Hemp is not "muh weed"

[Serbon]

And also, hemp is one of the 50 fundamental herbs in Chinese Traditional Medicine.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

It would be more helpful if you would post something other than pictures that were created by either drug addicts trying to promote drug use, or people trying to make money by selling supplements.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=58702

 

[Serbon]

It would be more helpful if you would post something other than pictures that were created by either drug addicts trying to promote drug use, or people trying to make money by selling supplements.

If I would have posted links to researches, no one would read them. Pictures are easier for people to read.
Hemp consumption is not "drug use".

 

[Priest - Alexandros Iowno]

Hemp is not miraculous either. There's too much misplaced enthusiasm about this. If you have cancer, hardcore chronic illnesses, extraordinary choice. Talk to the doctors and the Gods.

This stems from cultural brainwashing. Wellness and comfort are only buzzwords for drug acceptance. I have wrote enough about this to be educational.

 

[Serbon]

Hemp is not miraculous either. There's too much misplaced enthusiasm about this. If you have cancer, hardcore chronic illnesses, extraordinary choice. Talk to the doctors and the Gods.

This stems from cultural brainwashing. Wellness and comfort are only buzzwords for drug acceptance. I have wrote enough about this to be educational.

The cultural brainwashing is quite the opposite. Hemp has been under attack for decades. I wouldn't call studies "only enthusiasm".
CBD is not only used for hardcore illnesses, it can help with stuff as simple as a normal cold or just sleeping problems.

 

[Head Guardian Blitzkreig]

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Yes, there are many uses for herbs and foods in medicine. Hemp is but only one of them.

In regards to Marijuana itself, this is not useful in the slightest, not in any medical sense.

"Let's take a look at how cannabis affects the elements of the body. Using cannabis takes Jing and rapidly turns it into Qi and Shen, thus you lose a lot of essence over time, since you're body is releasing Jing faster than the body can assimilate it. This would be similar to going to college with a large trust fund only to overspend it and find yourself pennyless after a mere two years into your four-year degree. Over spending your allotted Jing makes one understand why people who consume a lot of drugs might look like they are aging faster than is normal.


Wood Disharmony
Cannabis users are many times the deepest visionaries of society. They want to be in deep alignment with their spirit and shine bright into the world. The liver is the General and Force of Direction. The impact on liver yang is that in the short term, there is a creativity and expanded visionary process. Longer term, there is a weakened visionary process and inability to take action. When the liver, an emotional organ, gets upset, red eyes, irritability and depression set in. Women have a disruption in menses with worsened PMS symptoms.


Fire Ablaze
In Chinese, the word for "heart" (hsin) is also used to denote "mind." The Shen resides in the heart, and as one sleeps, blood goes into the heart and calms the Shen. Upon awakening, they feel refreshed. When cannabis goes into fire of the heart, it might seem innocuous at first. While awake, sudden flashes of anger arise and paranoia sets in. Without a strong Shen, one seems "lost" and sleep becomes restless and disturbed with nightmares and heart palpitations.


Earth Scorched
When fire scorches the earth, the yin of earth gets depleted, and the body has similar symptoms of hypoglycaemia; blood sugar drops and the appetite is constantly hungry. If one is not in touch with what nourishes them, then they will eat random things, and might gain weight. Women will be prone to yeast and bladder infections because of the dampness from accumulated sugars eaten.


Metal, Too Weak To Cut
Cannabis affects the lungs, skin and immunity. Specific symptomology are: the lungs and skin get dry and there will be deep red-hot pimples on the large intestine meridians on the face (around the mouth) and chest/upper back area surrounding the lungs. There is typically a chronic cough with mucus. Long term, there might be asthma/eczema or random staph infections. Regular cannabis smokers have respiratory issues such as lung qi deficiency with heat (sometimes producing little yellow phlegm nuggets in the mornings).


Water Depleted
By tapping into the water of the kidneys, the Jing is depleted. There is fire from the heart meridian and vision from the liver, but not enough energy to produce a result. Long-term users might suffer from lower back achiness, which is a sign that reserves are being tapped heavily. The continuous depletion of the Jing and kidney energy diminishes sex-drive in both men and women. In some cases of over consumption, erectile dysfunction (ED) has been noted in men as early as their twenties.

Lastly, vaporizers are gaining much momentum, but are just as bad as it takes Jing and uses it the same way that regular cannabis smoke does.


