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If Trump is really involved in the Epstein scandal, will his soul be saved?

Watch my mouth or what?

Are the supreme ultimate ultra power rangers too holy for mere mortals to ask about? What the fuck is this shit
It would be greatly appreciated if you could communicate using a civilized language.
Brother Epiphany merely intended to point out the fact, that things have obviously changed a lot in your absence.
Please, refrain from even remotely insulting members, the Guardians, and the Clergy.
 
Your entire perspective and view point on what you think their actions were is from the perspective of the rioting criminals. You are adopting their dishonest and fictional statements on what you think happened in these situations. You keep saying "certain actions by ICE." Well what were those "certain actions?" You mean defending themselves? I'm sure you would be satisfied if these law enforment agents all just lay down instead and allow themselves to be killed. I guess that is what you want, since the act of them simply defending their lives is something that you see as some great terrible crime that was planned and ordered by Trump himself.

You have more sympathy for the subhuman criminals who are literally attempting to murder people than you do for the victims who defend themselves.
I think this is where you misunderstand me. It's about optics and how it affects the mission. The overall effect so far is people being radicalised against ICE. These are people who don't care to consider the circumstances ICE agents have to deal with.

They just get radicalised and are now working to fully subvert the entire thing. They provide logistical assistance to the illegals, alarms for ICE presence and are even arming up for a showdown against ICE if necessary. The whole thing is slowly being sabotaged.
 
Who cares about his soul?

He is just a pawn, he got saved to be president as he was the lesser evil of the 2 options, and that's it.

Pawns will do what they will when times come, and ultimate power over all reality is of the Gods, so there is no reason to fear.

As for the rest, I don't care at all.
 
@Ol argedco luciftias send all your oven emojis, lol. Your arguments remain dumb and far removed from the real world.

Jews literally call Trump the first Jewish president but he is going to save us. And I'm the one with a flawed view on the topic.

I take pride in the fact that any smart person can see who is onto the truth. Yours is dogmatic. You start with the belief that Trump is good and so all you say is just either cope, ignorance or straight up manufactured to defend him. You can't even have a non-biased view that addresses his flaws. Trump is somehow a genius always working against the jews while they very obviously control him. Totally dumb.
Are you not equally dogmatic in the exact same way by beginning with the idea that he is entirely owned and unable to do anything that is not part of a jewish plan? To say that he is an absolute slave so that anything that he ever does is automatically 100% a jewish plan is a perspective that is entirely dogmatic and closed minded. I never said that he is perfect and I never said that I agree with everything that he does. I see him as somebody who is trying to do everything possible to rescue our people, but he is often sand bagged and hindered by jews trying to stop him. I will not root for his failure as he works to save America.

It is like you wanting to stop ICE because you think the conflicts that are inflicted upon them by rioters and violent criminals does not look good. So what? They should stop? They have work to do and they need to expand, they need to go even harder and pick up the pace. I root for their expansion. While you seem to want them to end most of their operations. No, we only have a short time to accomplish this work and there must be as much done as possible.

Also that quote about a pardon for Ghislaine is a response to a question that was asked. All he said is that he is legally capable of doing it. Which is literally true, he can pardon anyone. But he hasn't and he won't so it is a meaningless thing to talk about.
 
I think this is where you misunderstand me. It's about optics and how it affects the mission. The overall effect so far is people being radicalised against ICE. These are people who don't care to consider the circumstances ICE agents have to deal with.

They just get radicalised and are now working to fully subvert the entire thing. They provide logistical assistance to the illegals, alarms for ICE presence and are even arming up for a showdown against ICE if necessary. The whole thing is slowly being sabotaged.
And you are blaming these bad optics on ICE and Border Patrol and even blaming them on Trump himself when none of them are responsible for these problems. You are blaming the victim. They are attacked, they are attempted to be murdered, then you blame them when they defend themselves. You are aware of the structure of what is happening within public consciousness, but you still are getting caught up in it and ending up on the wrong side.

When the entire political and media force of the globalist jews, and their armies of insurgent agents, are using their entire power structure to try to create a false narrative and try to force people to be on the opposing side, you see this happening and you see what is being done, and you still blame the victims instead of blaming the literally Billions of dollars of jewish media all working as hard as possible to spread these lies.

At some point, it does not matter what retarded people will think. They are irrelevant. The necessary work of removing all criminal aliens needs to continue, operations need to expand and multiply enormously more than they currently are. And any violent criminals who try to interfere with this work will be arrested.
 
