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Azorm said:
Let's all just try to calm down here and do our best to resolve this infighting. While we all saw the drama, the knowledge of people's true intentions is likely not known to all or in its entirety. Even if the full truth was known, there isn't much we can do to act. Only HPHC can ban and he of course works directly with the Gods on important security matters. Speculating, gossiping, or other actions by non-clergy cannot lead to anything conclusive and only seem to harm morale and unity.

Let's try out best to make amends and not accelerate the fighting to the point where it becomes exponentially harder to fix where it may be unfounded or unjustified.

I am not going to beg you to post, but I would ask that you don't leave the forums at least for your sake. Don't let emotional barriers keep you from the treasure trove of knowledge. Going further, there may be people that could use your experience help; people that had no place either way on the recent drama. It would be unfortunate if they were deprived due to something that had no part in.

I hope the situation improves for you and all others involved that were genuinely acting in favor of Satan and SS as a movement.
 
I should really elaborate or I will have people call me out for this I realized and get mad probably what I mean is I know Azorm is an older soul. She talked to me for a bit a while back. She remembers a better way of living the values people used to live by etc. Many even that meditate have not reached that level of understanding. I do not encourage fighting but growth in people. She is expecting everyone to be on that level of understanding it looks like and that is where she is dissapointed. There is a reason some Demons truly will not interact with mankind at all in our level even those of us with Satan. I think she is finding that out. It really is sad to say this. People should be kind to each other for the most part. Give and take things but not just take. Friends should be there for you as much as you are for them. If people's personalities don't fit they should politely move on but not do anything against another SS. We are a team. We do not work how this degenerate world works. Loyalty brotherhood and strength and honor are good things. Always trying to do the right thing no matter what our heart says or what we feel. Of course it's not wrong to question things or do things a different way unless of course it's something like the affirmations on the rtr or the tetragrammaton thing. Some things can't change or be questioned but most things can be. However that comes with knowledge. We need to advance and learn things ourself. This is what Maxine said on free thought it's not bad but there is a right way too and sometimes it's best to keep that to yourself. Unfortunately many here are just out of the normies world they don't understand the nuances of this yet. So give them time.
 
I should really elaborate or I will have people call me out for this I realized and get mad probably what I mean is I know Azorm is an older soul. She talked to me for a bit a while back. She remembers a better way of living the values people used to live by etc. Many even that meditate have not reached that level of understanding. I do not encourage fighting but growth in people. She is expecting everyone to be on that level of understanding it looks like and that is where she is dissapointed. There is a reason some Demons truly will not interact with mankind at all in our level even those of us with Satan. I think she is finding that out. It really is sad to say this. People should be kind to each other for the most part. Give and take things but not just take. Friends should be there for you as much as you are for them. If people's personalities don't fit they should politely move on but not do anything against another SS. We are a team. We do not work how this degenerate world works. Loyalty brotherhood and strength and honor are good things. Always trying to do the right thing no matter what our heart says or what we feel. Of course it's not wrong to question things or do things a different way unless of course it's something like the affirmations on the rtr or the tetragrammaton thing. Some things can't change or be questioned but most things can be. However that comes with knowledge. We need to advance and learn things ourself. This is what Maxine said on free thought it's not bad but there is a right way too and sometimes it's best to keep that to yourself. Unfortunately many here are just out of the normies world they don't understand the nuances of this yet. So give them time.
 
Azorm, it is foolish to leave over something like this, and it is foolish to let such emotional struggles between yourself and others get to you to this extend. Do not let social drama drag you down to this degree, detach from it if it's bothersome. You are letting yourself get sucked in way too much, regardless of who or what is at fault here.

I'm not going to judge on that, since I don't know or care to know what things have been going on between you and other SS behind the scenes, but I will advice you a bit.

First of, be mindful who you associate with, or if you should associate at all. The sad truth is, most association outside of the forums leads to drama and other garbage between SS as people get too involved with each other and do not understand how to respect personal boundaries and how to associate in ways pleasant and beneficial to both parties. I've seen it happen and even experienced it myself. It is rare to find a true SS friend who you can really trust and work with, and with whom you can engage socially without any sort of troubles, misunderstandings and misgivings. If you have someone like that, a true friend, you should consider yourself lucky, do not take that for granted. If you really seek a good friend, ask the Gods to help you find someone like that.

One great friend is better than a few associates who are less than ideal for you, or with whom you simply aren't compatible.

Second, don't let yourself be dragged into such mud, and devolve from reason and understanding to insulting fellow SS over personal differences... Even if other SS have wronged you, try at least to be objective here before giving your own personal judgement. Sometimes two people have their differences, and when they argue extensively about these and are at odds, they begin to detest each other and do each other all kinds of wrongs, sometimes personal differences become so heated people even go out of their way to harm each other, etc, while outside of this personal conflict these people may be completely fine and acceptable people. This applies to SS as well.