Other Issues
Cannabis has a cooling effect over time; it stimulates the liver yang in the beginning, but it depletes it in the long run, so the net effect is cooling, which the body counteracts by producing heat. Thus, women who overuse cannabis might find themselves suffering from hot flashes, similar to that of a pre-menopausal woman. A combination of birth control pills and cannabis has created one of the worst female reproductive health issues of all time with a surge of ovarian cysts, fibroids and dysmenorrhea. Additionally, as stated above, the continuous depletion of the Jing, or kidney energy, diminishes sex-drive."

Source

 

[DarkPagan666]

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Excellent! Thank you so much for this!

 

[Dark Blue Eye]

All this thing with marijuana is so simple. Why someone will bother even thinking about consume it when it's such a controversial subject. F*ck those possible benefits wich will never be miraculous and other variants like hemp will never worth a thing either

 

[Jjkillerxx]

And also, hemp is one of the 50 fundamental herbs in Chinese Traditional Medicine.

I think you are right about Hemp 100% it feels almost ridiculous that people are arguing with you from a religious community that promotes self indulgence and individual freedom. Just because one doesn't agree that it can't be medically beneficial doesn't mean that it's not. Even alcohol has medical benefits. But let's just all assume it doesn't, who are we to judge others for such a simple act of indulgence.

 

[High Priestess Lydia Coventina]

I knew 2 people, both were incredibly talented, we are talking super-star talented. One was highly talented in multiple areas, had all sorts of trophies from competitions.

Both got into marijuana in their teens (one was late teens, the other was early teens).

Both killed their passion and desire to take their talents to a higher level. The younger one got mental illness from it (doctors confirmed it was from weed, it caused holes in his brain).

Marijuana is very yin-heavy and kills the drive to succeed, this has been confirmed by others here too.

 

[Serbon]

" post_id=382626 time=1661065003 user_id=57]
I knew 2 people, both were incredibly talented, we are talking super-star talented. One was highly talented in multiple areas, had all sorts of trophies from competitions.

Both got into marijuana in their teens (one was late teens, the other was early teens).

Both killed their passion and desire to take their talents to a higher level. The younger one got mental illness from it (doctors confirmed it was from weed, it caused holes in his brain).

Marijuana is very yin-heavy and kills the drive to succeed, this has been confirmed by others here too.

They were using some very bad sorts of marijuana with THC. Lydia, hemp has no THC in it (or some very very small amount). Of course you shouldn't use it in large amounts, but in normal amounts. Everything used in big amounts can be harmful. As I also said before, you even have hemp used in Chinese Traditional Medicine.

 

[Serbon]

" post_id=382471 time=1661005704 user_id=21286]

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Yes, there are many uses for herbs and foods in medicine. Hemp is but only one of them.

In regards to Marijuana itself, this is not useful in the slightest, not in any medical sense.

"Let's take a look at how cannabis affects the elements of the body. Using cannabis takes Jing and rapidly turns it into Qi and Shen, thus you lose a lot of essence over time, since you're body is releasing Jing faster than the body can assimilate it. This would be similar to going to college with a large trust fund only to overspend it and find yourself pennyless after a mere two years into your four-year degree. Over spending your allotted Jing makes one understand why people who consume a lot of drugs might look like they are aging faster than is normal.


Wood Disharmony
Cannabis users are many times the deepest visionaries of society. They want to be in deep alignment with their spirit and shine bright into the world. The liver is the General and Force of Direction. The impact on liver yang is that in the short term, there is a creativity and expanded visionary process. Longer term, there is a weakened visionary process and inability to take action. When the liver, an emotional organ, gets upset, red eyes, irritability and depression set in. Women have a disruption in menses with worsened PMS symptoms.


Fire Ablaze
In Chinese, the word for "heart" (hsin) is also used to denote "mind." The Shen resides in the heart, and as one sleeps, blood goes into the heart and calms the Shen. Upon awakening, they feel refreshed. When cannabis goes into fire of the heart, it might seem innocuous at first. While awake, sudden flashes of anger arise and paranoia sets in. Without a strong Shen, one seems "lost" and sleep becomes restless and disturbed with nightmares and heart palpitations.


Earth Scorched
When fire scorches the earth, the yin of earth gets depleted, and the body has similar symptoms of hypoglycaemia; blood sugar drops and the appetite is constantly hungry. If one is not in touch with what nourishes them, then they will eat random things, and might gain weight. Women will be prone to yeast and bladder infections because of the dampness from accumulated sugars eaten.


Metal, Too Weak To Cut
Cannabis affects the lungs, skin and immunity. Specific symptomology are: the lungs and skin get dry and there will be deep red-hot pimples on the large intestine meridians on the face (around the mouth) and chest/upper back area surrounding the lungs. There is typically a chronic cough with mucus. Long term, there might be asthma/eczema or random staph infections. Regular cannabis smokers have respiratory issues such as lung qi deficiency with heat (sometimes producing little yellow phlegm nuggets in the mornings).


