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A recent post was very interesting and I would like to add some points to it.

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=78151

Now, we all know that Satanism is for the strong. Albeit it looks like further clarification of this topic is needed. As explained on this aspect before, we evolve and we grow. In this case, strength arrives through due process.

It is unacceptable to join Spiritual Satanism and just want to be exactly as weak, ignorant, or how you was before, wanting to grow in no level of existence whatsoever.

One will naturally enter Satanism at this state, but one is propelled and given the tools to move out of this state. That is common as the above is the situation where most people are into in this world due to bad instruction.

To go one step further, Satanism is for the strong, because it generates the strong. It makes you stronger. It is this path that no matter the starting point, you will grow. The above growth is through personal evolution and making the effort to advance.

Certain people are being bitter and sad about the starting point. Well, this is the case of all the sculpted bodies, masterful personalities, and anything that is ever significant in this world. It starts from nothing. Amazon started on a warehouse somewhere in the middle of nowhere, now it is the biggest chain of products sold in the world.

Many of the claimed "strong" in our world are simply weak, or can be externally strong but internally just very weak. Weak and incapable to be of compassion, of understanding, of facing their own wounds, of a myriad of other things, which are simply never done, showing poor levels of strength.

And many of the "weak" of this world can oftentimes display great enduring powers. No matter what, even circumstances can cause a situation where one finds themselves in one position and then the other.

I have seen many claimed "strong" who are not strong to stand for great deeds, and many "weak" people who will climb and climb the mountain while falling and recovering a million times. Strength here as one can see is not linear, nor it is simply something you are always born into or whatever.

In fact, the chances are overwhelming one will not have any of this to begin with, a situation closely related to being a man too in modern society, a society which literally exacts skull crashing pressure to make all men docile, sissified and seen as a threat to all of the universe and planet.

Primarily, power also has a form of justice about itself, in that spiritual and inner power is something one discovers, maintains and advances on their own.

Also, most certainly, the Gods pick oftentimes people who might be distressed or for all normal perceptions in weak positions, but they have the seed of the strong inside their hearts. There is no growth without this seed. Better circumstances can and will arrive, but circumstances on their own without the necessary souls to act, are never enough.

Strength and weakness are not only reliant in external factors. Most of this has to do with our core as a being and our decisions, not only our external circumstances. These two do not always meet. But in our society we are falsely told they are one and the same. This is not the case.

Yet this seed of strength needs cultivation. In other words, the strength and weakness axis is not some linear axis.

Like all forms of strength, mascular, mental or spiritual, one will have to develop this. Certain people start in any of the above from another level than others, and oftentimes this can be natural or from past life work - it doesn't matter. There are ranging levels here.

No matter the level, we have to be tolerant and accepting to ourselves, but firm to overcome our own weaknesses. When we learn to not dwell and not be consumed by the state of weakness and all of this, we overcome it.

When we say Satanism is not for the weak, we mean that Satanism is not for those who wish to eternally remain weak, passive, eternal victims, and make eternal friends with weakness and failure.

The above is very negative and not a good route for life. If one does this, one is harming themselves and eventually this weakness will also harm other people. We have to be mindful that weakness, in general, can be a situation that is dangerous for us and ourselves.

Weakeness has many forms, and it can also parade itself as strength more often than not, or come in the form of rage, misplaced arrogance or anger, and many other forms, insisting on mistakes, dull headedness- the list goes. That is managed by self learning.

In the case of becoming stronger, there is a HOW and a PATH to this, and this path is through ascent, healing, understanding. This path is a training based path.

To complain that one is not "the strongest" in this is equally inconsequential as a person who never went to the gym, complaining they are not a bodybuilder. The perfected body requires time, and such is the case too for evolving into a better state as a human being.

Now, one important point. The only way towards power, for men or for women, is from the force that is the masculine force in this world. That force is expansive.

If you sit there like a little bitch whining all day, and doing exactly what you should not be doing, and having no "masculine" traits, the most important being bravery, you will never become stronger, never face yourself, and never improve.

Sitting there like a little bitch, crying in your 20's and 30's and 40's and 50's about matters one should be crying for when they were 5 years old, is the worst investment of time, mental and spiritual energy.

Masculine energy is being fought relentlessly as it is the energy that handles problems and does a myriad of other things, that nobody wants you to do. Every human being has this.

