Glorious Victory By Hindus

[SageEight]

Jesus to Jai Shri Ram – 50 Christian Converts Brought Back to Dharma by Agniveer

http://agniveer.com/jesus-to-jai-shri-ram-50-christian-converts-brought-back-to-dharma-by-agniveer/

 

[Ài Gōng]

"If you are wondering what Lord Krishna said to him in his dreams, there were these magical words – ‘Even if from Satan, mother is mother. We don’t leave her‘. Shubham joined Agniveer soon when he read similar words at Agniveer by its founder Shri Sanjeev Newar. In his own words- “I got my answers from Agniveer. Lord Krishna commanded me to never leave Dharma."
Awesome, Hail Satan!

 

[Ài Gōng]

Current Hinduism is corrupt and toxic. Moving and converting from one religion infiltrated and controlled by the yehuborim into another identical religion is a confusion and deception for the Gentiles from the yehuborim.

That's kind of obvious and not relevand to the point being made here. The Gods aren't that limited as to not guide their people due circunstantial wrong takes on spirituality by humans. The fact that they still revere the Gods as family and refuse direct xtianty means a great win the spiritual battlegrounds, at least in my opinion, since they're closer to their Dharmic roots than people who direct worship abrahamic religions.

 

[ToZ Forum Contributions]

The problem in India is the caste system the lower castes leave to convert to Christianity because it offers them some sense of equality and respect in their mind the same with Buddhism and Islam. The caste system is mainly an economic structure from the previous times. People don't like to be held back. The other problem is within Hinduism much of the spiritual knowledge has been removed and replaced with Bhakti and Jainist-Buddhist moralism. So its already created a sympathetic tie into Christianity.

 

[Seby]

Some Greeks still worship the old Gods. I wonder how open they are.

 

[Jack]

The problem in India is the caste system the lower castes leave to convert to Christianity because it offers them some sense of equality and respect in their mind the same with Buddhism and Islam. The caste system is mainly an economic structure from the previous times. People don't like to be held back. The other problem is within Hinduism much of the spiritual knowledge has been removed and replaced with Bhakti and Jainist-Buddhist moralism. So its already created a sympathetic tie into Christianity.

The problem with the caste system is not with the religion but with the institutional legal caste discrimination not against lower castes but against upper castes. The RSS and other Hindutva organizations have been operating on the scheme of respecting the lower castes as brothers since 50 something years. Its completely invisible religion and culture wise in any city. The only place it's still somewhat visible Is the extreme rural societies. Because religion and spirituality is not that important to people in the cities nowadays. They literally don't GAF.

The problem comes when the child passes graduation and he gets into institutions based on his caste rankings in any entrance exam. The ranking system has a reservation policy (not like affirmative action) where 45-50% of the seats are reserved for the low castes regardless of social standing or economic background. What happens now is that these low castes compete only among themselves and not against the general castes, and have their own cut off criterion. So the seats that should be filled with merit are now filled according to caste, with visible mark differences. All this reservation shit is also availiable in all government and public sector jobs ,its ridiculous. Then they get massive state benefits in food, scholarships, free money, appliances, vehicles etc. Its literally inconceivable if you live in India. They have everything reserved. And the reason being that the population of these low castes are high so their vote count matters more. The entire lower class is being fed and kept alive by the tax of the middle class and upper class people where they are literally being fed and having their health and life insured and letting them open zero balance bank accounts which are state sponsored.

The root of the issue lies with caste being an integral criterion for recognition in any government institution. If the government wanted to eliminate caste problems they should first refuse to recognize caste as a identifier. Also the caste is only passed down through the paternal line. So if a high caste woman marries a low caste man, the child will become a low caste according to law and get all state benefits but the converse for state benefits is not true. If the Government refused to entertain caste distinctions the Hindutva people would effectively restructure all of society based on brotherhood and no one would feel socially vulnerable. All these low caste hype is generally capitalized on by Cultural Marxists in the Academia and the Media who have worked hard to paint the Upper castes as the enemies of the Low castes.

Moreover all of this religious inequality is being combated at an extreme level with the Hindutva group. The government simply refuses to do anything about this because they're afraid of losing votes. The inequality and injustice is also extremely overrated.
http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=807AFE24055A4266D00FA0B6B136B002

 

[Sunny]

The problem in India is the caste system the lower castes leave to convert to Christianity because it offers them some sense of equality and respect in their mind the same with Buddhism and Islam. The caste system is mainly an economic structure from the previous times. People don't like to be held back. The other problem is within Hinduism much of the spiritual knowledge has been removed and replaced with Bhakti and Jainist-Buddhist moralism. So its already created a sympathetic tie into Christianity.

Thank you Mageson for clearing that up.

 

[MalinBaze]

The problem in India is the caste system the lower castes leave to convert to Christianity because it offers them some sense of equality and respect in their mind the same with Buddhism and Islam. The caste system is mainly an economic structure from the previous times. People don't like to be held back. The other problem is within Hinduism much of the spiritual knowledge has been removed and replaced with Bhakti and Jainist-Buddhist moralism. So its already created a sympathetic tie into Christianity.

The problem with the caste system is not with the religion but with the institutional legal caste discrimination not against lower castes but against upper castes. The RSS and other Hindutva organizations have been operating on the scheme of respecting the lower castes as brothers since 50 something years. Its completely invisible religion and culture wise in any city. The only place it's still somewhat visible Is the extreme rural societies. Because religion and spirituality is not that important to people in the cities nowadays. They literally don't GAF.

