Do Zevists pray with Hymns like Pagans do?

[ErictheBarbarian]

I'm new to Zevism, so I'm still learning all the details of how it works, so maybe I just missed a post where this was discussed but I'll ask here anyways

I've noticed there doesn't seem to be a focus on traditional forms of Pagan prayer like for example reciting a Homeric hymn to Apollo whilst burning incense

As a Pagan this has been my morning daily practice, where I offer a sacrifice of incense and recite a short poem of praise to the Gods. Organised based on the day such as Tyr on Tuesday and the Greek Gods who are associated with his archetype. In fact this has been largely what it means to me to be a Pagan. That and learning about the theology and ethics via philosophy like Platonism for example

(I don't mean the Gods aren't real when I say archetype btw, it's just for lack of a better word. They are absolutely real beings)

My question is, do Zevists only do meditation rituals or do they also have a daily practice of praise/worship of the Gods? Or is this maybe something personal that each Zevist is free to add on to the core program of meditation. Or is it even more mystical where the Guardian Daimon of the Zevist will guide them to the forms of worship most appropriate for them?

p.s. I do love what I see of Zevism so far. I find it extremely compatible with Platonism which is why I gravitated to it so quickly even though I've only encountered it about a week ago and haven't even had the time to do my initiation ritual yet (I'm in the process of gathering the candles etc)

 

[MercuryWisdom]

I'm new to Zevism, so I'm still learning all the details of how it works, so maybe I just missed a post where this was discussed but I'll ask here anyways

I've noticed there doesn't seem to be a focus on traditional forms of Pagan prayer like for example reciting a Homeric hymn to Apollo whilst burning incense

As a Pagan this has been my morning daily practice, where I offer a sacrifice of incense and recite a short poem of praise to the Gods. Organised based on the day such as Tyr on Tuesday and the Greek Gods who are associated with his archetype. In fact this has been largely what it means to me to be a Pagan. That and learning about the theology and ethics via philosophy like Platonism for example

(I don't mean the Gods aren't real when I say archetype btw, it's just for lack of a better word. They are absolutely real beings)

My question is, do Zevists only do meditation rituals or do they also have a daily practice of praise/worship of the Gods? Or is this maybe something personal that each Zevist is free to add on to the core program of meditation. Or is it even more mystical where the Guardian Daimon of the Zevist will guide them to the forms of worship most appropriate for them?

p.s. I do love what I see of Zevism so far. I find it extremely compatible with Platonism which is why I gravitated to it so quickly even though I've only encountered it about a week ago and haven't even had the time to do my initiation ritual yet (I'm in the process of gathering the candles etc)

Welcome here! We are so happy to have you.

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It can be personal. You can have an altar, write poetry to the Gods, have invocations, meditate on the Sigils or other forms of prayer and praise that suit you.

 

[Henu the Great]

I am sure many do, but it is not something you have to do. Much of this is a personal preference, and there are many ways to connect with Gods. We are a global community, after all.

 

[Ancient Oracle]

Some have a pagan alter with candles and incense and pray to their respective deity.

I have candles, but haven't used them for a while, but I burn incense sometimes.
We don't use the word "sacrifice" here because it smacks of the Abrahamic practises.

 

[Sungio13]

The power rituals in Temple of Zeus is a core method, but these can be also done with lighting an insense prior.

Sigil meditation and prayer afterwards is also welcome, as well as writing letters to the Gods and praying/meditating afterwards upon reading your letter. Of course, lightning an incense can help with the above practices.

We do suggest anyone to pray and communicate with the Gods as often as they can to strengthen one's bond and connection. Reciting a Homeric hymn: definitely done on a personal basis and of course beneficial here.

My warmest blessings and welcome to you.

 

[Meow!]

I do recall HP Maxine mentioning in a sermon a long time ago- please don't ask me which one I can't recall the title- That she would do a prayer to Father Zeus (called Satan at that time) before she would embark on any magick..I'm really fuzzy on details But I know she did encourage prayer to the gods to help stregenth the bond. Idk if she mentions incense or not but it's a nice thing to do if your able to- if not incense then a candle is good too. After a while of most people form some kind of comfort ritual to help get themselves into the right headspace. You may find your routine changing overtime as you learn new things please make sure to embrace this change as it happens to us all and is a perfectly natural thing. Plus as always make sure to have fun with your ritual cause that's a big part of things too!

Oh before I forget congrats on finding the Path! Please make sure to read all of the TOZ and keep coming back for updates. Welcome!


Hail Father Zeus

 

[Chad Tyler]

My question is, do Zevists only do meditation rituals or do they also have a daily practice of praise/worship of the Gods? Or is this maybe something personal that each Zevist is free to add on to the core program of meditation. Or is it even more mystical where the Guardian Daimon of the Zevist will guide them to the forms of worship most appropriate for them?

Worship isn't required. You can offer hymns if you want, but in my view higher beings don't really need slave-like fawning upon them. As you can see it's an individual thing, people can range all the way through the spectrum to people who offer prayers and worship to people who aren't inclined to such thing.

Generally, most Zevists prefer to do the God rituals on the site below, which are more ceremonial complex than your daily prayers:

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The Goal of Zevism is to transform yourself into a God, so meditations and soul work is mandatory if you are to follow the path. Everything else is optional.

By the way, that "Pagan" trolls on X who told you that Zevists used to be called Satanists? It's true but misleading. It used to be called Joy of Satan and use the title Spiritual Satanism, but by "Satanism" it meant an entirely different thing that what that troll means. Even when it used the name "Satanism" it meant Esoteric Ancient Paganism. Laveyans and reverse Christians who believed in the Biblical Satan were not accepted at all, they were considered fake Satanists. Those "Pagans" on X who claim that Zevists are trying to push "Satanism" (and of course by "Satanism" they mean Laveyanism or whatever else) to Pagans didn't even read the old Joy of Satan site to see what it is about. Chances are they just looked at the name "Satan" and went full retard "HURR DURR SATAN? ABRAHAMIC! CHRISTIAN!"

