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Did Satan "create" the universe?

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We all know the various theories of creation: Big Bang, fictitious God creating earth in 7 days, etc.

My question is: Did Satan create the universe?

As you can tell by context clues, I am a total noob at Satanism. I read many excerpts from the main website, and there is still a wealth of information that I have to go through. So I apologize in advance if this answer is easily available on the main site, but I think it is a good question to discuss.
 
No. The Universe created Satan. The Universe has always existed; Satan has not.
 
CrossRoadsPedestrian said:
We all know the various theories of creation: Big Bang, fictitious God creating earth in 7 days, etc.

My question is: Did Satan create the universe?

As you can tell by context clues, I am a total noob at Satanism. I read many excerpts from the main website, and there is still a wealth of information that I have to go through. So I apologize in advance if this answer is easily available on the main site, but I think it is a good question to discuss.
Nope
 
Are we sure that the universe has always existed?

To OP. Satan did not create the universe but maybe He created this solar system, or maybe He just bound our chakras to the planets in it.
 
Creation implies a beginning, but time doesn’t work this way. It isn’t linear. Our perception interprets it that way, since WE as individuals have a beginning and because of that it’s hard to comprehend time the way it is.

So there is no beginning and thus no creation event.
 
The Universe has always existed and it's Infinite, The Akasha (fifth element) has infinite potential, Satan and other Gods are ancient beings.
 
Eric13 said:
Creation implies a beginning, but time doesn’t work this way. It isn’t linear. Our perception interprets it that way, since WE as individuals have a beginning and because of that it’s hard to comprehend time the way it is.

So there is no beginning and thus no creation event.
My favorite analogy is the comparison of time with space.

We have no trouble accepting that space is infinite.You can go as far as you want in a direction, and then you can always go further. The same applies to time. If you go as far back in time as you want, you can always keep going.

In our scientific observations, nothing can come from nothing. Matter and energy are interchangeable but conserved. The amount remains constant as it changes form. Why, then, would this law have been spontaneously broken in a "big bang"? It seems much more likely that the amount of matter and energy has always been constant, which, of course, implies that the universe has always existed.
 
The way that I think of it is that the universe is cyclic, seeing as how all other things in nature operate based on cycles. There may never have been the big bang, but there may have been a big bang. Many of them, actually. My theory is that a cycle begins with a big bang, expands, slows down, and eventually collapses back into a single point to restart the process.

But obviously there is no good evidence for any of this. It still doesn't answer the question of where it all came from, and where the originator of it came from, and its originator in turn, and blahblahblah everyone knows the story. Doubt even Satan would know. But it doesn't matter either way, all that matters is that we're here, for however insignificant a moment it is in the grand scheme of things. And it may not be forever, nor for very long at that.

I put questions like this in the same level of kookery as ones like "what if we live in a simulation". It's just pointless mental gymnastics and your life doesn't change with or without the answer. The answer would never ever matter anyway since what would you be able to do with it, as insignificant as you are by comparison, or about it in case the universe did have a crunch cycle?

Nothing. You are less to the universe than what a dust mite is to an elephant.

The only other thing I can add is that in a sermon from the 00s it was mentioned that the universe is triangular. There is nothing beyond this area.
 
Thanks everyone for your input.

Big takeaways from this discussion:

- Universe has always existed - Matter/energy are interchangeable but conserved. The amount remains constant as it changes form
- Satan and other beings are ancient Gods
- Satan did not create the universe but maybe He created this solar system, or maybe He just bound our chakras to the planets in it.
- Its hard for we as individuals to comprehend this because we automatically see things as linear since we have a beginning and end
- Big Bang is retarded because wtf was before it?


I have follow up questions:

How did the Universe - (sum of all matter and energy?) create Satan and other Gods?
How ancient is Satan in comparison to the humans and other beings - can we measure this in years?
In what major ways did ancient humans act differently before and after they met Satan? Or did Satan create humans?
 
Thanks everyone for your input.

Big takeaways from this discussion:

- Universe has always existed - Matter/energy are interchangeable but conserved. The amount remains constant as it changes form
- Satan and other beings are ancient Gods
- Satan did not create the universe but maybe He created this solar system, or maybe He just bound our chakras to the planets in it.
- Its hard for we as individuals to comprehend this because we automatically see things as linear since we have a beginning and end
- Big Bang is retarded because wtf was before it?


I have follow up questions:

How did the Universe - (sum of all matter and energy?) create Satan and other Gods?
How ancient is Satan in comparison to the humans and other beings - can we measure this in years?
In what major ways did ancient humans act differently before and after they met Satan? Or did Satan create humans?
 
CrossRoadsPedestrian said:
Thanks everyone for your input.