You don't have to like all SS, just don't get into conflicts which drag you both down with people whom you dislike and disagree with. If one goes a step too far and begins to cause harm, don't get dragged down into that yourself, report it to the Gods, and ask them to help you sort this out, then do your part and detach from that person and never engage with them again, leave it behind you. Even if you hate them to your guts, at least have respect for the fact the other person is a dedicated SS as well, and understand that even if they are actually idiots and fools, or worse at the present, they can change and grow in the future and become better people.

In the mean time, the other person is also likely doing their duty as an SS as well, fighting the enemy same as you should be doing, so you are still working towards the same goals and fighting on the same side, therefore it makes little sense to hold such strong grudges and let both yourself and them be dragged down into the mud due to your differences.

Then third, because people are immature and lacking in wisdom and understanding, things like this happen when people associate. SS notwithstanding. There's always two sides to such a story, and when there is such a conflict you too have fault in it, if you made no fault of your own then there wouldn't be any conflict, so have some objectivity and recognize your own part in this. You are not required or obligated to admit this anywhere or even to the person in question, but at least recognize it for yourself so you can grow past this too and won't make mistakes that can lead to such things again.

The first step would be to get of your own pedestal and understand your position and your part, and then to understand the futility and uselessness of such emotional drama, so you can move on with your life. It is pathetic to let this sort of thing get in your way and topple you over. You are making a lot of mistakes simply because your emotions have gotten the better of you. An SS needs to be better than that.

Perhaps just take a break and focus on cleaning as well as voiding and detaching from this, then come back with a fresh mind and attitude. To the other people involved in this that read this, all of this applies to you as well, do your own part and be responsible, and give each other the courtesy to move on from this so you can all get back on track and begin to advance again.

Think of the endless insults, drama, accusations and personal attacks HP HoodedCobra deals with. Try to learn from his attitude towards such nonsense. He's still here, despite all of it, and he's never let himself get absorbed in this because he knows better. People should look up to, respect and understand that, and try to apply this themselves.
 
Azorm has done nothing but help me in tough times. I am grateful for her help and advice. No matter what she feels about me.
 
VoiceofEnki said:
Azorm, it is foolish to leave over something like this, and it is foolish to let such emotional struggles between yourself and others get to you to this extend. Do not let social drama drag you down to this degree, detach from it if it's bothersome. You are letting yourself get sucked in way too much, regardless of who or what is at fault here.

I'm not going to judge on that, since I don't know or care to know what things have been going on between you and other SS behind the scenes, but I will advice you a bit.

First of, be mindful who you associate with, or if you should associate at all. The sad truth is, most association outside of the forums leads to drama and other garbage between SS as people get too involved with each other and do not understand how to respect personal boundaries and how to associate in ways pleasant and beneficial to both parties. I've seen it happen and even experienced it myself. It is rare to find a true SS friend who you can really trust and work with, and with whom you can engage socially without any sort of troubles, misunderstandings and misgivings. If you have someone like that, a true friend, you should consider yourself lucky, do not take that for granted. If you really seek a good friend, ask the Gods to help you find someone like that.

One great friend is better than a few associates who are less than ideal for you, or with whom you simply aren't compatible.

Second, don't let yourself be dragged into such mud, and devolve from reason and understanding to insulting fellow SS over personal differences... Even if other SS have wronged you, try at least to be objective here before giving your own personal judgement. Sometimes two people have their differences, and when they argue extensively about these and are at odds, they begin to detest each other and do each other all kinds of wrongs, sometimes personal differences become so heated people even go out of their way to harm each other, etc, while outside of this personal conflict these people may be completely fine and acceptable people. This applies to SS as well.

You don't have to like all SS, just don't get into conflicts which drag you both down with people whom you dislike and disagree with. If one goes a step too far and begins to cause harm, don't get dragged down into that yourself, report it to the Gods, and ask them to help you sort this out, then do your part and detach from that person and never engage with them again, leave it behind you. Even if you hate them to your guts, at least have respect for the fact the other person is a dedicated SS as well, and understand that even if they are actually idiots and fools, or worse at the present, they can change and grow in the future and become better people.

In the mean time, the other person is also likely doing their duty as an SS as well, fighting the enemy same as you should be doing, so you are still working towards the same goals and fighting on the same side, therefore it makes little sense to hold such strong grudges and let both yourself and them be dragged down into the mud due to your differences.

Then third, because people are immature and lacking in wisdom and understanding, things like this happen when people associate. SS notwithstanding. There's always two sides to such a story, and when there is such a conflict you too have fault in it, if you made no fault of your own then there wouldn't be any conflict, so have some objectivity and recognize your own part in this. You are not required or obligated to admit this anywhere or even to the person in question, but at least recognize it for yourself so you can grow past this too and won't make mistakes that can lead to such things again.

