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And if he is, why didn't he stop the angels and reptilians cutting him off from us, and other evils?
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:The idea of an "almighty God" is an unreal evaluation made as a false claim by xianity. It does not exist in the real universe. We do not ascribe to this idea. This idea coming from the enemy is a total lie as you can see, since, they are not "almighty".
Satan can be "almighty" when it comes to affairs, locations, places, planets, or segments of existence. But omnipotent almighty-ness is not the case. This is why the enemy is at war with us and we with them.
The term almighty can be used in a notion to show the above, in speech, and is not strictly a literal claim. "Almighty" also has to do with the encompassing power of the 7th Chakra which can appear to be "Infinite".
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:The idea of an "almighty God" is an unreal evaluation made as a false claim by xianity. It does not exist in the real universe. We do not ascribe to this idea. This idea coming from the enemy is a total lie as you can see, since, they are not "almighty".
Satan can be "almighty" when it comes to affairs, locations, places, planets, or segments of existence. But omnipotent almighty-ness is not the case. This is why the enemy is at war with us and we with them.
The term almighty can be used in a notion to show the above, in speech, and is not strictly a literal claim. "Almighty" also has to do with the encompassing power of the 7th Chakra which can appear to be "Infinite".
Serbon said:And if he is, why didn't he stop the angels and reptilians cutting him off from us, and other evils?
Caster said:I did like to indicate that calling Satan a God is also ascribing that he is an almighty being, because that is essentially what "God" means, the highest form in existence and the ruler and creator of everything.
I know Satan is very powerful and advanced beyond that of humans but I think he is still a man, is it ethical to call him a God. Because you are lebelling him as some kind of divine deity just like how the Christians see jehova and Muslims see allah.
Caster said:I did like to indicate that calling Satan a God is also ascribing that he is an almighty being, because that is essentially what "God" means, the highest form in existence and the ruler and creator of everything.
I know Satan is very powerful and advanced beyond that of humans but I think he is still a man, is it ethical to call him a God. Because you are lebelling him as some kind of divine deity just like how the Christians see jehova and Muslims see allah.
VoiceofEnki said:
Caster said:The word God is only used as an omnipotent and omniscience force that created and controls the universe, it is not used for flesh beings, Satan is a flesh being. It is used in terms of an all encompassing creative force.
Shiva, Vishnu and braman are all deities which signifies the universal forces of nature(energies) which governs the universe they are not physical beings like you and me they are energy, You are the one who seems to be stuck in abrahamic mindset because you are describing a physical being just like you as a God or as your God and saviour.
Further more the magnum opus does not make anyone a God, the text states that upon completing the magnum opus we become "Godlike".which means that we achieve Godlike powers and abilities but we don't become Gods as many believe.
Caster said:I know Satan is very powerful and advanced beyond that of humans but I think he is still a man, is it ethical to call him a God. Because you are lebelling him as some kind of divine deity just like how the Christians see jehova and Muslims see allah.
Caster said:Your definition of God is so flawed that it makes me laugh, before you said the aether was God now you say it is just energy. everything in existence comes from one source, God or if you call it the aether is the source of all things and consciousness. We did not create ourselves nor did we send ourselves here. We came from a place so we are not Gods yet until we have reached source.StraitShot47 said:Caster said:The word God is only used as an omnipotent and omniscience force that created and controls the universe, it is not used for flesh beings, Satan is a flesh being. It is used in terms of an all encompassing creative force.
Shiva, Vishnu and braman are all deities which signifies the universal forces of nature(energies) which governs the universe they are not physical beings like you and me they are energy, You are the one who seems to be stuck in abrahamic mindset because you are describing a physical being just like you as a God or as your God and saviour.
Further more the magnum opus does not make anyone a God, the text states that upon completing the magnum opus we become "Godlike".which means that we achieve Godlike powers and abilities but we don't become Gods as many believe.
That force you're describing isn't a "god" in our eyes. It's just that a force and we call this force "Aether". This aether controls us as we control it, hence the saying "as above, so below".
I'm sorry you don't believe Shiva, Vishnu and Braman walked this Earth as physical beings. But we at the Joy of Satan do believe they walked this Earth like a human. Some of us, me included, believe Hitler was an Avatar of Vishnu. Avatars aren't born, an appropriate physical body that is spiritually advanced, mentally capable and has similar thought patterns can manifest into an Avatar.