Parasites, Yehuborim, and abusers, do profit immensely from people not having any masculine power, but also not feminine power, and generally no power whatsoever. This, I repeat, involves men and women equally.

Over the years as Clergy, I have seen many claimed "strong" people, who have been very powerful for all respects outwardly, really showing no power to do anything important in life such as do something important for the JoS. They just idly sit there doing nothing.

I have lost count on how many "weak" people have helped me raise the JoS, and how many of the "higher status" never stood up to show evidence of any claimed, believed by themselves or whatever, form of higher status.

Eventually, the Wheel of Fortune arrives and these people find themselves where they belong, while the so called "weak" of the current moment will become "strong".

Then, one will have to prove if in reality one is strong. If not, they fall again on the weak status. We fight to preserve. Life also commonly implies that this happens by external events - the person who is decided to be strong, will remain as such.

As one can understand from life, "Weakness" and "Strength" are also relative and can co-exist inside a person at both times. One might be very old and therefore weak in body, but many other levels of strength one has might be at the maximum, ranging from social influence to wealth, knowledge or wisdom.

Through a series of overcoming our own limitations, we become stronger. In weight training this is very simple to understand, but similar is the case in life as well. Life is about overcoming limitations. As we overcome these, we become stronger.

We have to be fierce with our own limitations, because oftentimes, when you are too soft you might not surpass your limits, but when you are reckless and you push your limits too far, that is also imbalanced.

Either of these states can cause a problem in one's development, so one has to stay in the middle. This is way more difficult in practice than in the theory of it. One learns with time.

We work towards the better and perfect version of ourselves, and we build this, refining our inner world, with knowledge and understanding.

We grow step by step, and there will the state of imperfection or not being perfect is the given beginning for us all. Depending on one's personality, we have to also consider how and at what pace one can evolve.

This comes after we learn about ourselves and apply the Apollonian adage of Knowing Thyself. Knowing will come through error, trials, facing weakness, and many similar events. After these are encountered and dealt with, we rise to a higher and more realized state, which acts as a checkpoint in our growth.

-High Priest Hooded Cobra 666
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
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Now, we all know that Satanism is for the strong. Albeit it looks like further clarification of this topic is needed. As explained on this aspect before, we evolve and we grow. In this case, strength arrives through due process.

It is unacceptable to join Spiritual Satanism and just want to be exactly as weak, ignorant, or how you was before, wanting to grow in no level of existence whatsoever.

One will naturally enter Satanism at this state, but one is propelled and given the tools to move out of this state. That is common as the above is the situation where most people are into in this world due to bad instruction.
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I missed this one Cobra, it's very good.
I did feel something was "off" earlier when I saw all these folks talking about or hinting at "kicking out the weaklings". I hated what I read from them, as I don't think that way. I like to offer a hand instead of a fist when I see someone struggling.
 
Ursa Minor said:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
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Now, we all know that Satanism is for the strong. Albeit it looks like further clarification of this topic is needed. As explained on this aspect before, we evolve and we grow. In this case, strength arrives through due process.

It is unacceptable to join Spiritual Satanism and just want to be exactly as weak, ignorant, or how you was before, wanting to grow in no level of existence whatsoever.

One will naturally enter Satanism at this state, but one is propelled and given the tools to move out of this state. That is common as the above is the situation where most people are into in this world due to bad instruction.
...

I missed this one Cobra, it's very good.
I did feel something was "off" earlier when I saw all these folks talking about or hinting at "kicking out the weaklings". I hated what I read from them, as I don't think that way. I like to offer a hand instead of a fist when I see someone struggling.

Most people like this who constantly dismissed others for being weak are the likely not very up there themselves.

There are also cases where when one advances and empowers, they can forget or might lose patience quick with others starting, but even these people were tolerated by someone and so that they might in turn tolerate others who want to advance and are new.

Experience tells me all those who boastful claim they are so beyond anyone else that they cannot tolerate anyone are just avoiding the real test of having to engage into anything. It is rare this is the product of real advancement, oftentimes this is just the opposite.

This shell is a protective shell that defends someone from encountering their own weakness. This is like a woman who never saw other women but keeps saying she is the most beautiful and nobody ever deserves her, which commonly is a behavior associated with the fact that this is not the case at all.