The first step would be to get of your own pedestal and understand your position and your part, and then to understand the futility and uselessness of such emotional drama, so you can move on with your life. It is pathetic to let this sort of thing get in your way and topple you over. You are making a lot of mistakes simply because your emotions have gotten the better of you. An SS needs to be better than that.

Perhaps just take a break and focus on cleaning as well as voiding and detaching from this, then come back with a fresh mind and attitude. To the other people involved in this that read this, all of this applies to you as well, do your own part and be responsible, and give each other the courtesy to move on from this so you can all get back on track and begin to advance again.

Think of the endless insults, drama, accusations and personal attacks HP HoodedCobra deals with. Try to learn from his attitude towards such nonsense. He's still here, despite all of it, and he's never let himself get absorbed in this because he knows better. People should look up to, respect and understand that, and try to apply this themselves.

When it comes to that guy he got very hateful and clearly obsessed with hating me and working against me, thinking how he has rights to do what he wants to me and that he knows how I deserve it fully, making also weird statements how I am the enemy, how I am this and that, some weird pathetic rumors against me all the time that he keeps spreading around simply because he hates me more than anyone in this world because we had bad synergy and things didn't worked well in the past. For years he is trying to turn everyone against me, as well against Shael more and more, and I tried very well to have respect over someone who has 0 respect for me and is refusing to let old matters go. Years have passed already... I thought he will eventually stop with his bs like any normal person would.


Anyways, I will try not to fight anyone anymore, I will try my best to stay away and not cause much more problems.

I also don't want go be seen as someone who works against JOS because of few people who can't stand me or who don't get me. And me having some questions sometimes about some things and not trusting everyone and everything I see is not that huge issue, I believe, but ok.
 
Azorm said:
Stormblood, you are one arroggant piece of shit that acts all mighty while in reality you would poop your pants in front of most people and would cry over it all for a whole eternity. For years you are damaging me in every possible way almost, working against me, turning people against me and spreading unbiased rumors together with sharing some of my personal data that is left with you. You are acting like a hateful rat hiding around and just inflicting damage anytime you see that it might be somewhat safe. I never tried to do anything similar to you.

So, you finally came out of the closet to libel me publicly, of course without evidence to back up any claim, as no evidence of it exists. It was not enough that you have been gossiping behind my ever since I met you and I was careless enough to share personal data of mine with you too as I did in the past with Shael.

Too bad everyone who has ever interacted with me here knows that I never share confidential data of anyone. So do the Gods too. There are no screenshots and not anything because, contrary to your own little delusions, when I decided to cut ties with you, I actually did that. So, you can tell yourself what you want. Accuse myself of cursing you or whatever you wish. The fact is I cannot be getting any repercussion for something I never did behind your back.

Do you know what unbiased means? I guess your fingers unconsciously knew it when you typed it. Unbiased means "without bias".

Instead of lying to yourself and to whomever you are in contact with about how you are being cursed or whatever, try cleaning yourself up like I told you when we were still in touch, when half of your replies where apologising for your behaviour and the other half attacking me like you're doing now. Start healing those psychological wounds and holes in your aura with Lydia's working, like I suggested you first thing, so you can start functioning properly again. Building a cult around you will not heal you of past wounds but only give you feelings of false confidence in abilities you do not have in the first place.

Or you can keep the circus going with your private contacts but next time it will be our Guardians who deal with it, the real adults. I bet you never told anyone of how I tried to help you heal yourself. That would be too much against your narrative. There is not going to be any repeat of that, as I am not the charity and neither your babysitter. I literally want nothing to do with you, so keep avoiding like you were doing before and like Shael is doing. This forum is not your own personal drama show.
 
Shanti Sananda said:
slyscorpion said:
Shanti Sananda said:
You finally learned not to blindly trust everyone here? The only way you would know what you know, is to be involved in talking to others off group.

A few things:

1. Alot here are Yehuborim, that will curse you nonstop.

2. Anytime you go talking to others and passing your info around, bad things always come of it.

Despite these warnings, people seem to continue on doing these things anyway.

If our own clergy were Yehuborim, what do you think you are going to run into? Then there may be Gentiles in the mix who out of paranoia, begin to attack. If you are protected by Satan, and have a strong aura of protection, this would be little concern to you.

Now perhaps Leaving is the best option till they stop. When you decide to reemerge next time dont let your face out. I doubt they searched like crazy Azorm and found your face. If they did, why did you have pictures with your name?

Thank you for backing me up I tried to tell her this long ago. Not to mention what I said. Unfortunately it may be to the point where physical groups wouldn't even work out right now sadly. There are some good people here and Azorm is one of them. If people are even going to chat with others randomly and just blindly trust and help them without any looking into it they will get this kind of stuff. I learned this long ago sadly and it took a lot of spiritual work to fix something someone did to me in the spiritual who I found out was a Yehubor. He had me do meditations and look at symbols and stuff I didn't even understand what any of it meant so it was dumb on my part I later learned this when I actually posted for clarification some of this stuff on the groups and some member said that was all binding and destruction not anything that guy said it was.