Water Depleted
By tapping into the water of the kidneys, the Jing is depleted. There is fire from the heart meridian and vision from the liver, but not enough energy to produce a result. Long-term users might suffer from lower back achiness, which is a sign that reserves are being tapped heavily. The continuous depletion of the Jing and kidney energy diminishes sex-drive in both men and women. In some cases of over consumption, erectile dysfunction (ED) has been noted in men as early as their twenties.

Lastly, vaporizers are gaining much momentum, but are just as bad as it takes Jing and uses it the same way that regular cannabis smoke does.


Other Issues
Cannabis has a cooling effect over time; it stimulates the liver yang in the beginning, but it depletes it in the long run, so the net effect is cooling, which the body counteracts by producing heat. Thus, women who overuse cannabis might find themselves suffering from hot flashes, similar to that of a pre-menopausal woman. A combination of birth control pills and cannabis has created one of the worst female reproductive health issues of all time with a surge of ovarian cysts, fibroids and dysmenorrhea. Additionally, as stated above, the continuous depletion of the Jing, or kidney energy, diminishes sex-drive."

Source

Doesn't this article talk about overuse of it?

 

[Demonic]

" post_id=382626 time=1661065003 user_id=57]
I knew 2 people, both were incredibly talented, we are talking super-star talented. One was highly talented in multiple areas, had all sorts of trophies from competitions.

Both got into marijuana in their teens (one was late teens, the other was early teens).

Both killed their passion and desire to take their talents to a higher level. The younger one got mental illness from it (doctors confirmed it was from weed, it caused holes in his brain).

Marijuana is very yin-heavy and kills the drive to succeed, this has been confirmed by others here too.

Yes, i had a friend (hes still alive, just not friends with me anymore). He too got into marijuana.

For a month or two nothing happened, but then i would always feel his aura really weak and he had this “lazy” and demotivating/self destructing vibes.

His memory also got severely effected, to the point where he wont even remember when i talked to him about something we did or somewhere we went just a month ago.

He lost his hair(and no he was not old), dropped all the goals and gave up on all the desire and motivation to do something in life, he looks almost a decade older than he is.

I tried explaining him the negative effects of it just when he started told him to do yoga and start exercising, that will get his will power going,he didnt listen. When i felt he has gone too far to be saved i stopped talking to him.

Anything that messes with bio-electricity of brain in any way is a huge no.

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

CBD doesn’t do shit I’ve taken 7 gummies in the past 24 hours literally no difference mental physical nothing.

 

[NinRick]

And also, hemp is one of the 50 fundamental herbs in Chinese Traditional Medicine.

I think you are right about Hemp 100% it feels almost ridiculous that people are arguing with you from a religious community that promotes self indulgence and individual freedom. Just because one doesn't agree that it can't be medically beneficial doesn't mean that it's not. Even alcohol has medical benefits. But let's just all assume it doesn't, who are we to judge others for such a simple act of indulgence.

Everyone brought arguments that it is bad for you to smoke weed. It really does more harm than good.
Speaking of experience here.

You can do whatever, you are a free human. Just know that this is detrimental for you.

 

[Head Guardian Blitzkreig]

Doesn't this article talk about overuse of it?

No, these are the basic properties.

Usually, when TCM describes the properties of something, it gives the basic properties. Of course, you can extrapolate how an abuse of something can hurt something in the body, based on this.

In this case of Marijuana, however, it proves how the majority of "positive effects" are actually negative. For example, over-consumption of Ginger can lead to an excess of dispersing factors in the body, but Ginger would not just blatantly destroy your Jing and give you stomach heat, as immediately occurs from Marijuana.

Someone could also make the claim that current forms of Marijuana are much higher in potency than before, already hitting this "danger zone". If your solution is then to go back and get a minuscule amount for "safe" use, then that should prove how it is simply not effective.

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Although this is different from hemp, just know that the benefits of CBD/Hemp are not exactly surprising when looked at from a TCM view. It is an herb that has yin properties. All the problems which it solves are yin-deficiency related.

While CBD/Hemp is less dangerous than MJ, proponents will abuse this to shove MJ alongside them as "safe". In reality, there is nothing super special about CBD/Hemp, just as I wouldn't call Ginger a "super food" because it does many things.

If you wish to have a safe form of a Yin supplement, look at something like this: https://www.activeherb.com/liuwei/
You can also see many other examples of herbal formulas on that site.

