Important question concerning astorlogy.

[Tom1]

What i have found out that current 12 zodiac signs are outdated. They were correct 2000 years ago but since then earth has wobbled few degrees.

For example true days when sun shines in front of saggitarius stars right now are DECEMBER 18 - JANUARY 18

More of that, theres 13 sign called OPHIUCHUS ( which from greek is called serpent-bearer ) which i happen to be born in.I happend to find that just few days after my first kundalini experience. Coincidence ?

I lunched a sky simulator and found it all.

Please share your thoughts about that.

 

[Andre Wilson]

I looked into 13 sign astrology, briefly, and found the name walter Berg. BERG.
 so I didn't really care. I don't understand enough about conventional astrology yet to care.

 

To: [email protected]
From: topsik85@...
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 19:18:42 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Important question concerning astorlogy.

  What i have found out that current 12 zodiac signs are outdated. They were correct 2000 years ago but since then earth has wobbled few degrees.

For example true days when sun shines in front of saggitarius stars right now are DECEMBER 18 - JANUARY 18

More of that, theres 13 sign called OPHIUCHUS ( which from greek is called serpent-bearer ) which i happen to be born in.I happend to find that just few days after my first kundalini experience. Coincidence ?

I lunched a sky simulator and found it all.

Please share your thoughts about that.


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[chalchiuhnenetzin]

I was told a long time ago (in the 1980's to be exact) by one of the "Aztec" gods about the dates now being off because of the earth's movements over about two millennia. It made perfect sense, even to me, who, when advanced mathematical aptitude was handed out was definitely hiding behind the sofa!

If I was told about the "Serpent Bearer" I've forgotten -- it was a while ago! ;-) I'm not really into astrology, as far as learning it in depth is concerned, because it requires years and years of dedicated study to get it right, so I rely on experts such as Maxine who know what they're doing.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Tom" <topsik85@... wrote:

What i have found out that current 12 zodiac signs are outdated. They were correct 2000 years ago but since then earth has wobbled few degrees.

For example true days when sun shines in front of saggitarius stars right now are DECEMBER 18 - JANUARY 18

More of that, theres 13 sign called OPHIUCHUS ( which from greek is called serpent-bearer ) which i happen to be born in.I happend to find that just few days after my first kundalini experience. Coincidence ?

I lunched a sky simulator and found it all.

Please share your thoughts about that.

 

[Tom1]

I did not use any refference to jews , i just wachted a sky and used the work of ptolemy ( roman citizen of egypt ) as a refference.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Andre Wilson <darthxilon@... wrote:


I looked into 13 sign astrology, briefly, and found the name walter Berg. BERG.
so I didn't really care. I don't understand enough about conventional astrology yet to care.




To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: topsik85@...
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 19:18:42 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Important question concerning astorlogy.






What i have found out that current 12 zodiac signs are outdated. They were correct 2000 years ago but since then earth has wobbled few degrees.

For example true days when sun shines in front of saggitarius stars right now are DECEMBER 18 - JANUARY 18

More of that, theres 13 sign called OPHIUCHUS ( which from greek is called serpent-bearer ) which i happen to be born in.I happend to find that just few days after my first kundalini experience. Coincidence ?

I lunched a sky simulator and found it all.

Please share your thoughts about that.

 

[justin baldridge]

Tom,Which sky sim do you use?
HSJustin

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Tom <topsik85@... wrote:

  What i have found out that current 12 zodiac signs are outdated. They were correct 2000 years ago but since then earth has wobbled few degrees.

For example true days when sun shines in front of saggitarius stars right now are DECEMBER 18 - JANUARY 18

More of that, theres 13 sign called OPHIUCHUS ( which from greek is called serpent-bearer ) which i happen to be born in.I happend to find that just few days after my first kundalini experience. Coincidence ?

I lunched a sky simulator and found it all.

Please share your thoughts about that.