The problem comes when the child passes graduation and he gets into institutions based on his caste rankings in any entrance exam. The ranking system has a reservation policy (not like affirmative action) where 45-50% of the seats are reserved for the low castes regardless of social standing or economic background. What happens now is that these low castes compete only among themselves and not against the general castes, and have their own cut off criterion. So the seats that should be filled with merit are now filled according to caste, with visible mark differences. All this reservation shit is also availiable in all government and public sector jobs ,its ridiculous. Then they get massive state benefits in food, scholarships, free money, appliances, vehicles etc. Its literally inconceivable if you live in India. They have everything reserved. And the reason being that the population of these low castes are high so their vote count matters more. The entire lower class is being fed and kept alive by the tax of the middle class and upper class people where they are literally being fed and having their health and life insured and letting them open zero balance bank accounts which are state sponsored.

The root of the issue lies with caste being an integral criterion for recognition in any government institution. If the government wanted to eliminate caste problems they should first refuse to recognize caste as a identifier. Also the caste is only passed down through the paternal line. So if a high caste woman marries a low caste man, the child will become a low caste according to law and get all state benefits but the converse for state benefits is not true. If the Government refused to entertain caste distinctions the Hindutva people would effectively restructure all of society based on brotherhood and no one would feel socially vulnerable. All these low caste hype is generally capitalized on by Cultural Marxists in the Academia and the Media who have worked hard to paint the Upper castes as the enemies of the Low castes.

Moreover all of this religious inequality is being combated at an extreme level with the Hindutva group. The government simply refuses to do anything about this because they're afraid of losing votes. The inequality and injustice is also extremely overrated.
http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=807AFE24055A4266D00FA0B6B136B002

Whether the upper castes or the lower castes is the actual oppressed class, I can't say. The case about reservation is true. The upper castes are victims of legal discrimination when it comes to education/job related. However, reservation might be practised but does not affect the target populace.

Most of these seats are filled up by students who belong to low-caste but were financially well-off (and therefore should've been able to perform better in exam, not taking aid of reduced cut-off marks). Few upper caste people even forge out caste certficates to enter into these seats.

The economically-backward lower castes and the tribals are still illiterate, uneducated and don't have proper means of livelihood, and this proves: that "Reservation" is useless and does nothing to help the cause. Schemes, benefits are available but most of these don't reach them at all. Or are partially/completely ineffective. Corrupt practices in such distribution systems is another case that can't be ignored.

(My observations) Tribals and lower-caste people are also not very clever when it comes to their property/land (if they have). Many are victims of severe alcohol addiction that drains their whatever little income earned and leaves them poor forever. They also have too many children. Some groups have inferiority complex. All this owes to lack of education and awareness.

Most of the converts to Christianity and Buddhism are indeed from lower castes and tribes (regardless of financial background). I can't think of any reasons other than due to lack of awareness/education or for an escape from the stigma attached to a caste. Chamars, Musahars, Santhals, Adivasis are some of the ones I know.

(Note: I didn't talk about OBCs as I am not familiar with them and their conditions first hand.) Caste system is not really a persistent problem, but their poverty and the associated stigma with castes is. Education and effective measures targeting these groups, along with the solutions you mentioned will eradicate it in no time.

What bothers me more is the alien element of Vegetarianism (that preferably excludes eggs but can include milk) in Hinduism. I find this diet, as well as accusing the meat-eaters of "jeev hatya" (murdering life forms) the most annoying. They misrepresent the scriptures and say that 'mansa' doesn't mean meat but something else, and that a true hindu would be strictly vegetarian. Hell, even the website OP mentioned promotes it. I wish there was a more blatant mentioning in scriptures which could shatter the connections of vegetarian diets with Hinduism. Cow worship and stating 'cow, our mother' is another one, but I would refrain from giving an opinion on this as I don't want to come across as offensive.

 

[ToZ Forum Contributions]

The caste system in India is not a meritocracy based on Dharma its just a guild system which is tribal in its nature. The caste your in is your identity and that is your community and that is all. If your born into the lower castes that is what you get and this can come with a lot of discrimination and frustration of ones own life goals. Untouchables just do the dirty work in that society so they are avoided its not that they are bad people they are just born into the India version of garbage man. That caste limit was in Europe with the feudal regimes and caused many people to leave to the New World. People want something better and to be free and respected. That is how humans are.

 

[ToZ Forum Contributions]

The Indian establishment is cultural Marxist and the same policies are in the west just with different names. The way around this is to abolish the affirmative action nonsense and create a system that is a meritocracy as you mentioned. I believe if Indian Nationalists can create a Pan Hindu identity that is positive for all Hindu's this would work to nullify the aspects of Hinduism the enemy is manipulating to push Christianity, Marxism and Islam.

However the religious aspects have real influence many reports on this situation always mention that the lower castes find converting to Christianity, Islam or even Buddhism appealing to escape the caste system.

The problem in India is the caste system the lower castes leave to convert to Christianity because it offers them some sense of equality and respect in their mind the same with Buddhism and Islam. The caste system is mainly an economic structure from the previous times. People don't like to be held back. The other problem is within Hinduism much of the spiritual knowledge has been removed and replaced with Bhakti and Jainist-Buddhist moralism. So its already created a sympathetic tie into Christianity.

