About Salvation

[Disciple of the Serpent]

Let's be very honest with ourselves here.

The Saved, are the ones that engage in the Warrior Path, Zevism.

HPS Maxine may Lord Zeus bless Her eternally, and High Priest Hooded Cobra Saved us, or to better say, They gave us the opportunity to be with the Gods and the tools to Save ourselves.

Using these tools, and walking the Path, is up to us as individuals.

Temple of Zeus won't save you, it will give you the opportunity to save yourself, to become your own Saviour.

The actions like the Dedication Ritual, Rituals of the Gods, meditations, every other effort, ecc...
We did these ourselves, out of free will.It's imperative for every soul, to use it's own freedom to act, that's how evolution work for individuals.

This is an aspect, then there is also a Community aspect of doing things together, Schedules are an example, but the Community is based on the individuals.

Community and Clergy can help, the Ancient Gods, the Gods of the Future, can help and guide you, but it's up to you to walk the Path.

Now, let's say someone "saved" you, without you lifting a finger, it may be the false "jesus", someone else, or whatever. It is just an example here.

In the end, in the new world, the Age of Satya, the Saviours (of themselves, and as an extention to the world by giving the opportunity) will be at a golden table in a palace, doing parties with power and every possible wonder, in Victory and Glory.

The "saved" ones that didn't lift a finger, will be out in a corner, like cucks, while doing nothing, with no power or purpose.

They didn't grow, they can't really do much, they are basically just failures and useless.And they aren't compatible with an evolving world populated by Saviours.

These aren't really saved, as Salvation works differently, it comes from your own self.

This is anti-human to experience, I don't want that for myself, and it's something that I hate very openly, even before I became a Zevist.
Do you want that for yourself?

That's why I hated things like christianity even before joining Zevism, and I felt inspired by mythology, like the 12 Labors of Hercules.

I don't care about christians, muslims, or whatever group (There are many of every race and context, trapped in slave mentality outhere, in their own ignorance, not only abrahamic).

I do care about those who are willing to take action to Save themselves, to be the best possible version of themselves, and to create something really good all together.

However, everyone needs to have this possibility to Save himself, and in the end, it's up to them to follow the Gods and walk the Path.

 

[hailourtruegod]

Xians and the rest probably dont even know what they're being saved from. Their soul is saved? But what does the soul mean to these people when they dont even consider chakras to be real at the very least.

If anything these people just fear death because they believe its horrible afterwards or nothing exists or whatever.

I would bet a lot of these people are just afraid of death in itself instead of trying to understand the concept of a soul.

No one needs to be "saved" from death. It's like wanting to be "saved" from being born. Complete nonsense idea to those who understand we reincarnate, especially to those here who understand we come back for a reason.

It makes sense why the brainwash don't see anything of value in Hercules' trials. In their minds, If they're going to have only one life then why try to be the best version of themselves. In their minds, being a slave to a bloodthirsty "god" is the meaning of life...


You made great points about what it really means to be saved.

My point is, the average mudslim and xian wouldn't even begin to understand the meaning of the soul being saved when they have literal zero knowledge of the soul and the mechanics of it.

It requires a line of logic that is nowhere to be found in these false religions of the abrahamics.

 

[Disciple of the Serpent]

Xians and the rest probably dont even know what they're being saved from. Their soul is saved? But what does the soul mean to these people when they dont even consider chakras to be real at the very least.

If anything these people just fear death because they believe its horrible afterwards or nothing exists or whatever.

I would bet a lot of these people are just afraid of death in itself instead of trying to understand the concept of a soul.

No one needs to be "saved" from death. It's like wanting to be "saved" from being born. Complete nonsense idea to those who understand we reincarnate, especially to those here who understand we come back for a reason.

It makes sense why the brainwash don't see anything of value in Hercules' trials. In their minds, If they're going to have only one life then why try to be the best version of themselves. In their minds, being a slave to a bloodthirsty "god" is the meaning of life...


You made great points about what it really means to be saved.