This taught me that you can't just trust people blindly. Some people may have to learn this the hard way sadly. I know it's not the greatest thing in the world. But most the time these days when people try to make friends both on here and in the real world sadly they will look back and say shit I wish I would have been on my own and alone.

Best thing to do is see if you can actually find one or two people not degenerated to talk to and make sure they are that and are on our side before trusting them with your info or even trusting them to begin with. I never chatted with anyone who is not an established member on here since that incident when I was starting out with the Yehubor. It's just to dangerous. Also he may have even been setting a trap in the physical cause he certainly did know a lot about the area I was in at the time even though he claimed that he was 1000 miles or more away and would tell me to go certain places at certain times for various reasons like "I will meet my soul mate" or I will find something secret. I didn't really do it much but that could have been bad. The one time I did do that the energy of where he had me go to was super weird and strong so I just left :lol: me not know fully all of what he was trying to pull off.

This is why you can't just trust people.


Explain to me what an established member is? One who writes positive stuff a lot? Did not Don do that for 15 years? This isn't too say there are not sincere members, but I would be careful with established.

An established member is someone like Lydia, who is 100% trustworthy and loyal to Satan beyond any doubt, and who has proven themselves to be of significant advancement, vastly above the majority of people here, through posts she made, wisdom she shared and work she does as a Satanist as well as help she has given many over her years with the Joy of Satan. Lydia is beyond any doubt an established dedicated Satanist that pretty much all members can learn from and look up to.

Unlike that dross you mentioned, established members have never done anything or posted anything that was of questionable nature over their years here, there have never been any grounds to even begin to suspect them as anything less than fully loyal and dedicated to the Joy of Satan, and worthy of everyone's respect and attention without question.

Members, especially those of us with psychic ability and greater wisdom than the average member here, have always had our questions and doubts regarding that dross which has since been removed. We have had issue with that thing starting quite a while back, and those of us who did and had our doubts or issues were as a result not surprised at all when the truth was finally revealed in full. Unlike what you say, they haven't been credible for a long time, and much of what they posted had been problematic for various reasons since many years ago, so despite the title that thing held for a while, there were many of us who didn't consider him as an established member whatsoever because he was undeserving of that treatment due to how he conducted himself and due to how problematic and outright blasphemous to Satan and the Gods a lot of things he posted were.


I always discern the words of others without bias and purely through the Satanic eye, to look for absolute truth and to compare what others say to the universal Spiritual Satanic Truth, therefore for me to disagree with a person on important subjects and understandings means to me that person has beliefs which are objectively wrong as I can call them into question. There are members here whose posts and sermons have only been of the highest truth, where there was nothing I could call into question because what they said rang to me as being wholly truthful when read through the Satanic eye. Those members I give special respects to, because I recognize their wisdoms are significant and they have things of value to bring to me and everyone here. I make note of them in my mind and consider them important SS, regardless of if they have any title or not or anyone else's opinion of them.

Anyone who doesn't fit that criteria is not fit to be considered a true established member, even if they might still be great SS.

This works for me because my eye is discerning enough to make such a judgement objectively. Not everyone is capable of that, so it doesn't work for everyone.

Advanced SS are generally on a similar wavelength with each other, due to us all seeking Satanic truth and being very attuned to Satanic wisdom and the wisdom/vision of our Gods, so our opinions on other people and things in general would overlap. Advanced SS recognize fellow members of the same general level, so ask any advanced SS what their thoughts are on this, they would overlap with my own.
 
Azorm said:
VoiceofEnki said:
Azorm, it is foolish to leave over something like this, and it is foolish to let such emotional struggles between yourself and others get to you to this extend. Do not let social drama drag you down to this degree, detach from it if it's bothersome. You are letting yourself get sucked in way too much, regardless of who or what is at fault here.

I'm not going to judge on that, since I don't know or care to know what things have been going on between you and other SS behind the scenes, but I will advice you a bit.

First of, be mindful who you associate with, or if you should associate at all. The sad truth is, most association outside of the forums leads to drama and other garbage between SS as people get too involved with each other and do not understand how to respect personal boundaries and how to associate in ways pleasant and beneficial to both parties. I've seen it happen and even experienced it myself. It is rare to find a true SS friend who you can really trust and work with, and with whom you can engage socially without any sort of troubles, misunderstandings and misgivings. If you have someone like that, a true friend, you should consider yourself lucky, do not take that for granted. If you really seek a good friend, ask the Gods to help you find someone like that.

One great friend is better than a few associates who are less than ideal for you, or with whom you simply aren't compatible.

Second, don't let yourself be dragged into such mud, and devolve from reason and understanding to insulting fellow SS over personal differences... Even if other SS have wronged you, try at least to be objective here before giving your own personal judgement. Sometimes two people have their differences, and when they argue extensively about these and are at odds, they begin to detest each other and do each other all kinds of wrongs, sometimes personal differences become so heated people even go out of their way to harm each other, etc, while outside of this personal conflict these people may be completely fine and acceptable people. This applies to SS as well.