Clearly this is not good, and it is wrong to exist in some mentality like this. When the bubble pops there are no remains left.

Complete weakness and a giant false sense of self that is backed by nothing whatsoever are the same problem with the different line stemming from the same source.
 
Dahaarkan said:
It's okay to be weak so long as you are aware of it and are working towards elevating yourself from this. It's okay to make mistakes so long as you learn and grow from them. We are all here to help you. The gods are there for you when you are truly at a loss. You are never abandoned for being flawed or weak.

You merely abandon yourself if you choose to stagnate and remain weak forever.

I think the essence of your message is that of honest self-awareness combined with optimism about the situation.
Compared to the Gods, we will always be weaker, even for someone who is a veteran SS. As you mentioned before, the Gods are still patient and cooperative with us.

Personally, working with solar energies has made it much easier to admit mistakes, especially to others who I view as authorities. Before, I would be prone to just keep working until the entire situation was resolved, rather than make it obvious that something was wrong. Only then would I feel comfortable talking about it.

HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Most people like this who constantly dismissed others for being weak are the likely not very up there themselves.

There are also cases where when one advances and empowers, they can forget or might lose patience quick with others starting, but even these people were tolerated by someone and so that they might in turn tolerate others who want to advance and are new.

I'll always remember how HPS Maxine was patient with another who was asking a very simple question: https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=131815#p131815
 
I have been having problems with my phone. And I didn't get a chance to correct or chang anything! on my posts. Before they were sent. By accident! I apologize for the inconvenience and miss-understanding. This is the third time in two days I got a disapproval notice and that is very embarrassing! And I don't like to make an ass of myself on here :D anymore than I have already. I just want to let you people know what is going on! And I will take care of it. Have a goodnight! HAIL SATAN!!
 
GoyVeyII said:
You're projecting yourself onto me. TLDR.

Not surprised, it is typical of the weak and the worthless to run away from any criticism or advice and try to remain in their bubble forever ;)

Keep coping.
 
I've been reflecting a lot on this myself lately. Generally I've always been a fairly collected person, and being in control of my temper has been good at putting me aside from many others. At the same time, circumstances being what they were, I've naturally had to consider my own weaknesses. For instance, I've been worried about losing who's practically my best friend to the current war situation. For a time there I sort of chastised myself for having a bit of anxiety over the notion, not that I let it stop me from my workings and progression. But I sort of had to ask myself why I felt that way. Should I really feel any shame for having concerns over such a thing? Of course not.

The truth is, I was holding myself to a bizarre standard, not even really acknowledging how far I'd come from years prior. So long as you're alive, there's things and people to care about, even worry about. It's part and parcel of loving someone, after all. What matters is the degree. And ultimately though I looked for confidence in the Gods on the matter, and prayed for safety, it's not I let it ruin me, in the midst of a year where I've already had to face more than one death of things and people I've cared about.

Point is, shame can be a creeping thing. Even after years and years of spiritual work, every day without fail, no matter what struggle transpired, I still had to stop, look at myself in the mirror and ask myself if I was strong, as if I had zero proof as such, and every moment of weakness far outweighed the effort of enduring. But, I do not think the Gods would have stuck with me, given me their time and love, if they didn't see I still had the potential of strength. Strength is not a standard of purity, so to speak. You're not strong because of one grand moment, and you're not weak, because of one bad moment. You're strong, because you kept to something, through the good and the bad.

After all, there's a certain phenomenon, I guess you could call beginner's enthusiasm. Many people start, and start vigorously, spending hours on hours. But, when they don't find that instant success, many do drop off, though some come back later. The people who are set apart, are the ones that stick past that slow middle period, the steepest part of the climb. Once you get past that, and you start sensing more, and begin having more experiences, off the back of consistent development, it becomes far easier to commit. It takes special people, to continue working at the spiritual, even when they are unable to find the moment to moment proof of progress. Sometimes, it's not until you look back with retrospection that you realize how far you've come.

As others have said, there's nothing wrong with being weak. We live in a broken world, and if you're here, you have the good sentience to realize that fact, and oftentimes, this awareness brings with it suffering. The whole point of what we do is to make strong the weak, for on the larger scale of things, Satanists, Pagans all, have been beaten to the brink of death. As we grow stronger as individuals, so does our collective once more.
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
No matter the level, we have to be tolerant and accepting to ourselves, but firm to overcome our own weaknesses. When we learn to not dwell and not be consumed by the state of weakness and all of this, we overcome it.