I don't know where you are getting this definition of "magnum opus", but I think you're wrong. You say it is "godlike" while we believe these beings as "human like". They look human, but have abilities that we could only dream of and what would seem is an immortal life span.
The ancients never had Gods, they did not worship braman, Vishnu or Shiva as a God they saw this as the forces of nature, braman is the force that creates, Vishnu is the preserving force, and Shiva is the force that destroys the universe after it has gone through the maha pralaya(one braman cosmic night) and then braman creates the universe again on the maha kalpa(one braman cosmic day), they are not physical beings, they are a personification of different forces or energies of the universe. The different manifestation of energy consciousness. That is how the Indians see it. You are really confused if you thing they are physical beings who walked this earth, then you don't really know anything about them thank you
Our Gods and Goddesses do not want nor need worship, though. They have much better - better in various ways - other things instead, i.e. what we have been presented with on the JoS website with meditations and witchcraft. The reason the jew needs slavish worship is because it can't advance far. The top rabbis might be more-powerful than the current-average Goy (derogatory jew word for non-jews, singular; plural is "Goyim") spiritually, but the jew still needs the love, reverence, hero worship, celebrity worship, etc. It is a literal parasite, just a very advanced parasite, but a parasite nonetheless.Caster said:Fantastic point fancy, there many beings who come here with high advance technology and spiritual abilities and these beings are worshiped as gods by the primitive people, this does not only have to do with Satan but other advanced extraterrestrials as well. They display advance technology and psychic abilities and these natives see them as gods.FancyMancy said:Donald Trump was president of USA, but many said, "He is not my president!. The reptillians, greys, etc., are gods but they are weak and shit, yet many and not our gods. Consider biblical stories - "his lord said to my lord...", or if you want visual representations, watch Stargate - SG1, where "gods" and "goddesses" have subjects; each "god/goddess" has its subjects who refuse to acknowledge the god/goddess-ness of anyone who is not their own god/goddess.
Characters in the bibles who met "angels" bowed before them as gods. If we, Humans on Earth who are not as powerful as the Gods and Goddesses, went to another primitive Planet with our space-faring vehicles, electricity-powered light bulbs and microwaves and radios and TVs, and lasers which can cause fire or lighters or just matches and fuel... and they on that Planet saw us, they might very-well call us gods/goddesses. Because the Universe is infinite and eternal, then there may be others more-powerful than Satan, whom Satan might refer to as Gods/Goddesses. "God" is polysemic - having multiple meanings or understandings. I also specify "Goddess" to refer to Females, of course.
Although we see them as gods they are people like us, only that they are on a higher level of evolution. This means that they are us in the future.
I like that you understand this point. You can call them gods because they are advanced, have advanced technology and gadgets, but thing is they are still people like us, only that their wisdom and knowlegde are superior to that of humans.
He*Caster said:fancy mancy's definition, She made a valid point
Caster said:That is how the Indians see it.
**[Late 2002 through the spring of 2003] Myself and three other High Priests and a High Priestess performed energy work on the Demons. They are NOT monsters. Many are well known and popular EGYPTIAN GODS. For centuries, they have been spiritually abused using enemy god names, nine foot circles and a plethora of blasphemies and insults. This is the reason many appeared as monsters. The Demons are all of the Pre-Christian Gods; the ORIGINAL PAGAN GODS.
- High Priestess Maxine Dietrich, May, 2003
Many of us have seen Satan. He has nothing to hide. Satan and his Demons, [as well as some of the "angels" of the Christian Bible and their cohorts] are of the alien race known as "Nordics."
Caster said:Your definition of God is so flawed that it makes me laugh, before you said the aether was God now you say it is just energy. everything in existence comes from one source, God or if you call it the aether is the source of all things and consciousness. We did not create ourselves nor did we send ourselves here. We came from a place so we are not Gods yet until we have reached source.StraitShot47 said:Caster said:The word God is only used as an omnipotent and omniscience force that created and controls the universe, it is not used for flesh beings, Satan is a flesh being. It is used in terms of an all encompassing creative force.
Shiva, Vishnu and braman are all deities which signifies the universal forces of nature(energies) which governs the universe they are not physical beings like you and me they are energy, You are the one who seems to be stuck in abrahamic mindset because you are describing a physical being just like you as a God or as your God and saviour.