The problem with the caste system is not with the religion but with the institutional legal caste discrimination not against lower castes but against upper castes. The RSS and other Hindutva organizations have been operating on the scheme of respecting the lower castes as brothers since 50 something years. Its completely invisible religion and culture wise in any city. The only place it's still somewhat visible Is the extreme rural societies. Because religion and spirituality is not that important to people in the cities nowadays. They literally don't GAF.

The problem comes when the child passes graduation and he gets into institutions based on his caste rankings in any entrance exam. The ranking system has a reservation policy (not like affirmative action) where 45-50% of the seats are reserved for the low castes regardless of social standing or economic background. What happens now is that these low castes compete only among themselves and not against the general castes, and have their own cut off criterion. So the seats that should be filled with merit are now filled according to caste, with visible mark differences. All this reservation shit is also availiable in all government and public sector jobs ,its ridiculous. Then they get massive state benefits in food, scholarships, free money, appliances, vehicles etc. Its literally inconceivable if you live in India. They have everything reserved. And the reason being that the population of these low castes are high so their vote count matters more. The entire lower class is being fed and kept alive by the tax of the middle class and upper class people where they are literally being fed and having their health and life insured and letting them open zero balance bank accounts which are state sponsored.

The root of the issue lies with caste being an integral criterion for recognition in any government institution. If the government wanted to eliminate caste problems they should first refuse to recognize caste as a identifier. Also the caste is only passed down through the paternal line. So if a high caste woman marries a low caste man, the child will become a low caste according to law and get all state benefits but the converse for state benefits is not true. If the Government refused to entertain caste distinctions the Hindutva people would effectively restructure all of society based on brotherhood and no one would feel socially vulnerable. All these low caste hype is generally capitalized on by Cultural Marxists in the Academia and the Media who have worked hard to paint the Upper castes as the enemies of the Low castes.

Moreover all of this religious inequality is being combated at an extreme level with the Hindutva group. The government simply refuses to do anything about this because they're afraid of losing votes. The inequality and injustice is also extremely overrated.
http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=807AFE24055A4266D00FA0B6B136B002

 

[Jack]

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What I have realized is that we should divert the enormous social security money that is being pumped by the Central and State Government and direct it to improving education and infrastructure. Because once a couple of Entrepreneurs start businesses, the educated youth can take up jobs and make money. We can also challenge China in manufacturing also. The correct problem is the lack of quality education which is only available in some universities with high cut offs that toppers get into. Then unironically these people also leave india and go to foreign countries for further job opportunities. The Indians from the top income bracket after yehuborim in the US,composed of Doctors,Engineers, Scientists, CEOS,businessmen and IT professionals. Why tf aren't these Indians in India working for Indian companies and making our nation proud ? This is because of the terrible state of our education and infrastructure system, horrible economic constraints that prevent people from having elaborate startups and easily becoming entrepreneurs, shit quality business education and a Socialist system.

This country literally has in the Preamble that we are a socialist country and that every political party must pay allegiance to socialism. This is completely retarded. I like how Modi is thinking of Privatization of many Government holdings which is actually a very good idea.

The Government should get out of
1)Insurance business
2)The Stock market
3)The Banks (except for our Central bank.)
4)Giving Social Security to any kind of people. (I'll be okay with the Government giving some help to extremely poor people though. )
5)Dictating Speech (We have speech laws against minarets which we can't criticize. Extremely problematic because then we can't publicly point out to a low caste that jesus is a scam stolen from Krishna. The lawyers might interpret it as a hate speech.)We can't publicly criticize the low castes,policies that affect them positively and affect us negatively, muslims and Christians.
6)Creating riots for political gain.
7)Completely remove any and all kind of reservation except reservations for economically backward classes (only 10% irrespective of caste.)

The Government should be invested in
1)Providing high quality cheap education and ever increasing the number of colleges and schools .
2)Building and maintaining a strong army.
3)Teaching correct history to children from young age and not the marxist and heavily broken history we were taught in school.
4)Preventing Foreigners from gaining stocks more than 10% in any Indian company.
5)Preventing the Privatization of the Central bank by any means necessary.


If this would be in place then we could adopt Hintudva as a cultural survival strategy and solve these Low Caste problems. I'd also like some understanding in the higher castes so they don't go race mixing with the lower castes . We could easily start countering these Christian's en masse but were held back by these anti free speech laws.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

The caste system in India is not a meritocracy based on Dharma its just a guild system which is tribal in its nature. The caste your in is your identity and that is your community and that is all. If your born into the lower castes that is what you get and this can come with a lot of discrimination and frustration of ones own life goals. Untouchables just do the dirty work in that society so they are avoided its not that they are bad people they are just born into the India version of garbage man. That caste limit was in Europe with the feudal regimes and caused many people to leave to the New World. People want something better and to be free and respected. That is how humans are.

So apparently none of the actual "Caste System" of the old times even exists at all, which makes this a meme at this point.

I am not even sure if the "Caste System" was a closed system as it's advertised of being today. For one, this makes no sense. This was not applied in Rome or elsewhere, and mostly, Feudal regimes.

All Aryan regimes had also a measure of proven ability for social upwards and downwards movement, while on the other hand this does not appear to be the case how the "Caste System" is described in the modern East.

