Having children

[xlnt]

Leonardo Da Vinci never had kids. Nor did Nikola Tesla. Two geniuses who's genes really should have been worth living on. Maybe they felt satisfied leaving their legacy behind instead of kids who knows.

Some people believe it's the meaning of life to have children. I do not agree since with that logic my own life would have been completely meaningless if I die without children. I do however understand that people want to have children and experience parenthood but I don't think it's for everyone. It feels like soceity wants us to reproduce in various ways.

The "biological clock" which is ticking only exists because of our short lifespan as I see it. If we had eternal life's we could wait forever until the perfect partner shows up and the time is right for it. That would be better instead of panicking for it at the age of 40. Some people have children just to fill up their empty life's with something.
Personally I don't know if I have this ambition. There is so much more to life than being a parent. The world is also overpopulated. The dilemma here though is that white people should have more kids, and I'm white.

What's your thoughts? Is parenthood and passing on the genes to the next generation at the core of life like some people argue? I think not.

 

[Aquarius]

Leonardo Da Vinci never had kids. Nor did Nikola Tesla. Two geniuses who's genes really should have been worth living on. Maybe they felt satisfied leaving their legacy behind instead of kids who knows.

Some people believe it's the meaning of life to have children. I do not agree since with that logic my own life would have been completely meaningless if I die without children. I do however understand that people want to have children and experience parenthood but I don't think it's for everyone. It feels like soceity wants us to reproduce in various ways.

The "biological clock" which is ticking only exists because of our short lifespan as I see it. If we had eternal life's we could wait forever until the perfect partner shows up and the time is right for it. That would be better instead of panicking for it at the age of 40. Some people have children just to fill up their empty life's with something.
Personally I don't know if I have this ambition. There is so much more to life than being a parent. The world is also overpopulated. The dilemma here though is that white people should have more kids, and I'm white.

What's your thoughts? Is parenthood and passing on the genes to the next generation at the core of life like some people argue? I think not.

Remove your fucking personal information, it's like you drawn a fucking target on your face.

 

[Rumpl]

I will say that for me being a parent is not all of the end all so to speak. My partner and I split and I now never see my son, I am happier being by myself. Not sure if this makes me a bad parent or not, but I know that if my son's mother came to my door it would not be a pretty site as all she does is run me down to who ever will listen. That being said I do love my son.

 

[Kurat]

Having children is your choice, all people do not find partner. But it is ideal what all heterosexual people seek. Do you think that Satan created sexuality just for fun. And demographic war is war like spiritual war or propaganda war. Look how many children christian or islamic radicals have, do you want satanist be on losers side.

Ok, you do not find partner, but why you must promote it.

Like other topics.

"Hello! New femboy here"

"What satanist think on furries"

"Is cuckolding ok"

"Look at me, I am so different"

 

[TheHealingFields666]

It truly is the meaning of life along with spirituality. How could human civilizations have lasted long without family values which stemmed from having children and raising them?

The feeling of joy one receives when touching their first child is described as the ultimate "high" and beats any other feeling. By having children, you biologically have fulfilled your goal and you are set to think that your genes will pass on to the next generation.

With that being said: I, too, think having children, while great, could more than likely backfire. Mainstream media pushing lies and degeneracy everywhere for children to consume and the State having access to your children at any time is totally absurd. I can't fathom the idea of having a daughter or a son succumbing to this degeneracy, and one might say: "Well if you raise them right then they won't turn out to be degenerates", and you would be right, but to do so would mean you have to homeschool your children which in some countries is illegal (schools literally brainwash your children), and you will also have to avoid city life as it will impact them socially & psychologically.

If I had the means to have a child with a beautiful, sane and feminine woman unlike those unattractive 'feminist' types that have been on so much birth control their hormones are outta whack and their bodies hardly resemble that of a fertile female, then yes, I would go for it.

I also urge everyone to get a psychological checkup before intending on starting a family. You can't help raise a family when you yourself have mental problems.

 

[xlnt]

Remove your fucking personal information, it's like you drawn a fucking target on your face.