Further more the magnum opus does not make anyone a God, the text states that upon completing the magnum opus we become "Godlike".which means that we achieve Godlike powers and abilities but we don't become Gods as many believe.
That force you're describing isn't a "god" in our eyes. It's just that a force and we call this force "Aether". This aether controls us as we control it, hence the saying "as above, so below".
I'm sorry you don't believe Shiva, Vishnu and Braman walked this Earth as physical beings. But we at the Joy of Satan do believe they walked this Earth like a human. Some of us, me included, believe Hitler was an Avatar of Vishnu. Avatars aren't born, an appropriate physical body that is spiritually advanced, mentally capable and has similar thought patterns can manifest into an Avatar.
I don't know where you are getting this definition of "magnum opus", but I think you're wrong. You say it is "godlike" while we believe these beings as "human like". They look human, but have abilities that we could only dream of and what would seem is an immortal life span.
The ancients never had Gods, they did not worship braman, Vishnu or Shiva as a God they saw this as the forces of nature, braman is the force that creates, Vishnu is the preserving force, and Shiva is the force that destroys the universe after it has gone through the maha pralaya(one braman cosmic night) and then braman creates the universe again on the maha kalpa(one braman cosmic day), they are not physical beings, they are a personification of different forces or energies of the universe. The different manifestation of energy consciousness. That is how the Indians see it. You are really confused if you thing they are physical beings who walked this earth, then you don't really know anything about them thank you
If you keep slandering Satan you won't last here long. Have you read the forum rules?Caster said:When one completes the magnum you don't become a God you become godlike, you are the one who is confused because you don't know the difference between being a God and being Godlike.
You keep saying I am saying abrahamic definition, but am not the one who is calling Satan who is an extraterrestrial as my God, you deffinately have a space daddy. you need to realize God does not living on another planet, God is an unseen creative force. And God is within us not on outside, but I rest my case since this may just bring more argument.
Lastly am not new to satanism, I understand alot thank you.
Caster said:When one completes the magnum you don't become a God you become godlike, you are the one who is confused because you don't know the difference between being a God and being Godlike.
You keep saying I am saying abrahamic definition, but am not the one who is calling Satan who is an extraterrestrial as my God, you deffinately have a space daddy. you need to realize God does not living on another planet, God is an unseen creative force. And God is within us not on outside, but I rest my case since this may just bring more argument.
Lastly am not new to satanism, I understand alot thank you.
VoiceofEnki said:Caster said:.....
Where did you get this idea of God? Or how did you come up with it? It's not realistic and would only be a fairy tale. I see two possibilities here; either you're trolling or you really are misinformed. Ok, so you say God is in every man. What exactly do you mean? Can you clearly explain this statement? Because I'll tell you that this is a statement the enemy threw out there to corrupt spirituality and deceive people so they don't do actual spiritual advancement. What can the average man do that even remotely taps into the idea of God? The average person lacks even basic psychic abilities like astral vision but somehow 'God is in them'. This is just a statement that people who have no clue or experience with real occult and spiritual advancement use to feel better and 'spiritual', while the 'misinformed' JoS people are already tapping into forces 99.99% of people out there will not in their lifetime, like safely working with the kundalini.Caster said:I am not trying to slender Satan or your Gods and I apologize if it seems like that, but humans deify things too much, some deify images, statutes("MOLOCH" is an example of this) they even worship celebrities, gurus or anybody they see as perfect.people worship other people. extraterrestrials have been called Gods on earth for a very long time including reptilians, this is why I say, the fact that humans see people that are above them or people of high status as gods is not new. The earth are such in a primitive state and in a lower state of consciousness that any light being who comes here with shinning aura, great advance abilities and advance technology will be seen as gods.
God is in every man but man looks outside himself for God. Satan told Salem burke not to refer to him as a God, he also told hp Maxine that God is a code word for the self(the soul) and he told her the true way to reach Godhead was to know thyself. He wants us to know ourselves that we are all made of the same stuff, we are a soul with unimaginable power and we are all creators, meaning we have godlike abilities but are not aware of it. Satan's purpose for the magnum opus is for us to become godlike.
If Satan probably was a God I don't think he will still be in this physical plane fighting wars and dealing with physical things, he would have been up somewhere in the spiritual planes and he would not probable need food to survive and would not able to be killed.
That is what being a god means, being infinite, pure and eternal.
