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is Satan almighty?

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And if he is, why didn't he stop the angels and Corrupted Beings cutting him off from us, and other evils?
 
The idea of an "almighty God" is an unreal evaluation made as a false claim by xianity. It does not exist in the real universe. We do not ascribe to this idea. This idea coming from the enemy is a total lie as you can see, since, they are not "almighty".

Satan can be "almighty" when it comes to affairs, locations, places, planets, or segments of existence. But omnipotent almighty-ness is not the case. This is why the enemy is at war with us and we with them.

The term almighty can be used in a notion to show the above, in speech, and is not strictly a literal claim. "Almighty" also has to do with the encompassing power of the 7th Chakra which can appear to be "Infinite".
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
The idea of an "almighty God" is an unreal evaluation made as a false claim by xianity. It does not exist in the real universe. We do not ascribe to this idea. This idea coming from the enemy is a total lie as you can see, since, they are not "almighty".

Satan can be "almighty" when it comes to affairs, locations, places, planets, or segments of existence. But omnipotent almighty-ness is not the case. This is why the enemy is at war with us and we with them.

The term almighty can be used in a notion to show the above, in speech, and is not strictly a literal claim. "Almighty" also has to do with the encompassing power of the 7th Chakra which can appear to be "Infinite".

Thank you for answering!
 
Serbon said:
And if he is, why didn't he stop the angels and Corrupted Beings cutting him off from us, and other evils?

There are pdfs in Library of Thoth that explains this
I read one today again "dealing with Astral entitys" im not sure which one exactly it was but its there. O and btw HPZM some of thouse PDFs don't want to download im not sure if its a problem with my phone or a problem from JoS.
Im just telling you so you know.
 
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Caster said:
I did like to indicate that calling Satan a God is also ascribing that he is an almighty being, because that is essentially what "God" means, the highest form in existence and the ruler and creator of everything.
I know Satan is very powerful and advanced beyond that of humans but I think he is still a man, is it ethical to call him a God. Because you are lebelling him as some kind of divine deity just like how the Christians see jehova and Muslims see allah.

I don't agree at all, and sounds like you're stuck in the abrahamic mindset. Or better yet, stuck I'm a Monotheistic mindset.

"Allah" and "Yahweh" and "Jehovah" these names and definitions came after our Pagan Gods. You have to remove this idea of "God" encompassing and controlling everything. No such being like this exists.

Shiva is a God, yet didn't create the universe. Vishnu is a God, but didn't create the universe. Zeus is a God but didn't create the universe.

A God is a being that is better than what we humans think is capable. The Gods usually have a hierarchy, with one at the top. Yet the hierarchies are made up of Gods.

Again what you're describing is more of a "Monotheistic" mindset. While we, at the JOS, acknowledge many Gods like the Pagans of old and Eastern religions.
 
Caster said:
I did like to indicate that calling Satan a God is also ascribing that he is an almighty being, because that is essentially what "God" means, the highest form in existence and the ruler and creator of everything.
I know Satan is very powerful and advanced beyond that of humans but I think he is still a man, is it ethical to call him a God. Because you are lebelling him as some kind of divine deity just like how the Christians see jehova and Muslims see allah.

This is a semantics argument, thus irrelevant. Father Satan is a half a million year old super-being who is the most powerful entity we as humanity know of. None of the enemy rulers have lived for nearly as long as he has, according to HPS Pythia, whom I believe.

"God" in this instance is simply used to refer to beings who have far more power than we do and who some here, such as myself, rightfully view as Perfect.
 
VoiceofEnki said:

I just wanted to thank you for explaining me that we have to strive to balance the element within our souls.
It made me realize that we have to strive for Balance in EVERY aspect of life. Well learned it a harder way.

Also thank you for sharing a technique to clean our Chakras individually using Satanama and scanning light.

People like you should actually talk more, you have no clue how tremendously helpful you are.

I salute you brother, literally doing it rn.
 