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Anyways nice to get some feedback with these different opinions here. I've heard from so many people to NOT have kids since the world is so crappy and that kids are a pain in the ass. I've also seen and experienced many people who have kids and are deeply unhappy. Not a single bit of happiness in their face etc.

As someone mentioned it's also difficult to protect ones children from all of the indoctrination coming from school, media and religion which deceives humanity day after day. But I don't say I will never have kids. It just has to be with the right woman and feel right. If this never occurs I don't see it as a catastrophe. Death itself is and I really wish I could accomplish the MO since I love life. And I love life much thanks to JoS and what it has taught me. It has made me stronger than ever.

Having a child who dies before you do would feel extremely sad though. My mother had a friend who's son hanged himself in college. That must be way shitty.

 

[Aquarius]

Mainstream media pushing lies and degeneracy everywhere for children to consume and the State having access to your children at any time is totally absurd. I can't fathom the idea of having a daughter or a son succumbing to this degeneracy, and one might say: "Well if you raise them right then they won't turn out to be degenerates", and you would be right, but to do so would mean you have to homeschool your children which in some countries is illegal (schools literally brainwash your children), and you will also have to avoid city life as it will impact them socially & psychologically.

Excuses and excuses. Illegal to homeschool in your country? Emigrate. "But it's too difficult to emigrate!", are you running away from difficult things?
And as for city life, even though I despise it, it's not shocking or damaging psychologically, simply the kiddos are not gonna get used to nature, which is actually terrible, but not a mental problem.

 

[Henu the Great]

What's your thoughts? Is parenthood and passing on the genes to the next generation at the core of life like some people argue? I think not.

It's on everyones natal chart whether they will or will not have children, also when.

Only beyond advanced beings, that is risen serpent and above are able to change their destiny with seemingly little effort compared to those with less power/abilities.

For example if your chart says "no children", it would require enormous amount of workings (essentially energy) to manifest parenthood in a positive and healthy way.

Children and parenting is the core of humanity, and very essential indeed. However not everyone will do this for multitude of reasons. I remember reading that you are into sex dolls and treat them equal to humans, so your current stance is very much understandable. It's not healthy approach by any means, but it is what it is.

 

[xlnt]

Children and parenting is the core of humanity, and very essential indeed. However not everyone will do this for multitude of reasons.

It's something living beings strive for yes and it can fullfill life but I would not say it's the raw meaning of life. Life itself is it's on goal and parenting is a goal in life but not the pure meaning. That is how I see it anyway. I do understand that it really can mean a lot to have a family so I'm not arguing against that. But there are those who have kids and are deeply unhappy aswell as those without kids who are happy with themselves. Working on your soul with constant meditation, yoga etc. is a bit more important I think.

I remember reading that you are into sex dolls and treat them equal to humans, so your current stance is very much understandable. It's not healthy approach by any means, but it is what it is.

Not true. I'm more into sex dolls than prostitution and that was what the thread I was trying to create was all about. That doesn't mean I think dolls are human. Why would I think that? Prostitutes on the other hand are real humans with a soul who have sex with men in exchange for money. If a doll somehow harms a man, what harm does a man cause a real woman who's body is being used as a doll basicly for cash? Or being a target for some "pump and dump" game for that matter. Please also provide evidence for your claims. I've thus fas seen none. Also, pornography must be way worse. An industry thriving on mens sexual frustration. Anyway this is really offtopic but I just wanted to answer this.

One thing I would like to know though is how HPS Pythia views are on sexdolls and sextoys for both men and women. Totally unatural and should be avoided? If that's the case I might consider it but it also has to be backed up by facts and not just someone's based opinion. Also if someone know's he/she is right about something then it's not at all necessary to have this extremely aggressive tone I've seen here. I don't personally claim to be absolutely right. Just wanted a debate about this topic but it ended up in personal attacks.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Having children may not be "the meaning of life", but it biologically is the meaningful thing in life. It is also a meaningful thing compared to the idle worthless stuff generations pursue.

Most people burn their time and existence into literal nothing anymore and they think they are smart for doing so, which is totally retarded.