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In regards to the illegality of it, this seems to be originally enforced by the conservative culture of the time. However, one can also point to the suppression of holistic medicine, which was sufficiently oppressed without widespread legal obstacles. It was never illegal to possess other medicinal herbs, yet the market for treatment by them was destroyed due to disinfo campaigns.

Likewise, cocaine, heroine, alcohol, and other drugs went through legal battles, yet are still mainly destructive influences on society, regardless of legal status. If they become decriminalized, we are still obligated to advocate against their use. Instead, we can point to yang-building herbs, rather than allow someone to self-treat their lethargy with cocaine.

 

[Head Guardian Blitzkreig]

I think you are right about Hemp 100% it feels almost ridiculous that people are arguing with you from a religious community that promotes self indulgence and individual freedom. Just because one doesn't agree that it can't be medically beneficial doesn't mean that it's not. Even alcohol has medical benefits. But let's just all assume it doesn't, who are we to judge others for such a simple act of indulgence.

Indulgence also has degrees of beneficence, relative to what you are consuming. All forms of modern entertainment abuse your dopamine system, for example. Yet, I am sure the Gods enjoy entertainment which is safer, yet even more enjoyable than what we have today.

Despite recognition of individual freedom, we must also recognize how we are interconnected and interdependent on one another. If my neighbors decide to metaphorically bash their head into a wall, then I am left in a subpar condition, unable to rely on them for services which I may need.

Not all actions deserve the consent and support of others. Even in the realm of entertainment, we should not accept the awful standard that any form of fun comes with a degree of damage to the body, such as that from video games, candy, or drugs.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Hemp consumption is not "drug use".

You talk about physical effects it has on the body. You talk about mental effects with mood, emotions, and sleep schedule all being affected.

Does it do these things or does it not do anything? Because this is the definition of a psychoactive drug. So you can't promote it by saying possible benefits that the drug does, and then at the same time also pretend that it isn't a drug.

Don't be dishonest.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

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In regards to the illegality of it, this seems to be originally enforced by the conservative culture of the time. However, one can also point to the suppression of holistic medicine, which was sufficiently oppressed without widespread legal obstacles. It was never illegal to possess other medicinal herbs, yet the market for treatment by them was destroyed due to disinfo campaigns.

There was corruption with making hemp illegal. And none of it had to do with drugs because nobody in America in that time knew about smoking or consuming hemp. Hemp is a miraculous building material and it was used for hundreds of years to make very strong ropes, fabric, and paper. And can also be used to make plastic. And in America, this is what it was used for so it was a very important and expensive crop to grow to be used in many industries. Nobody was smoking it because they were all smoking tobacco instead.

And there was some family paper company that was cutting down trees to make paper. And this was one of the richest families in the country at that time. And this family worked to bribe congressmen and get them to vote to make hemp illegal because hemp would put this company out of business. Hemp makes a much stronger paper than wood, and it is much cheaper and easier to grow. So if there was real fair market competition, the company would lose everything.

It wasn't made illegal to try to suppress use of a natural medicine, or anything like that. Nobody in America even knew about using it for any medical reasons or consuming it. It is not natural in this country and it was originally imported from Asia. So that is why in Asia they have talked for hundreds of years about what it does to your body when consuming it. But Europeans only saw it to be an industrial material.

 

[FancyMancy]

Things that leave people fried and dead like Fentanyl etc will be banished from this world.

I decided to do a quick Internet search for fentanyl, and at the top of the page is news, and the very first result from 5 hours ago is Epic Research: Only 5% of Overdose Patients Tested for Fentanyl, #1 Killer of Americans 18-45. Another from also 5 hours ago is Greenville County Detention Center deaths: Men found dead suffered from fentanyl toxicity. (There are other recent articles, like from 20 minutes to a few hours ago, regarding crimes related to fentanyl.) I bet substances, more accurately items on the period table, can be used for other things which we don't know or are not "allowed" to know. The use of substances like this can either be a good thing, if researched into it properly and administered properly, or can not be good so would need to be left alone altogether. Either way, we won't need drugs and medicinal/Magickal herbs one day, surely.

 

[Lucius Invictus [NG]]

CBD oil seemed like nothing but a health fad to me from the start when I heard it being talked about by family, friends, and online. Some tried to promote it to me if I recall, and I never tried it. I never had any interest, and it seemed really stupid to me. Better to spend money on a Yoga membership or physical therapy for those who are in so much distress that they believe they need CBD oil. Isn't it the same idea as weed? Numbing someone out. Numbing something doesn't remove the problem, and the pain is there for a reason. Weed numbs the mind, and CBD oil numbs the body... is that it?