And by the way, I very much enjoy talking with you about these things. I am not mad, I am just passionate. And the harsh words I use are not intended against you, they are intended against the criminals who are doing evil things. I am always happy for a discussion when people disagree because I hope we will both have things to learn from each other and we both may be improved in the end. And I believe that I am right so I am trying to spread the truth.
 
I've worked with and fought alongside these people for longer than most of you have even been in the struggle.

Questioning my respect for them is absurd.
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I've worked with and fought alongside these people for longer than most of you have even been in the struggle.

Questioning my respect for them is absurd.

So it wouldn't be such an effort to learn about the change for the Guardian system (that was already existing last time you wrote here a year ago) and respect the title that these amazing people gained trought constant presence and effort for the Temple.
 
So it wouldn't be such an effort to learn about the change for the Guardian system (that was already existing last time you wrote here a year ago) and respect the title that these amazing people gained trought constant presence and effort for the Temple.
I respect people's work, I couldn't care less about titles, sorry if that hurts your feelings I guess. People are worthy of respect due to their merits, not their titles. The title alone means literally nothing.

Anyone else want to express their butthurt or can the thread continue?
 
Not true. He is in the Epstein files. He was friends with Epstein at a time Epstein was already raping minors. I fail to understand why everyone keeps turning a blind eye to the obvious.

Imagine believing Netanyahu's greatest ally is somehow a good guy or on our side.

Also, blackmail can only work if it is backed by real damning evidence, not fake accusations. So being blackmailed already proves he has raped children before.

I see the same lenience towards Elon and it irks me. The guy literally wants to borg humanity with his brain chips and hasn't denied the emails of him begging to have the wildest parties at Epstein's island aren't true. He's diverting attention, playing victim and saying he is being misunderstood. The email was sent years after Epstein was convicted and even labelled a high risk sex offender.

We need to stop grovelling for these zogbots. At least they may be doing some good things like the relative free speech on X but the truth is what it is.

Trump isn't some good guy with evil Jews pressuring him to do evil. He has been in bed with the enemy long before he rose to power. He is somehow doing more for Israel than even Joe Biden. This view of Trump as saint with his hands tied by evil Jews is silly and naive.

I mean, after the first term he could have walked away from politics if he was genuinely a good guy and figured jews won't let him do good for his nation and the world. He could have retired. Instead he campaigned hard (with the full funding and support of the Jews) to come back and be the greatest shabbos goy president in history.

The Israeli courts will accuse Netanyahu of something and Trump himself will use his power to defend Netanyahu. That's the level of serving the jews he is at.


I reiterate again that either he is blackmailed or is doing this out of his own will. These are the only two possible explanations. Both are very bad and don't paint the picture of a victim, but someone in bed with the enemy and taking down a nation with him.
Is 666% clear that Trump is not to be trusted, much less a role model for any Zevist, but the other option if the Democrats won was even worse: open borders, mass immigration, and extreme communization of USA.
 
I've worked with and fought alongside these people for longer than most of you have even been in the struggle.

Questioning my respect for them is absurd.
Maybe you were not aware of the developments that took place and reacted in the heat of the moment thinking someone threatened you.
That is understandable however you are still in a Temple Forum brother. Do whatever you please on Discord or other places.

I have been fighting for many years too. What have I learned? Importance of hierarchy and patience among other things.
As an additional query shouldn't it bring you greater happiness that your and the collective effort has enabled this knowledge to reach to the masses? Rather you choose to act this way. Maybe its your way of showing your loyalty but it rubs off as rude and condescending. It should be a matter of pride for the older members if the newer members are doing good on the path; that is what this entire ordeal for decades was for - Giving gentiles to opportunity to connect with their creator gods and taking control of their lives.

On a personal note I was made to realize how many of these Guardians have sacrificed a great part of their lives in addition to fighting the enemy, we should always be considerate to them
Also when did you fight the enemy brother ? After decades of research and tools were provided by Clergy to us.
These Guardians rose from amongst our ranks and have provided a great deal of knowledge and resources for the growth of the community.
Being a member on the Forums for close to 9 years only gives you more responsibility to be courteous and helpful with the other members - old and new

Just be respectful in the future, we are all in this journey together.
 
I respect people's work, I couldn't care less about titles, sorry if that hurts your feelings I guess. People are worthy of respect due to their merits, not their titles. The title alone means literally nothing.