The world being overpopulated is a subject each individual Nation especially those in the 3rd world have to manage. Overpopulation didn't happen in Europe nor in the United States, nor even Russia.

Satanists have crystal clear aims to start a family, considering the sacred and holy knowledge we possess. The benefits of family for those who want to do this will be great if done properly, but there will be challenges.

 

[NinRick]

Having children may not be "the meaning of life", but it biologically is the meaningful thing in life. It is also a meaningful thing compared to the idle worthless stuff generations pursue.

Most people burn their time and existence into literal nothing anymore and they think they are smart for doing so, which is totally retarded.

The world being overpopulated is a subject each individual Nation especially those in the 3rd world have to manage. Overpopulation didn't happen in Europe nor in the United States, nor even Russia.

Satanists have crystal clear aims to start a family, considering the sacred and holy knowledge we possess. The benefits of family for those who want to do this will be great if done properly, but there will be challenges.

Word. Utter and complete truth of the matter.

 

[Henu the Great]

It's something living beings strive for yes and it can fullfill life but I would not say it's the raw meaning of life. Life itself is it's on goal and parenting is a goal in life but not the pure meaning. That is how I see it anyway. I do understand that it really can mean a lot to have a family so I'm not arguing against that. But there are those who have kids and are deeply unhappy aswell as those without kids who are happy with themselves. Working on your soul with constant meditation, yoga etc. is a bit more important I think.

HC replied about this matter very well so check it out.

Not true. I'm more into sex dolls than prostitution and that was what the thread I was trying to create was all about. That doesn't mean I think dolls are human. Why would I think that? Prostitutes on the other hand are real humans with a soul who have sex with men in exchange for money. If a doll somehow harms a man, what harm does a man cause a real woman who's body is being used as a doll basicly for cash? Or being a target for some "pump and dump" game for that matter. Please also provide evidence for your claims. I've thus fas seen none. Also, pornography must be way worse. An industry thriving on mens sexual frustration. Anyway this is really offtopic but I just wanted to answer this.

Okay then.

Look at the matter other way around. The penis goes into vagina, that's natural. When there is artificial penis or vagina something is a miss. That is the human connection that is missing. The state of the world being what it is currently prostitution (as with everything else that we do) is not at the ideal state, not even on "good state", but there is connection and I would say that is better than other options.

One thing I would like to know though is how HPS Pythia views are on sexdolls and sextoys for both men and women. Totally unatural and should be avoided? If that's the case I might consider it but it also has to be backed up by facts and not just someone's based opinion. Also if someone know's he/she is right about something then it's not at all necessary to have this extremely aggressive tone I've seen here. I don't personally claim to be absolutely right. Just wanted a debate about this topic but it ended up in personal attacks.

Toys are ok as far as I know, but a partner is always better and always will be a better option.

I hope I did not 'attack' you. I have fiery way approaching communication and it most likely offsets some people. I mean no personal harm to anyone. I'm working hard on this.

 

[Henu the Great]

It's on everyones natal chart whether they will or will not have children, also when.

How would one go about reading this? Also, how does this work when people are in a relationship, considering there would be two natal charts instead of one?

I'm not knowleadgeable enough on that subject, but there are many other Zevism personnel who know more about that. All I can say with certainty that it's a map of your soul and very deep knowledge is required for full understanding. It's like peeling an onion in some regards - as your knowledge increases you'll see more details. For two persons the synastry would have to be checked out.

If you have a specific question I suggest you to open a topic on astro section. You can always self learn by going into Azazels astro and reading through it all, and after that or during that also use other sources to fill in the blanks so to speak.

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

It's on everyones natal chart whether they will or will not have children, also when.

How would one go about reading this? Also, how does this work when people are in a relationship, considering there would be two natal charts instead of one?

I'm not knowleadgeable enough on that subject, but there are many other Zevism personnel who know more about that. All I can say with certainty that it's a map of your soul and very deep knowledge is required for full understanding. It's like peeling an onion in some regards - as your knowledge increases you'll see more details. For two persons the synastry would have to be checked out.

If you have a specific question I suggest you to open a topic on astro section. You can always self learn by going into Azazels astro and reading through it all, and after that or during that also use other sources to fill in the blanks so to speak.