Donald Trump was president of USA, but many said, "He is not my president!. The reptillians, greys, etc., are gods but they are weak and shit, yet many and not our gods. Consider biblical stories - "his lord said to my lord...", or if you want visual representations, watch Stargate - SG1, where "gods" and "goddesses" have subjects; each "god/goddess" has its subjects who refuse to acknowledge the god/goddess-ness of anyone who is not their own god/goddess.

Characters in the bibles who met "angels" bowed before them as gods. If we, Humans on Earth who are not as powerful as the Gods and Goddesses, went to another primitive Planet with our space-faring vehicles, electricity-powered light bulbs and microwaves and radios and TVs, and lasers which can cause fire or lighters or just matches and fuel... and they on that Planet saw us, they might very-well call us gods/goddesses. Because the Universe is infinite and eternal, then there may be others more-powerful than Satan, whom Satan might refer to as Gods/Goddesses. "God" is polysemic - having multiple meanings or understandings. I also specify "Goddess" to refer to Females, of course.
 
Hi good question and perfectly answered too. I believe its the Hebrew who has cut us off with their lies. I'm introducing and dedicating people to Satan often, but the image surrounding Farther needs to be cleaned up because people are scared when they view material the way its all set out on the web its difficult to bring people back to Satan, I tell them to ignore the rubbish and focus on Farther.
 
Its very simple. "GOD" or Brahman is the all encompassing energy field which manifests in the lower dimensions as Duality and thus Material Reality. He who realizes the Brahman or "GOD" as in syncs with it ,which is a spiritual connection where you are open to the Superconciousness field ,not cut off like Humans are currently. Currently the pathway is blocked as the Kundalini serpent is at the base ,instead of outside of the crown channeling the Superconciousness field.

Like a tree which take in oxygen and converts it into food. You cannot sync with the Superconciousness field unless you are free of the negative gross ego through the spiritual purification process, your chakras and nadis are strong enough to handle that much energy and you have the one pointed concentration where you can have an ego without an identity.

He who realizes the Brahman and ascends the Kundalini is a realized Yogi. And he who attains physical immorality in that ascended state is a God.

I know for certain Greys are not in any ascended state. They are hivemind creatures with ESP qualities being remotely controlled by nexus points of Greys who seem to have some capacity and consciousness. But they are not in any Superconciousness state. Their lifespan is extremely low and they are not immortal. As for Corrupted Beings i have no idea. It does not seem like any creature who is synced with the Superconciousness, would try to hurt its creation and manipulate it forcefully. It seems particularly alien and mimicking type behavior.
 
Caster said:
I know Satan is very powerful and advanced beyond that of humans but I think he is still a man, is it ethical to call him a God. Because you are lebelling him as some kind of divine deity just like how the Christians see jehova and Muslims see allah.

The word God has many different meanings. Roman emperors who did great service were 'deified' with a formal ceremony and were called gods. There are primitive tribes who worship idols made of stone or metal and believe these are gods.

As Satanists we don't accept the RHP definition of god being someone all-powerful without a physical body.

Satan and the Gods of Elysium (Demons) are not humans. They are alien beings of the Nordic species and have superior genes than humans. They are a different species than us.

The Pagan Gods are Satan and the Demons. They are not "forces" or "energy" but aliens/extraterrestrials. Enki is Satan. This has all been explained on JoS which you should read.

Yahweh/Jehova is a collective of enemy alien beings too. In the bible he's described having physical characteristics. Moses saw his ass because he would die if he saw his face.

Exodus 33:20

And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.

Exodus 33:22-23

And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by. And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

A spirit being can't have a face, hand and "back parts".

There is more about how Yahweh is described as a physical being in the bible here

You said Shiva is energy but he's not. Shiva is no other than Satan. You should read search the forums for Shiva. The ancients weren't stupid to personalize some "force" and depict it as a being with hands and a physical body. They were painted as physical human like beings because they were like that.
 
Using English words which have limited functionality to appropriate older more richer definitions, is always going to create confusion.

Its not Either or. The ascended individuals who are immortal are called Gods.

The Superconciousness field of Pure consciousness (Light) is also called God (The Brahman.)

Standard male social behavior is called masculine. Women find this sexy.

The Will or Direction given to energy is called the masculine principle (Shiva). Women don't know what this is.