My point is, the average mudslim and xian wouldn't even begin to understand the meaning of the soul being saved when they have literal zero knowledge of the soul and the mechanics of it.

It requires a line of logic that is nowhere to be found in these false religions of the abrahamics.

The line of logic can be even more simpler, and on things that everyone can understand.

Let's say a person is on the streets at deep night, and is being attacked by a criminal, and nobody is around.
If one do nothing, one loses his life.
Here, waiting to be saved = doing nothing = losing your life

What can a person do here? One can either try to escape, or fighting for his life.
In both ways, one try to save himself.

This is quite an extreme example, but it is useful to understand the logic.
Same thing with wild animals in wild nature.

The exeption is that of animals that were just born recently (vast majority of animals). They can't do anything, and they need to be saved by the Adult ones. This is the Community aspect, of the Community saving itself, as the new born are the future.

About larger topics such as soul and existence, one has to act and doing something to move from the larger topics of ignorance to the ones of Truth.
Waiting to be saved = doing nothing = losing your life/soul/existence

About those "who don't know", as children that can't do anything, we help them by giving to them the possibility and the tools to save themselves.

Let's see a different example, you have a child, and he has to do a lot of math homework. He hates doing homework, but it's something he needs, like people don't want discipline or to take certain actions and they prefer comfort.

"Saving" him from what he hates, by doing his homework, is something evil, and he will never grow and become a functional being.

Giving him the tools to do his work and to develop discipline, will benefit him.

After a point that block will be removed, and he will be able to do his work with discipline, and he will start enjoying the fruits of his work.

He saved himself here, from all the other problems and consequences.
And he actually learned something valuable.

 

[Disciple of the Serpent]

The line of logic can be even more simpler, and on things that everyone can understand.

Let's say a person is on the streets at deep night, and is being attacked by a criminal, and nobody is around.
If one do nothing, one loses his life.
Here, waiting to be saved = doing nothing = losing your life

What can a person do here? One can either try to escape, or fighting for his life.
In both ways, one try to save himself.

This is quite an extreme example, but it is useful to understand the logic.
Same thing with wild animals in wild nature.

The exeption is that of animals that were just born recently (vast majority of animals). They can't do anything, and they need to be saved by the Adult ones. This is the Community aspect, of the Community saving itself, as the new born are the future.

About larger topics such as soul and existence, one has to act and doing something to move from the larger topics of ignorance to the ones of Truth.
Waiting to be saved = doing nothing = losing your life/soul/existence

About those "who don't know", as children that can't do anything, we help them by giving to them the possibility and the tools to save themselves.

Let's see a different example, you have a child, and he has to do a lot of math homework. He hates doing homework, but it's something he needs, like people don't want discipline or to take certain actions and they prefer comfort.

"Saving" him from what he hates, by doing his homework, is something evil, and he will never grow and become a functional being.

Giving him the tools to do his work and to develop discipline, will benefit him.

After a point that block will be removed, and he will be able to do his work with discipline, and he will start enjoying the fruits of his work.

He saved himself here, from all the other problems and consequences.
And he actually learned something valuable.

Let's say you are hungry, people can do due to hunger. "jesus", "allah" or whatever won't appear to cook you the lunch, to save you from hunger.

So you are the one to cook your lunch, and you saved yourself from hunger.

About life and existence, very large topic, is the same.

As atoms have electrons orbiting them, so the stars have planets orbiting them, and so do galaxies with stars.

As above as below, and viceversa.

 

[Disciple of the Serpent]

The line of logic can be even more simpler, and on things that everyone can understand.

Let's say a person is on the streets at deep night, and is being attacked by a criminal, and nobody is around.
If one do nothing, one loses his life.
Here, waiting to be saved = doing nothing = losing your life

What can a person do here? One can either try to escape, or fighting for his life.
In both ways, one try to save himself.

This is quite an extreme example, but it is useful to understand the logic.
Same thing with wild animals in wild nature.

The exeption is that of animals that were just born recently (vast majority of animals). They can't do anything, and they need to be saved by the Adult ones. This is the Community aspect, of the Community saving itself, as the new born are the future.

About larger topics such as soul and existence, one has to act and doing something to move from the larger topics of ignorance to the ones of Truth.
Waiting to be saved = doing nothing = losing your life/soul/existence

About those "who don't know", as children that can't do anything, we help them by giving to them the possibility and the tools to save themselves.

Let's see a different example, you have a child, and he has to do a lot of math homework. He hates doing homework, but it's something he needs, like people don't want discipline or to take certain actions and they prefer comfort.

"Saving" him from what he hates, by doing his homework, is something evil, and he will never grow and become a functional being.

Giving him the tools to do his work and to develop discipline, will benefit him.

After a point that block will be removed, and he will be able to do his work with discipline, and he will start enjoying the fruits of his work.

He saved himself here, from all the other problems and consequences.
And he actually learned something valuable.

Let's say you are hungry, people can die due to hunger. "jesus", "allah" or whatever won't appear to cook you the lunch, to save you from hunger.

So you are the one to cook your lunch, and so you saved yourself from hunger.

About life and existence, very large topic, is the same.

As atoms have electrons orbiting them, so the stars have planets orbiting them, and so do galaxies with stars.

As above as below, and viceversa.

 

[hailourtruegod]

The line of logic can be even more simpler, and on things that everyone can understand.

Let's say a person is on the streets at deep night, and is being attacked by a criminal, and nobody is around.
If one do nothing, one loses his life.
Here, waiting to be saved = doing nothing = losing your life

What can a person do here? One can either try to escape, or fighting for his life.
In both ways, one try to save himself.

This is quite an extreme example, but it is useful to understand the logic.
Same thing with wild animals in wild nature.

The exeption is that of animals that were just born recently (vast majority of animals). They can't do anything, and they need to be saved by the Adult ones. This is the Community aspect, of the Community saving itself, as the new born are the future.

About larger topics such as soul and existence, one has to act and doing something to move from the larger topics of ignorance to the ones of Truth.
Waiting to be saved = doing nothing = losing your life/soul/existence

About those "who don't know", as children that can't do anything, we help them by giving to them the possibility and the tools to save themselves.

Let's see a different example, you have a child, and he has to do a lot of math homework. He hates doing homework, but it's something he needs, like people don't want discipline or to take certain actions and they prefer comfort.

"Saving" him from what he hates, by doing his homework, is something evil, and he will never grow and become a functional being.

Giving him the tools to do his work and to develop discipline, will benefit him.

After a point that block will be removed, and he will be able to do his work with discipline, and he will start enjoying the fruits of his work.

He saved himself here, from all the other problems and consequences.
And he actually learned something valuable.

Maybe they can start to understand the true concept of being "saved" by leading thru example. Is what seems youre trying to say.

I myself am done trying to dumb things down for xians and mudslims and from experience, no matter how hard you try to dumb it down it just doesnt work and one can end up looking like a fool in a circle of those without.

I do hope you understand what I'm getting at as I am not speaking about level headed people here but those who have fallen for the trap of being saved by some jew.

Although I am aware I could be the one being too harsh on them but I do speak from a lot of experience of dealing with those without and I can see that itself can be the so called blinders to not think your message will be able to be understood by said people.

 

[hailourtruegod]

Let's say you are hungry, people can die due to hunger. "jesus", "allah" or whatever won't appear to cook you the lunch, to save you from hunger.

So you are the one to cook your lunch, and so you saved yourself from hunger.

About life and existence, very large topic, is the same.

As atoms have electrons orbiting them, so the stars have planets orbiting them, and so do galaxies with stars.

As above as below, and viceversa.

I have feeling you're confused about my first reply. To clear the air, my first reply wasn't directed towards you but an add-on to what your initial point was. Seems like youre over explaining something to me or to those here when I was only going with your line of thinking about how confused those without are about what it means to be saved.