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[doe.trent]

Hello everyone.

Usually I like to search for answers on my own rather than asking them but this is a kinda delicate matter, so I decided to ask the knowledgeable community about this, rather than trusting myself for information on different sites.

Lets start with myself.

I was unable to find my way, a meaning in my life, a reason to live for, for a long time. I felt empty. After some time I found out that I am really interested about occult science, more specifically, where occult meets the history of mankind. I usually encountered writings where the church is nice and good, and one should only be committed to God. What I always felt about these that something isn't right. I could go on that if God wishes us joy, why forbid things like having sex for joy for example, the list could be endless. I always felt that why almost every advanced ancient civilizations worshipped multiple gods?

Along this path I found LaVey Satanism first. It was good at some points, but my opinion that it is more like "survival of the fittesmism" as I say. But even this was way more acceptable for me than any other previously found ones. And lastly I found Spiritual Satanism, Joy of Satan to be more exact, and after reading a great part of the website I found that logically this is the only true religion.

I mentioned that I am very interested about occult, I was always a deep thinker even as a young person - which was deepened when I met a girl who showed me that supernatural is real, she was corrupted by the church though, unfortunately. Anyway, I am about to dedicate myself to Satan - beleive it or not, the only thing why I did not so that it is horribly hard to find black candles in my area, and as I live alone, I cannot afford international order for some candles. In due time...

I have some concerns though, and I hope that I will not receive answers like "YOU ARE A WEAKLING YOU ARE UNWORTHY OF THE BLESSINGS OF OUR LORD IF YOU ARE AFRAID" and so on.

Currently, I am renting the future residence of my parents. I definitely would like to communicate with Demons, since even without commitment to Satan, I feel that Gremory smiled on me, as during my night meditation I concentrated on her sigil, and have thoughts about being so lonely. The next day, almost every women I met was strangely friendly, one childhood "almost was girlfriend" called me that we should meet, in an unmistakable voice.

Anyway back to the point, my concern is: will Demons I made contact with have any bonds to this house? I mean I definitely do not want that my parents will have any kind of contact with them. As they surely does not beleive in the supernatural, they would be frightened. I would also feel a lot of guilt if my expereiences would leave such behind when they move in to the lot and I move out.

I admit this post was a bit long and I am not a native English speaker, sorry for any mistakes. Please let me if my concerns are unfounded.

Thanks in advance.

 

[the_fire_starter666]

Hi and welcome. Are you joking, you're not doing the dedication ritual because you can't find black candles? Nobody said that you have to wait, use whatever materials you have and do the dedication!!

I think your question is based on misinfo, the typical "hauntings" are caused by human ghosts or elementals, not any other real extraterrestrial beings with physical bodies like our Gods. They are too busy to waste time doing something with the house, it's completely unnecesary and stupid to do that when projecting astrally and they neglect their physical bodies. They are not discarnate beings, they do have physical bodies and they don't have plenty of time to go around doing stupid things. Why do you think that contacting them for something personal between you and them would involve other people/places??

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "doe.trent" <doe.trent@... wrote:

Hello everyone.

Usually I like to search for answers on my own rather than asking them but this is a kinda delicate matter, so I decided to ask the knowledgeable community about this, rather than trusting myself for information on different sites.

Lets start with myself.

I was unable to find my way, a meaning in my life, a reason to live for, for a long time. I felt empty. After some time I found out that I am really interested about occult science, more specifically, where occult meets the history of mankind. I usually encountered writings where the church is nice and good, and one should only be committed to God. What I always felt about these that something isn't right. I could go on that if God wishes us joy, why forbid things like having sex for joy for example, the list could be endless. I always felt that why almost every advanced ancient civilizations worshipped multiple gods?

Along this path I found LaVey Satanism first. It was good at some points, but my opinion that it is more like "survival of the fittesmism" as I say. But even this was way more acceptable for me than any other previously found ones. And lastly I found Spiritual Satanism, Joy of Satan to be more exact, and after reading a great part of the website I found that logically this is the only true religion.

I mentioned that I am very interested about occult, I was always a deep thinker even as a young person - which was deepened when I met a girl who showed me that supernatural is real, she was corrupted by the church though, unfortunately. Anyway, I am about to dedicate myself to Satan - beleive it or not, the only thing why I did not so that it is horribly hard to find black candles in my area, and as I live alone, I cannot afford international order for some candles. In due time...