You don't have to like all SS, just don't get into conflicts which drag you both down with people whom you dislike and disagree with. If one goes a step too far and begins to cause harm, don't get dragged down into that yourself, report it to the Gods, and ask them to help you sort this out, then do your part and detach from that person and never engage with them again, leave it behind you. Even if you hate them to your guts, at least have respect for the fact the other person is a dedicated SS as well, and understand that even if they are actually idiots and fools, or worse at the present, they can change and grow in the future and become better people.

In the mean time, the other person is also likely doing their duty as an SS as well, fighting the enemy same as you should be doing, so you are still working towards the same goals and fighting on the same side, therefore it makes little sense to hold such strong grudges and let both yourself and them be dragged down into the mud due to your differences.

Then third, because people are immature and lacking in wisdom and understanding, things like this happen when people associate. SS notwithstanding. There's always two sides to such a story, and when there is such a conflict you too have fault in it, if you made no fault of your own then there wouldn't be any conflict, so have some objectivity and recognize your own part in this. You are not required or obligated to admit this anywhere or even to the person in question, but at least recognize it for yourself so you can grow past this too and won't make mistakes that can lead to such things again.

The first step would be to get of your own pedestal and understand your position and your part, and then to understand the futility and uselessness of such emotional drama, so you can move on with your life. It is pathetic to let this sort of thing get in your way and topple you over. You are making a lot of mistakes simply because your emotions have gotten the better of you. An SS needs to be better than that.

Perhaps just take a break and focus on cleaning as well as voiding and detaching from this, then come back with a fresh mind and attitude. To the other people involved in this that read this, all of this applies to you as well, do your own part and be responsible, and give each other the courtesy to move on from this so you can all get back on track and begin to advance again.

Think of the endless insults, drama, accusations and personal attacks HP HoodedCobra deals with. Try to learn from his attitude towards such nonsense. He's still here, despite all of it, and he's never let himself get absorbed in this because he knows better. People should look up to, respect and understand that, and try to apply this themselves.

When it comes to that guy he got very hateful and clearly obsessed with hating me and working against me, thinking how he has rights to do what he wants to me and that he knows how I deserve it fully, making also weird statements how I am the enemy, how I am this and that, some weird pathetic rumors against me all the time that he keeps spreading around simply because he hates me more than anyone in this world because we had bad synergy and things didn't worked well in the past. For years he is trying to turn everyone against me, as well against Shael more and more, and I tried very well to have respect over someone who has 0 respect for me and is refusing to let old matters go. Years have passed already... I thought he will eventually stop with his bs like any normal person would.


Anyways, I will try not to fight anyone anymore, I will try my best to stay away and not cause much more problems.

I also don't want go be seen as someone who works against JOS because of few people who can't stand me or who don't get me. And me having some questions sometimes about some things and not trusting everyone and everything I see is not that huge issue, I believe, but ok.

Hey Azorm,

I was reading this.. and one thing comes to mind.
You are speaking about people cursing you and speaking about you behind your back and pointing fingers. But how do you know it was them? Have you got black on white proof?

Also, if you keep worrying about this, and keep it in your mind you will increase and inflate the issue, and make it bigger than that it actually is. Make an elephant out of a mosquito.
Astrally speaking, you have a negative feeling, and if you keep focussing on it more than necessary, and speaking to every single soul about it that emails you, and you only keep putting more oil in the pit of fire, of course it will explode and come to bite your arse for sure at some point.

And then you can be like 'oh but you dont know how or what this is like' (read the next paragraph) ... but I've also seen plenty of posts from you where you were upset about something, and looking for help. But I think at this point you have to come to terms with yourself, first of all.

In the past I have been in the situation where I thought I was doing good, and being well and this guy comes up to me and says, trying to be my best friend/buddy and all, and tells me 'x and y have been gossiping behind your back' and then shows up with a couple of screenshots.
The first few times, I was like 'whatever, continue on' but at some point I started caving in.
So I stuck with this 'friend' only to find out later he was some kind of mentally insane psychopath.

Also, it may be harsh of me to say this, exactly, because I have been through more or less the same issue, but if people react to you in that way, either YOU are doing something wrong or THEY are just jealous.
The only way to know which of the above is for sure, is to look at what kind of response you get. What are the rumors, exactly?

Because I for a fact do not believe that such a member is Yehuborim to begin with, nor are curses even allowed between SS.

~Lunar Dance out.
 
Shanti Sananda said:
slyscorpion said:
Shanti Sananda said:
You finally learned not to blindly trust everyone here? The only way you would know what you know, is to be involved in talking to others off group.

A few things:

1. Alot here are Yehuborim, that will curse you nonstop.

2. Anytime you go talking to others and passing your info around, bad things always come of it.

Despite these warnings, people seem to continue on doing these things anyway.