I did not want to say anything here, as basically I admire this Sermon and the wise words, always helpful by HP HoodedCobra.
But I have a very conflicting sense of "strenght", and I must admit I felt very upset reading this sermon. I have clearly many weaknesses, to the point I could not stand to standard people (now a bit better, still working on this) so this caused many falls to ground zero in my life, needing to rebuild things.
I have been artificially weakened in my masculine energies, possibly this comes from past lives and torture and repeats here.
I have been able to accomplish great things, by an artificial ego built to hide weaknesses, so I know I have the ability to build something. But those accomplishments most often crumbled later on.

The point is, I am upset because for all my life I have been asked to be "the best" or "the leader" by everyone around. I am possibly projecting this onto others.
So I am extremely tired to hear "point to the top". I know the final goal of Satanism is perfecting one's souls, becoming like the Gods, so becoming the best you can be.
I need to work in steps, but my mind is both always pointing to the top - or nothing.

I have developed an internal rage, repressed and accumulated, because I could not be what I was asked to be. This is preventing my progress.
I have always had this feeling, but I did not know. Now I remember, each time I read on the JoS "you need to be strong" I felt upset, I accumulated this resentment.

The point is I do NOT want to be weak and I am working on myself (I am not new here), but I cannot stand anymore the "request" of being the best for yourself. This is what I desire, but I am blocking myself. I think I am angry to myself because I am not "top". This is confusing.

Sorry for the long story.
The point is, would a MUNKA repeated working help to fix that ?
I do not perceive this like a programming, rather it's some blockage in some chakra (2 nd?), when I think I should be better, I feel a consistent drain of energies.
 
Dahaarkan said:
...anyone, who were never weak and never had moments of weakness and failure are ALL frauds. ... I despise and mock them relentlessly because they make a mockery of the sacred process of self betterment, the process of turning lead into gold, the process of elevating a weak soul into godhood.

I think this is a very important detail. When we advance in something we feel weak in it because we are striving to become stronger in this something and feel all our imperfection at the moment. As when you are becoming stronger in gym your muscles are sore. If they are not sore (i.e. you feel "enough strong") you do not advance or not that fast. It's bad example because you do not want your muscles sore you want take it slowly, but ok, for example, you learn something. At the moment you are learning something completely new or higher than your average understanding you break more walls in your mind than if you return to the subject you are already familiar with. But the first process is more productive for you than the second one, obviously.

My point is we feel weak exactly at those moments we are becoming stronger, because these are moment of overcoming imperfection, so if someone really put themselves on a goal, striving for the level is exactly normal.

Once I told my martial arts teacher: "[Some pose] is rather easy" and he answered: "Because you are doing it wrong". And we had many conversations that are worthy sharing.

The moment I felt the weakest (being in fact the least delusional) in my life was this https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=77301&sid=3662b17ae207f686bb5021ecae0f3347 - the moment of my greatest victory over my ever existed previous self.

Here is the greatest point:

HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Experience tells me all those who boastful claim they are so beyond anyone else that they cannot tolerate anyone are just avoiding the real test of having to engage into anything. It is rare this is the product of real advancement, oftentimes this is just the opposite.

This shell is a protective shell that defends someone from encountering their own weakness. This is like a woman who never saw other women but keeps saying she is the most beautiful and nobody ever deserves her, which commonly is a behavior associated with the fact that this is not the case at all.

This is what my experience tells also, in varies subjects mostly not related here at all. Those who really wish to grow fast in something, be ready to feel lost in it all the time.

High Priest, thanks for the greatest sermon as usual.
 
This subject always reminds me of a chinese finger trap or an an eraser with a cardboard covering, you can try and brute force your success but it is far more the better option to be equipped with wisdom and knowledge. Everything has differing solutions and can offer suprising solutions if your mind is kept open. We can try and roar with all our might and bare our fangs showing our strength but being a mighty dragon isnt always about being imposing, we are made of a great deal of moving parts and I think true will and strength comes in the wise utilization of these parts moreso than just being the bigger badder guy.
 
