Democratic Socialists of America

[Powstanie Pogańskie]

Point of personal privilege, quick point of personal privilege.

Hi, Pow-Pog here, he/him pronouns, HP Don I noticed that this post is fairly lengthy which I'm not really able to read due to excess visual stimulation causing me stress, if we could all be comradely and type succinctly for everyone sensitive to these types of stimuli that'd be beautiful.

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On a serious note, as goofy as that whole scene was, that mentality has multiple platforms these days; it was already seeping into public policy before they started being more open about the fact that this is literally just forced acceptance of people's personal sensibilities, since one end result of such forced acceptance is highly limited, highly controlled dialogue. Ideally - and there are instances of this occurring, like this example - the unsustainable nature of their ideology will turn them against each other, but if they keep at their activities uncontested, they'll keep building themselves up until and after they have the sway to maintain strict political and social control.

Makes you wonder why the fancy term in Europe is "Democratic Socialism" where you find all the Communists below, hiding for years now and only working the classic Communist plan of usurping and ruining a nation.

I think it was on Wikipedia that I was reading about the 1989 revolutions, and one of the listed outcomes outright said that communists rebranded themselves as democratic socialists since it was kinda hard at that point to defend communism as a functional system and ideology.

It's hard to say, if the democratic socialists were to win, if this would eventually lead to people accepting the label of "communism" once more - but it's rather moot either way, since what you call the system doesn't matter when the mindset, goals and strategies are without difference.

 

[JoS Forum Contributions]

The way to reform capitalism is to use debt free, fiat currency with basic regulations to prevent inflation, low taxes, ethical wages for the workers and no globalization of the national job market and now banning automation in non essential sectors and ending monopolies. This would create an economy with high employment to total employment rates, major personal businesses being successfully run and built and high standards of living. Then everything else can be taken care of with public sector investment of taxes with new technologies together at low cost.

 

[Aquarius]

The way to reform capitalism is to use debt free, fiat currency with basic regulations to prevent inflation, low taxes, ethical wages for the workers and no globalization of the national job market and now banning automation in non essential sectors and ending monopolies. This would create an economy with high employment to total employment rates, major personal businesses being successfully run and built and high standards of living. Then everything else can be taken care of with public sector investment of taxes with new technologies together at low cost.

Something that is bothering me is the taxes on the home...It feels like even in “democratic” countries you can’t even really “own” your own house, as you have to pay these fucking taxes for something that is totally yours. Are they parassitic taxes that will have to be abolished? I really hope yes.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

There are some specific types of taxes which are Feudal and Unconstitutional by definition in most countries but they are enforced anyway.

These taxes are by all means unfounded in modern society, however, due to how convenient these taxes are and how people are forced by definition to pay them, governments are frequently tempted in Europe to put these taxes, for the usual robbing the people situation.

Said taxes on property and merely owning land, are unconstitutional in most countries, yet are imposed regardless, and they are Feudal types of taxes. The same goes for taxes imposed in some countries for having children and other types of insane taxation.

Tax for sitting idle land is as if paying rent to the state, in which case, comes into opposition to the very essence of ownership of land. Tax for the house one lives on is a vile form of taxation, and in Europe it is constitutionally forbidden in most countries, but applied anyway.

Due to the fact of the above, the taxes are imposed through other bills - electricity, water supply, what have you, things one cannot avoid.

Basically the only two taxes that make sense are the income tax, and the tax on purchases of goods and service exchange. Maybe there is also an argument for wealth accumulation tax, as the above can be craftily evaded.

All the rest is subject to debate, and much of it a product of insanity and scheming to pillage people on every corner.

The way to reform capitalism is to use debt free, fiat currency with basic regulations to prevent inflation, low taxes, ethical wages for the workers and no globalization of the national job market and now banning automation in non essential sectors and ending monopolies. This would create an economy with high employment to total employment rates, major personal businesses being successfully run and built and high standards of living. Then everything else can be taken care of with public sector investment of taxes with new technologies together at low cost.

Something that is bothering me is the taxes on the home...It feels like even in “democratic” countries you can’t even really “own” your own house, as you have to pay these fucking taxes for something that is totally yours. Are they parassitic taxes that will have to be abolished? I really hope yes.

 

[Aquarius]

There are some specific types of taxes which are Feudal and Unconstitutional by definition in most countries but they are enforced anyway.

These taxes are by all means unfounded in modern society, however, due to how convenient these taxes are and how people are forced by definition to pay them, governments are frequently tempted in Europe to put these taxes, for the usual robbing the people situation.

Said taxes on property and merely owning land, are unconstitutional in most countries, yet are imposed regardless, and they are Feudal types of taxes. The same goes for taxes imposed in some countries for having children and other types of insane taxation.

Tax for sitting idle land is as if paying rent to the state, in which case, comes into opposition to the very essence of ownership of land. Tax for the house one lives on is a vile form of taxation, and in Europe it is constitutionally forbidden in most countries, but applied anyway.