If our own clergy were Yehuborim, what do you think you are going to run into? Then there may be Gentiles in the mix who out of paranoia, begin to attack. If you are protected by Satan, and have a strong aura of protection, this would be little concern to you.

Now perhaps Leaving is the best option till they stop. When you decide to reemerge next time dont let your face out. I doubt they searched like crazy Azorm and found your face. If they did, why did you have pictures with your name?

Thank you for backing me up I tried to tell her this long ago. Not to mention what I said. Unfortunately it may be to the point where physical groups wouldn't even work out right now sadly. There are some good people here and Azorm is one of them. If people are even going to chat with others randomly and just blindly trust and help them without any looking into it they will get this kind of stuff. I learned this long ago sadly and it took a lot of spiritual work to fix something someone did to me in the spiritual who I found out was a Yehubor. He had me do meditations and look at symbols and stuff I didn't even understand what any of it meant so it was dumb on my part I later learned this when I actually posted for clarification some of this stuff on the groups and some member said that was all binding and destruction not anything that guy said it was.

This taught me that you can't just trust people blindly. Some people may have to learn this the hard way sadly. I know it's not the greatest thing in the world. But most the time these days when people try to make friends both on here and in the real world sadly they will look back and say shit I wish I would have been on my own and alone.

Best thing to do is see if you can actually find one or two people not degenerated to talk to and make sure they are that and are on our side before trusting them with your info or even trusting them to begin with. I never chatted with anyone who is not an established member on here since that incident when I was starting out with the Yehubor. It's just to dangerous. Also he may have even been setting a trap in the physical cause he certainly did know a lot about the area I was in at the time even though he claimed that he was 1000 miles or more away and would tell me to go certain places at certain times for various reasons like "I will meet my soul mate" or I will find something secret. I didn't really do it much but that could have been bad. The one time I did do that the energy of where he had me go to was super weird and strong so I just left :lol: me not know fully all of what he was trying to pull off.

This is why you can't just trust people.


Explain to me what an established member is? One who writes positive stuff a lot? Did not Don do that for 15 years? This isn't too say there are not sincere members, but I would be careful with established.

You don't have to talk to anyone online and maybe shouldn't established member is someone who is known to be loyal to the Gods and has been here awhile. Don a lot of people doubted him in fact I talked to someone on youtube back in 2010 for a bit who probably ended up leaving Satanism all together based on him (hope she comes back eventually). I closed an entire Yahoo group once I had created that was about doing sigils to help earth (maybe shouldn't have done that I realize now as I was still programmed somewhat by the enemy and was causing a lot of infighting being stupid but am not like that now) as he decided to become a member and since he was HP on JOS groups bad move to ban him but he made it very difficult for me to trust that group he kept calling me pathological and dumb etc on there. So I closed the group rather than ban him for exactly that reason I even felt a little guilty over that as he was HP here but I had my feelings. I had a strong feeling something was wrong with him so it isn't just now. People kept this stuff private till it got exposed cause he was HP. But you didn't see really anyone defending him when he was exposed for this reason. A lot of people already suspected him. I knew some of what he was saying sounded like Communist propaganda cause I actually studied that for awhile but bad move to call out an HP in my mind. I didn't want to be banned or lose respect with everyone here. Same probably with others.
 
Stormblood said:
Azorm said:
Stormblood, you are one arroggant piece of shit that acts all mighty while in reality you would poop your pants in front of most people and would cry over it all for a whole eternity. For years you are damaging me in every possible way almost, working against me, turning people against me and spreading unbiased rumors together with sharing some of my personal data that is left with you. You are acting like a hateful rat hiding around and just inflicting damage anytime you see that it might be somewhat safe. I never tried to do anything similar to you.

So, you finally came out of the closet to libel me publicly, of course without evidence to back up any claim, as no evidence of it exists. It was not enough that you have been gossiping behind my ever since I met you and I was careless enough to share personal data of mine with you too as I did in the past with Shael.

Too bad everyone who has ever interacted with me here knows that I never share confidential data of anyone. So do the Gods too. There are no screenshots and not anything because, contrary to your own little delusions, when I decided to cut ties with you, I actually did that. So, you can tell yourself what you want. Accuse myself of cursing you or whatever you wish. The fact is I cannot be getting any repercussion for something I never did behind your back.

Do you know what unbiased means? I guess your fingers unconsciously knew it when you typed it. Unbiased means "without bias".

Instead of lying to yourself and to whomever you are in contact with about how you are being cursed or whatever, try cleaning yourself up like I told you when we were still in touch, when half of your replies where apologising for your behaviour and the other half attacking me like you're doing now. Start healing those psychological wounds and holes in your aura with Lydia's working, like I suggested you first thing, so you can start functioning properly again. Building a cult around you will not heal you of past wounds but only give you feelings of false confidence in abilities you do not have in the first place.