So you can see how different definitions encompassed by the same English words create confusion.
 
Caster said:
That is how the Indians see it.

This has already been addressed before. Modern Hinduism has been corrupted. The original Vedic religion from which Hinduism came did describe the Gods as physical beings flying and fighting in aerial ships called "vimanas". They did know they were extraterrestrial beings. The oldest Indian texts describe the Gods as physical beings and only in the 8th to 6th century BCE with the Upanishads did they believe in some "omnipresent force". The Upanishads are the first texts that mention a "force" called Brahman.

https://infinityexplorers.com/vimanas-the-ancient-flying-machines-of-the-gods

They were described as physical beings in all religions because they were so. They weren't as dumb as some modern scholars think they were, to personify some random natural forces. All the Pagan Gods are our Demons, real extraterrestrial beings although some of their stories are allegorical and do represent parts of the Magnum Opus having to do with Spiritual transformation.

I'm not saying anything new here, it's all in the JoS site which you are supposed to have read it.

**[Late 2002 through the spring of 2003] Myself and three other High Priests and a High Priestess performed energy work on the Demons. They are NOT monsters. Many are well known and popular EGYPTIAN GODS. For centuries, they have been spiritually abused using enemy god names, nine foot circles and a plethora of blasphemies and insults. This is the reason many appeared as monsters. The Demons are all of the Pre-Christian Gods; the ORIGINAL PAGAN GODS.
- High Priestess Pythia, May, 2003

Many of us have seen Satan. He has nothing to hide. Satan and his Demons, [as well as some of the "angels" of the Christian Bible and their cohorts] are of the alien race known as "Nordics."

You seem to be stuck again in the New Age definition of a God. As I said, there are as many definitions of god as there are xian denominations. The Roman Emperors who did great service were deified using a special ceremony and were called Gods.

The Satanic definition of God completely differs than the mainstream ones. The word "God" in Satanism is not associated with the word "worship" at all. It is a title for a person who has completed the Magnum Opus and only that.
 
Caster said:
When one completes the magnum you don't become a God you become godlike, you are the one who is confused because you don't know the difference between being a God and being Godlike.
You keep saying I am saying abrahamic definition, but am not the one who is calling Satan who is an extraterrestrial as my God, you deffinately have a space daddy. you need to realize God does not living on another planet, God is an unseen creative force. And God is within us not on outside, but I rest my case since this may just bring more argument.

Lastly am not new to satanism, I understand alot thank you.
If you keep slandering Satan you won't last here long. Have you read the forum rules?

I would also like to point out how you cherry picked one phrase from the JoS website and ignored all other instances where it was mentioned that the MO does elevate one into Godhood. Very interesting.

Can you explain exactly what you mean by 'God is an unseen creative force'? How did you arrive at that and what exactly do you mean? Why is it unseen and what exactly is it? Which God is this within you? Are you talking about the same thing in these two statements?

This type of thing is very common in mainstream spirituality due to lack of knowledge. An example is in Astrology. Someone says something like 'Jupiter in Pisces will bring you growth'. You ask them to explain exactly what they mean and they are left dumbfounded or use the offended card. You can't just throw statements around that are meaningless when analyzed. Because we know what God actually means and why we call the Pagan Gods this title. Using blanket statements is always a tell-tale sign of an uninformed or a trolling person.
 
VoiceofEnki said:

I wanted to say thank you brother, for such a thorough and well defined explanation. This is about one of the best descriptions I've ever seen regarding an accurate description of what states gods embody in their advancement.

I have been advancing to certain higher stages, and having trouble comprehending, putting into words what I been just starting to experience, and your words really ring true. Thank you so much.

Hail Satan!
 
Blackdragon666 said:
Caster said:
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This "Caster" must be the Pleiadian New Ager guy "whitecloud" or whatever it was called, who made 120 accounts and got banned a hundred times. The same New Age propaganda, ignoring others' arguments and blabbering on and on.
 
Blackdragon666 said:
I have very low tolerance with people who disrespect Satan...

Same, don’t worry, I think it’s good how you reacted.
 
Caster said:
Shut up, who told you he is stronger than me.you better watch the way you talk to people. You don't know the meter of persons strength so don't just assume.