I believe saturn or pluto in the 5th house can deter one from being able to concieve or to even want children.

 

[Henu the Great]

However, the way you worded your initial claim seems odd to me. If you actually know a person, then you could look into their future while using their natal chart as a guide to make predictions about whether or not they will have children; but does that mean it says "on their natal chart", or is that just your own divination based on what kind of person they are and their circumstances?
Not to mention the matter of free will; there were several negative things in my chart that gave me a lot of trouble, but over the years I've overcome pretty much all of them. So long as you do not give in to the negative energy, you can choose your own fate. That includes whether or not you have children, as well.

Maybe because I'm not as good writer as I could be, hah!

Of course there is free will. However for those without, the chart is pretty much your life set in stone. For us on the other hand, we can influence the happenings to varying degree.

Did I misunderstand what you meant?

Nah, that's pretty much it.

I believe saturn or pluto in the 5th house can deter one from being able to concieve or to even want children.

It can be so. I have Saturn in the fifth and altough children are nice, I most likely won't have them.

I could work on this aspect, but do I want to to? Every time I even think about it the energy tells me the idea is not compatible. However, it is possible.

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

However, the way you worded your initial claim seems odd to me. If you actually know a person, then you could look into their future while using their natal chart as a guide to make predictions about whether or not they will have children; but does that mean it says "on their natal chart", or is that just your own divination based on what kind of person they are and their circumstances?
Not to mention the matter of free will; there were several negative things in my chart that gave me a lot of trouble, but over the years I've overcome pretty much all of them. So long as you do not give in to the negative energy, you can choose your own fate. That includes whether or not you have children, as well.

Maybe because I'm not as good writer as I could be, hah!

Of course there is free will. However for those without, the chart is pretty much your life set in stone. For us on the other hand, we can influence the happenings to varying degree.

Did I misunderstand what you meant?

Nah, that's pretty much it.

I believe saturn or pluto in the 5th house can deter one from being able to concieve or to even want children.

It can be so. I have Saturn in the fifth and altough children are nice, I most likely won't have them.

I could work on this aspect, but do I want to to? Every time I even think about it the energy tells me the idea is not compatible. However, it is possible.

Pluto in the 5th also can make for an overly strict abusive parent.

 

[Powstanie Pogańskie]

However, the way you worded your initial claim seems odd to me. If you actually know a person, then you could look into their future while using their natal chart as a guide to make predictions about whether or not they will have children; but does that mean it says "on their natal chart", or is that just your own divination based on what kind of person they are and their circumstances?
Not to mention the matter of free will; there were several negative things in my chart that gave me a lot of trouble, but over the years I've overcome pretty much all of them. So long as you do not give in to the negative energy, you can choose your own fate. That includes whether or not you have children, as well.

Maybe because I'm not as good writer as I could be, hah!

Of course there is free will. However for those without, the chart is pretty much your life set in stone. For us on the other hand, we can influence the happenings to varying degree.

Did I misunderstand what you meant?

Nah, that's pretty much it.

I believe saturn or pluto in the 5th house can deter one from being able to concieve or to even want children.

It can be so. I have Saturn in the fifth and altough children are nice, I most likely won't have them.

I could work on this aspect, but do I want to to? Every time I even think about it the energy tells me the idea is not compatible. However, it is possible.

I have a somewhat similar thing going on where I'm as gay as all get out in terms of sexual attraction, but I do have a heavy Cancer emphasis and my 5th House with Cancer on the cusp. Consequently, even though I don't like being around kids when they're loud or when I have to feign interest in something they find interesting, I do exhibit this particularly strong, maternal nature around them and enjoy taking care of children. I also really like teaching them things, I've discovered. It would thus seem then by my natal chart alone that I could be someone that enjoys parenting - provided that a number of my less happy placements are healthily sublimated beforehand. Given however that this isn't the path for me, I've considered other ways in which my future career goals could help children, either through education or creating societal conditions that make it easier for others to raise their children. In this way, I can actualize my natal chart's tendencies on this matter in a way that's harmonious with the rest of me.