 

[Tom1]

Microsoft worldwide telescope.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], justin baldridge <vercilles@... wrote:

Tom,
Which sky sim do you use?

HS
Justin

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Tom <topsik85@... wrote:



What i have found out that current 12 zodiac signs are outdated. They were
correct 2000 years ago but since then earth has wobbled few degrees.

For example true days when sun shines in front of saggitarius stars right
now are DECEMBER 18 - JANUARY 18

More of that, theres 13 sign called OPHIUCHUS ( which from greek is called
serpent-bearer ) which i happen to be born in.I happend to find that just
few days after my first kundalini experience. Coincidence ?

I lunched a sky simulator and found it all.

Please share your thoughts about that.

 

[Kenny Lane]

<td val[/IMG]I remember hearing something about this as well; although for some reason everyone I meet who's born under any specific sun sign always has the characteristics associated with that sign. So even though like you said Sagitarius is now between December 18th and January 18th according to modern science most people born between December 22nd and January 19th still have the characteristics of a Capricorn. By the way I was told by another JOS member that moon signs are much more powerful than sun signs. For intance even though I'm a Capricorn my moon is Scorpio, so according to what I was told I'm more of a Scorpio than a Capricorn.

--- On Wed, 12/22/10, chalchiuhnenetzin <jaguarcat2002@... wrote:

From: chalchiuhnenetzin <jaguarcat2002@...
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Important question concerning astorlogy.
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 12:37 AM

  I was told a long time ago (in the 1980's to be exact) by one of the "Aztec" gods about the dates now being off because of the earth's movements over about two millennia. It made perfect sense, even to me, who, when advanced mathematical aptitude was handed out was definitely hiding behind the sofa!

If I was told about the "Serpent Bearer" I've forgotten -- it was a while ago! ;-) I'm not really into astrology, as far as learning it in depth is concerned, because it requires years and years of dedicated study to get it right, so I rely on experts such as Maxine who know what they're doing.

--- In [[email protected]][email protected][/email], "Tom" <topsik85@... wrote:

What i have found out that current 12 zodiac signs are outdated. They were correct 2000 years ago but since then earth has wobbled few degrees.

For example true days when sun shines in front of saggitarius stars right now are DECEMBER 18 - JANUARY 18

More of that, theres 13 sign called OPHIUCHUS ( which from greek is called serpent-bearer ) which i happen to be born in.I happend to find that just few days after my first kundalini experience. Coincidence ?

I lunched a sky simulator and found it all.

Please share your thoughts about that.

[/TD]

 

[Tom1]

Of course moon is importent as well , but the change in the position of stars is for all planets not only sun , unless of course there some mechanism i am not aware of that makes this earth wobbling doesnt matter.

But i would rather belive what is in our sky than some afritificial division by industry that mostly cares for profit not the truth.

Earth changes its position , so do the stars in the sky and so does energy , i cant see how it can be irrelevant.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Kenny Lane <kenny.lane@... wrote:

I remember hearing something about this as well; although for some reason everyone I meet who's born under any specific sun sign always has the characteristics associated with that sign. So even though like you said Sagitarius is now between December 18th and January 18th according to modern science most people born between December 22nd and January 19th still have the characteristics of a Capricorn. By the way I was told by another JOS member that moon signs are much more powerful than sun signs. For intance even though I'm a Capricorn my moon is Scorpio, so according to what I was told I'm more of a Scorpio than a Capricorn.

--- On Wed, 12/22/10, chalchiuhnenetzin <jaguarcat2002@... wrote:


From: chalchiuhnenetzin <jaguarcat2002@...
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Important question concerning astorlogy.
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 12:37 AM


 



I was told a long time ago (in the 1980's to be exact) by one of the "Aztec" gods about the dates now being off because of the earth's movements over about two millennia. It made perfect sense, even to me, who, when advanced mathematical aptitude was handed out was definitely hiding behind the sofa!