A good post about this is here:

Was the old Joy of Satan site mainstream "Satanism"?

I'm addressing here a group of people who aren't satisfied with the change to the Temple of Zeus because they believe it somehow taught mainstream Satanism (i.e. Satan being a dark god, part of xianity e.t.c.). and they disagree with the name Zeus because it is very "different" from that...

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[Pammy]

I'm new to Zevism, so I'm still learning all the details of how it works, so maybe I just missed a post where this was discussed but I'll ask here anyways

I've noticed there doesn't seem to be a focus on traditional forms of Pagan prayer like for example reciting a Homeric hymn to Apollo whilst burning incense

As a Pagan this has been my morning daily practice, where I offer a sacrifice of incense and recite a short poem of praise to the Gods. Organised based on the day such as Tyr on Tuesday and the Greek Gods who are associated with his archetype. In fact this has been largely what it means to me to be a Pagan. That and learning about the theology and ethics via philosophy like Platonism for example

(I don't mean the Gods aren't real when I say archetype btw, it's just for lack of a better word. They are absolutely real beings)

My question is, do Zevists only do meditation rituals or do they also have a daily practice of praise/worship of the Gods? Or is this maybe something personal that each Zevist is free to add on to the core program of meditation. Or is it even more mystical where the Guardian Daimon of the Zevist will guide them to the forms of worship most appropriate for them?

p.s. I do love what I see of Zevism so far. I find it extremely compatible with Platonism which is why I gravitated to it so quickly even though I've only encountered it about a week ago and haven't even had the time to do my initiation ritual yet (I'm in the process of gathering the candles etc)

Hello!

Many dedicated Zevists have altars, a dedicated space for prayer, usually with incense and candles. I can't have incense because I have mild allergy to dust type of things so it is pretty much personal.

Hymns and singing, and other forms of art, certainly have a place. It is necessary for most people to ''sublime'' Neptune in this way, as it is explained here:
https://ancient-forums.com/threads/managing-and-mastering-a-prominent-neptune.298247/

I remember reading a member's testimony about how a God ritual got him singing the runes and names. I don't remember where, so I can't link it unfortunately.

Gods are certainly real and they make it known when you respectfully inquire.

Welcome! Imbolc is coming, most people dedicate on holidays.

 

[Voice of Enki [SG]]

I'm new to Zevism, so I'm still learning all the details of how it works, so maybe I just missed a post where this was discussed but I'll ask here anyways

I've noticed there doesn't seem to be a focus on traditional forms of Pagan prayer like for example reciting a Homeric hymn to Apollo whilst burning incense

As a Pagan this has been my morning daily practice, where I offer a sacrifice of incense and recite a short poem of praise to the Gods. Organised based on the day such as Tyr on Tuesday and the Greek Gods who are associated with his archetype. In fact this has been largely what it means to me to be a Pagan. That and learning about the theology and ethics via philosophy like Platonism for example

(I don't mean the Gods aren't real when I say archetype btw, it's just for lack of a better word. They are absolutely real beings)

My question is, do Zevists only do meditation rituals or do they also have a daily practice of praise/worship of the Gods? Or is this maybe something personal that each Zevist is free to add on to the core program of meditation. Or is it even more mystical where the Guardian Daimon of the Zevist will guide them to the forms of worship most appropriate for them?

p.s. I do love what I see of Zevism so far. I find it extremely compatible with Platonism which is why I gravitated to it so quickly even though I've only encountered it about a week ago and haven't even had the time to do my initiation ritual yet (I'm in the process of gathering the candles etc)

Greetings Eric, Welcome to the Temple of Zeus,

Daily meditation should be seen as a Hymm to the Gods.

The practice of meditation, Power Meditation and Awareness Meditation from the Temple of Zeus, transforms your soul into a vessel capable of receiving the Divine. When you do these practices, you are doing a very high form of prayer, not a passive worship, but an active participation in Their teaching, and a true acknowledgement of your own being and Their Being in turn.


Then we have very powerful Rituals to our many Gods, in the form of True Theurgy, restored from lost Ancient practices and sources, where you put in practice the fruits of your labour of meditation and open the gates to the Divine, to directly approach and connect with the Gods, through Divine Names and Symbols which establish direct connection with Them, bring you into Their Domains, and manifest Them inside your own Soul as well, very sacred and profound connection is made, real attention is received, and Faith is made real.

Here is the website which holds the links to all the God Rituals we have at the moment, have a look and see what Theurgy is like:
https://tozrituals.org


We have Ritual Schedules on going almost every day, hosted by our Clergy, or some of our Supreme Guardians. When a schedule is on going, it is announced in by the Clergy which Rituals and for which Gods we are doing them. We are concluding a schedule today, and soon there will be more.

You will find when you practice this path, true connection and worship is very different from what you might have learned in the past, and nowhere there are ways as powerful and as direct as what you will receive by the Spiritual Path of Zevism here.


Besides those things, the practice of speaking to the Gods, or making prayers in other forms, are very good. Ultimately, you can personalize your worship, so long as it fits the ethics of the Gods. Many Zevists make personalized Altars, use incense, candles, make prayers to the Gods that are self written and personalized, these help set the right mood and help one feel immersed in the practice of Zevism and worship of the Gods.

The orphic Hymms are quite nice as odes to the Gods, and can help one set the mood for meditation and rituals, but they wouldn't be considered as true prayer in the Zevist sense.