 

[ToZ Forum Contributions]

My belief is the current failure of Western societies governments shows that society can not function without the Varna system. Because without that the type of political class we get is not of quality.

 

[ToZ Forum Contributions]

Jack your posts are very helpful thank you. What is the normal Hindu Indians reaction to this type of strange Modi, figure of the past and smash Fascism nonsense? That is strange since the Swastika is so important to Hindu's and figure of the past is well liked in Hindu India from my understanding I note a famous Swami once stated that figure of the past was the father of Indian independence not Gandhi as figure of the past worked with Bose. The Germans who met with Bose during figure of the past's government stated that Bose was himself a National Socialist and had created its own understanding of such from his own mind based on his own Hindu Nationalism.

 

[Illuminatedꪶꪶꪶ]

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All Aryan regimes had also a measure of proven ability for social upwards and downwards movement, while on the other hand this does not appear to be the case how the "Caste System" is described in the modern East.

Caste system, which in it's deepest sense is about bloodline, race and culture is replaced by 'Class System!'
A materialistic struggle circus!

In ancient times peoples used to value caste more than anything else, no matter the levels of materialism. Wants and needs were less.

Class struggle has abused the entire caste system and now a rat race scenario has taken over, no different than the rats we deal with. The abuse is seen in all walks of people's life, be it government benefits, education system or job opportunities.
There's not even one proper system!

Now, for western peoples who have spirituality to pursue, are often seen trapped in Bhakti system like those of Prabhupada. Many Whites can be seen marrying Hindus, taking dips in grossly polluted 'Holy Rivers', quitting or 'donating' their hard earned possessions.

Also, even for the systems that are based on meditation and yoga leading to enlightenment, work pretty much similar. Those Babas take their possessions, give them monastic outfits and give them sermons and meditative practices that alters their minds to best suit their own interest.

I'm not saying these are all to it. Many good and true peoples exist too, which pretty much are secretive. They value their knowledge and have wisdom to keep it safe.

The above is informative, but the fact of the matter is this! You see for us fellow JOS members who are actively working for a cause must be focused on the upbringing of our satanic hopes.
It's pretty natural for any Zevism trying to relate to the bright past our peoples and Gods have been in various civilizations, which is 'All' of our planet and even beyond, before the enemy showed up!

One is free to get to their roots and make best out of his past, present and future.

We With The Rituals, Make Peoples Free!
A preliminary duty, for the peoples of our Gods. The rest is up to the peoples, what they make of themselves.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Thank you for this, had to go offline yesterday. Reading this now, this is very revealing, and Jewish methods verbatim.

I still believe the Brahmanic class should be the leaders in India. They are no different than the local aristocracy the yehuborim have replaced entirely in the West. If they were fully replaced the Jew would not be after them.

I see also many Yogis especially in the last 20 years have been trying to steer the boat. The Ritual will help India as this is all jewish witchcraft working to take down India.

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Basically if that is the case that means the so called "Caste System" is only for decorative purposes.

As for the Chandala and general worthless dipshits that will join xianity over the false pretext of the caste, where they belonged is outside of Hinduism in the first place. And these types are so weak and negative that maybe the general body of Hindus does better without them.

Hinduism did a lot of favors to the chandala and the lowest of the low, and it literally was washed into their image. But still apparently nothing else than breaking every Shiva statue and replacing it with a Jew is going to fit their bill. So they might as well become Muslims at this point, since there is nowhere lower to sink themselves. India has lasting problems because of this constant agitation of the lower classes towards the higher based only the fake pretext of "Bad treatment".

If there is bad treatment by the "Higher Caste Elites", what can be said about a giant mass that sucks and hardly organizes to contribute everything? The lower castes don't seem like they are fully moral over answering this question and trying to do better either. Only pointing the finger towards the "Elite Class" and saying it's their fault is dishonest. If they drink boose all day, that's what they are going to reap as a class also.

These that desert Hinduism which is really a very optimal religion especially compared to the Jew hoaxes circulating everywhere else, are the grade A traitors that would have caused immense problems during some sort of other form of bad revolution. It's better they desert Hinduism now rather than during some war time. The fact also that they can't follow any of the Gods and ranging systems which are more than enough to include everyone, is really weird. This shows a lot that why they leave has nothing got to do with the "bad treatment" from a non existent elite, nor non-existent discrimination [or even worse, benefits which elevate them faster] compared to everyone else.

If someone leaves it's because they are just flat tire dumb it appears at this point.

Caste system or not the better and more intelligent will rise at the top for the benefit of the rest, or for evil purposes. Indeed the Caste System doesn't look bad at all, except of the ability to move upwards and downwards being a helpful thing, so that those who lose buzz can drop and those who are prominent can raise. But apparently this is still obviously very rare, like 1% of the population raises if at all, as it is.

So they might as well let better brains to think for the benefit of all India rather than whine like the jew instructs. India has been doing great compared to the mass changes it has underwent, because people with brains found their places in offices. If "Affirmative action" type of garbage replaces meritocracy, then India will face a most undeserved collapse.