You lack basic understanding, of course you are way weaker than him.
 
Caster said:
I understand what you are saying but don't follow that, I don't support the idea of deifying other people, you may think Satan is a God but I will use the term he is godlike. Satan is powerful, benevolent and on a much higher level of evolution to humans, and he wants to help humans ascend, but is he our God. Probably not. Am not going to keep arguing about what the word God means because to me God can mean many things, it can be the soul, the forces of nature, the universe, or the pure creative force from which all existence and consciousness is born. People say this is the aether but I think the aether is just energy and is not the source of all creation, I think there are much higher force that are higher than the aether. Am not trying to discredit you, you just seem to call other people your God but I do not.because these Gods are people as well, I do not have any God. I am advancing to godhead and I do not believe any extraterrestrial or human to be my God even if they are very powerful. I don't take them as Gods.
Finish.
You're trying to lecture VoiceofEnki of all people...
Listen dude you can have your opinion, but we have facts. Don't think you can come here and tell us Satan is not a God, you're a nobody to say such a thing. This is not a place of opinions, but of facts, keep that in your mind next time you think you can lecture Zevism who are here and have had more experiences than you did.
 
Caster said:
Your blabbering nonsense makes you look even more stupid, you don't realize your not as experienced as you think, heirachy dose not equal deification fool, you have this deluded reasoning that because something is superior to us we should take it as God. A really primitive form of reasoning even though you think you are advanced, the Corrupted Beings are in shut real beings, so you are deceiving yourself, and because Satan is higher than me dosnt mean I will take him as my God, I know for sure he is not my God even though he may be different other things, the idea of deification does not appeal to me. You can be as powerful as you want but you can not be my God that is it. So you can keep ramble your primitive reasonings of extraterrestrial deification. I can respect beings that are superior to me and are benevolent, but I do not deify them as my Gods or call them my Gods simple child.

Secondly your quote on braman is even worst than the first one.because braman is an energy consciousness and not No Thing. Braman does not have anything to do with the second death of the soul, he helps in the advancement of the soul to godhead, which is why the godhead in the east is know as the bramans loka, and the part to raise the kundalini is clearly written in the "Brahman vidya". As stupid as your explanation is you still try to call me a fool when you are the big fool

Lastly I follow Satan as well because I follow what is good and light, but I do not worship him as a God or see him as my creator God, to me he's just a being with advance power and I do not deify him as some highest God in the universe.

This answer goes for both you and ninRick

Pfft hahaha. You’re here on the JoS telling other people to read its content while you continue to think Father Satan isn’t the Creator God of humanity? You’re a joke.

Father does not want slavish worship. But regardless, if you don’t consider him your Creator and a deity, how can you follow him when you reject one very key thing about his existence?

Our High Priests are superior to us, do we call them Gods because they are superior? No, they are High Priests, they have not yet reached the level of advancement to become deified yet. You should read HP Zevios’s recent post about spiritual rank among our Gods.

Why am I even trying to reason with you? I’ve not seen anyone around here before argue so strongly that Father Satan is not their Creator.
 
Aren't you the one deifying a force into what you call "God"?

Can you further explain by what you mean when you say "God"? Is it aware of itself? Does it have a name? Is it a force or a being?
 
tabby said:
Caster said:
Your blabbering nonsense makes you look even more stupid, you don't realize your not as experienced as you think, heirachy dose not equal deification fool, you have this deluded reasoning that because something is superior to us we should take it as God. A really primitive form of reasoning even though you think you are advanced, the Corrupted Beings are in shut real beings, so you are deceiving yourself, and because Satan is higher than me dosnt mean I will take him as my God, I know for sure he is not my God even though he may be different other things, the idea of deification does not appeal to me. You can be as powerful as you want but you can not be my God that is it. So you can keep ramble your primitive reasonings of extraterrestrial deification. I can respect beings that are superior to me and are benevolent, but I do not deify them as my Gods or call them my Gods simple child.