Big takeaways from this discussion:

- Universe has always existed - Matter/energy are interchangeable but conserved. The amount remains constant as it changes form
- Satan and other beings are ancient Gods
- Satan did not create the universe but maybe He created this solar system, or maybe He just bound our chakras to the planets in it.
- Its hard for we as individuals to comprehend this because we automatically see things as linear since we have a beginning and end
- Big Bang is retarded because wtf was before it?


I have follow up questions:

How did the Universe - (sum of all matter and energy?) create Satan and other Gods?
How ancient is Satan in comparison to the humans and other beings - can we measure this in years?
In what major ways did ancient humans act differently before and after they met Satan? Or did Satan create humans?
Evolution created Satan Who in turn created us.
Satan is part of an alien race that advanced to godhead and came to earth where He created us to expand His empire.
 
I still find it neat how life existed far before any conceivable prospect of our own little circle of existence, even the gods. Things like the dinosaurs existed long, LONG before even Satan came into being. It's a massive world of worlds out there and I find that to be extremely fascinating and incredible. We think our souls potentially having existed for a couple hundred years here on Earth is a lot with a few reincarnations but there is so much more beyond that potential.

Who knows what kind of beings exist out in the universe given how seemingly endless it is, I wouldn't doubt there's something out there with the power to crush entire solar systems with one swift move. Brings a shudder of ecstasy at even the mere possibility of potential for such powers and capabilities.
 
The Sol Solar System was just a lucky find I guess, 3 life-giving planets a stone-throw away.

It's possible the reason why Satan wants this territory back is not just because they found it and found 3 rarities among the Solar system. But it's possible in the far future Phaeton could be rematerielized.

We all know Mars and Phaeton met a terrible end, worse for Phaeton. The Earth is in a coma right now waiting for the Gods. But I think far in the future it might be possible to rematerialize Phaeton, i.e. work on it astrally as above and as below physically recreate it.

Along with removing all the hostile junk i.e. Phaetonic trash of the asteroid belt and rings around Saturn, Neptune, and Uranus.

My best guess is EVENTUALLY at some point far in the future the Empire of Orion could reach the area of development of recreating planets. Albeit even if all the Gods and humans poured countless rituals into doing so it would take an incredible amount of time and effort to do it. It's kinda like biokinesis except for making a planet.

It's like recently been said how humanity is about 500K years old. If we were 500 million or billion, the enemy ET threat would have never come in fact we'd probably have conquered the entire milky way.
 
Ghost in the Machine said:
I still find it neat how life existed far before any conceivable prospect of our own little circle of existence, even the gods. Things like the dinosaurs existed long, LONG before even Satan came into being. It's a massive world of worlds out there and I find that to be extremely fascinating and incredible. We think our souls potentially having existed for a couple hundred years here on Earth is a lot with a few reincarnations but there is so much more beyond that potential.
At the risk of sounding like a broken record... since the Universe is so...well, old is not the right word, but yeah - one could exist, or have existed, much stronger than Satan and the Gods and Goddesses combined times 6 million (hehe). Surely, Satan and the Gods and Goddesses know. Who existed at the time of the dinosaurs? The Universe is so "old" that forever into history not just lower-intelligence beings would have existed. Perhaps the Big Daddy who is so much more powerful is the Master of Masters at kolinahr (Star Trek's Vulcan Void meditation of killing all emotions, and adhering to pure logic) and is not letting Ours know about him/her/it/them!

Having thought about these types of things, I would not be the least bit surprised if the species of reptillians, similar species, and whomever else were millions or billions (or x-illions...) of years older than Humanoids. Our DNA is more precious than a quadruple-platinum record covered in gold and encrusted with pure diamonds with neon lights around it, and they want it from us. So they can try and become immortal also? Interesting, if true. They saw a new thing pop-up and they want it.

Who knows what kind of beings exist out in the universe given how seemingly endless it is, I wouldn't doubt there's something out there with the power to crush entire solar systems with one swift move. Brings a shudder of ecstasy at even the mere possibility of potential for such powers and capabilities.
Seeing the different ideas for alien species in science fiction - and some of them are down right stupid - you never know! :lol: Yeah, why not. Let your imagination run wild!
 
FancyMancy said:
Either that, or the consciousness of the Universe, with us in it, is a literal organic brain and we're the tiny pieces inside it, with the stars the neurons and electrical impulses, and all of these and other things which are within it, and because "the edge of the Universe is the edge of consciousness" then we can never exceed it, because as we learn our brains increase in mass and size and density, making more connections; as this Universe brain has more consciousness - yin and yang of creation and creatures, etc. - it increases. The reason it appears so vast is because we're so small within it, like neutrinos which are so tiny that even in a sheet of lead as thick as the distance from Earth to Moon, the neutrino wouldn't hit a single lead bit - we're in the living Universe Being's Brain, so vast and distant, as neutrinos are in this thickness of lead.