What is happening in india is basically a growing trend of Hindu consciousness rising and so the Marxists are also riled up to attack the Hindu cause. Since the last 50 years, the country was ruled by literal marxists in the Academia who dictated extremely awful and incorrect history and a theme of low castes vs high castes. But the Hindutva organizations had been working little by little on the grassroots level to solve our problems and reform the Hinduism into a cultural strategy that will combat Christians ,muslims and communists. The reservation program that was created in the 1950s was supposed to be held only for 12 years or so and was then supposed to be disbanded as otherwise it would have a very negative effect according to its founder. But then the congress traitors kept it as law for votes and now we're in a situation where the low caste outnumber the high castes in population size. So even if a government removes the reservation policy, according to vote bank distribution it will be defeated in the next election and the government elected then will re install it.

India should be a clarion call for the absolute failure of democracy. There are different groups of people fighting for their own interests tearing the nation apart.

These liberal have a different view of india than the Hindutva people have which has existed since the partition. They are literally fighting for another country essentially. Then you have literal foreign elements being funded by the Vatican operating their conversion schemes. When Modi came into power, they finally started documenting all these NGOs and how much money was coming in and what it was being spread upon. They've been bitching about Human rights issues and all similar bullshit ever since Modi came into power.

What you see in India is what you exactly see in the US. The marxists have been in the Academia for too long and they've painted a picture of Whites as oppressors historically tormenting a revolution against the Concoted patriarchy. In india they don't have white so they concoted the Brahmins as oppressors and the patriarch rulers.

Bitch STFU and get a job

A literal veiled Muslim woman combating 'Patriarchy'

In the US, its the Whites .In India, its the Brahmins. Although Brahmins aren't an organized group and have zero political power. They replaced Racism with Casteism and Patriarchy with Brahminical Patriarchy and basically created Brahmanism which is Casteism+Patriarchy. These writers have had they're education in the marxist colleges outside india and came back with this cultural Marxism ideology.

As in the US and in India, the minorities who are being used by the marxists aren't really a big problem. The problem are these yehuborim pretending to be white and attacking whites from within. And these Marxists pretending to be Hindu Scholars are spreading this anti Hindu ideology. Its completely incomprehensible that an adult human can develop such an inferiority complex and blame all of societies problems on a group of people who have no say socially, culturally or politically.

Then they have this thing called brahmins might not be Casteist but brahmanism is a real thing even if brahmins do not spread it I.e its institutional. Similar to how they say whites might not be racist but the racism is present and institutionalized and pervasive. No one has ever proves to me how this is possible that you have an invisible phenomenon of oppression happening that is pervasive on a societal scale and you have no proof to show for it .

In fact the proof is opposite. We have legal discrimination against whites with the diversity quotas, woman quotas and anti Male divorce laws and institutional anti white media bias. Here in india we have anti brahmin (an extremely small portion of the population) media and educational biases,similar anti male divorce laws, and reservation and anti free speech discrimination. You could say it's worse here than US. I don't know how we can solve all of this until a literal revolution of dictatorship.

If you only knew how bad things were

 

[Jack]

Jack your posts are very helpful thank you. What is the normal Hindu Indians reaction to this type of strange Modi, figure of the past and smash Fascism nonsense? That is strange since the Swastika is so important to Hindu's and figure of the past is well liked in Hindu India from my understanding I note a famous Swami once stated that figure of the past was the father of Indian independence not Gandhi as figure of the past worked with Bose. The Germans who met with Bose during figure of the past's government stated that Bose was himself a National Socialist and had created its own understanding of such from his own mind based on his own Hindu Nationalism.

Indians have an visceral negative reactions to these themes being pulled by these marxists. These are relatively new talking points which I think are borrowed directly from the Trump campaign. These liberal arts and sociology students in these universities are being brainwashed by marxists who have read in abroad and imported this marxists class struggle ideology. Moreover the major Indian media is actually regional and hindi language, is pro Modi and pro hindu. The English media almost completely cover only these English media outlets in india run by marxists as if they had any sort of influence on the population.

These marxists and the people being influenced by them are fostering in metropolitan cities in the rich kids strata. Some of these kids when they pursue their university education get further brainwashed. For them being liberal/marxist is a fashion statement. Like, me being liberal is an achievement and I'm so superior than you primitive people .I'm from the educated class and not like you racist villagers.

The actual problem is the internal enemies distorting Hinduism and keeping hindus divided
Which isMarxists writing and teaching wrong and select history in academia and media. Combine that with a disorganized Hindu religion and you get complete chaos.

This creates a problem where liberal hindus support Muslims and Christians against Hardliner Hindus which is why Delhi is still under a liberal government because it is the most liberal city in india. Recently they had riots because the alpha chad Modi said he'd start deporting illegal Muslim immigrants from neighboring countries after having them prove their citizenship and unanimously provide citizenship to illegal hindus who escaped persecution from these Muslim countries. Liberals lost their shit and started protesting which induced riots and many dead because hindus don't like being told what to do and muslims are violent terrorists.

And the thing is majority of Hindus just inherently hate muslims regardless of which party they subscribe to so itll still take a lot of years for marxists to convince everyone to love muslims. The major problems are the disorganized Hindu religion which is alienating the Low castes, Politicians capitalizing on their vote count and implementing Socialist policies which is negatively affecting the entire country and creating a brain drain.

The children in view of becoming hip or woke engage more in the English social media where most of these anti hindu pro Muslim talking points proliferate. The major brainwashing tools are these social media commentary sites.

