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is Satan almighty?

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And if he is, why didn't he stop the angels and reptilians cutting him off from us, and other evils?
 
The idea of an "almighty God" is an unreal evaluation made as a false claim by xianity. It does not exist in the real universe. We do not ascribe to this idea. This idea coming from the enemy is a total lie as you can see, since, they are not "almighty".

Satan can be "almighty" when it comes to affairs, locations, places, planets, or segments of existence. But omnipotent almighty-ness is not the case. This is why the enemy is at war with us and we with them.

The term almighty can be used in a notion to show the above, in speech, and is not strictly a literal claim. "Almighty" also has to do with the encompassing power of the 7th Chakra which can appear to be "Infinite".
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
The idea of an "almighty God" is an unreal evaluation made as a false claim by xianity. It does not exist in the real universe. We do not ascribe to this idea. This idea coming from the enemy is a total lie as you can see, since, they are not "almighty".

Satan can be "almighty" when it comes to affairs, locations, places, planets, or segments of existence. But omnipotent almighty-ness is not the case. This is why the enemy is at war with us and we with them.

The term almighty can be used in a notion to show the above, in speech, and is not strictly a literal claim. "Almighty" also has to do with the encompassing power of the 7th Chakra which can appear to be "Infinite".

Thank you for answering!
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
The idea of an "almighty God" is an unreal evaluation made as a false claim by xianity. It does not exist in the real universe. We do not ascribe to this idea. This idea coming from the enemy is a total lie as you can see, since, they are not "almighty".

Satan can be "almighty" when it comes to affairs, locations, places, planets, or segments of existence. But omnipotent almighty-ness is not the case. This is why the enemy is at war with us and we with them.

The term almighty can be used in a notion to show the above, in speech, and is not strictly a literal claim. "Almighty" also has to do with the encompassing power of the 7th Chakra which can appear to be "Infinite".

And the enemy will say "God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent! He allows Satan and 'Evil" to prosper so that "greater goods" can be achieved!"

Just accept the fact Goyim that you'll be used as cannon fodder, to impose communism, for all eternity! Just accept our, human hating, Rabbis and Reptiles as your leaders for all eternity!

"This is the last planet we have to conquer Goyim, trust us!" Not that you'll ever remember anyway, because your spiritually dead and enslaved!
 
Serbon said:
And if he is, why didn't he stop the angels and reptilians cutting him off from us, and other evils?

There are pdfs in Satan's library that explains this
I read one today again "dealing with Astral entitys" im not sure which one exactly it was but its there. O and btw HPHC some of thouse PDFs don't want to download im not sure if its a problem with my phone or a problem from JoS.
Im just telling you so you know.
 
Caster said:
I did like to indicate that calling Satan a God is also ascribing that he is an almighty being, because that is essentially what "God" means, the highest form in existence and the ruler and creator of everything.
I know Satan is very powerful and advanced beyond that of humans but I think he is still a man, is it ethical to call him a God. Because you are lebelling him as some kind of divine deity just like how the Christians see jehova and Muslims see allah.

I don't agree at all, and sounds like you're stuck in the abrahamic mindset. Or better yet, stuck I'm a Monotheistic mindset.

"Allah" and "Yahweh" and "Jehovah" these names and definitions came after our Pagan Gods. You have to remove this idea of "God" encompassing and controlling everything. No such being like this exists.

Shiva is a God, yet didn't create the universe. Vishnu is a God, but didn't create the universe. Zeus is a God but didn't create the universe.

A God is a being that is better than what we humans think is capable. The Gods usually have a hierarchy, with one at the top. Yet the hierarchies are made up of Gods.

Again what you're describing is more of a "Monotheistic" mindset. While we, at the JOS, acknowledge many Gods like the Pagans of old and Eastern religions.
 
Caster said:
I did like to indicate that calling Satan a God is also ascribing that he is an almighty being, because that is essentially what "God" means, the highest form in existence and the ruler and creator of everything.
I know Satan is very powerful and advanced beyond that of humans but I think he is still a man, is it ethical to call him a God. Because you are lebelling him as some kind of divine deity just like how the Christians see jehova and Muslims see allah.

This is a semantics argument, thus irrelevant. Father Satan is a half a million year old super-being who is the most powerful entity we as humanity know of. None of the enemy rulers have lived for nearly as long as he has, according to HPS Maxine, whom I believe.

"God" in this instance is simply used to refer to beings who have far more power than we do and who some here, such as myself, rightfully view as Perfect.
 
VoiceofEnki said:

I just wanted to thank you for explaining me that we have to strive to balance the element within our souls.
It made me realize that we have to strive for Balance in EVERY aspect of life. Well learned it a harder way.

Also thank you for sharing a technique to clean our Chakras individually using Satanama and scanning light.

People like you should actually talk more, you have no clue how tremendously helpful you are.

I salute you brother, literally doing it rn.
 
Donald Trump was president of USA, but many said, "He is not my president!. The reptillians, greys, etc., are gods but they are weak and shit, yet many and not our gods. Consider biblical stories - "his lord said to my lord...", or if you want visual representations, watch Stargate - SG1, where "gods" and "goddesses" have subjects; each "god/goddess" has its subjects who refuse to acknowledge the god/goddess-ness of anyone who is not their own god/goddess.

Characters in the bibles who met "angels" bowed before them as gods. If we, Humans on Earth who are not as powerful as the Gods and Goddesses, went to another primitive Planet with our space-faring vehicles, electricity-powered light bulbs and microwaves and radios and TVs, and lasers which can cause fire or lighters or just matches and fuel... and they on that Planet saw us, they might very-well call us gods/goddesses. Because the Universe is infinite and eternal, then there may be others more-powerful than Satan, whom Satan might refer to as Gods/Goddesses. "God" is polysemic - having multiple meanings or understandings. I also specify "Goddess" to refer to Females, of course.
 
Nothing is "almighty." Nothing is "omnipotent."
Nothing is "perfect." Nor "sinless."

These are empty, vapid and meaningless concepts created for the purpose of enslaving childish, illiterate bronze age minds into slavering after a fictional concept required to create a jewish ruling class and obedience to judy-ism's hideous children of Xianity and Pisslam.