Or you can keep the circus going with your private contacts but next time it will be our Guardians who deal with it, the real adults. I bet you never told anyone of how I tried to help you heal yourself. That would be too much against your narrative. There is not going to be any repeat of that, as I am not the charity and neither your babysitter. I literally want nothing to do with you, so keep avoiding like you were doing before and like Shael is doing. This forum is not your own personal drama show.
Stormblood is one of the SS that I can vouch for as being the real deal and I can say with certainty that he would NEVER do anything dishonorable or gossiping or backstabbing. He's a real deal SS and one of the few people I respect who has a hardened serious attitude about life. He doesn't fuck around and is very strong in his internal constitution. He has helped me before and he's really a selfless person who wants to help every SS brother in a selfish world so people could potentially take advantage of him (example this drama shit.)

So remember to takeway the lessons of looking out for warning red flags in people's behavior. Do not project your goodness onto others. Most of these people are scheming something in their minds and aren't straight forward like you are. They are paranoid like the Yehuborim who believe everyone is out to get them.

Most people think of Yehuborim as powerful as they rule our world but in reality they live in constant state of paranoia and hatred and fear. Because they hate themselves, which is why they project their own dross self to others.

Similarly people who hate themselves project that to others who are trying to help them and try to scheme and lie about them. Its usually because of being emotionally damaged. And be wary because all of these people who hate themselves are out to get the good people who want to help others.

Be very very beware of people calling themselves SS and exhibiting these kinds of behavior. They might be simply deluded, or damaged or they could be the enemy or in serious cases they could literally be Yehuborim or people working with rabbis.

A lot of people came to this path after a lot of mistakes and one of these mistakes was drugs/enemy programs. This can run deep and be a very big problem to let go of for many years or even decades.

Don't try to attack your brothers and sisters and don't do things you wouldn't want others to do to you. Live a virtuous life according to the SS ideology and don't fuck people over and behave like a rat. This is not highschool. This is not office politics. This is a place of knowledge exchange and information, and doing our duty of spiritual warfare. This isn't a joke that you fuck around with. This is very very serious. The more RTRs you do the more these dishonorable attributes shed off.
 
Jack said:
the other time when that guy accused me of trying to hypnotize and curse him by making him read long paragraphs.
I know what you're talking about, and it makes me giggle everytime the thought comes to my mind.
 
There has been fighting and miscommunication for the past week and the Mercury retrograde JUST started. This month will be difficult hang in there everyone.
 
Jack said:
the other time when that guy accused me of trying to hypnotize and curse him by making him read long paragraphs.
Typical Millennial and Zoomer nonsense: can't be arsed to read a couple of paragraphs, so your discomfort must be you're being cursed. It cannot be you're being lazy and have a bad habits. Yehubor's leader Kikestein forbid!
 
Azorm said:

I will never curse you, or anyone here, I am not even cursing Mageson who is proven to be on the side of enemy, at least now.


I think what you perceive as curses are rather your own issues, plus add enemy who like to exploit the moments of weakness.
 
If your soul has accumulated a lot of dirt and curses from past lives and you are in the process of cleaning can give that feeling when it is removed and make you too emotional, I myself have experienced it these last two years I'm still cleaning my soul, but it is not necessary to do that type of inmature drama.
 
Jack said:
Stormblood said:
Azorm said:
Stormblood, you are one arroggant piece of shit that acts all mighty while in reality you would poop your pants in front of most people and would cry over it all for a whole eternity. For years you are damaging me in every possible way almost, working against me, turning people against me and spreading unbiased rumors together with sharing some of my personal data that is left with you. You are acting like a hateful rat hiding around and just inflicting damage anytime you see that it might be somewhat safe. I never tried to do anything similar to you.

So, you finally came out of the closet to libel me publicly, of course without evidence to back up any claim, as no evidence of it exists. It was not enough that you have been gossiping behind my ever since I met you and I was careless enough to share personal data of mine with you too as I did in the past with Shael.

Too bad everyone who has ever interacted with me here knows that I never share confidential data of anyone. So do the Gods too. There are no screenshots and not anything because, contrary to your own little delusions, when I decided to cut ties with you, I actually did that. So, you can tell yourself what you want. Accuse myself of cursing you or whatever you wish. The fact is I cannot be getting any repercussion for something I never did behind your back.

Do you know what unbiased means? I guess your fingers unconsciously knew it when you typed it. Unbiased means "without bias".

Instead of lying to yourself and to whomever you are in contact with about how you are being cursed or whatever, try cleaning yourself up like I told you when we were still in touch, when half of your replies where apologising for your behaviour and the other half attacking me like you're doing now. Start healing those psychological wounds and holes in your aura with Lydia's working, like I suggested you first thing, so you can start functioning properly again. Building a cult around you will not heal you of past wounds but only give you feelings of false confidence in abilities you do not have in the first place.