I have some concerns though, and I hope that I will not receive answers like "YOU ARE A WEAKLING YOU ARE UNWORTHY OF THE BLESSINGS OF OUR LORD IF YOU ARE AFRAID" and so on.

Currently, I am renting the future residence of my parents. I definitely would like to communicate with Demons, since even without commitment to Satan, I feel that Gremory smiled on me, as during my night meditation I concentrated on her sigil, and have thoughts about being so lonely. The next day, almost every women I met was strangely friendly, one childhood "almost was girlfriend" called me that we should meet, in an unmistakable voice.

Anyway back to the point, my concern is: will Demons I made contact with have any bonds to this house? I mean I definitely do not want that my parents will have any kind of contact with them. As they surely does not beleive in the supernatural, they would be frightened. I would also feel a lot of guilt if my expereiences would leave such behind when they move in to the lot and I move out.

I admit this post was a bit long and I am not a native English speaker, sorry for any mistakes. Please let me if my concerns are unfounded.

Thanks in advance.

 

[the_fire_starter666]

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... aimer.html

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

P.S. Only JoS is Spiritual Satanism. The subcategory "Spiritual Satanism" was first given by the JoS clergy on Satan's instruction, it didn't exist before 2002. Other non-laveyan types of Satanism were called "Theistic", "Traditional" e.t.c.

I think I needed to clarify that because there are many newbies they say they found other "Spiritual Satanism" sites and they say they contradicts the JoS on many aspects or even attack/bash the JoS, if it contradicts the JoS it isn't really Spiritual Satanism, no matter whether they call themselves so or not.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

Hi and welcome. Are you joking, you're not doing the dedication ritual because you can't find black candles? Nobody said that you have to wait, use whatever materials you have and do the dedication!!

I think your question is based on misinfo, the typical "hauntings" are caused by human ghosts or elementals, not any other real extraterrestrial beings with physical bodies like our Gods. They are too busy to waste time doing something with the house, it's completely unnecesary and stupid to do that when projecting astrally and they neglect their physical bodies. They are not discarnate beings, they do have physical bodies and they don't have plenty of time to go around doing stupid things. Why do you think that contacting them for something personal between you and them would involve other people/places??


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "doe.trent" <doe.trent@ wrote:

Hello everyone.

Usually I like to search for answers on my own rather than asking them but this is a kinda delicate matter, so I decided to ask the knowledgeable community about this, rather than trusting myself for information on different sites.

Lets start with myself.

I was unable to find my way, a meaning in my life, a reason to live for, for a long time. I felt empty. After some time I found out that I am really interested about occult science, more specifically, where occult meets the history of mankind. I usually encountered writings where the church is nice and good, and one should only be committed to God. What I always felt about these that something isn't right. I could go on that if God wishes us joy, why forbid things like having sex for joy for example, the list could be endless. I always felt that why almost every advanced ancient civilizations worshipped multiple gods?

Along this path I found LaVey Satanism first. It was good at some points, but my opinion that it is more like "survival of the fittesmism" as I say. But even this was way more acceptable for me than any other previously found ones. And lastly I found Spiritual Satanism, Joy of Satan to be more exact, and after reading a great part of the website I found that logically this is the only true religion.

I mentioned that I am very interested about occult, I was always a deep thinker even as a young person - which was deepened when I met a girl who showed me that supernatural is real, she was corrupted by the church though, unfortunately. Anyway, I am about to dedicate myself to Satan - beleive it or not, the only thing why I did not so that it is horribly hard to find black candles in my area, and as I live alone, I cannot afford international order for some candles. In due time...

I have some concerns though, and I hope that I will not receive answers like "YOU ARE A WEAKLING YOU ARE UNWORTHY OF THE BLESSINGS OF OUR LORD IF YOU ARE AFRAID" and so on.

Currently, I am renting the future residence of my parents. I definitely would like to communicate with Demons, since even without commitment to Satan, I feel that Gremory smiled on me, as during my night meditation I concentrated on her sigil, and have thoughts about being so lonely. The next day, almost every women I met was strangely friendly, one childhood "almost was girlfriend" called me that we should meet, in an unmistakable voice.