If I was told about the "Serpent Bearer" I've forgotten -- it was a while ago! ;-) I'm not really into astrology, as far as learning it in depth is concerned, because it requires years and years of dedicated study to get it right, so I rely on experts such as Maxine who know what they're doing.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Tom" <topsik85@ wrote:

What i have found out that current 12 zodiac signs are outdated. They were correct 2000 years ago but since then earth has wobbled few degrees.

For example true days when sun shines in front of saggitarius stars right now are DECEMBER 18 - JANUARY 18

More of that, theres 13 sign called OPHIUCHUS ( which from greek is called serpent-bearer ) which i happen to be born in.I happend to find that just few days after my first kundalini experience. Coincidence ?

I lunched a sky simulator and found it all.

Please share your thoughts about that.

 

[Angelo Giancana]

It is irrelevant to some extent.  Man is born on a certain day in a certain location, which means he is born under certain stars or what we think of as Astrological correspondences.  When he is born in those positions, think of it as being born under certain star alignments, and it takes time for light to travel.  Time is only relative to the 3rd dimension.  When you go past the 3rd dimension, then you break "time" barriers of where things are not so linear.  But then you may ask... "well light still takes time to travel," but then there are other interesting theories of where space can fold and one can travel via "worm-holes". 

Going back to the previous idea that it takes "time" for light to travel through space, it could be said that past a certain point astrological energies can be seen as irrelevant if you work beyond the time barrier of the astral web.  One could say that the energetic fields surrounding the earth and all planets come into affect, but then one could also utilize the idea that the electro-magnetic field of the earth is actually synonymous with "bending light,"  therefore Light has gravity and is very powerful..... thus a reason why astrological "star light energy" would play a powerful part.



From: Tom <topsik85@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 9:41:50 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Important question concerning astorlogy.

  Of course moon is importent as well , but the change in the position of stars is for all planets not only sun , unless of course there some mechanism i am not aware of that makes this earth wobbling doesnt matter.

But i would rather belive what is in our sky than some afritificial division by industry that mostly cares for profit not the truth.

Earth changes its position , so do the stars in the sky and so does energy , i cant see how it can be irrelevant.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Kenny Lane <kenny.lane@... wrote:

I remember hearing something about this as well; although for some reason everyone I meet who's born under any specific sun sign always has the characteristics associated with that sign. So even though like you said Sagitarius is now between December 18th and January 18th according to modern science most people born between December 22nd and January 19th still have the characteristics of a Capricorn. By the way I was told by another JOS member that moon signs are much more powerful than sun signs. For intance even though I'm a Capricorn my moon is Scorpio, so according to what I was told I'm more of a Scorpio than a Capricorn.

--- On Wed, 12/22/10, chalchiuhnenetzin <jaguarcat2002@... wrote:


From: chalchiuhnenetzin <jaguarcat2002@...
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Important question concerning astorlogy.
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 12:37 AM


 



I was told a long time ago (in the 1980's to be exact) by one of the "Aztec" gods about the dates now being off because of the earth's movements over about two millennia. It made perfect sense, even to me, who, when advanced mathematical aptitude was handed out was definitely hiding behind the sofa!

If I was told about the "Serpent Bearer" I've forgotten -- it was a while ago! ;-) I'm not really into astrology, as far as learning it in depth is concerned, because it requires years and years of dedicated study to get it right, so I rely on experts such as Maxine who know what they're doing.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Tom" <topsik85@ wrote:

What i have found out that current 12 zodiac signs are outdated. They were correct 2000 years ago but since then earth has wobbled few degrees.

For example true days when sun shines in front of saggitarius stars right now are DECEMBER 18 - JANUARY 18

More of that, theres 13 sign called OPHIUCHUS ( which from greek is called serpent-bearer ) which i happen to be born in.I happend to find that just few days after my first kundalini experience. Coincidence ?

I lunched a sky simulator and found it all.

Please share your thoughts about that.