Even if such a thing were demonstrable, would you desire it?
Ponder for a moment even the concept of "forever."
Eternity, time unending. Nothing is forever - life, death, rebirth. We are all made of universe matter, stardust, if you will.
We endure birth, life, death, rebirth - as do the trees and even the stars and planets themselves reform from dispersed matter.

I am going to digress as this topic keeps coming up. Brevity may be the soul of wit, but a good rant takes time and crafting.

Cracklicks have the ancient tradition of locking up their clerical order members from an early age (they used to be born into it though their king in the stupid hat now makes it look like they have options by requiring a period of time "in the world") so we have a centuries old practice of keeping human beings "untainted" by life experiences, formed into "soldiers" and gatekeepers for their rulers, keeping them at all stages of life utterly dependent and malleable by their keepers, as their wish for the entire world.

There's a bar, a windowless dive on a street corner where a nun is loudly protesting the "den of inequity" and "whores of Babylon." A man walks up to enter and pauses. "Sister, you're really one to talk. You live in a convent, cloistered from sin, you've never experienced anything. What can you speak of alcohol?"
The nun quiets, draws a breath and admits "well, young man, you have a good point there. I suppose if I were only to try one tipple, just once, I would know. I must immediately confess my sin, but at least I would have the reference point."
The man smiles at the conversational progress he's made and says, "there, that's talking some sense. Think of the compassion for your congregants you'll gain and the knowledge that personal choices are within our own control. I'll buy you one."
The nun blushes and tells him "It must be discrete. Be sure it's in a paper cup, out here on the patio of this vile place. It wouldn't look right for a sister to be - dram taking."
"Of course! I'll get you a nice gin and tonic, in a paper cup."
So the man walks in, orders a pint of stout and a G&T in a paper cup.
"Paper cup?" the bartender growls. "That bloody nun's out there again?"

Anything regarded as "perfect" or "sinless" is better read as "untested."
Without demonstrating a capacity for purpose, intent, self control (direction) and capability, "sinlessness" and its antonyms
are unknown commodities. Goods kept in the package do not show themselves to be factory seconds.

The Abrahamic "god" concept is laughably silly in its very concept. Pulling at just one thread of its tapestry unravels it entirely.
So, to get back to "is Satan omnipotent?" No. All things in existence have their structure and limitations.
Gods have their domain, their abilities and their ethics.
As do we. No human being is all powerful (see the rejection of the overpowered 'SFC,' 'Mary Sue' characters of entertainment? same stuff, different labeling). We all have things we can't do, aren't good at and need help with. Gods are specialists. Some have a broader range of experience, ability and expertise. I wouldn't call on Buer when I need Bacchus.
As a lifelong student of animal husbandry, purebred animals have a Standard of Perfection they are judged to but even a
"perfect" dog still has faults and a perfect Rottweiler is not a perfect Springer Spaniel and I would not ask a Spaniel to do Mastiff tasks. This is how I see the demons. They are beautiful in their domain. We have a panoply of demons because have different specialties. Same reason there are more than 1200 breeds of dog recognised by umbrella registries, yet all dogs have known samenesses in their canine genus.
The enemy wants to promulgate the notion of a cartoon character super-dooper ultra oh my god goddy god. This is just a thoughtform to distract and keep the obedience of the "sheep."
With that we have our duty as humans in service with, and to Satan and his demons to push back and overthrow the enemies to reconstruct humanity and this good earth from before the parasite infested it.

To quote a particular professional atheist YouTuber, "If your god can do anything, then why can't he real?"

There is a world of difference between perfection [i[/i] and ideal.
Satan is our ideal. We are loyal to him, his goals, his aims, we trust his plan and we strive to achieve he most for him in our imperfect scope of ability.
We may use the weak limitations of human language and characterise Satan as "perfect" as to us, subjectively, he is.
To the choo, camel raper and quitchybo, their Mickey Mouse god is "perfect." Perfectly vile, perfectly murderous, perfectly destroying of innocence, perfectly genocidal - and they get off on that.

If the concept of perfection were demonstrable, would you desire it?
 
Caster said:
The word God is only used as an omnipotent and omniscience force that created and controls the universe, it is not used for flesh beings, Satan is a flesh being. It is used in terms of an all encompassing creative force.
Shiva, Vishnu and braman are all deities which signifies the universal forces of nature(energies) which governs the universe they are not physical beings like you and me they are energy, You are the one who seems to be stuck in abrahamic mindset because you are describing a physical being just like you as a God or as your God and saviour.

Further more the magnum opus does not make anyone a God, the text states that upon completing the magnum opus we become "Godlike".which means that we achieve Godlike powers and abilities but we don't become Gods as many believe.

That force you're describing isn't a "god" in our eyes. It's just that a force and we call this force "Aether". This aether controls us as we control it, hence the saying "as above, so below".

I'm sorry you don't believe Shiva, Vishnu and Braman walked this Earth as physical beings. But we at the Joy of Satan do believe they walked this Earth like a human. Some of us, me included, believe Hitler was an Avatar of Vishnu. Avatars aren't born, an appropriate physical body that is spiritually advanced, mentally capable and has similar thought patterns can manifest into an Avatar.

I don't know where you are getting this definition of "magnum opus", but I think you're wrong. You say it is "godlike" while we believe these beings as "human like". They look human, but have abilities that we could only dream of and what would seem is an immortal life span.
 
Hi good question and perfectly answered too. I believe its the Hebrew who has cut us off with their lies. I'm introducing and dedicating people to Satan often, but the image surrounding Farther needs to be cleaned up because people are scared when they view material the way its all set out on the web its difficult to bring people back to Satan, I tell them to ignore the rubbish and focus on Farther.
 
Its very simple. "GOD" or Brahman is the all encompassing energy field which manifests in the lower dimensions as Duality and thus Material Reality. He who realizes the Brahman or "GOD" as in syncs with it ,which is a spiritual connection where you are open to the Superconciousness field ,not cut off like Humans are currently. Currently the pathway is blocked as the Kundalini serpent is at the base ,instead of outside of the crown channeling the Superconciousness field.

Like a tree which take in oxygen and converts it into food. You cannot sync with the Superconciousness field unless you are free of the negative gross ego through the spiritual purification process, your chakras and nadis are strong enough to handle that much energy and you have the one pointed concentration where you can have an ego without an identity.

He who realizes the Brahman and ascends the Kundalini is a realized Yogi. And he who attains physical immorality in that ascended state is a God.

