Psychxdeliclove666 said:
There's differences in races, and differences in them, forever more. I think we need to learn to respect that, and see things like moral action instead. If I'm not mistaken, I think this person was criticizing Polish Immigrants for stereotypes such as them doing crime, not working hard, etc., but I think we then need to a moral character in everyone, not just in recent arrivals. A Polish man who works hard and contributes is more worthy of living in Britain than the British person who commits crime or does evil, we need to see past "they're different" as a critical thought, and start asking laterally "so what? Why does this/not matter?"
I don't really get that impression from Sonnenkraft's post as he specifically mentions Brits and Poles being distinct races, which isn't too uncommon a belief. I thought it for awhile as well due to how one can clearly identify a Pole from a Western European. People in real life look at me and know I'm Polish instantly; if they study me a bit further, they'll notice British genes that lend a certain shape to my nose, but my head and skin tone definitely have that Balto-Slavic thing going on.
It's actually kind of inverse from what 13th_Wolf said; Poles are primarily Slavic as the tribe that became the ancestors of the Poles and lent the country its name, the Polans, moved into the area several thousand years ago, speaking the proto-Slavic language that would eventually evolve into Old Polish and distinguishing itself from the Czech and Slovak languages that were developing across the mountains down south. Polish actually still has sounds in its language that other Slavic languages have dropped, which I've seen other Slavs say makes Polish sound both naive and ancient ("Naive" as well as "childish" are fairly common ways that Slavs describe the way other Slavic languages sound to them. The similarities are so strong still that nearly every Slav gets the impression that the other languages sound like someone mispronouncing theirs.). The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, which became quite a large nation in its few centuries of existence, was very multi-ethnic in terms of the various White peoples living there, which included Ruthenians and quite the population of Germanic/Nordic folk. Many of these people intermarried, whereas some just outright adopted the identity of Polish by virtue of living in the Commonwealth, as is the case for a Lithuanian family that I can trace my roots to. Russian genes being added to the mix came in the early 1800s after the Partitions, but this is still primarily found in eastern Poland and former territories stolen by the Soviet Union called the "Kresy."
Regarding moral character, I would agree with this in that it should be the next consideration after racial compatibility. There are certainly Brits who believe in the stereotypes that Poles are lazy and criminal - and they're not entirely wrong when faced with immigrants whose character entails leaving their homeland for money as soon as the opportunity arises, only to return to Poland the second Poland's economy improves and pretend they were hardcore patriots this entire time. Not all Polish immigrants in Britain are this way, naturally. My father is a businessman who has traveled to other countries, and his couple journeys to the UK taught him that there are a good many people in Britain who respect Poles for being hard workers and not fucking up their country like the invaders pretending to be refugees. It is fortunate that several decades under communism has not denigrated Polish culture to such an extent that Poles are a completely criminal, uneducated band of savages.
However, imagine if it had. Racial compatibility between Brits and Poles may still be there, but being brought up in a culture ravaged by communism would contribute even more to ideological conflict and behavioral differences that generate animosity. You see it on some level already, as many Poles left Poland in the first place due to decades of a negative impression of their own country imposed upon them by a communist regime. The economy was in the absolute shitter because lo and behold, communism doesn't bode well for standards of living, GDP and wages. They had grown accustomed to being told "nie ma" when asking for an item at a store, which means they don't have it. Poles became dreary and bitter at their lot in life, and a number of them did resort to criminal activities as a direct consequence of these comorbid factors. The stereotype that Poles are excellent car thieves has some validity as well as its genesis in what communism did to the country. Had Poland not been given up to the Eastern bloc, chances are you wouldn't see Polish immigrants talked about in Western Europe the way they're talked about today. Because it wouldn't have been a horde of several million poor people leaving Poland in a short period of time searching for economic opportunities. It would have been more akin to the immigration to and from Western European countries, with a smaller ratio of these Polish immigrants being willing to turn to crime or take jobs that the natives consider to be lowly.
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