Do people deserve it?

[WiseDragon]

Gentiles who have a really bad natal chart with strong tendencies towards misfortune and disasters. People who are very violent or insane ecc. All of this is in their soul. But did they deserve to end up there? Or it just happened?

 

[Desdemona_666]

Does anyone really deserve it?


~65 million years ago, when asteroid hit the Yucatan peninsula, was that really fair? Did dinosaurs really deserve such destiny?


It looks to me that this Universe doesn't care about being compassionate. It's just what it is. And all of us have either to fight to ensure our survival, or slowly wither away and disappear.

 

[ShadowTheRaven]

The universe, all in all, doesn't give a single solitary fuck. If you wanna view that as suffering for the sake of character development, so be it. But suffering because you did something in a previous life, if that's true, then tell me what the fuck did I do?! Was I the one who flew the goddamn Enola Gay? Or was I doing raids with Genghis Khan, and massacred a fuckton of people across the entire continent of Asia? Karmic retribution, the universe doesn't recognize good or evil, it just was, is, and will be.

 

[Gearshift]

What about effects of past lives based on South Node/North Node?

So basically what did I do in my past life or lives that like Powstanie said gives such effects. I'm sure there is a "natural karmic punishment" not because the Universe works like that but of the enemy.

For example it's been mentioned growing up in an abusive home. Well if non of the enemy garbage happened how would we be raised to counter-effect the negatives of our chart.

For example I recall recently seeing a video of an astrologer speaking about Leo people. And the funny thing is she said avoiding giving them love, respect, and affection hurts Leos a lot. In other words it's not a matter of spoiling the child particularly the Leo aspect of their chart you should provide them with love and affection like any other child to counter-act the negatives of Leo.

So if your Saturnian in nature like Powstanie then maybe having a proper eugenically sound and spiritual society subverts the natural effects of the astrological Universal effects. That's my 2 cents on the subject.

For example say your chart shows a very weak Saturnian bony person. Well funny enough in a proper civilization your body is very sound and great and on top of that your family encourages you to exercise and develop your body to the fullest thus further sublimating the effects of the negative chart.

Sometimes I wonder if eugenic and appropriate astrological calculations to have a child are methods by which the Gods sublimate people who may get stuck in a crappy body instead come into a proper body. Like I said subvert natures negatives with proper civilization and appropriate astrological factors even IF some present a two-face or double-edge approach positives with negatives as well like say a Plutonic aspect or a hard aspect like a Square.

 

[Jack]

This question assumes there is someone who can judge you and thus judge whether you deserve it or not as a universal constant, which does not exist.There is no universal force that will judge you and decide whether you go to hell or heaven .Your astrology exists as such due to the karma of your previous lives and the things you can do to get over it are workings with squares,runes and freeing the soul workings. Abstraction on this topic will lead to no fruitful discussion because the basic assumption behind it is faulty.

 

[SilentFlame]

Short answer, no. They often do not. If anything had gone well in this world, the enemy never would've gotten a significant hold on society whatsoever. Now, thanks to the way the world is now, many people get horrifically raped, murdered, die of starvation or disease for no good reason, and live under the constant threat of nuclear war that might have already destroyed everyone if not for the countless miracles so far likely provided by the Gods to make that not happen.

It is usually not going to be past life karma, it is just the chaotic nature of the world that causes this. Some people die without deserving it. And based on what the HPs say, some even get erased from existence without 'deserving' it. And then they're gone forever. We just have to try to not be those people, and stop the world from being nuked down to nothingness, in which case probably most of us would suffer the same fate unless the souls of some of us were taken to safety on another world something. Yes, the world getting destroyed and tons of souls disappearing would seem like quite a horrifying possibility, but it all seems to logically be there as the HPs have stated in the past as what happens when a soul doesn't ever get to reincarnate in another body of the same race.