I know for certain Greys are not in any ascended state. They are hivemind creatures with ESP qualities being remotely controlled by nexus points of Greys who seem to have some capacity and consciousness. But they are not in any Superconciousness state. Their lifespan is extremely low and they are not immortal. As for Reptilians i have no idea. It does not seem like any creature who is synced with the Superconciousness, would try to hurt its creation and manipulate it forcefully. It seems particularly alien and mimicking type behavior.
 
Caster said:
I know Satan is very powerful and advanced beyond that of humans but I think he is still a man, is it ethical to call him a God. Because you are lebelling him as some kind of divine deity just like how the Christians see jehova and Muslims see allah.

The word God has many different meanings. Roman emperors who did great service were 'deified' with a formal ceremony and were called gods. There are primitive tribes who worship idols made of stone or metal and believe these are gods.

As Satanists we don't accept the RHP definition of god being someone all-powerful without a physical body.

Satan and the Gods of Hell (Demons) are not humans. They are alien beings of the Nordic species and have superior genes than humans. They are a different species than us.

The Pagan Gods are Satan and the Demons. They are not "forces" or "energy" but aliens/extraterrestrials. Enki is Satan. This has all been explained on JoS which you should read.

Yahweh/Jehova is a collective of enemy alien beings too. In the bible he's described having physical characteristics. Moses saw his ass because he would die if he saw his face.

Exodus 33:20

And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.

Exodus 33:22-23

And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by. And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

A spirit being can't have a face, hand and "back parts".

There is more about how Yahweh is described as a physical being in the bible here

You said Shiva is energy but he's not. Shiva is no other than Satan. You should read search the forums for Shiva. The ancients weren't stupid to personalize some "force" and depict it as a being with hands and a physical body. They were painted as physical human like beings because they were like that.
 
Caster said:
StraitShot47 said:
Caster said:
The word God is only used as an omnipotent and omniscience force that created and controls the universe, it is not used for flesh beings, Satan is a flesh being. It is used in terms of an all encompassing creative force.
Shiva, Vishnu and braman are all deities which signifies the universal forces of nature(energies) which governs the universe they are not physical beings like you and me they are energy, You are the one who seems to be stuck in abrahamic mindset because you are describing a physical being just like you as a God or as your God and saviour.

Further more the magnum opus does not make anyone a God, the text states that upon completing the magnum opus we become "Godlike".which means that we achieve Godlike powers and abilities but we don't become Gods as many believe.

That force you're describing isn't a "god" in our eyes. It's just that a force and we call this force "Aether". This aether controls us as we control it, hence the saying "as above, so below".

I'm sorry you don't believe Shiva, Vishnu and Braman walked this Earth as physical beings. But we at the Joy of Satan do believe they walked this Earth like a human. Some of us, me included, believe Hitler was an Avatar of Vishnu. Avatars aren't born, an appropriate physical body that is spiritually advanced, mentally capable and has similar thought patterns can manifest into an Avatar.

I don't know where you are getting this definition of "magnum opus", but I think you're wrong. You say it is "godlike" while we believe these beings as "human like". They look human, but have abilities that we could only dream of and what would seem is an immortal life span.
Your definition of God is so flawed that it makes me laugh, before you said the aether was God now you say it is just energy. everything in existence comes from one source, God or if you call it the aether is the source of all things and consciousness. We did not create ourselves nor did we send ourselves here. We came from a place so we are not Gods yet until we have reached source.
The ancients never had Gods, they did not worship braman, Vishnu or Shiva as a God they saw this as the forces of nature, braman is the force that creates, Vishnu is the preserving force, and Shiva is the force that destroys the universe after it has gone through the maha pralaya(one braman cosmic night) and then braman creates the universe again on the maha kalpa(one braman cosmic day), they are not physical beings, they are a personification of different forces or energies of the universe. The different manifestation of energy consciousness. That is how the Indians see it. You are really confused if you thing they are physical beings who walked this earth, then you don't really know anything about them thank you

From this response it sounds like your name should read "ArchAngelWarrior777" or "IDFrAbbi". If you're trying to convince people or sway their opinion, have better grammar and don't be so antagonizing.

I never said the "Aether" was god or energy, I said the "aether" was the closest idea to your concept of "god". My idea of "aether" is a conduit for conciousness to move back and forth between planes of existence. If the ancients didn't have Gods then why do they have statues? From what it sounds like to me you're not hindi, and come from an abrahamic background. The idea of not personifying gods comes through your writing.

If your goal is to get us to try to go back to this "source" "god" or whatever you want to call it your barking up the wrong tree. Going back to this source causes pain and atrophy for us. Our goal is to be connected to everything, in control, and an individual all at the same time. If you were so knowledgeable you'd be out in the real world making a difference instead of trying to antagonize us.
 
Using English words which have limited functionality to appropriate older more richer definitions, is always going to create confusion.

Its not Either or. The ascended individuals who are immortal are called Gods.

The Superconciousness field of Pure consciousness (Light) is also called God (The Brahman.)

Standard male social behavior is called masculine. Women find this sexy.

The Will or Direction given to energy is called the masculine principle (Shiva). Women don't know what this is.

So you can see how different definitions encompassed by the same English words create confusion.
 
Caster said:
FancyMancy said:
Donald Trump was president of USA, but many said, "He is not my president!. The reptillians, greys, etc., are gods but they are weak and shit, yet many and not our gods. Consider biblical stories - "his lord said to my lord...", or if you want visual representations, watch Stargate - SG1, where "gods" and "goddesses" have subjects; each "god/goddess" has its subjects who refuse to acknowledge the god/goddess-ness of anyone who is not their own god/goddess.