Due to the fact of the above, the taxes are imposed through other bills - electricity, water supply, what have you, things one cannot avoid.

Basically the only two taxes that make sense are the income tax, and the tax on purchases of goods and service exchange. Maybe there is also an argument for wealth accumulation tax, as the above can be craftily evaded.

All the rest is subject to debate, and much of it a product of insanity and scheming to pillage people on every corner.

The way to reform capitalism is to use debt free, fiat currency with basic regulations to prevent inflation, low taxes, ethical wages for the workers and no globalization of the national job market and now banning automation in non essential sectors and ending monopolies. This would create an economy with high employment to total employment rates, major personal businesses being successfully run and built and high standards of living. Then everything else can be taken care of with public sector investment of taxes with new technologies together at low cost.

Something that is bothering me is the taxes on the home...It feels like even in “democratic” countries you can’t even really “own” your own house, as you have to pay these fucking taxes for something that is totally yours. Are they parassitic taxes that will have to be abolished? I really hope yes.

Thanks a lot, my thought are founded then.

 

[JoS Forum Contributions]

I wrote an article on the Fabian society awhile ago, its probably in the Library section of the JoS if you want to read it.

Thanks for the great info (in both of your replies) HP Mageson666 -- I love to learn about this!

 

[Gearshift]

The Federal Income Tax was brought to you by the same Yehubor Bankers who gifted us with the Federal Reserve. The legislation for both were passed sneaky in the middle of the night. For like 150 years the Federal Gov't had gotten by with Tariffs, Excise Taxes and other Biz taxes the average person did not pay. Then they decided to just milk all the Goy.

There have been a few people who successfully sued the IRS proving the Income Tax is Unconstitutional, but this is so difficult as to be almost impossible and the result is always covered up.

Needless to say everyone is so brainwashed that the Tax is needed and perhaps the Gov't blows so much money it is. It would take a revolution to get rid of it. Of course taxes is just a game to control the people, the FED prints money out of thin air, they don't really need your "money".

This is interesting, mind expanding further on this topic?

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

NL is an applied socialism state, in action. So there is no middle class but a middle class that is ruined on taxes, a lower class that just goes by taking free stuff, and a high class that probably operates beyond the reach of everyone or has all their money elsewhere to avoid the paranoid taxation rate.

This European Socialism model is pulling in all the invaders to cash 3000$ to 6000$ per month depending on number of their offspring just for sitting under the sun, while the National pay on some countries hardly exceeds 1000$ for the natives.

Enjoy applied "compassion".

The people live under Marxist Socialism the property, money and political power is owned by the state the Church along with most of the land. The majority of the population lives under Communism they own no property, have no rights and live communally and work for the state the Church, and all goods made after giving the majority to the state as poverty level taxes are then distributed to the community each according to their need by the state the local Church officials. This is why there was no progress in Europe of that much note for nearly eight hundred years. Marx stated in the Communist Manifesto he was not giving people something they already didn't have under feudalism.

This sounds a lot like the current state in NL. The people on the poverty line don't earn more, the middle class is overtaxed and pushed down to about the same buying power as the ones on the poverty line - but those on the poverty line often get all kinds of financial help, i.e. with rent and paying their health insurance.

The flooding of those foreigners called for the increase in tax, they're overcrowding the country, causing the pricing for houses to rise, rental or to buy them.

They say that it is luxury here, that we have a higher standard of living with saying that 'everyone has the right to have a roof above their head' which basicly means that everyone has the right to have shelter.

I don't think that it is different in any other european country though. Just saying.

Neither does it say that it is a right to have food and clothing (but there are instances for that where you can get that for 'free' if your income is too low to pay for it).

I was taking a look at the disks on which the income is taxed and then I found this picture:
https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/belastingplan/belastingwijzigingen-voor-ons-allemaal/tweeschijvenstelsel-inkomstenbelasting

From a 4 disk system they want to go to a two disk system. By the way, this is the tax you have to pay over your netto income (I think) after one full year. Which basicly means, that you'll have to pay aside from the tax that is held in from the hours you worked (bruto).

If you ask me the two disk system they want to add in 2021 looks like they kicked the 'middle class' down so much that they can just say 'middle and lower class earn the same so we tax em the same'. Something like that, was what I was thinking.
However, it seems that over some amount of what you've earned you're not going to pay a tax anyway. Making this system somewhat confusing (and if you ask me, possibly unnecessarily complicated).

 

[TheAncientReligion666]

I wrote an article on the Fabian society awhile ago, its probably in the Library section of the JoS if you want to read it.

Thanks for the great info (in both of your replies) HP Mageson666 -- I love to learn about this!

 

[TheAncientReligion666]

Ok cool, I will check it out -- Thanks HP Mageson666!

I wrote an article on the Fabian society awhile ago, its probably in the Library section of the JoS if you want to read it.

Thanks for the great info (in both of your replies) HP Mageson666 -- I love to learn about this!