While some would wish that to be true, I, myself, having just invented this idea, thinks it is stupid and silly.
Actually, I think it may not be so far off. The impression that I get from some of the newer sermons, and one I've sensed for a long time, is that lifeforms sprung up as a way for the universe to experience itself, as well as to aid itself in its actualization through creation and creating higher forms of order. Similar in a way to how people use each other as mirrors, conduits and projection screens. It's not so much about here is "me" and there is "you", as "you" or "others" are just a way for the perciever to percieve itself.

Rather, relationships form because of similarities between people(nominally; there can be special circumstances that produce exceptions), where egos blend together and a sense of otherness is reduced. "Me" and "you", once separate, combine to form one "we/us", but still remain separate consciousnesses that percieve what one alone can't percieve, that primarily being itself, as well as multiplying their capacity to work and create and gratify themselves. To accomplish what you were meant to do, through others, using them as a conduit for your(and by extension, their) will. That seems to be the essence of the relation between life and the universe.

I'm sure I'm not making any sense, but for me it puts into perspective of why we're here, how Satan is like an avatar for nature, the ether, universe or whatever you want to call it, and why anything that goes against nature/the universe is not long for this world. An invention that fails to accomplish anything its creator wants it to do will seldom see the light of day and will deteriorate in its neglect.

Not to say that we're special or important, of course. Just that life can't have formed for no reason if the universe has a consciousness. The kundalini was described as having consciousness, but not as we know it. Sort of a plantlike lifeform, but more sophisticated. Maybe "nature" is similar.

As for the shape of the universe, it was only mentioned in passing that it was triangular. I assume it's pyramidal since it being a triangular 2d plane with 3d objects makes even less sense to me. I always thought it would have been spherical at the most, but whatever. It's in one of the 00s sermon volumes if you want to search.
 
CrossRoadsPedestrian said:
We all know the various theories of creation: Big Bang, fictitious God creating earth in 7 days, etc.

My question is: Did Satan create the universe?

As you can tell by context clues, I am a total noob at Satanism. I read many excerpts from the main website, and there is still a wealth of information that I have to go through. So I apologize in advance if this answer is easily available on the main site, but I think it is a good question to discuss.


Yes Father Satan created the universe and all planets and the earth and the sun and all humans aka gentiles
Father Satan is all powerful God
 
Kath el said:
Pythia said Father Satan is all powerful
That means Father Satan is all powerful
Pythia literally said I place myself under thy all powerful protection
To see her say that go to jos rites and celebrations
And then press satanic rituals then press prayer of protection
That means Father Satan is all powerful
When I was new, around year ago, I made a thread asking about this, I recommend you to read it (use search function on my profile). I remember there were answers given by HPZM going into details.
As I said earlier too, you need to deprogram from the abrahamic definition of "God".
 
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Here's the answer I got from Cobra:
The idea of an "almighty God" is an unreal evaluation made as a false claim by xianity. It does not exist in the real universe. We do not ascribe to this idea. This idea coming from the enemy is a total lie as you can see, since, they are not "almighty".

Satan can be "almighty" when it comes to affairs, locations, places, planets, or segments of existence. But omnipotent almighty-ness is not the case. This is why the enemy is at war with us and we with them.

The term almighty can be used in a notion to show the above, in speech, and is not strictly a literal claim. "Almighty" also has to do with the encompassing power of the 7th Chakra which can appear to be "Infinite".

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Here's the link to the thread:
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=250865#p250865
 
Serbon said:
Here's the answer I got from Cobra:
The idea of an "almighty God" is an unreal evaluation made as a false claim by xianity. It does not exist in the real universe. We do not ascribe to this idea. This idea coming from the enemy is a total lie as you can see, since, they are not "almighty".

Satan can be "almighty" when it comes to affairs, locations, places, planets, or segments of existence. But omnipotent almighty-ness is not the case. This is why the enemy is at war with us and we with them.

The term almighty can be used in a notion to show the above, in speech, and is not strictly a literal claim. "Almighty" also has to do with the encompassing power of the 7th Chakra which can appear to be "Infinite".

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Here's the link to the thread:
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=250865#p250865

High priestess Pythia said Father Satan is all powerful God that means Father Satan is all powerful God
Whatever Pythia says is true
No matter what
I even showed y’all where high priestess Pythia said that
 
Kath el said:
Serbon said:
Here's the answer I got from Cobra:
The idea of an "almighty God" is an unreal evaluation made as a false claim by xianity. It does not exist in the real universe. We do not ascribe to this idea. This idea coming from the enemy is a total lie as you can see, since, they are not "almighty".

Satan can be "almighty" when it comes to affairs, locations, places, planets, or segments of existence. But omnipotent almighty-ness is not the case. This is why the enemy is at war with us and we with them.

