do i have to choose? I have friends that are normal and moderate and reject all factuons and enemy fanatism... mostly men sadly.

Remind people that Leftism is the same values as xtianity and same thought complex. Even some of the xtian conservatives admit this however they then go on to claim something about Jewsus not being present in it and muh morality and all that and it fails cause of the state of humanity etc. Yeah I heard these arguments cause I tried to make someone realize this once and failed who was a strong xtian but was talking about how communism is bad. It's the same mindset though I think this counts.

I do remind them and many more. They are just too emotionally tied to this poison. The power does not lie in the quality of the message but it's coverage. And people feel that. Numbers matter to cowards.

 

[High Priestess Lydia]

Great sermon (as usual)

Nearly every married couple I know wanted more children but stopped at 2 because they simply could not afford another. Most women I know wanted more babies, but most had to work and have their kids in daycare so they and their husband could afford a house. I've never seen this huge feminist reaction against having a family, I guess it depends on what circle you run in. The anti-family women stick together or something and don't mingle with the women who do want families? Seems like that, different lifestyles attract different social contacts.

There are also women who do want a family, but are ridiculed for it. And men are brought up to "run away from women who start talking about marriage", people often say what they think they are supposed to say to be accepted by their same-gender peers, instead of what they actually want. This also creates strife between the genders. So many lonely people out there, it is so sad. Men are also brainwashed into wanting "exotic" or "spicy" women, from Asia or South America for example, and not a "boring White woman who doesn't know how to shake her ass", and now more recently it's being pushed on White women to want non-white men.

And true what you (HP Cobra) wrote, most women are lost. This is a fact. We no longer have role models, too many people are brought up from a young age watching tv and american sitcoms (fully Yehuborim shit), and people think that social media is "reality". They don't realize how alien it is so be so focused on social media and internet trends, instead of focusing on the real life, the here and now, what is right there in front of them. They should all turn off the tv and social media, and think about what they have. Missing something? Then instead of distracting yourself with that garbage, start a family and have meaning in your life!

Abrahamic "values" and "traditions" are toxic and alien to us. We need our Pagan Satanic family values back.

To those here who want a family, you can have it! Stay close to the Gods, meditate, do any necessary workings, and ask Satan what else you should do. Satan wants us Whites to procreate, so it will happen, but you might need to advance a bit more first, free your soul more, or work on other things in your material life to ensure that you can provide a good quality of life for your child

 

[The Alchemist7 [SG]]

As far as I noticed around the older population christianity is posing as some sort of traditional pro-family value that must be conserved, while among the youngster, the most popular are the anti-family and anti-social movements MGTOW and Feminism, which are basically destroying the concept of family and giving birth to kids because both movements promote the concept of hate for the other gender and total independence from the responsabilities generated by having a family. I think these two are mainly responsible for dropping birthrates since these are strongly promoted in White countries.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Can anyone explain about Sir Himmler's procreation order around 1939 ?
Particularly if the media advanced the propaganda of second marriage of the widows or if they didn't.
Apart from taking care of their descendants, were widows encouraged to marry again or to procreate again with someone else ?

According to xianity, a widow is to remain a widow until the end of time. However, due to misfortune, many normal women can remain widows. Christianity enforces that they stay widows for the rest of their life.

Yehuborim governments generally treat the military like dross, except of plants of their own that they put in positions of power to use the military for Make Israel Great Again agenda.

The widows were just allowed them to re-marry if they wanted and they were encouraged to do, without this tarnishing their reputation, if their husband or fiancee died in the front.

These "orders" were not laws, but like internal memos to the SS, which was very few people as it were, and not the major populace.

As they knew many people of the SS would die in the frontlines, Himmler also reassured them that any man leaving a pregnant wife behind or a child, will be taken care of by the State and the family they left behind would be adequately supported.

This is what any manly and straight up Government should do to people that have spent all their existence in the military, are going to probably die in the frontlines, and they have to be in the frontline with the added worry that their family and wife may be left destitute behind.