Characters in the bibles who met "angels" bowed before them as gods. If we, Humans on Earth who are not as powerful as the Gods and Goddesses, went to another primitive Planet with our space-faring vehicles, electricity-powered light bulbs and microwaves and radios and TVs, and lasers which can cause fire or lighters or just matches and fuel... and they on that Planet saw us, they might very-well call us gods/goddesses. Because the Universe is infinite and eternal, then there may be others more-powerful than Satan, whom Satan might refer to as Gods/Goddesses. "God" is polysemic - having multiple meanings or understandings. I also specify "Goddess" to refer to Females, of course.
Fantastic point fancy, there many beings who come here with high advance technology and spiritual abilities and these beings are worshiped as gods by the primitive people, this does not only have to do with Satan but other advanced extraterrestrials as well. They display advance technology and psychic abilities and these natives see them as gods.
Although we see them as gods they are people like us, only that they are on a higher level of evolution. This means that they are us in the future.
I like that you understand this point. You can call them gods because they are advanced, have advanced technology and gadgets, but thing is they are still people like us, only that their wisdom and knowlegde are superior to that of humans.
Our Gods and Goddesses do not want nor need worship, though. They have much better - better in various ways - other things instead, i.e. what we have been presented with on the JoS website with meditations and witchcraft. The reason the jew needs slavish worship is because it can't advance far. The top rabbis might be more-powerful than the current-average Goy (derogatory jew word for non-jews, singular; plural is "Goyim") spiritually, but the jew still needs the love, reverence, hero worship, celebrity worship, etc. It is a literal parasite, just a very advanced parasite, but a parasite nonetheless.

See the episode of Futurama The Thief of Baghead for a visual depiction, brought to you by non-other than matt groening, jew. If you do watch it, keep in mind that no-one is "allowed" to see the face of "god" (exodus 33:20), and all that "god" is is an evil thoughtform (egregore); in the episode Souls/Lifeforces being consumed is a large point of it, which is the point of the jew's "religion" programmes, politics, unrepentant way, etc.; see also double-episode of Star Trek TNG - Time's Arrow. There is blasphemic symbolism in there, with the cane/walking stick being a serpent, and the location where the Third Eye Chakra would be on a Human Being being the mouth ingesting the Souls... Star Trek brought to you by non-other than gene roddenberry, jew.

The jew has nothing original nor unique of its own. What it has is stolen, twisted, perverted and corrupted from very, very ancient Human culture - Science, Spirituality, Humanity and Nature AKA Paganism/Spiritual Satanism/ancient Hinduism, which predate anything jewish by many, many thousands of years. The jew loves to change terms and meanings and definitions, but it still needs a connection, hence its use of Pagan/Satanic symbols and off-words. The jew loves to dissimilate; the term "god" will return to its correct meaning in time; the jew is dirty and dirt gets cleaned. Earth is returning to her former glory, clean and pristine and alive, and she shall be encouraged and able to thrive again.

Caster said:
fancy mancy's definition, She made a valid point
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I didn't want to define anything. I just presented different things which I have learnt.
 
Caster said:
That is how the Indians see it.

This has already been addressed before. Modern Hinduism has been corrupted. The original Vedic religion from which Hinduism came did describe the Gods as physical beings flying and fighting in aerial ships called "vimanas". They did know they were extraterrestrial beings. The oldest Indian texts describe the Gods as physical beings and only in the 8th to 6th century BCE with the Upanishads did they believe in some "omnipresent force". The Upanishads are the first texts that mention a "force" called Brahman.

https://infinityexplorers.com/vimanas-the-ancient-flying-machines-of-the-gods

They were described as physical beings in all religions because they were so. They weren't as dumb as some modern scholars think they were, to personify some random natural forces. All the Pagan Gods are our Demons, real extraterrestrial beings although some of their stories are allegorical and do represent parts of the Magnum Opus having to do with Spiritual transformation.

I'm not saying anything new here, it's all in the JoS site which you are supposed to have read it.

**[Late 2002 through the spring of 2003] Myself and three other High Priests and a High Priestess performed energy work on the Demons. They are NOT monsters. Many are well known and popular EGYPTIAN GODS. For centuries, they have been spiritually abused using enemy god names, nine foot circles and a plethora of blasphemies and insults. This is the reason many appeared as monsters. The Demons are all of the Pre-Christian Gods; the ORIGINAL PAGAN GODS.
- High Priestess Maxine Dietrich, May, 2003

Many of us have seen Satan. He has nothing to hide. Satan and his Demons, [as well as some of the "angels" of the Christian Bible and their cohorts] are of the alien race known as "Nordics."

You seem to be stuck again in the New Age definition of a God. As I said, there are as many definitions of god as there are xian denominations. The Roman Emperors who did great service were deified using a special ceremony and were called Gods.

The Satanic definition of God completely differs than the mainstream ones. The word "God" in Satanism is not associated with the word "worship" at all. It is a title for a person who has completed the Magnum Opus and only that.
 
Caster said:
StraitShot47 said:
Caster said:
The word God is only used as an omnipotent and omniscience force that created and controls the universe, it is not used for flesh beings, Satan is a flesh being. It is used in terms of an all encompassing creative force.
Shiva, Vishnu and braman are all deities which signifies the universal forces of nature(energies) which governs the universe they are not physical beings like you and me they are energy, You are the one who seems to be stuck in abrahamic mindset because you are describing a physical being just like you as a God or as your God and saviour.

Further more the magnum opus does not make anyone a God, the text states that upon completing the magnum opus we become "Godlike".which means that we achieve Godlike powers and abilities but we don't become Gods as many believe.

That force you're describing isn't a "god" in our eyes. It's just that a force and we call this force "Aether". This aether controls us as we control it, hence the saying "as above, so below".

I'm sorry you don't believe Shiva, Vishnu and Braman walked this Earth as physical beings. But we at the Joy of Satan do believe they walked this Earth like a human. Some of us, me included, believe Hitler was an Avatar of Vishnu. Avatars aren't born, an appropriate physical body that is spiritually advanced, mentally capable and has similar thought patterns can manifest into an Avatar.

I don't know where you are getting this definition of "magnum opus", but I think you're wrong. You say it is "godlike" while we believe these beings as "human like". They look human, but have abilities that we could only dream of and what would seem is an immortal life span.
Your definition of God is so flawed that it makes me laugh, before you said the aether was God now you say it is just energy. everything in existence comes from one source, God or if you call it the aether is the source of all things and consciousness. We did not create ourselves nor did we send ourselves here. We came from a place so we are not Gods yet until we have reached source.
The ancients never had Gods, they did not worship braman, Vishnu or Shiva as a God they saw this as the forces of nature, braman is the force that creates, Vishnu is the preserving force, and Shiva is the force that destroys the universe after it has gone through the maha pralaya(one braman cosmic night) and then braman creates the universe again on the maha kalpa(one braman cosmic day), they are not physical beings, they are a personification of different forces or energies of the universe. The different manifestation of energy consciousness. That is how the Indians see it. You are really confused if you thing they are physical beings who walked this earth, then you don't really know anything about them thank you

The aether has often been personified as God in many ancient cultures, but this is very relative in the sense of all of existence emanates from it so we just respect it and acknowledge it. However, there are beings who are superior to it in the sense of being able to harness these natural forces to do their bidding. They are higher than 'God', the aether.