Anyway back to the point, my concern is: will Demons I made contact with have any bonds to this house? I mean I definitely do not want that my parents will have any kind of contact with them. As they surely does not beleive in the supernatural, they would be frightened. I would also feel a lot of guilt if my expereiences would leave such behind when they move in to the lot and I move out.

I admit this post was a bit long and I am not a native English speaker, sorry for any mistakes. Please let me if my concerns are unfounded.

Thanks in advance.

 

[doe.trent]

I see, this cleared things up. I wasn't joking, as I said I am completely new to this, and thought that everything needs to be in a neat order for the dedication. Maybe I thought it would be unrespectful if I use only what I can find. Well I guess a red one will do as well in this case.

Thanks for the info!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... aimer.html

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

P.S. Only JoS is Spiritual Satanism. The subcategory "Spiritual Satanism" was first given by the JoS clergy on Satan's instruction, it didn't exist before 2002. Other non-laveyan types of Satanism were called "Theistic", "Traditional" e.t.c.

I think I needed to clarify that because there are many newbies they say they found other "Spiritual Satanism" sites and they say they contradicts the JoS on many aspects or even attack/bash the JoS, if it contradicts the JoS it isn't really Spiritual Satanism, no matter whether they call themselves so or not.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

Hi and welcome. Are you joking, you're not doing the dedication ritual because you can't find black candles? Nobody said that you have to wait, use whatever materials you have and do the dedication!!

I think your question is based on misinfo, the typical "hauntings" are caused by human ghosts or elementals, not any other real extraterrestrial beings with physical bodies like our Gods. They are too busy to waste time doing something with the house, it's completely unnecesary and stupid to do that when projecting astrally and they neglect their physical bodies. They are not discarnate beings, they do have physical bodies and they don't have plenty of time to go around doing stupid things. Why do you think that contacting them for something personal between you and them would involve other people/places??


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "doe.trent" <doe.trent@ wrote:

Hello everyone.

Usually I like to search for answers on my own rather than asking them but this is a kinda delicate matter, so I decided to ask the knowledgeable community about this, rather than trusting myself for information on different sites.

Lets start with myself.

I was unable to find my way, a meaning in my life, a reason to live for, for a long time. I felt empty. After some time I found out that I am really interested about occult science, more specifically, where occult meets the history of mankind. I usually encountered writings where the church is nice and good, and one should only be committed to God. What I always felt about these that something isn't right. I could go on that if God wishes us joy, why forbid things like having sex for joy for example, the list could be endless. I always felt that why almost every advanced ancient civilizations worshipped multiple gods?

Along this path I found LaVey Satanism first. It was good at some points, but my opinion that it is more like "survival of the fittesmism" as I say. But even this was way more acceptable for me than any other previously found ones. And lastly I found Spiritual Satanism, Joy of Satan to be more exact, and after reading a great part of the website I found that logically this is the only true religion.

I mentioned that I am very interested about occult, I was always a deep thinker even as a young person - which was deepened when I met a girl who showed me that supernatural is real, she was corrupted by the church though, unfortunately. Anyway, I am about to dedicate myself to Satan - beleive it or not, the only thing why I did not so that it is horribly hard to find black candles in my area, and as I live alone, I cannot afford international order for some candles. In due time...

I have some concerns though, and I hope that I will not receive answers like "YOU ARE A WEAKLING YOU ARE UNWORTHY OF THE BLESSINGS OF OUR LORD IF YOU ARE AFRAID" and so on.

Currently, I am renting the future residence of my parents. I definitely would like to communicate with Demons, since even without commitment to Satan, I feel that Gremory smiled on me, as during my night meditation I concentrated on her sigil, and have thoughts about being so lonely. The next day, almost every women I met was strangely friendly, one childhood "almost was girlfriend" called me that we should meet, in an unmistakable voice.

Anyway back to the point, my concern is: will Demons I made contact with have any bonds to this house? I mean I definitely do not want that my parents will have any kind of contact with them. As they surely does not beleive in the supernatural, they would be frightened. I would also feel a lot of guilt if my expereiences would leave such behind when they move in to the lot and I move out.

I admit this post was a bit long and I am not a native English speaker, sorry for any mistakes. Please let me if my concerns are unfounded.

Thanks in advance.