Instead of extending this to only married couples, the SS knew that many people had affairs outside marriage [like engagement] or might have not been legally married, so they extended this also to other people. This happens today also in human relationships, and the Yehuborim trying to make this look like another Sci-Fi evil movie from the moon, is self revealing. Not everyone is leaving for the frontline married, and many are expecting kids.

Sort of like what they should be doing today to the US Veterans that go and kill themselves for wars of Israel, but the difference, their families won't be alone and destitute. This also included them upon their return, and they would be supported for life.

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

You're right. I just wanted to see it as a silver lining,

One of the people who introduced me to Satanism years back once told me "Silver Linings are bullshit. We(Satanists) get to have our cake and eat it too". This isn't particularly relevant here, which is why I'm telling you. These forums are a beautiful tool for the facilitation of knowledge, but we also need to remember the best way to use some tools is knowing when not to use them. For all parties involved, when reading and typing such lengthy discussions, we should think in the future if this is really the best use of our time.

If you can spend the time to be having such discussions leading nowhere, you can probably/possibly be using that time to meditate.

Now to say you shouldn't use the forums for discussions at all, but to start learning when the point is that a discussion needs to end or just let die. Satan and the Gods want us all to use our time wisely. Remember that.

That's very similar to what I was just talking with him about a moment ago. Something we are still trying to learn is when do you disengage from a conflict when someone is attacking you or insulting you? How do you defend yourself, without turning the other cheek but also not adding more fuel for the other person to use to ignite a bigger fire that you then end up feeling emotionally pulled to keep defending against? How do you continue a discussion that has the potential to be beneficial to talk about once someone goes on the attack - end it or redirect it back on track somehow and hope it doesn't escalate?

I guess it'll be a little different depending on the situation but neither jrvan or I have learned this growing up because of the social limits in our development since childhood. It's my hope that we are beginning to, and I think we are, it's just figuring out how to put it into practice when the only time we really can do that is during a conflict or tense discussions, and narrowed sight on the situation takes place - something that makes it more difficult to think clearer and continue as calmly as possible.

Personally Ive grown up with a lot of conflict and fighting with my brother. We didnt ever get along.
My mom would pull us apart before we could hit each other because that is what itd end to.. This is what happens when you don't budge on either side.
We were young, it wasnt even about being right, but more like 'give me back my stuff' and 'dont be such an annoying brat' kind of things.

I didnt learn to solve conflicts, but my mom often told us to not continue the fight or say or do something thatd trigger the other into fighting.
We were little kids. Do you think that helped any in the slightliest? Of course not.

When online seeing conflict, things are different. People are more mature but some also don't give a f.
I've seen people post info and engage into an argument, posting data and info at the start, being a typical smart-ass. And the one of them would start to be like 'you spelled this wrong' etc etc. Just making it really annoying for the other so they'd stop.

People think they win if they say the last thing, because it makes them feel heard and powerful and a sense of right (this is why I started using my fist).
But people are not intellectuals, but immoral degenerate scum.
This standard should change and some people also say 'to walk away strongly'.

Perhaps it is best to make at least absolutely clear what you want to say to begin with and simply do not add any other words even if the person still replies with the same stupid thing.
It doesn't show respect either. They just want to get their 'right' even if they're wrong.

I hope you'll learn how to handle such situations better in the future.
To be fair, they tick me off a lot too, to the point I spend an entire day being angry and wanting to kick and punch said person.

I do not feel the need to engage into fights or to step in and separate people as I did in the past, but right now I do have a feeling that says we need to change something in the forums, remember that we are a community. And start acting like one.
And actually show that we are a spiritual place, not one where all we talk about is wordly matters. Despite that we do have the need to discuss those too.
I do think that it is a good thing that people post their issues and get help with them. And I also agree that HP HC says that we need to raise the level. There are not many names here that I recognize from when I first joined the forums a couple years ago, but like myself some have probably taken a new name for themselves also.