Secondly your quote on braman is even worst than the first one.because braman is an energy consciousness and not No Thing. Braman does not have anything to do with the second death of the soul, he helps in the advancement of the soul to godhead, which is why the godhead in the east is know as the bramans loka, and the part to raise the kundalini is clearly written in the "Brahman vidya". As stupid as your explanation is you still try to call me a fool when you are the big fool

Lastly I follow Satan as well because I follow what is good and light, but I do not worship him as a God or see him as my creator God, to me he's just a being with advance power and I do not deify him as some highest God in the universe.

This answer goes for both you and ninRick

Pfft hahaha. You’re here on the JoS telling other people to read its content while you continue to think Father Satan isn’t the Creator God of humanity? You’re a joke.

Father does not want slavish worship. But regardless, if you don’t consider him your Creator and a deity, how can you follow him when you reject one very key thing about his existence?

Our High Priests are superior to us, do we call them Gods because they are superior? No, they are High Priests, they have not yet reached the level of advancement to become deified yet. You should read HP Zevios’s recent post about spiritual rank among our Gods.

Why am I even trying to reason with you? I’ve not seen anyone around here before argue so strongly that Father Satan is not their Creator.

Yeah I have also no clue why I tried to argue with him.

All I read was: "Please punch me NinRick! Punch me!"
 
Caster said:
An just to give one last example so your more primitive brain can understand, since you like the idea of having a space daddy or a space God.
To end this let's say we humans manage to achieve some level of advancement and we build a spaceship for intergalactic travel, let's say we go to a planet that is similar to earth, were majority of the people are primitive, don't respect each other and are lost and there is always war and death, if we" the more civilized people go there with our technology and offer to teach them civilization and give some amount of spiritual information some of those people will call us gods, they will worship us. That is same how most humans do to E.Ts, I have heard some stories were extraterrestrials refused to get much involved with earth humans because they dont want humans to look up to them as Gods.

Of course it is people like you that will think like that but people like me know better, the idea of a space daddy dosnt apply to me, you can fuck off right now if you think am going to listen to your lower sense of reasoning.


Why Hello there, perhaps I can help. What is it you are trying to understand? There is a being that Created us Gentiles, our bodies and Souls, he has protected us for millennia and has guided us this life to becoming a God. God means supreme minded one, and in religious texts refers to a higher force that created us, It would seem he falls under both these definitions.

Why would there be an issue in bringing Honor to said person as a God for all he has done for us?
 
Blackdragon666 said:
There is an attitude Caster came with that reeks of disrespect for Satan, even going as far as calling Him a sky daddy. That and also how well he knows the JoS, including old writings of Salem Burke. I have very low tolerance with people who disrespect Satan so I may have gone a bit overboard in my reply to him.

Anyway, in case he is not trolling he definitely has a huge chance of advancing.

I don’t believe you went overboard at all Brother, what you said was very similar to my first few replies here. I also despise any disrespect to Satan and our Gods, and have low tolerance for that.

The only reason I went back to the topic and gave him that courtesy is because of the recent discussion we had on tolerance towards ignorant individuals or people coming here from other corners of the internet where the kind of speech he employed is commonplace.

I had my reservations about him obviously, but to cover all angles, I felt I should give some courtesy in case he is someone who can still learn and not some infiltrator as he appeared to be.

However, from the replies this disgusting thing had the audacity to make afterwards, my courtesy was wasted on them, as usually is the case when we do decide to give sorts like these any of it.

However for the sake of professionalism, it is good to continue doing so anyway, even if it is wasted on the person, because we do have a standard to uphold as Spiritual Satanists. With this I don’t mean we should blindly tolerate disrespect or subversion, or close our eyes to it in any way, but to give a small courtesy out of the benefit of the doubt.

If after that they continue their rampant behavior and sowing of disrespect, we have the moral high ground on all levels to kick them down the stairs and trample them underfoot, for those who attempt to shit on Satan’s temple deserve every bit of suffering and our wrath.

Not everyone has to go out of their way to give any courtesy however, some people in the community are better at this than others, we have our roles to play here, and we should each do what we are best at in our contribution to the forum.

Your explanations and setting straight of things is beneficial to everyone, and I never feel that you go overboard in any reply to others.
 

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