If the Hindu religion was reorganized by ridding it of rituals and customs and replacing it with factual yoga ,then it would do us a lot of good. The Hindu nationalist ideology of Hindutva is also a very disorganized ideology which doesn't solve many problems that it creates. They don't have the real solutions to the problems of Christianity and islam because they offer no substitute than traditional Hinduism which is disorganized. They don't have a good economic or political solution either. A good start would be to be completely against democracy, liberalism and promote liberal economic policy at the same time being anti globalism. They don't do a lot of internet activism and understanding of social media capitalization which they really should get their hands on. They are woke on the Muslim and Christian issue though. Who knows what would have happened to india if they hadn't been protecting the people from complete islamization.

You can read about their ideology here,
https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.489044

https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://sanjeev.sabhlokcity.com/Misc/We-or-Our-Nationhood-Defined-Shri-M-S-Golwalkar.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj-88Oo743oAhXY7HMBHR_3A30QFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw3pn3e9fynJyXTExNBRgjvq&cshid=1583773319531

They've been publically cucking about their original assertions that Christian's,muslims and communists are internal enemies although I think they still hold that view in secret. With this kind of global scene you can't expect them to go full nazi. These people are actually nazis in disguise. Their organization was established after they learnt of fascist organization after visiting Italy. They had been supporters of figure of the past throughout the war and didn't join the fake peace struggle movement which was a smoke screen created by the British which had no impact whatsoever. They were hoping Bose and Germany would win however the rest we know is history.

In india we need to as hindus
1)restructure and reform Hinduism
2)remove the reservation
3)Solve the economic problems
4)Solve the wrong History problem
5)Eliminate the internal enemies

These 5 contain so many internal details its hard to cover In one post. The hindus and indians have multilayered identities among people which are directly at odds with each other. Resolving all these issues are extremely complex. Researching one issue you find it has been entangled with a bunch of other issues.

 

[shubhamrane666]

The Indian establishment is cultural Marxist and the same policies are in the west just with different names. The way around this is to abolish the affirmative action nonsense and create a system that is a meritocracy as you mentioned. I believe if Indian Nationalists can create a Pan Hindu identity that is positive for all Hindu's this would work to nullify the aspects of Hinduism the enemy is manipulating to push Christianity, Marxism and Islam.

However the religious aspects have real influence many reports on this situation always mention that the lower castes find converting to Christianity, Islam or even Buddhism appealing to escape the caste system.

The problem in India is the caste system the lower castes leave to convert to Christianity because it offers them some sense of equality and respect in their mind the same with Buddhism and Islam. The caste system is mainly an economic structure from the previous times. People don't like to be held back. The other problem is within Hinduism much of the spiritual knowledge has been removed and replaced with Bhakti and Jainist-Buddhist moralism. So its already created a sympathetic tie into Christianity.

The problem with the caste system is not with the religion but with the institutional legal caste discrimination not against lower castes but against upper castes. The RSS and other Hindutva organizations have been operating on the scheme of respecting the lower castes as brothers since 50 something years. Its completely invisible religion and culture wise in any city. The only place it's still somewhat visible Is the extreme rural societies. Because religion and spirituality is not that important to people in the cities nowadays. They literally don't GAF.

The problem comes when the child passes graduation and he gets into institutions based on his caste rankings in any entrance exam. The ranking system has a reservation policy (not like affirmative action) where 45-50% of the seats are reserved for the low castes regardless of social standing or economic background. What happens now is that these low castes compete only among themselves and not against the general castes, and have their own cut off criterion. So the seats that should be filled with merit are now filled according to caste, with visible mark differences. All this reservation shit is also availiable in all government and public sector jobs ,its ridiculous. Then they get massive state benefits in food, scholarships, free money, appliances, vehicles etc. Its literally inconceivable if you live in India. They have everything reserved. And the reason being that the population of these low castes are high so their vote count matters more. The entire lower class is being fed and kept alive by the tax of the middle class and upper class people where they are literally being fed and having their health and life insured and letting them open zero balance bank accounts which are state sponsored.

The root of the issue lies with caste being an integral criterion for recognition in any government institution. If the government wanted to eliminate caste problems they should first refuse to recognize caste as a identifier. Also the caste is only passed down through the paternal line. So if a high caste woman marries a low caste man, the child will become a low caste according to law and get all state benefits but the converse for state benefits is not true. If the Government refused to entertain caste distinctions the Hindutva people would effectively restructure all of society based on brotherhood and no one would feel socially vulnerable. All these low caste hype is generally capitalized on by Cultural Marxists in the Academia and the Media who have worked hard to paint the Upper castes as the enemies of the Low castes.