Anyway, I hope this reply is useful in some way. Im off to sleep now, goodnight and

Hail Satan!

 

[Novice Priest Karnonnos]

After the Constantinian-Flavian gulag halved the population of Rome and made birth rates plummet for 700 years, the European birth rate didn't exceed the death rate until the 1770s. Nearly all our growth comes from beyond that point, aka the 'degenerate Enlightenment' according to trads. The xian 'experiment' with traditionalism didn't do very well: it just instituted the sex dynamics of the shtetl, where the child is taught to love the parent (not the other way round), the wife is a donkey for hard labor, and the man is a 'happy serf'. This ideology, of course, led to the plague.

Neoplatonist philosophers (before being burned to death by lunatics like Arcadius) instructed people to love their children. Tacitus, Aulus Gellius and other writers conveyed the importance of breastfeeding one's own child, which wouldn't be taken up again until Rousseau. I note that the Moon symbolizes the mother, race and the breast.

In the xian shtetl to love one's own child more than some 38 year old goatfucker from god knows where was seen as demonic. jeboo wipes the virgin bitch's tears, not the other way round. Monasteries cajoled parents into giving up their children 'to god' and kidnapped little boys in their hundreds of thousands to be oblates since those shitholes were lying abandoned, and all kinds of abuse was heaped onto children. The church of course blamed the children for being 'tempting sodomites'.

Japan conquered its death rate and made birthrates explode way earlier. As did the 13 Colonies [they wanted to escape from that shit].

NS corrected all of this insanity in mainland Europe totally. It instituted the role of man as provider, soldier and actor and woman as being the fulfillment of the child, the community and home. They rectified Germany's birthrate from 1.33 - 1933 to 2.50 - 1940. In Continental Europe this is unprecedented. The elevation of conditions and level of support, collective help and education for mothers was also totally novel and unseen. In the Soviet Union on the other hand the birthrate among Russians collapsed forever.

We don't have a lot like this. We only have things such as 'you may have a state house if you are a single mother who has ten children with a drug dealer or a goatfucker, or are an islamic State bride involved in sex trafficking like Samia Fussein'. We have places like Scandinavia that even culturally refuse to let married couples rent together (unless refugees of course).

Satanists have many tools at their disposal. In addition to what Lydia said, if you learn divination you can speed up the process of finding a suitable partner or having enough resources or money, you can have a family. You can make choices so that you never even have to worry about pigs coming into your intimate life as much as possible.

 

[Sunny]

In islam, women are openly considered second-class humans and the property of men. Literally, daughters are kept and packaged under specific conditions, such as isolation, virginity and if possible even infibulation. And then they are given against their will to men with whom the deal is struck.

Islam is so horrible that it looks worse than xianism but in fact they are very similar. Islam is autism and xianism is down syndrome, that is the difference.

 

[Username]

According to xianity, a widow is to remain a widow until the end of time. However, due to misfortune, many normal women can remain widows. Christianity enforces that they stay widows for the rest of their life.

Yehuborim governments generally treat the military like dross, except of plants of their own that they put in positions of power to use the military for Make Israel Great Again agenda.

The widows were just allowed them to re-marry if they wanted and they were encouraged to do, without this tarnishing their reputation, if their husband or fiancee died in the front.

These "orders" were not laws, but like internal memos to the SS, which was very few people as it were, and not the major populace.

As they knew many people of the SS would die in the frontlines, Himmler also reassured them that any man leaving a pregnant wife behind or a child, will be taken care of by the State and the family they left behind would be adequately supported.

This is what any manly and straight up Government should do to people that have spent all their existence in the military, are going to probably die in the frontlines, and they have to be in the frontline with the added worry that their family and wife may be left destitute behind.

Instead of extending this to only married couples, the SS knew that many people had affairs outside marriage [like engagement] or might have not been legally married, so they extended this also to other people. This happens today also in human relationships, and the Yehuborim trying to make this look like another Sci-Fi evil movie from the moon, is self revealing. Not everyone is leaving for the frontline married, and many are expecting kids.

