End of arguement against Transgender surgeries

[13th_Wolf]

Whenever my attention comes to this I always start thinking about that guy out of Silence of the Lambs, Buffalo bill. Very odd stuff and it won't stop being odd I think.

People have every right to do it just keep your bits away from me and never let me know about it ever, ta :lol:

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

This is self mutilation and one would never do this if they were in their right mind.

This is butchery.

 

[Wayofthegods]

This is self mutilation and one would never do this if they were in their right mind.

This is butchery.

That makes sense to me.

There is nothing wrong with feminine men or masculine women. This has always been a thing. I mean look at the Gods. Their true forms are not exactly viking.

But I have never understood chopping your dick off. The past clergy supported this, but never gave any reasonable explanation. So it hung around for years.

 

[Shadowcat]

This is self mutilation and one would never do this if they were in their right mind.

This is butchery.

I have heard of many who did it later regretted it and ended up committing suicide.

 

[Shadowcat]

This is self mutilation and one would never do this if they were in their right mind.

This is butchery.

That makes sense to me.

There is nothing wrong with feminine men or masculine women. This has always been a thing. I mean look at the Gods. Their true forms are not exactly viking.

But I have never understood chopping your dick off. The past clergy supported this, but never gave any reasonable explanation. So it hung around for years.

I actually in general had always been attracted to more feminine men as a result of having more solar or masculine qualities so me and my ex had this dynamic for a long time, although he balanced out abit later which i found even better. He actually had a really heavy transgender phase and was at this point for awhile, even at the " i want to chop it off part." luckily he got himself out of that. he would go from ups and downs in moodswings to taking hormones and then all of a sudden not. very caring and nuturing over all but also could be quite unstable.

He liked to crossdress..alot. loved shopping more than me lmao.

He found out he was Bi after cheating on me with 2 other guys. Hey, you love who you love, but cheating is cheating. Cried his eyes out when i packed.

I think the trouble with this is, and i noticed this with him as well, people who dont conform to gender norms ie more masculine women or more feminine men are bashed into thinking they have to fit their gender stereotype, so then they start thinking they are in the wrong body. It was a combination of this and trauma he endured as a child. his father was also a dirtbag and left him alone with a very overbearing and emotionally burdensome mother.

Me growing up the way i did, from always getting picked on from being a tomboy and wearing boys cloths (later on that stopped, save for when i was in uniform or working in the shop), to playing on the school football team, Enlisting in the national guard for 6 years, to then becoming a welder and almost always having nothing but male friends since i was a kid, nah..i never thought i was a boy. In fact. Always felt comfortable with my body and who i was.

Only thing that bothered me at times was especially when i got older was how i seemed to walk as a shadow between two worlds especially socially...didn't identify too much with other women, but guys would take it the wrong way if you just wanted to be friends :roll:

Hilariously enough, later on in life i discovered that i was actually also extremely feminine. I feel like ive got fire and water at the same time and im at a point where im not sure which should dominate or if one should at all haha. at one time i thought i was all fire...these days not so sure.

my ex was definately mostly water. i started noticing a pattern that i am very attracted to water people.

 

[Wayofthegods]

This is self mutilation and one would never do this if they were in their right mind.

This is butchery.

That makes sense to me.

There is nothing wrong with feminine men or masculine women. This has always been a thing. I mean look at the Gods. Their true forms are not exactly viking.

But I have never understood chopping your dick off. The past clergy supported this, but never gave any reasonable explanation. So it hung around for years.

I actually in general had always been attracted to more feminine men as a result of having more solar or masculine qualities so me and my ex had this dynamic for a long time, although he balanced out abit later which i found even better. He actually had a really heavy transgender phase and was at this point for awhile, even at the " i want to chop it off part." luckily he got himself out of that. he would go from ups and downs in moodswings to taking hormones and then all of a sudden not. very caring and nuturing over all but also could be quite unstable.

He liked to crossdress..alot. loved shopping more than me lmao.

He found out he was Bi after cheating on me with 2 other guys. Hey, you love who you love, but cheating is cheating. Cried his eyes out when i packed.