 

[xlnt]

You literally asked if you could make thoughtforms to put into dolls mate, don't pretend you don't have problems.

Huh? :lol:

 

[xlnt]

This thread is about having children so let's keep it that way. I really appreciate all the answers (the serious ones at least).

Those of you who have children; how has it changed your life? and how do you keep them away from bad infuences? School and media indoctrination must be a major challenge.

 

[xlnt]

Mr. Jack you don't know jack shit about me or my life so plase shut it. Thank you. Now back to the subject.

 

[Jack]

Mr. Jack you don't know jack shit about me or my life so plase shut it. Thank you. Now back to the subject.

Its normal for defense mechanisms to spring up as you are confronted with a stark sample of reality, but you have to realize at some point you will have to confront reality rather than living in denial. Unless you admit weakness, you can never be strong. That is the truth of your current existence. You are weak and to become strong, mentally, spiritually and psychologically you have to acknowledge that weakness, let go of your defense mechanisms and limitations and change for good.

Until you let go of your mental defense mechanisms that are preventing you from taking responsibility, you will never become a man. That's the hard truth of life. I've been very generous in replying to you and i expect resistance from your mind like i see with most ideological people who are losers ,but i know that in time you are going to become so distraught that you are going to come back to realize and acknowledge whatever it is i am saying to you now, and acknowledge that I was right. So it's better to do it now.

Or don't no one cares about yourself really than you yourself. We don't live in an utopian society and we have free choice. If you choose to suffer, then that is your choice.

 

[xlnt]

Mr. Jack you don't know jack shit about me or my life so plase shut it. Thank you. Now back to the subject.

Its normal for defense mechanisms to spring up as you are confronted with a stark sample of reality, but you have to realize at some point you will have to confront reality rather than living in denial. Unless you admit weakness, you can never be strong. That is the truth of your current existence. You are weak and to become strong, mentally, spiritually and psychologically you have to acknowledge that weakness, let go of your defense mechanisms and limitations and change for good.

Until you let go of your mental defense mechanisms that are preventing you from taking responsibility, you will never become a man. That's the hard truth of life. I've been very generous in replying to you and i expect resistance from your mind like i see with most ideological people who are losers ,but i know that in time you are going to become so distraught that you are going to come back to realize and acknowledge whatever it is i am saying to you now, and acknowledge that I was right. So it's better to do it now.

Or don't no one cares about yourself really than you yourself. We don't live in an utopian society and we have free choice. If you choose to suffer, then that is your choice.

Ok but I don't think it's nice to say someone has serious psychological issues when you do not know me and we have not even met face to face, you see? That's just rude and totally unnecessary. Your saying I'm part of some weird cult etc. Lay off.

Now let's move on.

 

[Jack]

Mr. Jack you don't know jack shit about me or my life so plase shut it. Thank you. Now back to the subject.

Its normal for defense mechanisms to spring up as you are confronted with a stark sample of reality, but you have to realize at some point you will have to confront reality rather than living in denial. Unless you admit weakness, you can never be strong. That is the truth of your current existence. You are weak and to become strong, mentally, spiritually and psychologically you have to acknowledge that weakness, let go of your defense mechanisms and limitations and change for good.

Until you let go of your mental defense mechanisms that are preventing you from taking responsibility, you will never become a man. That's the hard truth of life. I've been very generous in replying to you and i expect resistance from your mind like i see with most ideological people who are losers ,but i know that in time you are going to become so distraught that you are going to come back to realize and acknowledge whatever it is i am saying to you now, and acknowledge that I was right. So it's better to do it now.

Or don't no one cares about yourself really than you yourself. We don't live in an utopian society and we have free choice. If you choose to suffer, then that is your choice.

Ok but I don't think it's nice to say someone has serious psychological issues when you do not know me and we have not even met face to face, you see? That's just rude and totally unnecessary. Your saying I'm part of some weird cult etc. Lay off.

Now let's move on.

You have serious psychological issues which is why you are talking about masturbating into a Robot. Im not being rude ,im being honest with you.