 

[the_fire_starter666]

The only way to be disrespectful is because of your intention, not the items you use. It's funny, people ask what kind of candles to use so they aren't disrespectful, yet these same people think the dedication is about instant power and/or money and want to use Satan for that, which is disrespectful.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "doe.trent" <doe.trent@... wrote:

I see, this cleared things up. I wasn't joking, as I said I am completely new to this, and thought that everything needs to be in a neat order for the dedication. Maybe I thought it would be unrespectful if I use only what I can find. Well I guess a red one will do as well in this case.

Thanks for the info!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... aimer.html

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

P.S. Only JoS is Spiritual Satanism. The subcategory "Spiritual Satanism" was first given by the JoS clergy on Satan's instruction, it didn't exist before 2002. Other non-laveyan types of Satanism were called "Theistic", "Traditional" e.t.c.

I think I needed to clarify that because there are many newbies they say they found other "Spiritual Satanism" sites and they say they contradicts the JoS on many aspects or even attack/bash the JoS, if it contradicts the JoS it isn't really Spiritual Satanism, no matter whether they call themselves so or not.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

Hi and welcome. Are you joking, you're not doing the dedication ritual because you can't find black candles? Nobody said that you have to wait, use whatever materials you have and do the dedication!!

I think your question is based on misinfo, the typical "hauntings" are caused by human ghosts or elementals, not any other real extraterrestrial beings with physical bodies like our Gods. They are too busy to waste time doing something with the house, it's completely unnecesary and stupid to do that when projecting astrally and they neglect their physical bodies. They are not discarnate beings, they do have physical bodies and they don't have plenty of time to go around doing stupid things. Why do you think that contacting them for something personal between you and them would involve other people/places??


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "doe.trent" <doe.trent@ wrote:

Hello everyone.

Usually I like to search for answers on my own rather than asking them but this is a kinda delicate matter, so I decided to ask the knowledgeable community about this, rather than trusting myself for information on different sites.

Lets start with myself.

I was unable to find my way, a meaning in my life, a reason to live for, for a long time. I felt empty. After some time I found out that I am really interested about occult science, more specifically, where occult meets the history of mankind. I usually encountered writings where the church is nice and good, and one should only be committed to God. What I always felt about these that something isn't right. I could go on that if God wishes us joy, why forbid things like having sex for joy for example, the list could be endless. I always felt that why almost every advanced ancient civilizations worshipped multiple gods?

Along this path I found LaVey Satanism first. It was good at some points, but my opinion that it is more like "survival of the fittesmism" as I say. But even this was way more acceptable for me than any other previously found ones. And lastly I found Spiritual Satanism, Joy of Satan to be more exact, and after reading a great part of the website I found that logically this is the only true religion.

I mentioned that I am very interested about occult, I was always a deep thinker even as a young person - which was deepened when I met a girl who showed me that supernatural is real, she was corrupted by the church though, unfortunately. Anyway, I am about to dedicate myself to Satan - beleive it or not, the only thing why I did not so that it is horribly hard to find black candles in my area, and as I live alone, I cannot afford international order for some candles. In due time...

I have some concerns though, and I hope that I will not receive answers like "YOU ARE A WEAKLING YOU ARE UNWORTHY OF THE BLESSINGS OF OUR LORD IF YOU ARE AFRAID" and so on.

Currently, I am renting the future residence of my parents. I definitely would like to communicate with Demons, since even without commitment to Satan, I feel that Gremory smiled on me, as during my night meditation I concentrated on her sigil, and have thoughts about being so lonely. The next day, almost every women I met was strangely friendly, one childhood "almost was girlfriend" called me that we should meet, in an unmistakable voice.

Anyway back to the point, my concern is: will Demons I made contact with have any bonds to this house? I mean I definitely do not want that my parents will have any kind of contact with them. As they surely does not beleive in the supernatural, they would be frightened. I would also feel a lot of guilt if my expereiences would leave such behind when they move in to the lot and I move out.

I admit this post was a bit long and I am not a native English speaker, sorry for any mistakes. Please let me if my concerns are unfounded.

Thanks in advance.