Moreover all of this religious inequality is being combated at an extreme level with the Hindutva group. The government simply refuses to do anything about this because they're afraid of losing votes. The inequality and injustice is also extremely overrated.
http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=807AFE24055A4266D00FA0B6B136B002

Considering population of india and such the quota meant for OBC(Other backward classes) and the people without any quotas have nearly the same merit. OBC quota of upto 27% was created by Leftist Marxist Congress party just to create more votes for them. When I refer to someone as lower caste, I mean someone who is from SC(Scheduled caste) or ST(Scheduled Tribes). The reservation for And anyway OBC are not socially discriminated against in society and were not in past as well. They got quotas because of political agendas to divide society in 1990s-2006. Shivsena under late BalasahebThackeray which used to be far-right Hindu nationalist was the only political party to oppose OBC reservation in past and it did not turn out well for them as they lost many votes(They lost votes due to other reasons too especially their new leader, son of Balasaheb back then who was and still in incompetent).
And yes I do have to admit that the discrimination is overly exaggerated. The shitty laws and atrocity act lets lower caste people to sue someone in court on grounds of atrocity.
There are 2 ways things can go for india, as Raj Thackeray says seeing India like Europe and the states like countries in Europe can work. Each state can have their own ethno Hindu nationalist parties. So far Shivsena, MNS are only true regional ethno hindu parties. Since each state has a ditinct culture it is possible to have a hindu ethnic identity where ethnicity is according to state. Like Hindu-Maharashtrian identity as per Shivsena and MNS. The big problem is that other states in India except Maharashtra do not have any regional ethnic Hindu nationalist parties.
The other way out is to have a pan Indian Hindu identity which would need to do a lot to implement properly.
I was introduced to Thackeray style of politics by some dude on old forums.

 

[shubhamrane666]

The Indian establishment is cultural Marxist and the same policies are in the west just with different names. The way around this is to abolish the affirmative action nonsense and create a system that is a meritocracy as you mentioned. I believe if Indian Nationalists can create a Pan Hindu identity that is positive for all Hindu's this would work to nullify the aspects of Hinduism the enemy is manipulating to push Christianity, Marxism and Islam.

However the religious aspects have real influence many reports on this situation always mention that the lower castes find converting to Christianity, Islam or even Buddhism appealing to escape the caste system.

The problem in India is the caste system the lower castes leave to convert to Christianity because it offers them some sense of equality and respect in their mind the same with Buddhism and Islam. The caste system is mainly an economic structure from the previous times. People don't like to be held back. The other problem is within Hinduism much of the spiritual knowledge has been removed and replaced with Bhakti and Jainist-Buddhist moralism. So its already created a sympathetic tie into Christianity.

The problem with the caste system is not with the religion but with the institutional legal caste discrimination not against lower castes but against upper castes. The RSS and other Hindutva organizations have been operating on the scheme of respecting the lower castes as brothers since 50 something years. Its completely invisible religion and culture wise in any city. The only place it's still somewhat visible Is the extreme rural societies. Because religion and spirituality is not that important to people in the cities nowadays. They literally don't GAF.

The problem comes when the child passes graduation and he gets into institutions based on his caste rankings in any entrance exam. The ranking system has a reservation policy (not like affirmative action) where 45-50% of the seats are reserved for the low castes regardless of social standing or economic background. What happens now is that these low castes compete only among themselves and not against the general castes, and have their own cut off criterion. So the seats that should be filled with merit are now filled according to caste, with visible mark differences. All this reservation shit is also availiable in all government and public sector jobs ,its ridiculous. Then they get massive state benefits in food, scholarships, free money, appliances, vehicles etc. Its literally inconceivable if you live in India. They have everything reserved. And the reason being that the population of these low castes are high so their vote count matters more. The entire lower class is being fed and kept alive by the tax of the middle class and upper class people where they are literally being fed and having their health and life insured and letting them open zero balance bank accounts which are state sponsored.

The root of the issue lies with caste being an integral criterion for recognition in any government institution. If the government wanted to eliminate caste problems they should first refuse to recognize caste as a identifier. Also the caste is only passed down through the paternal line. So if a high caste woman marries a low caste man, the child will become a low caste according to law and get all state benefits but the converse for state benefits is not true. If the Government refused to entertain caste distinctions the Hindutva people would effectively restructure all of society based on brotherhood and no one would feel socially vulnerable. All these low caste hype is generally capitalized on by Cultural Marxists in the Academia and the Media who have worked hard to paint the Upper castes as the enemies of the Low castes.

Moreover all of this religious inequality is being combated at an extreme level with the Hindutva group. The government simply refuses to do anything about this because they're afraid of losing votes. The inequality and injustice is also extremely overrated.
http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=807AFE24055A4266D00FA0B6B136B002

Considering population of india and such the quota meant for OBC(Other backward classes) and the people without any quotas have nearly the same merit. OBC quota of upto 27% was created by Leftist Marxist Congress party just to create more votes for them. When I refer to someone as lower caste, I mean someone who is from SC(Scheduled caste) or ST(Scheduled Tribes). The reservation for And anyway OBC are not socially discriminated against in society and were not in past as well. They got quotas because of political agendas to divide society in 1990s-2006. Shivsena under late BalasahebThackeray which used to be far-right Hindu nationalist was the only political party to oppose OBC reservation in past and it did not turn out well for them as they lost many votes(They lost votes due to other reasons too especially their new leader, son of Balasaheb back then who was and still in incompetent).
And yes I do have to admit that the discrimination is overly exaggerated. The shitty laws and atrocity act lets lower caste people to sue someone in court on grounds of atrocity.
There are 2 ways things can go for india, as Raj Thackeray says seeing India like Europe and the states like countries in Europe can work. Each state can have their own ethno Hindu nationalist parties. So far Shivsena, MNS are only true regional ethno hindu parties. Since each state has a ditinct culture it is possible to have a hindu ethnic identity where ethnicity is according to state. Like Hindu-Maharashtrian identity as per Shivsena and MNS. The big problem is that other states in India except Maharashtra do not have any regional ethnic Hindu nationalist parties.
The other way out is to have a pan Indian Hindu identity which would need to do a lot to implement properly.
I was introduced to Thackeray style of politics by some dude on old forums.