 

[xlnt]

Its normal for defense mechanisms to spring up as you are confronted with a stark sample of reality, but you have to realize at some point you will have to confront reality rather than living in denial. Unless you admit weakness, you can never be strong. That is the truth of your current existence. You are weak and to become strong, mentally, spiritually and psychologically you have to acknowledge that weakness, let go of your defense mechanisms and limitations and change for good.

Until you let go of your mental defense mechanisms that are preventing you from taking responsibility, you will never become a man. That's the hard truth of life. I've been very generous in replying to you and i expect resistance from your mind like i see with most ideological people who are losers ,but i know that in time you are going to become so distraught that you are going to come back to realize and acknowledge whatever it is i am saying to you now, and acknowledge that I was right. So it's better to do it now.

Or don't no one cares about yourself really than you yourself. We don't live in an utopian society and we have free choice. If you choose to suffer, then that is your choice.

Ok but I don't think it's nice to say someone has serious psychological issues when you do not know me and we have not even met face to face, you see? That's just rude and totally unnecessary. Your saying I'm part of some weird cult etc. Lay off.

Now let's move on.

You have serious psychological issues which is why you are talking about masturbating into a Robot. Im not being rude ,im being honest with you.

Lol ok how nice of you to say that when I just wanted opinions on sexdolls as concept compared to prostitution. Obviously most of you guys are against sexdolls I understand that now. A bit nicer tone would have been nice though. Cheers!

 

[Henu the Great]

Ok but I don't think it's nice to say someone has serious psychological issues when you do not know me and we have not even met face to face, you see? That's just rude and totally unnecessary. Your saying I'm part of some weird cult etc. Lay off.

Now let's move on.

It is in our best interest to embrace the momentarily emotional hurt instead of long term crippling effects.

Jack speaks the truth. Truth hurts, but lies kill. WIll you choose the momentarily hurt, or long term crippling?

 

[hailourtruegod]

Ahh dude I love you. You will most likely make a good parent.

I love children.
Let us bless this world with our children!

Ah shucks thank you Brother. And yes let's!

 

[xlnt]

Ok but I don't think it's nice to say someone has serious psychological issues when you do not know me and we have not even met face to face, you see? That's just rude and totally unnecessary. Your saying I'm part of some weird cult etc. Lay off.

Now let's move on.

It is in our best interest to embrace the momentarily emotional hurt instead of long term crippling effects.

Jack speaks the truth. Truth hurts, but lies kill. WIll you choose the momentarily hurt, or long term crippling?

Wether you believe me or not I actually hear what you are saying and will consider your thoughts. But nobody has to be that rude just because someone is just asking questions. I have personally not read anything bad about this concept of sexdolls before except on feminist-sites etc. Oh well please stop obsessing on dolls now

 

[Aquarius]

Ok but I don't think it's nice to say someone has serious psychological issues when you do not know me and we have not even met face to face, you see? That's just rude and totally unnecessary. Your saying I'm part of some weird cult etc. Lay off.

Now let's move on.

It is in our best interest to embrace the momentarily emotional hurt instead of long term crippling effects.

Jack speaks the truth. Truth hurts, but lies kill. WIll you choose the momentarily hurt, or long term crippling?

Wether you believe me or not I actually hear what you are saying and will consider your thoughts. But nobody has to be that rude just because someone is just asking questions. I have personally not read anything bad about this concept of sexdolls before except on feminist-sites etc. Oh well please stop obsessing on dolls now

Not the doll per se, rather the fact that you want to make a thoughtform that possesses the doll. You might aswell find a woman, or a prostitute.

 

[Henu the Great]

Wether you believe me or not I actually hear what you are saying and will consider your thoughts. But nobody has to be that rude just because someone is just asking questions. I have personally not read anything bad about this concept of sexdolls before except on feminist-sites etc. Oh well please stop obsessing on dolls now

He's being blunt about it, but to say it's rude is not completely accurate. If you think he was rude then I would call that over sensitivity, or just sensitivity to blunt approach on your part.

Anyway. If you apply critical thought into that concept you could come to realisation that it's not what we as a species are meant to do. Humans need humans, connection is a must for any healthy individual.