Satan is a God in every realistic sense of the word and it is silly to discredit that because He doesn't fit some jewish fairy tale description of the word. The Gods have always been called Gods. And rightfully so. Unless you wanted Him to be the aether itself or something. It lacks consciousness and will; it is subject to the will of masters of the universe who have evolved spiritually enough to harness it. For someone who claims to have been a Satanist for a long time and studied true spirituality, why should you reduce the Godhead to mere definitions and the wording used on an old post? Sure it says godlike abilities but how you assumed HPS Maxine was thinking the same way you are is beyond me, as she has stated many more times that the completion of the MO is indeed ascending into Godhood.

Is electricity more worthy of respect and acknowledgement than the scientists, engineers and technicians who work hard to develop the electronic devices you are using? What can electricity in its natural state do for you if you can't yourself harness it in any useful way? The scientist who comes up with means to harness natural forces is clearly more significant to us than the forces themselves as they lack consciousness and would remain inert or not useful to us for all eternity - until the scientist comes around. This is a loose analogy to help you see the flaw in your thinking. Consciously or subconsciously, you hold on to jewish invented corruptions of true spirituality.
 
Caster said:
When one completes the magnum you don't become a God you become godlike, you are the one who is confused because you don't know the difference between being a God and being Godlike.
You keep saying I am saying abrahamic definition, but am not the one who is calling Satan who is an extraterrestrial as my God, you deffinately have a space daddy. you need to realize God does not living on another planet, God is an unseen creative force. And God is within us not on outside, but I rest my case since this may just bring more argument.

Lastly am not new to satanism, I understand alot thank you.
If you keep slandering Satan you won't last here long. Have you read the forum rules?

I would also like to point out how you cherry picked one phrase from the JoS website and ignored all other instances where it was mentioned that the MO does elevate one into Godhood. Very interesting.

Can you explain exactly what you mean by 'God is an unseen creative force'? How did you arrive at that and what exactly do you mean? Why is it unseen and what exactly is it? Which God is this within you? Are you talking about the same thing in these two statements?

This type of thing is very common in mainstream spirituality due to lack of knowledge. An example is in Astrology. Someone says something like 'Jupiter in Pisces will bring you growth'. You ask them to explain exactly what they mean and they are left dumbfounded or use the offended card. You can't just throw statements around that are meaningless when analyzed. Because we know what God actually means and why we call the Pagan Gods this title. Using blanket statements is always a tell-tale sign of an uninformed or a trolling person.
 
Caster said:
When one completes the magnum you don't become a God you become godlike, you are the one who is confused because you don't know the difference between being a God and being Godlike.
You keep saying I am saying abrahamic definition, but am not the one who is calling Satan who is an extraterrestrial as my God, you deffinately have a space daddy. you need to realize God does not living on another planet, God is an unseen creative force. And God is within us not on outside, but I rest my case since this may just bring more argument.

Lastly am not new to satanism, I understand alot thank you.

You know you are trying to argue with VoiceOfEnki here right? Better know your place when talking to higher-ups.

Your words sound like the jewish false God. Nature is the highest God of creation, but it has no will.
After that comes Satan, the highest God of all.

Also, Satan is within us all, he know always what is going on in which person, he knows our intentions, feelings, thoughts, past, present and future.
He can act and solve problems faster than the speed of light in a fraction of a second.

You better learn to adress Father Satan in a more respectful manner, and try deprogramm your mind.

And also, talking in a mannered fashion to people who are stronger than you is also very wise.
 
VoiceofEnki said:

I wanted to say thank you brother, for such a thorough and well defined explanation. This is about one of the best descriptions I've ever seen regarding an accurate description of what states gods embody in their advancement.

I have been advancing to certain higher stages, and having trouble comprehending, putting into words what I been just starting to experience, and your words really ring true. Thank you so much.

Hail Satan!
 
Caster said:
I am not trying to slender Satan or your Gods and I apologize if it seems like that, but humans deify things too much, some deify images, statutes("MOLOCH" is an example of this) they even worship celebrities, gurus or anybody they see as perfect.people worship other people. extraterrestrials have been called Gods on earth for a very long time including reptilians, this is why I say, the fact that humans see people that are above them or people of high status as gods is not new. The earth are such in a primitive state and in a lower state of consciousness that any light being who comes here with shinning aura, great advance abilities and advance technology will be seen as gods.

God is in every man but man looks outside himself for God. Satan told Salem burke not to refer to him as a God, he also told hp Maxine that God is a code word for the self(the soul) and he told her the true way to reach Godhead was to know thyself. He wants us to know ourselves that we are all made of the same stuff, we are a soul with unimaginable power and we are all creators, meaning we have godlike abilities but are not aware of it. Satan's purpose for the magnum opus is for us to become godlike.

If Satan probably was a God I don't think he will still be in this physical plane fighting wars and dealing with physical things, he would have been up somewhere in the spiritual planes and he would not probable need food to survive and would not able to be killed.
That is what being a god means, being infinite, pure and eternal.
Where did you get this idea of God? Or how did you come up with it? It's not realistic and would only be a fairy tale. I see two possibilities here; either you're trolling or you really are misinformed. Ok, so you say God is in every man. What exactly do you mean? Can you clearly explain this statement? Because I'll tell you that this is a statement the enemy threw out there to corrupt spirituality and deceive people so they don't do actual spiritual advancement. What can the average man do that even remotely taps into the idea of God? The average person lacks even basic psychic abilities like astral vision but somehow 'God is in them'. This is just a statement that people who have no clue or experience with real occult and spiritual advancement use to feel better and 'spiritual', while the 'misinformed' JoS people are already tapping into forces 99.99% of people out there will not in their lifetime, like safely working with the kundalini.