Anyone else want to express their butthurt or can the thread continue?
I am butthurt over this yes lol
In any Temple or an Army hierarchy is the most important
I say this seriously. You fought, I fought and many others did. We have all been given gifts by the Gods personally be it material or spiritual for our efforts
These titles are earned like medals by these members as a mark of their service to the Community at a great cost to their personal life.
These titles are responsibilities more than there are badges worn around for a power trip. They have been bestowed by HP HC to them after consultations with the Gods. Same HP HC who gave us the rituals to fight and the knowledge to make correct decisions in life.
If hierarchy has to be explained to a long time members such as yourself I am not sure how to deal with this.


I couldn't care less about titles

Well sir, the Gods do. The way the Temple is moving in a couple of years or decades this place will be overflowing with people wanting to dedicate. These titles are but gifts by the Priesthood to these members who have proved to be useful to the Temple.
 
I respect people's work, I couldn't care less about titles, sorry if that hurts your feelings I guess. People are worthy of respect due to their merits, not their titles. The title alone means literally nothing.

Anyone else want to express their butthurt or can the thread continue?
This isn't your typical corporate office or xian church. Titles follow merits here, and since you've been here so long you should know that already.
 
Is 666% clear that Trump is not to be trusted, much less a role model for any Zevist, but the other option if the Democrats won was even worse: open borders, mass immigration, and extreme communization of USA.
I respect him for reviving White Race Pride throughout the world. Other than that it really is an overkill to expect a lot out of a him.
He is not a Zevist. He has worked well in unveiling the enemy in major ways. If Biden would have come to power, what we are seeing now would have never happened. No White Race Pride marches, no Epstein files, nothing.
Even if he were a God in human form most Gentiles would still need to escape the matrix on their own and spiritually evolve on their own.
It would be better if one of our American Zevists takes power in the coming decades rather than us betting on how deserving a Gentile candidate is. Most Gentiles will never meet the Zevist standards of performance.
 
I respect people's work, I couldn't care less about titles, sorry if that hurts your feelings I guess. People are worthy of respect due to their merits, not their titles. The title alone means literally nothing.

Anyone else want to express their butthurt or can the thread continue?
Welcome back! Long time no see.

And please understand the things have changed here a little bit in meanwhile. Wouldn't hurt to try and understand what changed and why before voicing opinion.
 
I think Trump is innocent.

If he really was a pedophile piece of shit, then the Gods wouldn’t have saved him from the assassination attempt

He’s aware of how much power the jews have currently and is just moving within this environment. He helped them in many ways just cause he likely couldn’t do otherwise or believes his supporters are still mainly pro israel and doesn’t want to lose them.

The media criticises everything he says and does, going against the jews would be political suicide.

When he was talking about the israel lobby losing power he seemed almost happy about it.


Then he says stuff like this, exposing them while also presenting himself as their ally;


I do think he cares about the US but when yids are all over the place in the American power structure he doesn’t have much room to truly oppose them.

There are anonymous victim stories of trump apparently engaging in horrible acts but these could be fake. I just don’t think the Gods would protect someone like that if he really
Did you believe that attempt on his life to be true?
Just curious, how do you know this? Is this stated by the clergy?
That’s old propaganda that he was gonna have a red beam on him it’s on one of the game cards they put out in the 90s. The whole thing sort of seemed off and the reality is trumps a playboy from the 90s playing with old money if he’s changed now ok that’s one thing but honestly America looks foolish for having him as a president
 
I respect people's work, I couldn't care less about titles, sorry if that hurts your feelings I guess. People are worthy of respect due to their merits, not their titles. The title alone means literally nothing.

Anyone else want to express their butthurt or can the thread continue?
Yes, titles here are 100% based on merits, work and achievements.

So titles here are fully worth the respect.

merits/achievements→title
 
I respect people's work, I couldn't care less about titles, sorry if that hurts your feelings I guess. People are worthy of respect due to their merits, not their titles. The title alone means literally nothing.

Anyone else want to express their butthurt or can the thread continue?


I hope you come over your superiority complex one day.
 
I've worked with and fought alongside these people for longer than most of you have even been in the struggle.

Questioning my respect for them is absurd.

Then cite what you have worked and fought for alongside them.