Blackdragon666 said:...Caster said:
There is an attitude Caster came with that reeks of disrespect for Satan, even going as far as calling Him a sky daddy. That and also how well he knows the JoS, including old writings of Salem Burke. I have very low tolerance with people who disrespect Satan so I may have gone a bit overboard in my reply to him.VoiceofEnki said:Caster said:VoiceofEnki said:.....
Blackdragon666 said:I have very low tolerance with people who disrespect Satan...
Caster said:Shut up, who told you he is stronger than me.you better watch the way you talk to people. You don't know the meter of persons strength so don't just assume.
Caster said:From your explanation it seems that it is your words which is of a Jewish false God,you said "Satan is within us all" of course he is not in us all, he is a physical being just like you and me, he is not some omnipresent force that is in every man. then you say "he knows what happening at all times", that sounds like how the Jewish God watches us at all times and knows everythung we are doing. And what do you mean by he can solve problems with the speed of light, no being can solve problems within the speed of light no matter how powerful they are or else we would have been out of this situation on earth a long time ago. And Satan is not the highest God either. Realistically as I have said he is a godlike being, an ascended master not a God, and in this universe of infinite lifeforms there are other beings that are more powerful than him even if you may not accept that. When you want to debunk someone first make sure that you are well informed.NinRick said:Caster said:Shut up, who told you he is stronger than me.you better watch the way you talk to people. You don't know the meter of persons strength so don't just assume.
You lack basic understanding, of course you are way weaker than him.
I am only justifying the problem with deifying extraterrestrials beings as Gods, they may be teachers and guides to us,teaching us what we need to know but they are not our Gods take it or leave it.
And If you think not calling another entity a God makes me weaker you are simply still a child and should grow up.
Caster said:Yes and you are the one who lack basic understanding, saying that satan is omnipresent, the al jilwah "there is not place that knows not my presence" was referring to the "chi" which is everywhere and in everything. I thought you even new better, this shows you have little experience and know little about him. You are still stuck in the Jewish explanation of God. You are the one who's way weaker than voiceofEnki not me.NinRick said:Strength needs understanding, and from strength there comes understanding
Caster said:Yes and you are the one who lack basic understanding, saying that satan is omnipresent, the al jilwah "there is not place that knows not my presence" was referring to the "chi" which is everywhere and in everything. I thought you even new better, this shows you have little experience and know little about him. You are still stuck in the Jewish explanation of God. You are the one who's way weaker than voiceofEnki not me.NinRick said:Strength needs understanding, and from strength there comes understanding
Caster said:Yes and you are the one who lack basic understanding, saying that satan is omnipresent, the al jilwah "there is not place that knows not my presence" was referring to the "chi" which is everywhere and in everything. I thought you even new better, this shows you have little experience and know little about him. You are still stuck in the Jewish explanation of God. You are the one who's way weaker than voiceofEnki not me.NinRick said:Strength needs understanding, and from strength there comes understanding
Caster said:Yes and you are the one who lack basic understanding, saying that satan is omnipresent, the al jilwah "there is not place that knows not my presence" was referring to the "chi" which is everywhere and in everything. I thought you even new better, this shows you have little experience and know little about him. You are still stuck in the Jewish explanation of God. You are the one who's way weaker than voiceofEnki not me.NinRick said:Strength needs understanding, and from strength there comes understanding
You're trying to lecture VoiceofEnki of all people...Caster said:I understand what you are saying but don't follow that, I don't support the idea of deifying other people, you may think Satan is a God but I will use the term he is godlike. Satan is powerful, benevolent and on a much higher level of evolution to humans, and he wants to help humans ascend, but is he our God. Probably not. Am not going to keep arguing about what the word God means because to me God can mean many things, it can be the soul, the forces of nature, the universe, or the pure creative force from which all existence and consciousness is born. People say this is the aether but I think the aether is just energy and is not the source of all creation, I think there are much higher force that are higher than the aether. Am not trying to discredit you, you just seem to call other people your God but I do not.because these Gods are people as well, I do not have any God. I am advancing to godhead and I do not believe any extraterrestrial or human to be my God even if they are very powerful. I don't take them as Gods.
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Caster said:Lastly I follow Satan as well because I follow what is good and light, but I do not worship him as a God or see him as my creator God, to me he's just a being with advance power and I do not deify him as some highest God in the universe.