I think the trouble with this is, and i noticed this with him as well, people who dont conform to gender norms ie more masculine women or more feminine men are bashed into thinking they have to fit their gender stereotype, so then they start thinking they are in the wrong body. It was a combination of this and trauma he endured as a child. his father was also a dirtbag and left him alone with a very overbearing and emotionally burdensome mother.

Me growing up the way i did, from always getting picked on from being a tomboy and wearing boys cloths (later on that stopped, save for when i was in uniform or working in the shop), to playing on the school football team, Enlisting in the national guard for 6 years, to then becoming a welder and almost always having nothing but male friends since i was a kid, nah..i never thought i was a boy. In fact. Always felt comfortable with my body and who i was.

Only thing that bothered me at times was especially when i got older was how i seemed to walk as a shadow between two worlds especially socially...didn't identify too much with other women, but guys would take it the wrong way if you just wanted to be friends :roll:

Hilariously enough, later on in life i discovered that i was actually also extremely feminine. I feel like ive got fire and water at the same time and im at a point where im not sure which should dominate or if one should at all haha. at one time i thought i was all fire...these days not so sure.

my ex was definately mostly water. i started noticing a pattern that i am very attracted to water people.

Tom boys are hot. I like masculine women, as long as it's not butch. Strong willed, fearless women are such a turn on.

It's strange because in some ways I'm masculine, in some I'm feminine. I walk, talk and act masculine, but I'm really sensitive on the inside.

Like I dont act feminine in the body, it mostly shows in my eyes. Unless I block it from showing.

 

[Blackdragon666]

If you feel the need to change your gender, why not try a working to free your soul? Sounds like some serious hang ups regarding your gender to me. Maybe someone made you feel bad for being male/female in a past lifetime to where you carry it and strongly don't want to associate with your natural gender in future lifetimes?

 

[Shadowcat]

That makes sense to me.

There is nothing wrong with feminine men or masculine women. This has always been a thing. I mean look at the Gods. Their true forms are not exactly viking.

But I have never understood chopping your dick off. The past clergy supported this, but never gave any reasonable explanation. So it hung around for years.

I actually in general had always been attracted to more feminine men as a result of having more solar or masculine qualities so me and my ex had this dynamic for a long time, although he balanced out abit later which i found even better. He actually had a really heavy transgender phase and was at this point for awhile, even at the " i want to chop it off part." luckily he got himself out of that. he would go from ups and downs in moodswings to taking hormones and then all of a sudden not. very caring and nuturing over all but also could be quite unstable.

He liked to crossdress..alot. loved shopping more than me lmao.

He found out he was Bi after cheating on me with 2 other guys. Hey, you love who you love, but cheating is cheating. Cried his eyes out when i packed.

I think the trouble with this is, and i noticed this with him as well, people who dont conform to gender norms ie more masculine women or more feminine men are bashed into thinking they have to fit their gender stereotype, so then they start thinking they are in the wrong body. It was a combination of this and trauma he endured as a child. his father was also a dirtbag and left him alone with a very overbearing and emotionally burdensome mother.

Me growing up the way i did, from always getting picked on from being a tomboy and wearing boys cloths (later on that stopped, save for when i was in uniform or working in the shop), to playing on the school football team, Enlisting in the national guard for 6 years, to then becoming a welder and almost always having nothing but male friends since i was a kid, nah..i never thought i was a boy. In fact. Always felt comfortable with my body and who i was.

Only thing that bothered me at times was especially when i got older was how i seemed to walk as a shadow between two worlds especially socially...didn't identify too much with other women, but guys would take it the wrong way if you just wanted to be friends :roll:

Hilariously enough, later on in life i discovered that i was actually also extremely feminine. I feel like ive got fire and water at the same time and im at a point where im not sure which should dominate or if one should at all haha. at one time i thought i was all fire...these days not so sure.

my ex was definately mostly water. i started noticing a pattern that i am very attracted to water people.

Tom boys are hot. I like masculine women, as long as it's not butch. Strong willed, fearless women are such a turn on.

