luis said:
Meteor said:
Because gay people can't have kids. Maybe unnatural is not the right word but I still think that any gay that is not on a low spiritual level can fully understand its not in their nature to have kids. Its that simple, advancing spiritualy makes you understand a lot more about yourself and nature. There are people that desire to have three dicks or other weird things, people on a low spiritual level can have "unnatural" desires.
Preferring partners of the same sex, and wanting to have children, can both be a part of someone's natural self. I understand the importance of making choices and being realistic, but isn't it dishonest to repress one of those desires in favour of the other, such as pretending you don't want to have children simply because you can't, or trying to live an unfulfilling heterosexual lifestyle just to be able to have children?
It's different from wanting to have "three dicks" like the example you gave; it's true that it's a bit strange when the way it manifests is that a lesbian pretends she's getting someone pregnant with a strap-on or vice versa, but roleplay like that is only a manifestation of urges that are considered completely normal in straight people. You could even consider it a part of basic survival instincts seen in nature, wanting to protect their bloodline by expanding it. Since some people are naturally born with a contradictory nature like that, I think it's incorrect to call it unnatural. I see it as two different sides of the same person that happen to clash with each other.
If it's possible to erase someone's instinctive desire to have children, then by the same logic it's also possible to erase their preference for partners of the same sex; both are altering a person's very nature and sexual instincts. I think both options are just as unnatural. But surely such conflicting desires would torment someone, so I understand why people like that might want to change their nature, and try to repress one of them. But that only makes things worse for them in the long run, as they feel that their life is empty without children even when they have a loving partner, which can lead to depression; or they feel deeply unfulfilled and even violated in a heterosexual relationship despite their best efforts to enjoy it. The latter often leads to people cheating on their partner and eventually divorcing, which isn't good for anyone, especially not the children.
It's also the same conflict that leads people like the OP of this thread to feel like they want to be the opposite sex or hermaphroditic: because they start thinking that if they were simply the opposite sex, they would be able to have children with the person they love. Feelings like that are quick to rot and turn into self-hatred, and can lead people to rash decisions or self-harm if it goes too far.
I can understand if you say that the natural course of action for them is to accept that they have to make a choice, and accept that they will never be able to have children with someone they're compatible with, regardless of what they choose. But I think that's a bit tragic. I wish that there was a better solution for them, but even after pondering it for years, I couldn't think of anything that sounds right. Even when I tried asking other people, they just said people like that should adopt, or try to come to terms with the fact that there's nothing they can do, or that perhaps in the future there will be artificial ways for them to have children. But there are so many issues with adoption, and I'm too idealistic to tell people to give up on their dreams, and artificial methods are undeniably unnatural too.
I doubt even the Gods have an answer on this topic that would satisfy my morals or standards, let alone any mortals, even on here. I've given up on finding an answer, but I made this post because I wanted to say that it's not as simple as you make it out to be. For some people, their contradictory nature would only become more apparent the more they advance spiritually.