Sort of like what they should be doing today to the US Veterans that go and kill themselves for wars of Israel, but the difference, their families won't be alone and destitute. This also included them upon their return, and they would be supported for life.

Thank you for your reply.

The SS were a group a very disciplined and brave soldiers, the likes of which might not be seen in the near future. Just seeing a SS soldier or any Germany soldier of the past gives a feeling of a tall and reliable pillar. The Government led by the Great Commander Hitler to me feels like a Government that I can always trust to be morally upright and most of all sensible.

Like in my country, schools are charging the same fees for online classes with some only reducing the fees by an insignificant amount. Had this happened in the Germany of the past and had someone put a complaint to the Government, no doubt that they would swiftly take action and correct what needs to be corrected.
It feels like a Government that won't cheat on you or play trickery with your taxes. A Government which would promote growth and actually care for its people. Only in nations like these would you want to contribute with your heart and pay taxes on time or contribute more than asked knowing that what you sowed will be reaped.

I wish Commander Hitler was here on Earth and I wish that I could follow him. However, its enough to know that he is alive and doing well. His speeches itself were full of energy, vigor and full of honesty. He did not speak to a sheet of paper on the podium before the mic but he spoke directly to heart of the people speaking all that he had to convey. No one delivers speech his way anymore, even the president of the United States.

Blessed be Great Commander Hitler.

 

[Quicksilver]

For a while I was really confused about what people meant when they said that Hitler wanted women to be mothers and not in politics and leadership or whatever it was, but there failed to be any further explanation as to what that really meant, and you're just left to only take it at the surface meaning which is not a good thing to leave to ones imagination with Yehuborim tricking the mass populace mind.

I remember watching a few months ago one of his speeches on the subject, and despite the stupid surface meanings I've heard some try to influence others to believe about Hitler, all you can see is a man who wanted his country back and his people to be strong healthy people again, not force them to be something they weren't.

You go through school and everyone tells you the same thing. "Hitler was a bad man! He did this and that blah blah blah" crap. How can a man who did everything he could to save his people be bad? It's nice to finally have a better understanding of his policies especially in the subject of women. If the male leaders of society today could think of the things like this that women need to feel safe and supported in their communities, I would feel very secure as a woman to have children and support other mothers. Mother's groups use to be a thing when I was a kid, I rarely hear of it now.

Women had enough support in a community even by other women with children. They'd get together with their babies and let them play together while the mothers looked over them and socialised without the stress of leaving their children unattended anywhere, and the fathers would work without worry if their wife is doing alright raising the child alone. Not only was the fears of raising children for the first time quelled, but experienced mothers could teach the new mothers in these groups, and their children would have friends to socialise with and have support in their youngest years of life. Even though most of these mothers still had to work because that's just what society has been for a while, they had these groups to support them and help them.

I miss that.

Thank you, High Priest HoodedCobra.


A side note, in that argument on the other threads, I wasn't pushing against patriarchy. It wasn't my intention to come across as such. Just the idea that women can't be independent or work or have what she needs on her side to defend/support herself if something goes wrong. The rest was defending myself and others against insults.

Something I tried stating at one point but it's probably lost in the stream of comments there, that neither sex should feel intimidated or fear the others empowerment. When it's healthy, it doesn't make the other sex any less of value or less important. Empowerment as far as I know is only a "bad thing" when used to hurt either sex purposefully.

Damn. Tabby's post is the only one I could understand because my eyes weren't jumping all over the place with the long posts. Lol.

I try to keep up. But I wanted to say. Now I have a broader understanding of the enemy agenda in general in an attempt to destroy family. It's like a double edge sword. That puts a lot into perceptive.

Thank you.

 

[CandiceLee1313]

HP HoodedCobra666 Thank you for sharing this! ❤ Hail Satan!!