This answer goes for both you and ninRick
Caster said:Your blabbering nonsense makes you look even more stupid, you don't realize your not as experienced as you think, heirachy dose not equal deification fool, you have this deluded reasoning that because something is superior to us we should take it as God. A really primitive form of reasoning even though you think you are advanced, the reptilians are in shut real beings, so you are deceiving yourself, and because Satan is higher than me dosnt mean I will take him as my God, I know for sure he is not my God even though he may be different other things, the idea of deification does not appeal to me. You can be as powerful as you want but you can not be my God that is it. So you can keep ramble your primitive reasonings of extraterrestrial deification. I can respect beings that are superior to me and are benevolent, but I do not deify them as my Gods or call them my Gods simple child.
Secondly your quote on braman is even worst than the first one.because braman is an energy consciousness and not No Thing. Braman does not have anything to do with the second death of the soul, he helps in the advancement of the soul to godhead, which is why the godhead in the east is know as the bramans loka, and the part to raise the kundalini is clearly written in the "Brahman vidya". As stupid as your explanation is you still try to call me a fool when you are the big fool
Lastly I follow Satan as well because I follow what is good and light, but I do not worship him as a God or see him as my creator God, to me he's just a being with advance power and I do not deify him as some highest God in the universe.
This answer goes for both you and ninRick
tabby said:Caster said:Your blabbering nonsense makes you look even more stupid, you don't realize your not as experienced as you think, heirachy dose not equal deification fool, you have this deluded reasoning that because something is superior to us we should take it as God. A really primitive form of reasoning even though you think you are advanced, the reptilians are in shut real beings, so you are deceiving yourself, and because Satan is higher than me dosnt mean I will take him as my God, I know for sure he is not my God even though he may be different other things, the idea of deification does not appeal to me. You can be as powerful as you want but you can not be my God that is it. So you can keep ramble your primitive reasonings of extraterrestrial deification. I can respect beings that are superior to me and are benevolent, but I do not deify them as my Gods or call them my Gods simple child.
Secondly your quote on braman is even worst than the first one.because braman is an energy consciousness and not No Thing. Braman does not have anything to do with the second death of the soul, he helps in the advancement of the soul to godhead, which is why the godhead in the east is know as the bramans loka, and the part to raise the kundalini is clearly written in the "Brahman vidya". As stupid as your explanation is you still try to call me a fool when you are the big fool
Lastly I follow Satan as well because I follow what is good and light, but I do not worship him as a God or see him as my creator God, to me he's just a being with advance power and I do not deify him as some highest God in the universe.
This answer goes for both you and ninRick
Pfft hahaha. You’re here on the JoS telling other people to read its content while you continue to think Father Satan isn’t the Creator God of humanity? You’re a joke.
Father does not want slavish worship. But regardless, if you don’t consider him your Creator and a deity, how can you follow him when you reject one very key thing about his existence?
Our High Priests are superior to us, do we call them Gods because they are superior? No, they are High Priests, they have not yet reached the level of advancement to become deified yet. You should read HP HoodedCobra’s recent post about spiritual rank among our Gods.
Why am I even trying to reason with you? I’ve not seen anyone around here before argue so strongly that Father Satan is not their Creator.
Caster said:An just to give one last example so your more primitive brain can understand, since you like the idea of having a space daddy or a space God.
To end this let's say we humans manage to achieve some level of advancement and we build a spaceship for intergalactic travel, let's say we go to a planet that is similar to earth, were majority of the people are primitive, don't respect each other and are lost and there is always war and death, if we" the more civilized people go there with our technology and offer to teach them civilization and give some amount of spiritual information some of those people will call us gods, they will worship us. That is same how most humans do to E.Ts, I have heard some stories were extraterrestrials refused to get much involved with earth humans because they dont want humans to look up to them as Gods.
Of course it is people like you that will think like that but people like me know better, the idea of a space daddy dosnt apply to me, you can fuck off right now if you think am going to listen to your lower sense of reasoning.
Blackdragon666 said:There is an attitude Caster came with that reeks of disrespect for Satan, even going as far as calling Him a sky daddy. That and also how well he knows the JoS, including old writings of Salem Burke. I have very low tolerance with people who disrespect Satan so I may have gone a bit overboard in my reply to him.
Anyway, in case he is not trolling he definitely has a huge chance of advancing.
"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan