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I have a problem, should I call Nemesis or use black magic?

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Greetings, I just found out that our office's security service was spying on me outside of business hours, and now they're spreading rumors about sensitive information about me, my chief just informed me about it, and started asking questions, this is absurd, why the hell do people even care about other people? I do not even know who to complain to, and it is unlikely that it will help. Now i want my revenge, not because I'm angry, right now I feel nothing but how idiotic this situation is, I just want to destroy these degenerates who have nothing else to do. They share sensitive information about my private life, what kind of mockery is that?

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Greetings. The situation you describe is a real violation, and the anger underneath it is real too, even if you are calling it "nothing." That matters, because the way you are framing the choice right now is doing more harm than the coworkers are.

Let me reframe the binary you posed, because Nemesis and "black magic" are not the same kind of action, and "destroy these degenerates" is not the same as appealing to divine justice.

Nemesis is the Goddess of Cosmic Balance, Divine Retribution, and the Punishment of Hubris. In Zevist theology she is called Daughter of Zeus and Dike, Kore tes Maat, the Inescapable. Her oldest name is Adrasteia, "She Who Reaches All." Her symbols are the wheel, the scales, the sword, the bridle, and the measuring rod. She does not ride in on request because someone is angry. She restores what has been tilted. The Nemesis [Naamah] Power Ritual on TOZRituals is the complete ritual preserved by the Clergy. It opens with a SACRED WARNING that is worth reading very carefully: "Nemesis is ever vigilant. She watches all things at all times. This Ritual must be performed with absolute sincerity and grave intention. Empty invocation of Nemesis is itself an act of hubris." An angry, fixated person demanding she "destroy" identifiable coworkers is precisely the state this warning rules out. Approaching her requires the opposite of what you are feeling right now.

"Black magic" in this tradition is something different again. The Temple's Witchcraft page is direct about it: magick is powers of the mind, and "people who are new are encouraged to start out with white and grey magick, as black magick requires more knowledge and skill." The About Black Magick page permits retaliatory workings against documented offenders but warns that misuse "violates Ma'at and incurs heavy weight upon the practitioner." This is not a parallel to Nemesis. This is a serious, advanced, graduated tool that requires training, state of mind, and a cause that actually meets the threshold. Throwing together a custom curse against coworkers you want to see suffer is not what the Clergy means by black magick.

Here is the High Priest Zevios Metathronos on exactly the choice you are presenting, in his own words from this forum post: "In reality, the Gods do mandate that we self defend ourselves. If one is walking down the street with their wife and they are attacked, one must defend their wife, not just say 'Nemesis will handle it'. Unless you live in wonderland, you would understand how these things work, and what true disrespect it is to the Gods, to heap human affairs on them and essentially by extending your irrationality, allow all injustice to reign supreme." He then draws the line: "In the real world, there are two notions of justice; one is human action, the second is Divine. The latter concerns itself with very serious crimes, the first, must exist in order to keep a balanced society." Read that twice. The High Priest is telling you that the Justice of Men comes first, and the Justice of the Gods is reserved for things of a different magnitude. A workplace security service spying on you and a chief asking questions is a serious matter, but it is also the Justice of Men's domain. Offloading it entirely onto Nemesis, or worse, demanding Nemesis do what your ego wants, is the disrespect he is naming.

So the answer has three tracks, run in this order.

First, the Justice of Men track. The Temple's Know Your Rights page is explicit: document everything with dates, times, locations, and witnesses; preserve evidence at home, not at work; use HR, your equal opportunity officer, or the appropriate labor authority in your jurisdiction; never make verbal threats of any kind; and if the violation crosses into wiretapping, two-party-consent violations, GDPR-style data protection breaches, or contractual confidentiality violations, consult a qualified attorney. The High Priest's position on this is clear from his advice in another legal matter: "The gravity of the specifics of this situation should be discussed with a lawyer. Do not wait." What is being done to you may well be unlawful. That is a human-action path, and it is the one the Gods expect you to walk first.

Second, the divine justice track. If, after you have done the lawful steps and the situation still calls for the weight of cosmic balance to be brought to bear, then Nemesis is the appropriate deity, not because you are angry but because your cause is just. The Nemesis [Naamah] Power Ritual on TOZRituals is the complete ritual preserved by the Clergy, with its 270 vibrations, sigil, and affirmations. Do it whole, as written, exactly as preserved. Do not invent your own version, do not splice it with another ritual, do not shorten it, do not add your own demands. The Destruction Ritual on templeofzeus.org is the formal Condemnation, Attack, and Retribution working that invokes Nemesis by name as "the Goddess who ensures that no crime goes unpunished and no arrogance goes unchecked." It too is a complete ritual, with its own mandatory warning and its own timing. Do it as written, not as a recipe to be modified. Both belong to the Justice of the Gods, and both demand the state of mind the Virtue of Justice requires: "We must find balance between the three: the Justice of the Gods, the Justice of the Daemons, and the Justice of Men."

Third, the frame of mind track, and this is the one to do before any ritual. The Destruction Ritual itself lists what counts as invalid reasons: "Disliking someone. Jealousy or envy. A disagreement or argument. Romantic rejection. Petty workplace conflicts. Someone having a different opinion than you. Anger that will pass in a week." Be honest with yourself about which side of that line this falls on. Reading your own post, the language of "destroy these degenerates" and "destroy these idiots" is the kind of thing the ritual warns against. The Establishing Control page makes the same point in different words: "You feel everything. You acknowledge what you feel. And then you choose your response rather than being hijacked by the reaction." And the Virtue of Temperance, quoting Pythagoras: "First and foremost, one must become accustomed to establishing control (temperance) in the following things: Sleep, Lust, and Anger. A human being without temperance lacks measurement and control. As control is relinquished, so will one enter imbalanced states, evil, and problems." If you approach Nemesis in this state, the very warning on her ritual tells you what will happen.

One concrete next step, before any working. Write down, on paper, with dates, exactly what was done, who you suspect, what was said, and what you have as evidence. Start the human-action file. Then sit for a full meditation session, void meditation, not thinking about the coworkers. Do this for several days until the rage has settled into something measured. Only then decide whether Nemesis has a place in the picture. If you skip this step, you are doing what the High Priest named in his post: heaping human affairs on the Gods out of irrationality, and that is the disrespect, not the reverence.

If, after that honest accounting, the situation genuinely meets the Destruction Ritual's threshold of abuse of power by someone in a position of authority over you, betrayal of trust that caused serious damage, and slander with measurable consequences, then do the Nemesis [Naamah] Power Ritual as a God Ritual first, in the gravity and sincerity it demands, and then the Destruction Ritual as written if the offense still warrants it. But do the human action in parallel, because the Justice of Men is yours to carry, and the Gods have not absolved you of it.

Hail Zeus.

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Chian1

How do we effectively do this rituals if someone's have already tired to take our life, what are the intentions, affirmations and visualization to incorporate in this rituals to maximize it.

#2

If you have proofs about this, have you tried to talk to your boss and file a report? You can even go to the police if necessary. They may have been spying also other people in the office, not just you.

I also want to say, and this is for everyone in general, that you need to be able to confront problems in real life without using immediately black magic or inquiring divine justice. If someone use black magic to avoid any kind of direct confrontation, they are just being cowards.

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Black Magic

I'm a very bad diplomat, and I don't know how to sound convincing in real life, I know myself, and if I decided to solve this issue through a conversation, I would be told that there is nothing to worry about, either that I am exaggerating the problem, or that I have not figured out anything. I'd rather be a coward who uses black magic than waste time on empty talk

Nordicsupreme

I'm a very bad diplomat, and I don't know how to sound convincing in real life, I know myself, and if I decided to solve this issue through a conversation, I would be told that there is nothing to worry about, either that I am exaggerating the problem, or that I have not figured out anything. I'd rather be a coward who uses black magic than waste time on empty talk

Seems like this a problem you should work on instead of focusing so much on black magick

SG Hidden Warrior isn't calling you a coward. He is just stating that these challenges one faces builds a person and shapes their character. If you don't invest time in bettering yourself and being a complete individual who can deal with problems even in the physical realm then you start lacking aspects of growth in your personality.

Like an online friend is still a friend but it is comes at a cost of make real friends around you because you are scared or whatever your personality growth will be stunted. Not that you are not connected to people but that you would use one method to "escape" doing the hard thing. Such karma will carry with you even in your next lives and this problem won't ever be dealt with properly. This some lifetimes down the line you will need to do a real working to undo this karma which promotes tendencies towards escapism.

Its a warning for your own growth not an accusation of you being a coward

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Black Magic

I'm a very bad diplomat, and I don't know how to sound convincing in real life, I know myself, and if I decided to solve this issue through a conversation, I would be told that there is nothing to worry about, either that I am exaggerating the problem, or that I have not figured out anything. I'd rather be a coward who uses black magic than waste time on empty talk

Seems like this a problem you should work on instead of focusing so much on black magick

SG Hidden Warrior isn't calling you a coward. He is just stating that these challenges one faces builds a person and shapes their character. If you don't invest time in bettering yourself and being a complete individual who can deal with problems even in the physical realm then you start lacking aspects of growth in your personality.

So, if I think of the slander and the spreading of these rumors as a test, I need to assess how I can overcome it and what lesson I could take away from it for myself. I don’t know how to react to such antics from colleagues who allow themselves to act this way, should I start arguing with everyone about this now? I don’t have the energy for that, and besides, it’s counterproductive if people always insist on their own way and do what they do, convinced that they’re right in their own eyes. I’ve been told many times that my reaction to certain problems says more about me than about the problem itself or the people around me, but that doesn’t explain anything. People who say things like that imply one of two things, either that my reaction to external stimuli is wrong, or that I’m the one who needs to change. But if I keep changing myself every time, what will be left of me? Recently, someone told me I need to rein in my ego, and then what? Will they tell me to turn into a rock, and am I supposed to listen? Because one person thought his truth was superior to mine? I don't know, I'm not a judge. But when other people act like they know more than I do, I start asking them questions, and if they don't like those questions, they start to use sophistry, and because of that i start to lose my patience.

Your letter also implies the consequences of using black magic, karma. But I don’t see those who slander me and spread rumors about me suffering from karma. If karma only works against me but not against the source of the problem, then that’s not fair, and I believe I should fix this myself, because I don’t see karma rushing to do anything. All my life, I’ve seen that when it comes to others, karma seems to just sit in one place, not moving, but the moment I do something bad, I get punished. So here’s what I want to say: may such karma and the very concept of karma itself be damned. There won't be any karma for me in the next life, I've already been cooked in full in this life.

Some might say I'm not mature, but even if I were three times as old and three times as mature, I think I'd do exactly the same thing, without changing who I truly am. I started this thread because I'm looking for excuses not to do what I'd like to do. Because I'm tired of using black magic every time I do it, and even revenge doesn't bring me any pleasure, only emptiness, so I do what I do not because I want revenge, but because I want to get rid of the sensation in my fourth chakra that forces this desire for revenge upon me. When I asked my GD about this situation, I didn't get any answer. Usually, he always uses my intuition to guide me out of pointless or harmful actions, just so you know, my intuition literally lets me know that a particular product in the store is out of stock or if i wont get specific food in coffee shops, but this time, it's just staying silent. I thought that because of my strong emotions were preventing me from understanding my intuition or GD, but then I remembered that he had been guiding me even back when I was feeling that way before.

As for escapism, if I really were an escapist, I would have already chosen to kill myself.

Nordicsupreme

I'm a very bad diplomat, and I don't know how to sound convincing in real life, I know myself, and if I decided to solve this issue through a conversation, I would be told that there is nothing to worry about, either that I am exaggerating the problem, or that I have not figured out anything. I'd rather be a coward who uses black magic than waste time on empty talk

Seems like this a problem you should work on instead of focusing so much on black magick

SG Hidden Warrior isn't calling you a coward. He is just stating that these challenges one faces builds a person and shapes their character. If you don't invest time in bettering yourself and being a complete individual who can deal with problems even in the physical realm then you start lacking aspects of growth in your personality.

So, if I think of the slander and the spreading of these rumors as a test, I need to assess how I can overcome it and what lesson I could take away from it for myself. I don’t know how to react to such antics from colleagues who allow themselves to act this way, should I start arguing with everyone about this now? I don’t have the energy for that, and besides, it’s counterproductive if people always insist on their own way and do what they do, convinced that they’re right in their own eyes. I’ve been told many times that my reaction to certain problems says more about me than about the problem itself or the people around me, but that doesn’t explain anything. People who say things like that imply one of two things, either that my reaction to external stimuli is wrong, or that I’m the one who needs to change. But if I keep changing myself every time, what will be left of me? Recently, someone told me I need to rein in my ego, and then what? Will they tell me to turn into a rock, and am I supposed to listen? Because one person thought his truth was superior to mine? I don't know, I'm not a judge. But when other people act like they know more than I do, I start asking them questions, and if they don't like those questions, they start to use sophistry, and because of that i start to lose my patience.

Your letter also implies the consequences of using black magic, karma. But I don’t see those who slander me and spread rumors about me suffering from karma. If karma only works against me but not against the source of the problem, then that’s not fair, and I believe I should fix this myself, because I don’t see karma rushing to do anything. All my life, I’ve seen that when it comes to others, karma seems to just sit in one place, not moving, but the moment I do something bad, I get punished. So here’s what I want to say: may such karma and the very concept of karma itself be damned. There won't be any karma for me in the next life, I've already been cooked in full in this life.

Calm down dear brother! I know life can be tough and dealing with difficult people can be tough sometimes.

Talk to the Human Resource division, make some effort physically brother

If they still choose to bother you, you should always ask the Gods for guidance and if spiritual tools are really required, use them without doubt.

Nobody is asking you to change yourself brother or to destroy who you are as a person to fit a mold. You have to cultivate your own genuine self and it is through this that you will truly leave a mark on the world and those around you

You are in the situation and only you know best what the situation truly demands

Temple will never advocate for reckless use of spiritual tools, that's all. They hold real power and such be treated as such. Nobody is accusing you of anything here, take care of yourself and grow spiritually and materially.

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Read your terms of engagement with the company. Legally some organizations can look into your personal lives upto a certain extent or monitor closely your activities on a company laptop. Read the terms of engagement till what extent privacy can be invaded legally by the company.

If there is no proof available with you there is no point engaging in useless gossip by your coworkers. If your legal rights have actually been breached take help of a lawyer and sue the company or those employees for damages.

Be smart about the problems you encounter. Not every challenge is a threat, some are opportunities that might help you in the long run.

I agree 100% with SG Hidden Warrior. You exist physically, use all means available to tackle the problem in the physical realm. If nothing works out only then should someone actually use the tools available spiritually.

Spiritual tools are very real and the seriousness of having these tools available should be understood by everyone

#4

Well said NordicSupreme, how one uses company assets such as a phone, a MiFii jetpack, laptop, websites accessed on said assets, times of day used (during business hours) , it all falls under code of conduct and incompatible activity agreements between employees and employer. Also, how one represents oneself outside of work may be in a contract, depending on the type of work, of course. Always important to read what you sign, so you know the terms you have agreed to; and furthermore, your rights!

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Then how do we do Nemesis rituals effectively like some one tried to kill us already

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Alexander666
This is the targeted reply.

Didnt you call the police?

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Black Magic

Didnt you call the police?

Unfortunately, sometimes we don’t want to air our dirty laundry in public when it comes to our own home, and we don’t always want to involve the government in our personal problems—since it might rule differently than we expected, or in its own way. That’s why I’ve always been inclined to think that true justice belongs only to the gods.

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I'm a very bad diplomat, and I don't know how to sound convincing in real life, I know myself, and if I decided to solve this issue through a conversation, I would be told that there is nothing to worry about, either that I am exaggerating the problem, or that I have not figured out anything. I'd rather be a coward who uses black magic than waste time on empty talk

The thing is, there is a high chance that even if you did magic, magic would work to make you stronger in your search for justice, braver, more eloquent, bring luck to you in your confrontation, align you with good astrological timings, bring a manager/boss/police/lawyer that will really help you, make people believe you, make people agree with you, and similar. So if you avoid acting upon it, you will make your magic weak and void. Allow the magic to work.

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Black Magic

what a wonderful answer, thank u

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Pammy

what a wonderful answer, thank u

You are welcome, and whatever you do magically, you can develop it with Isa at the center as you care about privacy. Iss bestows invisibility. Its binding aspect is mentioned often but I think its ''It represents stealth and sneakiness and is used in operations where one wishes to proceed undetected'' aspect is very comforting when you do not want attention and spotlight, ''It can halt a plan and prevent something from developing'' can be helpful to stop rumors from spreading, and can be used for offense, not just binding in my opinion.