The term almighty can be used in a notion to show the above, in speech, and is not strictly a literal claim. "Almighty" also has to do with the encompassing power of the 7th Chakra which can appear to be "Infinite".

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Here's the link to the thread:
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=250865#p250865

High priestess Pythia said Father Satan is all powerful God that means Father Satan is all powerful God
Whatever Pythia says is true
No matter what
I even showed y’all where high priestess Pythia said that
Did you even read Cobra's explanation? Read the other posts on the thread aswell
 
Kath el said:
Serbon said:
Here's the answer I got from Cobra:
The idea of an "almighty God" is an unreal evaluation made as a false claim by xianity. It does not exist in the real universe. We do not ascribe to this idea. This idea coming from the enemy is a total lie as you can see, since, they are not "almighty".

Satan can be "almighty" when it comes to affairs, locations, places, planets, or segments of existence. But omnipotent almighty-ness is not the case. This is why the enemy is at war with us and we with them.

The term almighty can be used in a notion to show the above, in speech, and is not strictly a literal claim. "Almighty" also has to do with the encompassing power of the 7th Chakra which can appear to be "Infinite".

---------
Here's the link to the thread:
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=250865#p250865

High priestess Pythia said Father Satan is all powerful God that means Father Satan is all powerful God
Whatever Pythia says is true
No matter what
I even showed y’all where high priestess Pythia said that

It's a prayer. It's allegorical, not literal. You're taking things too literally.
 
Kath el said:

You keep saying strange things that are just not true. You basically act like a chritian or muslim, but instead of jesus or allah you say the name Satan. But your ideas about them are the same.

You should stop thinking in this way, and instead start thinking rationally about Truth.
 
Serbon said:
Kath el said:
Serbon said:
Here's the answer I got from Cobra:
The idea of an "almighty God" is an unreal evaluation made as a false claim by xianity. It does not exist in the real universe. We do not ascribe to this idea. This idea coming from the enemy is a total lie as you can see, since, they are not "almighty".

Satan can be "almighty" when it comes to affairs, locations, places, planets, or segments of existence. But omnipotent almighty-ness is not the case. This is why the enemy is at war with us and we with them.

The term almighty can be used in a notion to show the above, in speech, and is not strictly a literal claim. "Almighty" also has to do with the encompassing power of the 7th Chakra which can appear to be "Infinite".

---------
Here's the link to the thread:
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=250865#p250865

High priestess Pythia said Father Satan is all powerful God that means Father Satan is all powerful God
Whatever Pythia says is true
No matter what
I even showed y’all where high priestess Pythia said that
Did you even read Cobra's explanation? Read the other posts on the thread aswell

Brother/sister listen to me
Whatever Pythia says is right
Because Pythia is the only reason why we satanist win in the end
High priestess Pythia is the reason why father Satan aka God and the gods are free
High priestess Pythia is the first to beat Yahweh aka greys
High priestess Pythia is the first real satanist
High priestess Pythia is the reason why we have the Ritual
High priestess Pythia is the greatest of all!
So whatever Pythia says is true
And there is nothing anybody can say or do to change that

I will love Pythia for eternity because Pythia is the only reason why we satanist win in the end

Hail High priestess Pythia aka the greatest of all!
Hail Father Satan aka all powerful God
Hail Baal Zebul king of the gods
 
Kath el said:
Brother/sister listen to me
Whatever Pythia says is right
Because Pythia is the only reason why we satanist win in the end
High priestess Pythia is the reason why father Satan aka God and the gods are free
High priestess Pythia is the first to beat Yahweh aka greys
High priestess Pythia is the first real satanist
High priestess Pythia is the reason why we have the Ritual
High priestess Pythia is the greatest of all!
So whatever Pythia says is true
And there is nothing anybody can say or do to change that

I will love Pythia for eternity because Pythia is the only reason why we satanist win in the end

Hail High priestess Pythia aka the greatest of all!
Hail Father Satan aka all powerful God
Hail Baal Zebul king of the gods
Cobra doesn't contradict Pythia, he just explained in detail what this means
 
Serbon said:
Kath el said:
Brother/sister listen to me
Whatever Pythia says is right
Because Pythia is the only reason why we satanist win in the end
High priestess Pythia is the reason why father Satan aka God and the gods are free
High priestess Pythia is the first to beat Yahweh aka greys
High priestess Pythia is the first real satanist
High priestess Pythia is the reason why we have the Ritual
High priestess Pythia is the greatest of all!
So whatever Pythia says is true
And there is nothing anybody can say or do to change that

I will love Pythia for eternity because Pythia is the only reason why we satanist win in the end

Hail High priestess Pythia aka the greatest of all!
Hail Father Satan aka all powerful God
Hail Baal Zebul king of the gods
Cobra doesn't contradict Pythia, he just explained in detail what this means
Exactly
 

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