Supreme Guardians have the blessing of Zeus and the Gods, and they are next in rank after High Priest Cobra and High Priestess Lydia. If you are spiritually open, what do you think Zeus and the Gods will say about your actions? Your current behavior is disrupting the harmony of the forum.
 
I think the next true leader for the US will be someone who can embrace the power of the populace. It will not be any already existing public figure or billionaire, cause we know 99% of them are products of the enemy. Trump is so-so. Im sorry but nobody should expect too much from the same discourse from the ever existing "two sides of the coin" political parties.

But raise your eyes the day a new party leader starts speaking about ancient culture and culture/race preservation, raises awareness of real economic problems not based on some mumbo jumbo theoretical value of money bullshit, one that is clearly not a christard neither some mudslime and last but not least, for obvious reasons, not a goddamn jew.

This and the coming years the situation with the jews and their exposure will go exponential. Its only a matter of time till a real leader emerges from the wishes of the people. For what we know, it could be any of us here. This is what happened with the NSDAP and this is probably the same way its gonna play out in the future.
 
I respect people's work, I couldn't care less about titles, sorry if that hurts your feelings I guess. People are worthy of respect due to their merits, not their titles. The title alone means literally nothing.

Anyone else want to express their butthurt or can the thread continue?

People are worthy of respects due to merits indeed. What have you done for the Temple of Zeus? Or what have you done or contributed in general?

Nothing at all.

People are given Titles to reward merits, and proven work/capacity. You have contributed nothing, yet you act the highest and mightiest, with entirely undeserved ego of highest proportions. When assistance was needed most, you were nowhere to be seen, then you return one day, thankless as ever, only to attack like a thoughtless street thug.

Meanwhile excellent and great people here have given thousands of hours of their time, great deal of their energy, personal wealth, effort, talents, faculties and capabilities to grow, improve and maintain this place of Truth for the Gods, for the benefit of all humanity.

There is no time to remain stuck in the 2010's, after all this time, you have learned nothing, contributed nothing, and amount to nothing. Something for you to reflect on, if you are even capable of that.
 
I'm not sure he was close to Epstein. Epstein tried to surround himself with powerful people to corrupt them. So, the fact that Trump has photos with Epstein doesn't mean they were close friends or that he was involved in pedophilia.
Actually, that kind of proves it. There aren't just photos, there's also video and emails of the two interacting. I just found it strange (and malicious) that Trump used this to promote himself in the elections. It's strange because he's involved.
 
I don't believe that Trump has ever been religious. He never talked about christianity for most of his life. And I never heard any stories of him being religious or going to church. But in a presidential election, he has to pretend to be on the side of both the christians and the jews because they are two of the most powerful voter groups.

Your message is very accurate that most of these operations often go through the mosques and churches. By having NGO organizations dealing directly with these religious organizations in other countries, and the NGOs are then funded by USAID with American tax money to pay for all of these operations.
Exactly; all people have to look up religious history, What piques my attention now is , if USAID is now defunct, how are they bringing the Somalians into white countries?
 
he will probably be reincarnated as a jew next time, he loves that connection
A Gentile cannot reincarnate as a Jew and vice versa because the Jewish soul is completely different from ours; what will happen is that he will reincarnate with his soul damaged from having been closely linked to them.
 
I don't believe that Trump has ever been religious. He never talked about christianity for most of his life. And I never heard any stories of him being religious or going to church. But in a presidential election, he has to pretend to be on the side of both the christians and the jews because they are two of the most powerful voter groups.

Your message is very accurate that most of these operations often go through the mosques and churches. By having NGO organizations dealing directly with these religious organizations in other countries, and the NGOs are then funded by USAID with American tax money to pay for all of these operations.


Sorry for necroposting, but I'm going to repeat my post again because I half-assed it:

Exactly; all people have to do is look up religious history, look into the crimes Christians and Muslims have done in the past, and more critically, learn what certain words mean (Mainly heresy.)

What piques my attention now is that, if USAID is now defunct, how are they bringing the Somalians into white countries? It must be from the NGOs from the other countries.
 
Sorry for necroposting, but I'm going to repeat my post again because I half-assed it:

Exactly; all people have to do is look up religious history, look into the crimes Christians and Muslims have done in the past, and more critically, learn what certain words mean (Mainly heresy.)