We don't subscribe to a fake slavish worship idea. Satan remains to be what He is with or without a single human acknowledging it. Satan teaches us how to be Gods and the fake ass kissing you're talking about is of jewish origin. You are also wrong in thinking that we as humans in our present state are similar to extraterrestrials like the Nordics. It's not just technology or knowledge that sets them ahead of us. Their level of spiritual advancement is the main factor and there is a lot more to it too like genes. If you had done the meditations on the JoS for like two years consistently and gained some minimal advancement, then you would understand what we're talking about here considering that these beings have been practicing spirituality for a ridiculously huge amount of time.

'Infinite, pure and eternal' are just words you throw around and do not even understand. I mean, you might as well say that in a church full of ignorant people who will agree with you because it 'feels right' and they can feel Jesus or something. What purity are you talking about? As for infinite and eternal, that would be the aether, which lacks will and is easily harnessed by anyone with sufficient spiritual capability. Out of it comes all existence and by natural means, life which slowly evolves spiritually and physically (organic evolution). Some life forms eventually develop intelligence and move along an upward path of evolution to where they are existing at a much higher level than others and some of these life forms can rightfully be called Gods. Obstacles that impede other life forms, the Gods have far surpassed these like death, being subject to Astrological forces, limited consciousness and so much more. All aspects of their existence are far superior and as has been mentioned before, we can barely understand it.

Salem was on drugs at the time. He was deluded when he said that Satan told him that, because he also mentioned that Satan told him that they were equals. Literally even the other Gods listed on the JoS are not equal to Satan but some traitor on meth is now equal to Satan to where he is given a pass not to call Him God. Sounds legit, doesn't it? For ancient texts, symbolic language was common. This tradition also became more significant as the jews and brainwashed Gentiles were on a rampage destroying spiritual texts so it was necessary to avoid blatant language and use code words like 'God' to mean the self, the chakras and so on. Even the jews use symbolic language in their writings to hide the fact that they are occult and based on cursing Gentiles. An example is the war in heaven described in Jude which describes the fall of the kundalini due to the enemy. This doesn't take away from the Magnum Opus and that Gentiles can become Gods by completing it. And what Maxine meant by 'godlike' abilities is just an adjective and I can assure you she wasn't thinking what you are.

Yes Satan is a God but you would only get an idea of why if you experienced even basic level advancement. Keep making up your fake arguments of why He is not a God. What next, should he also turn the sky yellow and bring superman into existence? Get off the fake spirituality you're on because it just tells you fake statements meant to cloud your judgement and make it impossible for you to actually have a chance at being a God. I could buy you the best smart phone on the planet and you'd start arguing how it can't make a call to someone living on another galaxy so you don't want it and it's not a real phone. Or you could tell us how water is not water unless it can dissolve steel. This is similar to what you are doing here, creating a fake non-existent idea of a God (more like following the xian one) and projecting it on real Gods to discredit them. The definition of God you subscribe to is jewish bullshit meant to do exactly what it's doing to you. It is as fake as Marvel comic characters.

I should also mention that respect, reverence and adoration for Satan comes naturally to those who know Him by heart and love Him. He never asks for it from His people anywhere. Both Gods and those who have not ascended all love and respect him so much. I would tell you the truth that powerful as He is, Satan and even other Gods are also still advancing and becoming better but your brainwashed mind would probably tell you that He isn't a God if he is advancing. Life is based on advancing and becoming better. There is a level of advancement you can get to and be called a God rightfully.
 
VoiceofEnki said:
Caster said:
VoiceofEnki said:
There is an attitude Caster came with that reeks of disrespect for Satan, even going as far as calling Him a sky daddy. That and also how well he knows the JoS, including old writings of Salem Burke. I have very low tolerance with people who disrespect Satan so I may have gone a bit overboard in my reply to him.

Anyway, in case he is not trolling he definitely has a huge chance of advancing.
 
Blackdragon666 said:
I have very low tolerance with people who disrespect Satan...

Same, don’t worry, I think it’s good how you reacted.
 
Caster said:
Shut up, who told you he is stronger than me.you better watch the way you talk to people. You don't know the meter of persons strength so don't just assume.

You lack basic understanding, of course you are way weaker than him.
 
Caster said:
NinRick said:
Caster said:
Shut up, who told you he is stronger than me.you better watch the way you talk to people. You don't know the meter of persons strength so don't just assume.

You lack basic understanding, of course you are way weaker than him.
From your explanation it seems that it is your words which is of a Jewish false God,you said "Satan is within us all" of course he is not in us all, he is a physical being just like you and me, he is not some omnipresent force that is in every man. then you say "he knows what happening at all times", that sounds like how the Jewish God watches us at all times and knows everythung we are doing. And what do you mean by he can solve problems with the speed of light, no being can solve problems within the speed of light no matter how powerful they are or else we would have been out of this situation on earth a long time ago. And Satan is not the highest God either. Realistically as I have said he is a godlike being, an ascended master not a God, and in this universe of infinite lifeforms there are other beings that are more powerful than him even if you may not accept that. When you want to debunk someone first make sure that you are well informed.
I am only justifying the problem with deifying extraterrestrials beings as Gods, they may be teachers and guides to us,teaching us what we need to know but they are not our Gods take it or leave it.

And If you think not calling another entity a God makes me weaker you are simply still a child and should grow up.

He is omnipresent, this shows you have no clue to what he is capable of. He perceives everything, all the time, everywhere and all of it simultaneously, he can act faster than the speed of light.

If you have problems, you can solve them instantly. He did it for me already.

I am speaking of experience here, also in the Al Jilwah Satan states : „there is no place in the universe that doesn’t know my presence.“

As we enter Satan‘s Family we become a part of him so to speak. He is omnipresent, he knows your past, present and future, he knows everything you think, you heart and intentions.

Even you can connect to people, and if you are open enough, you can tell how they are feeling, they feel good you feel good, they feel bad you feel bad, you can also detect in which direction their position is relative to yours. This is comparable weak person, Satan is MUCH STRONGER THAN THAT! MUCH MUCH STRONGER, UNBELIEVABLE STRONG!

Just this shows that you are very new, and have little experience.

Satan is the highest God and Lifeform of THIS WORLD!
This world is FINITE!
However, there is an INFINITE ARRAY OF OTHER WORLDS!

So it might be that someone there is actually stronger, maybe.

