Is Jehovah Satan?

[Gamoray666]

Before y'all get mad, please understand I'm just stunned at what I found and want to know what you guys think in an open minded discussion.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7lyqv9/jehovah_is_satan_irrefutable_biblical_proof/

2 Samuel 24:1

Again the anger of Yahweh was kindled against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, “Go, count the people of Israel and Judah.”

1 Chronicles 21:1

Satan stood up against Israel, and incited David to count the people of Israel.

This one below got me thinking,

Isaiah 45:7

JW version: I form light and create darkness,l make peace and create calamity; I, Jehovah, am doing all these things.

King James:

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Satan wrote in his black book that he causes happiness and misery.

What do you guys think? Thanks!

 

[Siatris Ioholo]

Before y'all get mad, please understand I'm just stunned at what I found and want to know what you guys think in an open minded discussion.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7lyqv9/jehovah_is_satan_irrefutable_biblical_proof/

2 Samuel 24:1

Again the anger of Yahweh was kindled against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, “Go, count the people of Israel and Judah.”

1 Chronicles 21:1

Satan stood up against Israel, and incited David to count the people of Israel.

This one below got me thinking,

Isaiah 45:7

JW version: I form light and create darkness,l make peace and create calamity; I, Jehovah, am doing all these things.

King James:

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Satan wrote in his black book that he causes happiness and misery.

What do you guys think? Thanks!

No. Satan is Satan. YHVH is a thought form.

 

[Kurat]

Didn't read

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

Didn't read

Kurat always deals with trolls the best way

 

[Gamoray666]

Didn't read

Kurat always deals with trolls the best way

Am I trolling? No. I want clarity.

 

[Serbon]

Before y'all get mad, please understand I'm just stunned at what I found and want to know what you guys think in an open minded discussion.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7lyqv9/jehovah_is_satan_irrefutable_biblical_proof/

2 Samuel 24:1

Again the anger of Yahweh was kindled against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, “Go, count the people of Israel and Judah.”

1 Chronicles 21:1

Satan stood up against Israel, and incited David to count the people of Israel.

This one below got me thinking,

Isaiah 45:7

JW version: I form light and create darkness,l make peace and create calamity; I, Jehovah, am doing all these things.

King James:

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Satan wrote in his black book that he causes happiness and misery.

What do you guys think? Thanks!

Ive said this before aswell

You people must understand that bible is a book of confusion, literally.
Its full of both errors and contradictions, so dont worry about it, dont allow them to confuse you

 

[Henu the Great]

Didn't read

Kurat always deals with trolls the best way

Am I trolling? No. I want clarity.

Then you should study JoS, the sermons, and meditate every day. Reddit is not a good source for clarity.

 

[Head Guardian Blitzkreig]

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Maybe you would become confused if you focused on just these quotes specifically, but what about the entirety of the Bible or Torah compared to the Al-Jiwah? This shows Yahweh and Satan acting in completely different ways. The entire philosophy behind both entities, in general, and in regards to humans, is completely opposite.

I shouldn't need to mention that it would not make sense to read what the enemy says about Satan, because they will just lie. Looking at what both do for us, Satan/Lucifer means Truth or Lightbringer, because he brings knowledge to us. Meanwhile, Jesus "healed", but never once taught anyone how to do it themselves.

I would not get so wrapped up in your head about these things. Focus on what you know works, which is doing your meditations and doing Ritual's. Do you have any hangups or questions about those things, while we are discussing this?

 

[Gamoray666]

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Maybe you would become confused if you focused on just these quotes specifically, but what about the entirety of the Bible or Torah compared to the Al-Jiwah? This shows Yahweh and Satan acting in completely different ways. The entire philosophy behind both entities, in general, and in regards to humans, is completely opposite.

I shouldn't need to mention that it would not make sense to read what the enemy says about Satan, because they will just lie. Looking at what both do for us, Satan/Lucifer means Truth or Lightbringer, because he brings knowledge to us. Meanwhile, Jesus "healed", but never once taught anyone how to do it themselves.

I would not get so wrapped up in your head about these things. Focus on what you know works, which is doing your meditations and doing Ritual's. Do you have any hangups or questions about those things, while we are discussing this?

Yes, I find it confusing how similar the writings are where Jehovah says he causes peace and misery and Satan wrote in his book that he causes happiness and misery. I think this being explained would clear my conscience completely but idk.

 

[Gamoray666]

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Maybe you would become confused if you focused on just these quotes specifically, but what about the entirety of the Bible or Torah compared to the Al-Jiwah? This shows Yahweh and Satan acting in completely different ways. The entire philosophy behind both entities, in general, and in regards to humans, is completely opposite.

I shouldn't need to mention that it would not make sense to read what the enemy says about Satan, because they will just lie. Looking at what both do for us, Satan/Lucifer means Truth or Lightbringer, because he brings knowledge to us. Meanwhile, Jesus "healed", but never once taught anyone how to do it themselves.

I would not get so wrapped up in your head about these things. Focus on what you know works, which is doing your meditations and doing Ritual's. Do you have any hangups or questions about those things, while we are discussing this?

Not sure if my first reply to you will come through, but I spent time pondering and I'm guessing back when Satan was on Earth they had more knowledge of Satan than the black book does today, so I'm guessing they plagiarised. Also I found out Jehovah means 'Evil God' or something similar in Hebrew while Satan means 'enemy/adversary'.

 

[darkmonkey666]

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Maybe you would become confused if you focused on just these quotes specifically, but what about the entirety of the Bible or Torah compared to the Al-Jiwah? This shows Yahweh and Satan acting in completely different ways. The entire philosophy behind both entities, in general, and in regards to humans, is completely opposite.