Arcadia said:
...Point is, shame can be a creeping thing. Even after years and years of spiritual work, every day without fail, no matter what struggle transpired, I still had to stop, look at myself in the mirror and ask myself if I was strong, as if I had zero proof as such, and every moment of weakness far outweighed the effort of enduring.
...

After years you realise the top of the stair that you saw in the past was just another step.

Satanist feellings
 
I understand that Satanism itself is a long and lonely path based upon the continuous learning and progression on several disciplines... and as it has mentioned before, several life periods could be required for most Satanists to get real progress, and that's right the path that we all in here have decided to walk!, but I really feel this sermon by HPHC leads us to the foundation of Satanism: overcome the weakness and become strong, easy to say but hard to do.

Impossible? I don't think so, we were given personal skills that make us unique, and we have the support from the gods, here we got all we need, let´s just take it and get hands on work.

No excuses, this gift of JOS is not only to read posts, get rituals, post some responses and so on, we all in here are accountable for the given knowledge, how we mange and what we do with it.

Thanks HPHC.

Salve Satán!
 
GoyVeyII said:
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I have no idea who you are, but if your profile picture are your hands which I suspect them to be, it's enough for me to have attacked you spiritually if I wanted to. I don't, but some people here might.

Anyway, your accusations are a bit amusing. I'm willing to play a game here actually. If my account is banned in the next 24 hours, I'll never come back to this place in the name of Satan. Yes I'm willing to do that. I'll never speak or write "Joy of Satan" again. I'm willing to extend this deal for you, to acknowledge you were pretty close to he truth -- close enough anyway but not quite. I have better things to do than be here anyway.

RIP if banned.

As I read Abyssos's reply the situation is that they explain this to you as your behavior appears as methodical to them to cause problems or troll. They explain also that they are aware of methods that take place in that regard.

This might not be the case or you might do this involuntarily, and could be the case of wrong interactions or other issues which express themselves outwardly.

In the case you are legitimate, then you must consider this, and a legitimate SS would respect the community and then understand how to better interact, for their own sake and the sake of others.

If one is not that serious or a troll, the degraded manner of approach can have only bad results. In this case, both the serious or the troll would not care about this, yet both their value drops drastically within the community.

I see no reason to ban you until now as banning is serious and we hardly ban anyone, yet if you do not see any reason to understand the above a ban might occur because of too much communal agitation.
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
GoyVeyII said:
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I have no idea who you are, but if your profile picture are your hands which I suspect them to be, it's enough for me to have attacked you spiritually if I wanted to. I don't, but some people here might.

Anyway, your accusations are a bit amusing. I'm willing to play a game here actually. If my account is banned in the next 24 hours, I'll never come back to this place in the name of Satan. Yes I'm willing to do that. I'll never speak or write "Joy of Satan" again. I'm willing to extend this deal for you, to acknowledge you were pretty close to he truth -- close enough anyway but not quite. I have better things to do than be here anyway.

RIP if banned.

As I read Abyssos's reply the situation is that they explain this to you as your behavior appears as methodical to them to cause problems or troll. They explain also that they are aware of methods that take place in that regard.

This might not be the case or you might do this involuntarily, and could be the case of wrong interactions or other issues which express themselves outwardly.

In the case you are legitimate, then you must consider this, and a legitimate SS would respect the community and then understand how to better interact, for their own sake and the sake of others.

If one is not that serious or a troll, the degraded manner of approach can have only bad results. In this case, both the serious or the troll would not care about this, yet both their value drops drastically within the community.

I see no reason to ban you until now as banning is serious and we hardly ban anyone, yet if you do not see any reason to understand the above a ban might occur because of too much communal agitation.
Goyvey posts a few posts appearing to help people then attacks members out of nowhere, like when he out of nowhere talked down on JG Blitzkreig telling him he shouldn't be a JoS Guardian or something. Then cohencidentally, when he is asked about it, his response is to ask to be cursed so that Baalzebul can interfere and he can be proven to be a legitimate SS.

He says that the Gods are not real because apparently they can't come and tell JoS Guardians about who is a troll and who isn't. While claiming to be in the JoS for like a decade.

The behavior reeks of the usual enemy trolls, verbatim. Even the attack is one I've seen used before.
 

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