Maybe this is the reason why Satan has created us, as we can become very powerful warriors. I will live up to that, and do anything for Satan, no matter what.

Strength needs understanding, and from strength there comes understanding, which in turn helps you to become stronger.

Understanding is very important in this path.
 
Caster said:
NinRick said:
Strength needs understanding, and from strength there comes understanding
Yes and you are the one who lack basic understanding, saying that satan is omnipresent, the al jilwah "there is not place that knows not my presence" was referring to the "chi" which is everywhere and in everything. I thought you even new better, this shows you have little experience and know little about him. You are still stuck in the Jewish explanation of God. You are the one who's way weaker than voiceofEnki not me.

Yes I am weaker than VoiceOfEnki, but you as well.
The difference is I am able ti be honest ans face the truth.
 
Caster said:
NinRick said:
Strength needs understanding, and from strength there comes understanding
Yes and you are the one who lack basic understanding, saying that satan is omnipresent, the al jilwah "there is not place that knows not my presence" was referring to the "chi" which is everywhere and in everything. I thought you even new better, this shows you have little experience and know little about him. You are still stuck in the Jewish explanation of God. You are the one who's way weaker than voiceofEnki not me.

Okay let me explain it this way.

You know, Satan is the highest God of all, and the Emperor of this World.. HE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT AND BUSIEST BEING IN THIS WORLD!

Do we agree on that? Good!

Now, Satan is able to multitask hardcore and perceive ALL of us, when we for example talk to him. His physical Body is also busy with other material tasks, and yet, he can appear to MANY people at the same time, and tell them different things.

Do we still agree on that? Good!

Now when you meditate you can put your attention to one space, that is far away. Now, when Satan is able to do that, and also able to multitask hardcore, he can also „be“ everywhere with his attention at all times.

This is probably not how it works tho, but it is just to explain you one possible way.

I can not fathom how Satan is able to do that. But he is indeed able to pull that off, 24/7 all 365 days a year.
 
Caster said:
NinRick said:
Strength needs understanding, and from strength there comes understanding
Yes and you are the one who lack basic understanding, saying that satan is omnipresent, the al jilwah "there is not place that knows not my presence" was referring to the "chi" which is everywhere and in everything. I thought you even new better, this shows you have little experience and know little about him. You are still stuck in the Jewish explanation of God. You are the one who's way weaker than voiceofEnki not me.

And dude don’t try to teach me something, my experience has already taught me that.
 
Caster said:
NinRick said:
Strength needs understanding, and from strength there comes understanding
Yes and you are the one who lack basic understanding, saying that satan is omnipresent, the al jilwah "there is not place that knows not my presence" was referring to the "chi" which is everywhere and in everything. I thought you even new better, this shows you have little experience and know little about him. You are still stuck in the Jewish explanation of God. You are the one who's way weaker than voiceofEnki not me.

Also a small tip from me. It is counter-productive to think you are stronger than you actually are.
It is important to be open, and also to have solid base, so you have to master the basics.
Take your time with this, as you are building on top of that, and it will stay with you forever.

Also, Hierarchy is real and important. It is better for you individually, when you detect stronger people and admit that they are stronger than you - then they can teach you and you can learn from them! This helps you tremendously in your own advancement. You will advance faster!
Trust me, if other people like our HP HoodedCobra to have real HighPriests for guidance - oh hell, they would GLADLY accept their guidance, HPHC is very strong right now, but if HPHC HAD A HP LIKE HIM WHEN HE WAS NEW, HE WOULD BE MUCH STRONGER RIGHT NOW!

We have the privilege to learn from our HighPriest, and all information is readily available, on a silver plate.
Don’t take this for granted, as this is not.
Other people have worked HARD for that, mainly HPS Maxine and HPHoodedCobra.

Also don’t harm your relationship with stronger people like VoiceOfEnki, as he won’t help you if he doesn’t like you - he is obligated to help you, he does that because he is a nice person. Nobody is forcing him.
 
Caster said:
I understand what you are saying but don't follow that, I don't support the idea of deifying other people, you may think Satan is a God but I will use the term he is godlike. Satan is powerful, benevolent and on a much higher level of evolution to humans, and he wants to help humans ascend, but is he our God. Probably not. Am not going to keep arguing about what the word God means because to me God can mean many things, it can be the soul, the forces of nature, the universe, or the pure creative force from which all existence and consciousness is born. People say this is the aether but I think the aether is just energy and is not the source of all creation, I think there are much higher force that are higher than the aether. Am not trying to discredit you, you just seem to call other people your God but I do not.because these Gods are people as well, I do not have any God. I am advancing to godhead and I do not believe any extraterrestrial or human to be my God even if they are very powerful. I don't take them as Gods.
Finish.
You're trying to lecture VoiceofEnki of all people...
Listen dude you can have your opinion, but we have facts. Don't think you can come here and tell us Satan is not a God, you're a nobody to say such a thing. This is not a place of opinions, but of facts, keep that in your mind next time you think you can lecture SS who are here and have had more experiences than you did.
 
Caster said:
Lastly I follow Satan as well because I follow what is good and light, but I do not worship him as a God or see him as my creator God, to me he's just a being with advance power and I do not deify him as some highest God in the universe.

This answer goes for both you and ninRick

I see so you follow Satan as long as you gain personal benefit from it. Thus you are not ready to do everything for Satan at all costs, no matter what.
This means also, that if it benefits you, you would leave Satan.

In this world there is no „good“ and „bad“.
For the jews we are bad, as we return their curses and destroy their spiritual foundation.
For us the jews are evil, as they want to destroy the white race and enslave humanity.

There is no „good“ and „bad“. This is only perspective. You have to choose a side. And then it is either do or die.
 
Caster said:
Your blabbering nonsense makes you look even more stupid, you don't realize your not as experienced as you think, heirachy dose not equal deification fool, you have this deluded reasoning that because something is superior to us we should take it as God. A really primitive form of reasoning even though you think you are advanced, the reptilians are in shut real beings, so you are deceiving yourself, and because Satan is higher than me dosnt mean I will take him as my God, I know for sure he is not my God even though he may be different other things, the idea of deification does not appeal to me. You can be as powerful as you want but you can not be my God that is it. So you can keep ramble your primitive reasonings of extraterrestrial deification. I can respect beings that are superior to me and are benevolent, but I do not deify them as my Gods or call them my Gods simple child.