There are two different chemicals in Marijuana. One is THC which is psycho active, and the other is CBD with is "allegedly" non-psycho active. They work by binding to your own endocannabinoid system; which if I remember, NakedPluto said can be activated naturally by the working on the fourth chakra without the draw backs. The whole mind and body thing has to do with two different types of weed, one is Indica (Body High) and the other is Sativa (Head High), and there are also hybrids now.

Either way, it is acutely and chronically one of the worst things you can do to yourself.

 

[Priest - Alexandros Iowno]

CBD oil seemed like nothing but a health fad to me from the start when I heard it being talked about by family, friends, and online. Some tried to promote it to me if I recall, and I never tried it. I never had any interest, and it seemed really stupid to me. Better to spend money on a Yoga membership or physical therapy for those who are in so much distress that they believe they need CBD oil. Isn't it the same idea as weed? Numbing someone out. Numbing something doesn't remove the problem, and the pain is there for a reason. Weed numbs the mind, and CBD oil numbs the body... is that it?

There are two different chemicals in Marijuana. One is THC which is psycho active, and the other is CBD with is "allegedly" non-psycho active. They work by binding to your own endocannabinoid system; which if I remember, NakedPluto said can be activated naturally by the working on the fourth chakra without the draw backs. The whole mind and body thing has to do with two different types of weed, one is Indica (Body High) and the other is Sativa (Head High), and there are also hybrids now.

Either way, it is acutely and chronically one of the worst things you can do to yourself.

Also Thc on its own has a very different effect on the body, and people do not know that in reality is just a few percent of the whole "high" people want from recreational use. The true "recreational", in the more appropriate meaning of the word, are the other chemicals in the plant including CBD. So just by taking out the THC from this does not change the nature of the drug from recreational to not recreational. Ironically the opposite would be true, but since they cannot promote anything of high volume regarding THC as medicinal, they focus on butchering the chemicals from the hemp and promote recreational use.

CBD is definitely psychoactive but not in the definition of those who do drugs as they cannot asses their tolerant body to a satisfaction of sorts. The nature of a psychoactive substance is within altering the "mood" and the perception of the body, which with these chemicals it happens in a direct way and also messes with the basis of our brain functions. Sleeping, eating, pain, pleasure etc.

THC binds violently on the receptors and it is the incapacity of the body to waste this perceived toxin out of the body that creates the "stoning" effect. The other chemicals act to balance the bodies response in a way.

If you are educated on the above, in the proper need and with the proper reasoning behind this, yes this can be used (hemp), as with anything in this world, anything can be used positively. But it is not a specialty, not a cure, not a wonder of the nature. Sage is more healing by far to any other ailment than this, for example.

It is good that you overcome this, I am very happy to hear that. Now look at it maturely, you can educate others. You will definitely have no real damage since you are young. The body is a wonderful and very capable system, it heals and the mind heals. Do not focus on the past mistakes and focus on what you can excel now that you are so much more mature and capable, and with life experience of this kind.

 

[Head Guardian Blitzkreig]

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The main point here is that there are many safe alternatives to these products. Hemp is probably fine, CBD is perhaps questionable, as NakedPluto has described, and Marijuana itself is destructive. Yet, there are many other herbs who can provide these same benefits, and more. There is no reason to try to defend these things to any extreme amount.

Yet, I hope you have learned something, and do not feel attacked or alienated from JoS. To be fair, this may be hard to do considering all of the replies towards you. In reality, this is due to people being upset at what they consider an affront to their beliefs, and a loss of one of their own.

I don't want you to feel lonely, but I did wish to give you additional insight on these items. Besides everything that happened, I do wish for your continued presence on JoS. This is just a minor upset and nothing more.

 

[Soaring Eagle 666]

I did a little research, and it turns out that CBD and THC are so similar chemically, that all it takes is a strong acid (like in the stomach) to turn CBD into THC.

Notice how the molecular formula is the same: C₂₁H₃₀O₂

The only difference is that the hydroxide (HO) on the CBD is detached, but on THC it is connected to form a third ring.

Because a fully-connected ring has lower potential energy, CBD wants to be like that. CBD is like a ball on a table. Given the chance, it will fall to the ground (convert to THC). All that's needed is to give it a little push to the edge, which is called activation energy, and is provided by acid in this case.

This is easy in test tubes, but studies are inconsistent regarding the human stomach. The conversion ratio varies from 2% to 80%. Many "experts" like to choose the lower end and say that, "no, CBD doesn't convert to THC in the stomach." However, this is false. 2% is NOT ZERO! 2% is small enough that you probably won't get high from it, but the fact remains:
If you eat CBD, you will be exposed to THC.
And THC is psychoactive in any amount, and has been shown to cause developmental problems in children and teens, even from low-level exposure over a long time.