 

[doe.trent]

Well, this certainly not applies for me. I am looking for guidance for my life, the benefits are secondary. Of course everyone have wishes and may uncounciously wish for assistance. My wish is to take my soul to the next level, to see the unseen, and to simply forfeit this current miserable lifestyle of mine and exchange it for a happy life. So I hope my intentions are not wrong.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

The only way to be disrespectful is because of your intention, not the items you use. It's funny, people ask what kind of candles to use so they aren't disrespectful, yet these same people think the dedication is about instant power and/or money and want to use Satan for that, which is disrespectful.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "doe.trent" <doe.trent@ wrote:

I see, this cleared things up. I wasn't joking, as I said I am completely new to this, and thought that everything needs to be in a neat order for the dedication. Maybe I thought it would be unrespectful if I use only what I can find. Well I guess a red one will do as well in this case.

Thanks for the info!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... aimer.html

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

P.S. Only JoS is Spiritual Satanism. The subcategory "Spiritual Satanism" was first given by the JoS clergy on Satan's instruction, it didn't exist before 2002. Other non-laveyan types of Satanism were called "Theistic", "Traditional" e.t.c.

I think I needed to clarify that because there are many newbies they say they found other "Spiritual Satanism" sites and they say they contradicts the JoS on many aspects or even attack/bash the JoS, if it contradicts the JoS it isn't really Spiritual Satanism, no matter whether they call themselves so or not.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

Hi and welcome. Are you joking, you're not doing the dedication ritual because you can't find black candles? Nobody said that you have to wait, use whatever materials you have and do the dedication!!

I think your question is based on misinfo, the typical "hauntings" are caused by human ghosts or elementals, not any other real extraterrestrial beings with physical bodies like our Gods. They are too busy to waste time doing something with the house, it's completely unnecesary and stupid to do that when projecting astrally and they neglect their physical bodies. They are not discarnate beings, they do have physical bodies and they don't have plenty of time to go around doing stupid things. Why do you think that contacting them for something personal between you and them would involve other people/places??


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "doe.trent" <doe.trent@ wrote:

Hello everyone.

Usually I like to search for answers on my own rather than asking them but this is a kinda delicate matter, so I decided to ask the knowledgeable community about this, rather than trusting myself for information on different sites.

Lets start with myself.

I was unable to find my way, a meaning in my life, a reason to live for, for a long time. I felt empty. After some time I found out that I am really interested about occult science, more specifically, where occult meets the history of mankind. I usually encountered writings where the church is nice and good, and one should only be committed to God. What I always felt about these that something isn't right. I could go on that if God wishes us joy, why forbid things like having sex for joy for example, the list could be endless. I always felt that why almost every advanced ancient civilizations worshipped multiple gods?

Along this path I found LaVey Satanism first. It was good at some points, but my opinion that it is more like "survival of the fittesmism" as I say. But even this was way more acceptable for me than any other previously found ones. And lastly I found Spiritual Satanism, Joy of Satan to be more exact, and after reading a great part of the website I found that logically this is the only true religion.

I mentioned that I am very interested about occult, I was always a deep thinker even as a young person - which was deepened when I met a girl who showed me that supernatural is real, she was corrupted by the church though, unfortunately. Anyway, I am about to dedicate myself to Satan - beleive it or not, the only thing why I did not so that it is horribly hard to find black candles in my area, and as I live alone, I cannot afford international order for some candles. In due time...

I have some concerns though, and I hope that I will not receive answers like "YOU ARE A WEAKLING YOU ARE UNWORTHY OF THE BLESSINGS OF OUR LORD IF YOU ARE AFRAID" and so on.

Currently, I am renting the future residence of my parents. I definitely would like to communicate with Demons, since even without commitment to Satan, I feel that Gremory smiled on me, as during my night meditation I concentrated on her sigil, and have thoughts about being so lonely. The next day, almost every women I met was strangely friendly, one childhood "almost was girlfriend" called me that we should meet, in an unmistakable voice.

Anyway back to the point, my concern is: will Demons I made contact with have any bonds to this house? I mean I definitely do not want that my parents will have any kind of contact with them. As they surely does not beleive in the supernatural, they would be frightened. I would also feel a lot of guilt if my expereiences would leave such behind when they move in to the lot and I move out.

I admit this post was a bit long and I am not a native English speaker, sorry for any mistakes. Please let me if my concerns are unfounded.

Thanks in advance.