Secondly your quote on braman is even worst than the first one.because braman is an energy consciousness and not No Thing. Braman does not have anything to do with the second death of the soul, he helps in the advancement of the soul to godhead, which is why the godhead in the east is know as the bramans loka, and the part to raise the kundalini is clearly written in the "Brahman vidya". As stupid as your explanation is you still try to call me a fool when you are the big fool

Lastly I follow Satan as well because I follow what is good and light, but I do not worship him as a God or see him as my creator God, to me he's just a being with advance power and I do not deify him as some highest God in the universe.

This answer goes for both you and ninRick

Pfft hahaha. You’re here on the JoS telling other people to read its content while you continue to think Father Satan isn’t the Creator God of humanity? You’re a joke.

Father does not want slavish worship. But regardless, if you don’t consider him your Creator and a deity, how can you follow him when you reject one very key thing about his existence?

Our High Priests are superior to us, do we call them Gods because they are superior? No, they are High Priests, they have not yet reached the level of advancement to become deified yet. You should read HP HoodedCobra’s recent post about spiritual rank among our Gods.

Why am I even trying to reason with you? I’ve not seen anyone around here before argue so strongly that Father Satan is not their Creator.
 
Aren't you the one deifying a force into what you call "God"?

Can you further explain by what you mean when you say "God"? Is it aware of itself? Does it have a name? Is it a force or a being?
 
tabby said:
Caster said:
Your blabbering nonsense makes you look even more stupid, you don't realize your not as experienced as you think, heirachy dose not equal deification fool, you have this deluded reasoning that because something is superior to us we should take it as God. A really primitive form of reasoning even though you think you are advanced, the reptilians are in shut real beings, so you are deceiving yourself, and because Satan is higher than me dosnt mean I will take him as my God, I know for sure he is not my God even though he may be different other things, the idea of deification does not appeal to me. You can be as powerful as you want but you can not be my God that is it. So you can keep ramble your primitive reasonings of extraterrestrial deification. I can respect beings that are superior to me and are benevolent, but I do not deify them as my Gods or call them my Gods simple child.

Secondly your quote on braman is even worst than the first one.because braman is an energy consciousness and not No Thing. Braman does not have anything to do with the second death of the soul, he helps in the advancement of the soul to godhead, which is why the godhead in the east is know as the bramans loka, and the part to raise the kundalini is clearly written in the "Brahman vidya". As stupid as your explanation is you still try to call me a fool when you are the big fool

Lastly I follow Satan as well because I follow what is good and light, but I do not worship him as a God or see him as my creator God, to me he's just a being with advance power and I do not deify him as some highest God in the universe.

This answer goes for both you and ninRick

Pfft hahaha. You’re here on the JoS telling other people to read its content while you continue to think Father Satan isn’t the Creator God of humanity? You’re a joke.

Father does not want slavish worship. But regardless, if you don’t consider him your Creator and a deity, how can you follow him when you reject one very key thing about his existence?

Our High Priests are superior to us, do we call them Gods because they are superior? No, they are High Priests, they have not yet reached the level of advancement to become deified yet. You should read HP HoodedCobra’s recent post about spiritual rank among our Gods.

Why am I even trying to reason with you? I’ve not seen anyone around here before argue so strongly that Father Satan is not their Creator.

Yeah I have also no clue why I tried to argue with him.

All I read was: "Please punch me NinRick! Punch me!"
 
Caster said:
An just to give one last example so your more primitive brain can understand, since you like the idea of having a space daddy or a space God.
To end this let's say we humans manage to achieve some level of advancement and we build a spaceship for intergalactic travel, let's say we go to a planet that is similar to earth, were majority of the people are primitive, don't respect each other and are lost and there is always war and death, if we" the more civilized people go there with our technology and offer to teach them civilization and give some amount of spiritual information some of those people will call us gods, they will worship us. That is same how most humans do to E.Ts, I have heard some stories were extraterrestrials refused to get much involved with earth humans because they dont want humans to look up to them as Gods.

Of course it is people like you that will think like that but people like me know better, the idea of a space daddy dosnt apply to me, you can fuck off right now if you think am going to listen to your lower sense of reasoning.


Why Hello there, perhaps I can help. What is it you are trying to understand? There is a being that Created us Gentiles, our bodies and Souls, he has protected us for millennia and has guided us this life to becoming a God. God means supreme minded one, and in religious texts refers to a higher force that created us, It would seem he falls under both these definitions.

Why would there be an issue in bringing Honor to said person as a God for all he has done for us?
 
Blackdragon666 said:
There is an attitude Caster came with that reeks of disrespect for Satan, even going as far as calling Him a sky daddy. That and also how well he knows the JoS, including old writings of Salem Burke. I have very low tolerance with people who disrespect Satan so I may have gone a bit overboard in my reply to him.

Anyway, in case he is not trolling he definitely has a huge chance of advancing.

I don’t believe you went overboard at all Brother, what you said was very similar to my first few replies here. I also despise any disrespect to Satan and our Gods, and have low tolerance for that.

The only reason I went back to the topic and gave him that courtesy is because of the recent discussion we had on tolerance towards ignorant individuals or people coming here from other corners of the internet where the kind of speech he employed is commonplace.

I had my reservations about him obviously, but to cover all angles, I felt I should give some courtesy in case he is someone who can still learn and not some infiltrator as he appeared to be.

However, from the replies this disgusting thing had the audacity to make afterwards, my courtesy was wasted on them, as usually is the case when we do decide to give sorts like these any of it.

However for the sake of professionalism, it is good to continue doing so anyway, even if it is wasted on the person, because we do have a standard to uphold as Spiritual Satanists. With this I don’t mean we should blindly tolerate disrespect or subversion, or close our eyes to it in any way, but to give a small courtesy out of the benefit of the doubt.

If after that they continue their rampant behavior and sowing of disrespect, we have the moral high ground on all levels to kick them down the stairs and trample them underfoot, for those who attempt to shit on Satan’s temple deserve every bit of suffering and our wrath.

Not everyone has to go out of their way to give any courtesy however, some people in the community are better at this than others, we have our roles to play here, and we should each do what we are best at in our contribution to the forum.

Your explanations and setting straight of things is beneficial to everyone, and I never feel that you go overboard in any reply to others.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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