What piques my attention now is that, if USAID is now defunct, how are they bringing the Somalians into white countries? It must be from the NGOs from the other countries.
USAID was an extremely large piece, but it was not the only piece. Bribery, corruption, fraud, and money laundering have been going through many different paths. USAID was the largest one, but not the only one. Just look for example at the democrats in Minnesota state government, governor Tim Walz and congresswoman Ilhan Omar who have stolen at least 19 Billion dollars through fraud from federal programs, and laundered this money through the Somali people. They directly worked together with the Somalians to show them how they can steal this money, with the governor directly signing approvals for all of these fake schools and even the official phone numbers and fax numbers for many of these fake schools actually used the Governor's office phone number and fax number. Then they split the money. The Somalians give hundreds of millions of dollars back to the Democrat politicians through illegal cash "off the books" campaign donations. They all vote for these same democrat politicians forever. And they also keep a lot of the money for themselves, to reward them for doing their part of these fraud schemes. And hundreds of millions of dollars per year is literally sent in suite cases full of cash on airplanes to Somalia, Dubai, and other places. Where the airports in this state, under the direction of the Democrat politicians, illegally ignore literally billions of dollars in suite cases going right through security and on the plane to another country, which is extremely illegal and easy to see. Hundreds of millions of dollars in this system have literally been found going directly to terrorist organizations in Somalia.

And this is only one small example in one small population in one state. It is the tip of the iceberg. How many hundreds of billions of dollars are stolen every year in similar ways by California?

This is only one small example. The globalist jews, Rothschilds, Epsteins, and all of the top criminal jewish families with literally trillions of dollars would prefer to steal our money and use our money instead of their own to fund all of these things. But they also have the money to do all of these things even if they weren't stealing through fraud. If the Rothschilds have trillions of dollars and enough money to move, create, destroy, and replace entire countries which they frequently do in Africa and South America and other places. By creating civil wars all over the world, funding and arming and directing both sides just to use both of them to destroy the entire country, as they have been doing for centuries.


America is very large, and many of these programs are using money drained from America. But many of these are also from the European Union which is doing all of these same things maybe even more directly and more openly. Is America doing half and EU doing half? Is EU doing 60% or 70%? Either way, this is not only an American problem.
 
Trymo

If Trump is innocent, then somehow all the other files are real except when it comes to him. We now know Elon was begging Epstein repeatedly to go to his island. Elon is already having a PR crisis. Powerful people all over the world are stepping down already, including politicians and university professors.

For Trump to be innocent, the files need to be real for everyone else having problems now, except for Trump. This also doesn't make sense because the DOJ has been removing the files that incriminate Trump.

Trump recently berated a reporter who asked about the survivors, getting angry instead of showing sympathy. Any president anywhere in the world would at least say they empathise with the survivors. Donald Trump attacks the person asking the question. That's not what an innocent man would do.

Your point about the media attacking him can easily be countered by the fact that Netanyahu is Trump's close ally not to mention the endless jews he is friends with.

The media has actually not even really talked about the allegations against Trump. If they were genuinely out to get him, they'd have written extensively about what the files reveal about his past. The media is largely silent on the Epstein files, save for some red herring blaming Russia to cover for Israel.

Trump's assassination was likely a psyop to make him popular with the masses so he can be elected. People like Peter Thiel, Netanyahu and other obvious enemy pawns fully supported him. Not to mention that AIPAC money.

We need to stop being on the fence regarding Trump's allegiance. It's to the enemy.
THANK YOU. TRUMP OBVIOUSLY HAD NO ATTEMPT ON HIS LIFE. IT WAS AN ELEMENTARY PRODUCTION AND ANYONE WITH EYES COULD SEE HOW FAKE IT WAS.
 
THANK YOU. TRUMP OBVIOUSLY HAD NO ATTEMPT ON HIS LIFE. IT WAS AN ELEMENTARY PRODUCTION AND ANYONE WITH EYES COULD SEE HOW FAKE IT WAS.
You have no understanding of the most basic parts of rifle ballistics. It missed killing him by around a quarter of an inch. The shooter was around 135 yards away. One minute of angle is about a quarter of an inch of distance at 100 yards away. So it missed killing him like less than 1 minute of angle. With a cheap AR15, the intrinsic precision will be much higher than 1moa, meaning even if the rifle was clamped in a vice so it absolutely could not move, repeated shots will land randomly within a circle with a radius of more than 1moa. 1 moa is very good, this is what hunters try to achieve as a goal with a bolt action hunting rifle which is much more precise/accurate than a cheap ar15 for a couple hundred dollars. His ar15 may have a precision of maybe 3 moa which sounds reasonable, meaning that if his rifle was clamped in a vice and could not move and could not shake, at 135 yards, repeated shots would land anywhere within a 2 inch diameter circle. Which is even a generous assumption, likely it would be even worse.