I shouldn't need to mention that it would not make sense to read what the enemy says about Satan, because they will just lie. Looking at what both do for us, Satan/Lucifer means Truth or Lightbringer, because he brings knowledge to us. Meanwhile, Jesus "healed", but never once taught anyone how to do it themselves.

I would not get so wrapped up in your head about these things. Focus on what you know works, which is doing your meditations and doing Ritual's. Do you have any hangups or questions about those things, while we are discussing this?

Not sure if my first reply to you will come through, but I spent time pondering and I'm guessing back when Satan was on Earth they had more knowledge of Satan than the black book does today, so I'm guessing they plagiarised. Also I found out Jehovah means 'Evil God' or something similar in Hebrew while Satan means 'enemy/adversary'.

Why are you trying to get the truth from enemy sources to begin with. Your not really going too. A bunch of it is written to confuse. There were a bunch of people that believed Jehovah and Satan is the same being or Jehovah is Satan I know on various places but why does it matter.

Why not read our site and learn the truth. How about stop believing something and find out the truth for yourself through meditation

 

[darkmonkey666]

This whole thing in itself shows they can't even keep their story straight so many people "believe" all kinds of different and conflicting things. People are not supposed to just believe stuff they are supposed to go for truth.

 

[Gamoray666]

Maybe you would become confused if you focused on just these quotes specifically, but what about the entirety of the Bible or Torah compared to the Al-Jiwah? This shows Yahweh and Satan acting in completely different ways. The entire philosophy behind both entities, in general, and in regards to humans, is completely opposite.

I shouldn't need to mention that it would not make sense to read what the enemy says about Satan, because they will just lie. Looking at what both do for us, Satan/Lucifer means Truth or Lightbringer, because he brings knowledge to us. Meanwhile, Jesus "healed", but never once taught anyone how to do it themselves.

I would not get so wrapped up in your head about these things. Focus on what you know works, which is doing your meditations and doing Ritual's. Do you have any hangups or questions about those things, while we are discussing this?

Not sure if my first reply to you will come through, but I spent time pondering and I'm guessing back when Satan was on Earth they had more knowledge of Satan than the black book does today, so I'm guessing they plagiarised. Also I found out Jehovah means 'Evil God' or something similar in Hebrew while Satan means 'enemy/adversary'.

Why are you trying to get the truth from enemy sources to begin with. Your not really going too. A bunch of it is written to confuse. There were a bunch of people that believed Jehovah and Satan is the same being or Jehovah is Satan I know on various places but why does it matter.

Why not read our site and learn the truth. How about stop believing something and find out the truth for yourself through meditation

That's a good idea, through meditation. I already read the JoS multiple times, it's just that from enemy attacks I began questioning a lot and came across this.

 

[Head Guardian Blitzkreig]

Yes, I find it confusing how similar the writings are where Jehovah says he causes peace and misery and Satan wrote in his book that he causes happiness and misery. I think this being explained would clear my conscience completely but idk.

Both entities are just simply saying they do both. Just like us, we destroy bad things and create good things. Taken as is, this is just a broad statement describing their abilities.

Satan also says "If anyone obey me and conform to my commandments, he shall have joy, delight, and comfort... I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means...All treasures and hidden things are known to me; and as I desire, I take them from one and bestow them upon another."

So you can see this is in regards to managing his kingdom, not inflicting pain onto some helpless person.

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As far as enemy curses or thoughts. Make sure your AOP is strong and you are cleaning your aura after the Ritual's. The easy version is to raise some energy, then program it to clean any hebrew curses from your soul, then wipe it through your whole soul.

It is also worth keeping in mind, especially during times of heavy enemy activity, that you may feel weird thoughts about yourself or the Gods. These thoughts are meaningless, and you must merely remind yourself what Satan does for you, versus what Christianity has done to the world. We can see this clearly: Ancient civilization vs Modern civilization; paradise versus borged communism.

 

[Gamoray666]

Yes, I find it confusing how similar the writings are where Jehovah says he causes peace and misery and Satan wrote in his book that he causes happiness and misery. I think this being explained would clear my conscience completely but idk.

Both entities are just simply saying they do both. Just like us, we destroy bad things and create good things. Taken as is, this is just a broad statement describing their abilities.

Satan also says "If anyone obey me and conform to my commandments, he shall have joy, delight, and comfort... I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means...All treasures and hidden things are known to me; and as I desire, I take them from one and bestow them upon another."

So you can see this is in regards to managing his kingdom, not inflicting pain onto some helpless person.

---------------

As far as enemy curses or thoughts. Make sure your AOP is strong and you are cleaning your aura after the Ritual's. The easy version is to raise some energy, then program it to clean any hebrew curses from your soul, then wipe it through your whole soul.

It is also worth keeping in mind, especially during times of heavy enemy activity, that you may feel weird thoughts about yourself or the Gods. These thoughts are meaningless, and you must merely remind yourself what Satan does for you, versus what Christianity has done to the world. We can see this clearly: Ancient civilization vs Modern civilization; paradise versus borged communism.

Thank you!

 

[SyrArisMarsMartin]

jehovah is Shit

 

[Gamoray666]

jehovah is Shit

Agreed.

 

[NinRick]

Am I the only one who views this as blasphemy on the highest level? It makes me furious.
Can a mod consider deleting this please?
We do not need to allow EVERYTHING to be posted here. It is even against the forum rules, rule 3. „blasphemy will NOT be tolerated“.

Please a mod take this down.