It's strange because in some ways I'm masculine, in some I'm feminine. I walk, talk and act masculine, but I'm really sensitive on the inside.

Like I dont act feminine in the body, it mostly shows in my eyes. Unless I block it from showing.

. I think the only really overt masculine thing about me physically is my voice and broad shoulders xD. other than that despite having a dirty job i pick at myself all the time to not look like crap x.x. its funny cus when i was younger i didnt give a shit about make up or anything...then later on started to like it. I can have both masculine and feminine behaviors. romantically i am attracted to both masculine and feminine energy yet have always strictly been attracted to men. Ill never understand those psycho bitches that will friendzone the nice guy thats loyal and sweet and go for the jerk that would treat them like crap..it happes so often. i think they have a screw loose lmao.


Strong and fearless? sometimes too firery even! hahaha..yet extremely protective and nurturing.

 

[darkmonkey666]

Well personally my girlfriend has Mars in Aries she is more masculine than me but i kind of like it it makes a close to exact opposition by degree to my Mars in Libra. So we are the style we are attracted too but argue sometimes lol. I myself kind of like more masuline women so its not a problem in my book.

What is feminine about me more so is I am emotional and moody more so than most guys and not really a fighter that much I try to avoid direct phyical conflict as much as possible as it just unsettles me even being around violence of some kind i am not even involved in i dont like that much (it did happen a couple times i have seen fights before) I dont however hesitate to deal with the issues using black magick or intellect or some more indirect route etc if i feel someone has wronged me. So its not like I am a total pushover. I also like emotional music and people say my voice is kind of feminine in some way not understanding that at all. I am more into the feminine side with energy and am completely right brained pretty much have some problems with understanding some left brained things.


That is what i mean by feminine.

But what I dont want to do is change my gender to female i think that is really dumb when I can accept and love myself for who I am. I dont really have a thing where I wear all feminine clothes either or try to identify as that. Sometimes I will do it just cause it feels rebel or something but no I don't see myself as transgender. Just bisexual feminine more caring about spiritual connection and intellectual connection than just what the body or gender is in a partner. I could be attracted to someone if they were my type not really caring much what they look like.


This is what i mean by all this. This is why i am not so sure about this transgender thing whether its a hang up the enemy created or something legit.

 

[darkmonkey666]

My point is if the situation had been right and I was with the right people I could have been eaisly convinced into this thing like a lot of other people who don't fit in their gender. Yes some people want to express themselves differently or in the opposite way of what their gender normally does and that is fine and did exist in the ancient times.

What didn't was all this stuff we see today as transgender.

This is why i think the enemy seriously is fucking over people with this.

 

[RYanK]

My point is if the situation had been right and I was with the right people I could have been eaisly convinced into this thing like a lot of other people who don't fit in their gender. Yes some people want to express themselves differently or in the opposite way of what their gender normally does and that is fine and did exist in the ancient times.

What didn't was all this stuff we see today as transgender.

This is why i think the enemy seriously is fucking over people with this.

Transgender individuals has been there for a long time as well, is not something that emerged out of nowhere. You are confusing transtrender with transgender. Transgender individuals do not decide to one day "hate themselves and want to be another gender" they are born this way, transitioning (Hormones, surgeries if desired) is the best that can happen to the mental/psychological/emotional and to the point spiritually to a transgender individual.

However transtrenders are doing it for the sake of wanting to escape their own problems(Psychologically/mentally/emotionally) and believing that "becoming the opposite gender" will solve all of their traumas, problems and more, when in fact this is NOT TRUE.

Hormones is not a dress you can put on, play the character and whenever you want you can wear it off, its a serious issue and I fucking blame Tumblr for it (In fact the one who started all this shit was a cisgender woman in disguise of a transgender woman. Who know if it was a Yehuborin ugh!!)

This is also why detransitioners are so rampant today, and personally I have noticed the same pattern on all detransitioners which I had grew a stance to hate them deeply, I do not tolerate them anymore.

I am not saying medical malpractice exist, because it does, those negligent individuals should be put in jail for their crimes against an individual.