Plus the kid was not using a magnified optic. He was using a red dot sight which has no magnification. And he had horrible eye sight with very large glasses. What size is the dot in his red dot sight? Multiple MOA at least. 5 moa is a common size. Just the dot would block an area multiple inches wide from view and make precision of an area smaller than that impossible.

It is literally physically impossible to miss by an area that small on purpose. It missed him by around a quarter of an inch. The diameter of the 5.56mm bullet is around the same size as the amount it missed killing him by, which is not possible to do on purpose.

Why were CNN and MSNBC there that day recording the event? They have not attended any of his rallys in several years, and with more than 100 rallys per year, they certainly have only attended an extremely small number of them which all where many years ago. They never recorded or reported at any of his rallys because they didn't want anyone to see him speak, because they hate him and when people see him speak they start to agree with him more and his ratings go up. Not only they both attended that specific rally for the first time in several years, but they also brought a high speed camera that is able to record thousands of frames per second. They actually have a picture of one frame where you can see the bullet in the air. A 55gr 2.23 or 5.56 travels around 3,100 feet per second. Meaning they would need a camera with a frame rate of at least this many frames per second to be able to capture that image. What a strange thing to have when 60 frames per second is the standard, and even 120 fps basically only exists in video games and not regular videos. Even consider how these extremely high frame rate slow motion cameras are only able to record for a very short amount of time due to how much memory it uses, how did they know exactly the minute to start recording with that camera?

Plus all of the proof that the secret service knew this was happening and directly purposefully allowed it. They caught him flying a drone over the event earlier that morning which is extremely illegal, and they did nothing about it. They caught him bringing in a rifle range finder which is only used to calculate where to hold to make a long distance shot like that, and they let him in. They purposefully did not monitor the roof that he was on, and even ignored all of the people in the crowd yelling to them and telling them that a kid with a rifle is on the roof. They said they could not see him. Several agents at that time were inside a room on the second floor of the building directly next to where he was, and literally if they just looked out the window they see him directly in front of them. The secret service snipers on other roofs were looking at the kid through their scopes, they clearly see a kid with a rifle aiming at the stage, and for multiple minutes they purposefully did nothing and purposefully allowed him to get several shots off before shooting him. Plus the kid's cell phone location data showed his phone and anorher phone that is owned by an FBI agent both meeting together at the same gun range together multiple times. And the kid's cell phone was 1 block away from an FBI field office miltiple times, probably meeting with his handler again. Plus the kid was in a Blackrock commercial when he was younger. After this happened, everything in the kid's house was immediately removed and destroyed before any evidence could be gathered including even every fork, spoon, and knife was removed from the kitchen and destroyed.

The entire thing was purposefully done by the FBI and the Secret Service as a purposeful assassination attempt by our own government, just like both of the Kennedy brothers. And they told CNN and MSNBC about it before hand, told them to bring the high speed extreme slow motion cameras to record it. Because those sick fucks wanted to get the extremely slow motion video of his head exploding. But luckily he turned his head at exactly that moment, and it missed him by less than a quarter of an inch. Less than 5.3mm. When it would have not missed if he did not turn his head exactly then.


"Why did his ear heal?" Because your ear is one of the fastest healing locations in your entire body. There is extremely high blood flow in the face and the ears so they heal very quickly. Piercings like small gauges that are larger than a 5.5mm diameter can easily and quickly heal closed in a very short time, especially if a surgeon sews or glues it back together and is trying to have it heal.
 
I feel like a dumbass. That's what I get for writing this while I'm at work in the middle of working on fixing something.

1 MOA is like 1.04 inches at 100 yards. I was thinking how scope adjustments, 1 click is 1/4 of an moa which is 1/4 inch at 100 yards. Multiply every distance I said by 4. 1 moa at 135 yards is a 1.4 inch radius, forming a 2.8 inch diameter circle. 3moa of precision will have shots randomly form an 8.4 inch diameter circle. A 6 moa width red dot in a red dot sight would be blocking an 8.4 inch diameter circle which is wider than a head, the entire head would be invisible blocked by the red dot making a precision smaller than this impossible.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

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