 

[ToZ Forum Contributions]

The Indian educational system to my understanding was created by the British and the ruling and upper class that was created in India during the Raj was made up of Indian's who were all educated in Britain as the requirement for such positions within the government. It was full of anti Hindu attitudes.

The problem with Hinduism I believe is as you stated it lacks a real Brahmana class to lead the nation. The Brahmana's were the class of people with the risen serpent in their own texts. I note the one Sat Guru has wrote that in the new age the Monastic's the ones who practice Kundalini Yoga will go and marry and create families and build a new Brahmana class to build the future.

Indians have an visceral negative reactions to these themes being pulled by these marxists. These are relatively new talking points which I think are borrowed directly from the Trump campaign. These liberal arts and sociology students in these universities are being brainwashed by marxists who have read in abroad and imported this marxists class struggle ideology. Moreover the major Indian media is actually regional and hindi language, is pro Modi and pro hindu. The English media almost completely cover only these English media outlets in india run by marxists as if they had any sort of influence on the population.

These marxists and the people being influenced by them are fostering in metropolitan cities in the rich kids strata. Some of these kids when they pursue their university education get further brainwashed. For them being liberal/marxist is a fashion statement. Like, me being liberal is an achievement and I'm so superior than you primitive people .I'm from the educated class and not like you racist villagers.

The actual problem is the internal enemies distorting Hinduism and keeping hindus divided
Which isMarxists writing and teaching wrong and select history in academia and media. Combine that with a disorganized Hindu religion and you get complete chaos.

This creates a problem where liberal hindus support Muslims and Christians against Hardliner Hindus which is why Delhi is still under a liberal government because it is the most liberal city in india. Recently they had riots because the alpha chad Modi said he'd start deporting illegal Muslim immigrants from neighboring countries after having them prove their citizenship and unanimously provide citizenship to illegal hindus who escaped persecution from these Muslim countries. Liberals lost their shit and started protesting which induced riots and many dead because hindus don't like being told what to do and muslims are violent terrorists.

And the thing is majority of Hindus just inherently hate muslims regardless of which party they subscribe to so itll still take a lot of years for marxists to convince everyone to love muslims. The major problems are the disorganized Hindu religion which is alienating the Low castes, Politicians capitalizing on their vote count and implementing Socialist policies which is negatively affecting the entire country and creating a brain drain.

The children in view of becoming hip or woke engage more in the English social media where most of these anti hindu pro Muslim talking points proliferate. The major brainwashing tools are these social media commentary sites.

If the Hindu religion was reorganized by ridding it of rituals and customs and replacing it with factual yoga ,then it would do us a lot of good. The Hindu nationalist ideology of Hindutva is also a very disorganized ideology which doesn't solve many problems that it creates. They don't have the real solutions to the problems of Christianity and islam because they offer no substitute than traditional Hinduism which is disorganized. They don't have a good economic or political solution either. A good start would be to be completely against democracy, liberalism and promote liberal economic policy at the same time being anti globalism. They don't do a lot of internet activism and understanding of social media capitalization which they really should get their hands on. They are woke on the Muslim and Christian issue though. Who knows what would have happened to india if they hadn't been protecting the people from complete islamization.

You can read about their ideology here,
https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.489044

https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://sanjeev.sabhlokcity.com/Misc/We-or-Our-Nationhood-Defined-Shri-M-S-Golwalkar.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj-88Oo743oAhXY7HMBHR_3A30QFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw3pn3e9fynJyXTExNBRgjvq&cshid=1583773319531

They've been publically cucking about their original assertions that Christian's,muslims and communists are internal enemies although I think they still hold that view in secret. With this kind of global scene you can't expect them to go full nazi. These people are actually nazis in disguise. Their organization was established after they learnt of fascist organization after visiting Italy. They had been supporters of figure of the past throughout the war and didn't join the fake peace struggle movement which was a smoke screen created by the British which had no impact whatsoever. They were hoping Bose and Germany would win however the rest we know is history.

In india we need to as hindus
1)restructure and reform Hinduism
2)remove the reservation
3)Solve the economic problems
4)Solve the wrong History problem
5)Eliminate the internal enemies

These 5 contain so many internal details its hard to cover In one post. The hindus and indians have multilayered identities among people which are directly at odds with each other. Resolving all these issues are extremely complex. Researching one issue you find it has been entangled with a bunch of other issues.

 

[sahasrarabliss]

Tina dabi and other SC people are primarily aiming for IAS. They get succeed I don't know why and how. There are Muslims too in Indian administrative services and in police department.
I'm aiming for IAS too. But I'm from OBC.

This thread made me realised there are alot of Indians on JoS. Didn't know that. :mrgreen:

 

[MalinBaze]

Tina dabi and other SC people are primarily aiming for IAS. They get succeed I don't know why and how. There are Muslims too in Indian administrative services and in police department.
I'm aiming for IAS too. But I'm from OBC.

This thread made me realised there are alot of Indians on JoS. Didn't know that. :mrgreen:

That's ambitious. Glad to know a fellow Zevism is aiming high. I sincerely hope that you get what you're aiming for. Being an Zevism, you have the required edge it all takes.