Or you can keep the circus going with your private contacts but next time it will be our Guardians who deal with it, the real adults. I bet you never told anyone of how I tried to help you heal yourself. That would be too much against your narrative. There is not going to be any repeat of that, as I am not the charity and neither your babysitter. I literally want nothing to do with you, so keep avoiding like you were doing before and like Shael is doing. This forum is not your own personal drama show.
Stormblood is one of the SS that I can vouch for as being the real deal and I can say with certainty that he would NEVER do anything dishonorable or gossiping or backstabbing. He's a real deal SS and one of the few people I respect who has a hardened serious attitude about life. He doesn't fuck around and is very strong in his internal constitution. He has helped me before and he's really a selfless person who wants to help every SS brother in a selfish world so people could potentially take advantage of him (example this drama shit.)

So remember to takeway the lessons of looking out for warning red flags in people's behavior. Do not project your goodness onto others. Most of these people are scheming something in their minds and aren't straight forward like you are. They are paranoid like the Yehuborim who believe everyone is out to get them.

Most people think of Yehuborim as powerful as they rule our world but in reality they live in constant state of paranoia and hatred and fear. Because they hate themselves, which is why they project their own dross self to others.

Similarly people who hate themselves project that to others who are trying to help them and try to scheme and lie about them. Its usually because of being emotionally damaged. And be wary because all of these people who hate themselves are out to get the good people who want to help others.

Be very very beware of people calling themselves SS and exhibiting these kinds of behavior. They might be simply deluded, or damaged or they could be the enemy or in serious cases they could literally be Yehuborim or people working with rabbis.

A lot of people came to this path after a lot of mistakes and one of these mistakes was drugs/enemy programs. This can run deep and be a very big problem to let go of for many years or even decades.

Don't try to attack your brothers and sisters and don't do things you wouldn't want others to do to you. Live a virtuous life according to the SS ideology and don't fuck people over and behave like a rat. This is not highschool. This is not office politics. This is a place of knowledge exchange and information, and doing our duty of spiritual warfare. This isn't a joke that you fuck around with. This is very very serious. The more RTRs you do the more these dishonorable attributes shed off.

The Gods cannot be fooled. The truth will come out!
 
Jack said:
Stormblood said:
Azorm said:
Stormblood, you are one arroggant piece of shit that acts all mighty while in reality you would poop your pants in front of most people and would cry over it all for a whole eternity. For years you are damaging me in every possible way almost, working against me, turning people against me and spreading unbiased rumors together with sharing some of my personal data that is left with you. You are acting like a hateful rat hiding around and just inflicting damage anytime you see that it might be somewhat safe. I never tried to do anything similar to you.

So, you finally came out of the closet to libel me publicly, of course without evidence to back up any claim, as no evidence of it exists. It was not enough that you have been gossiping behind my ever since I met you and I was careless enough to share personal data of mine with you too as I did in the past with Shael.

Too bad everyone who has ever interacted with me here knows that I never share confidential data of anyone. So do the Gods too. There are no screenshots and not anything because, contrary to your own little delusions, when I decided to cut ties with you, I actually did that. So, you can tell yourself what you want. Accuse myself of cursing you or whatever you wish. The fact is I cannot be getting any repercussion for something I never did behind your back.

Do you know what unbiased means? I guess your fingers unconsciously knew it when you typed it. Unbiased means "without bias".

Instead of lying to yourself and to whomever you are in contact with about how you are being cursed or whatever, try cleaning yourself up like I told you when we were still in touch, when half of your replies where apologising for your behaviour and the other half attacking me like you're doing now. Start healing those psychological wounds and holes in your aura with Lydia's working, like I suggested you first thing, so you can start functioning properly again. Building a cult around you will not heal you of past wounds but only give you feelings of false confidence in abilities you do not have in the first place.

Or you can keep the circus going with your private contacts but next time it will be our Guardians who deal with it, the real adults. I bet you never told anyone of how I tried to help you heal yourself. That would be too much against your narrative. There is not going to be any repeat of that, as I am not the charity and neither your babysitter. I literally want nothing to do with you, so keep avoiding like you were doing before and like Shael is doing. This forum is not your own personal drama show.
Stormblood is one of the SS that I can vouch for as being the real deal and I can say with certainty that he would NEVER do anything dishonorable or gossiping or backstabbing. He's a real deal SS and one of the few people I respect who has a hardened serious attitude about life. He doesn't fuck around and is very strong in his internal constitution. He has helped me before and he's really a selfless person who wants to help every SS brother in a selfish world so people could potentially take advantage of him (example this drama shit.)

So remember to takeway the lessons of looking out for warning red flags in people's behavior. Do not project your goodness onto others. Most of these people are scheming something in their minds and aren't straight forward like you are. They are paranoid like the Yehuborim who believe everyone is out to get them.

Most people think of Yehuborim as powerful as they rule our world but in reality they live in constant state of paranoia and hatred and fear. Because they hate themselves, which is why they project their own dross self to others.

Similarly people who hate themselves project that to others who are trying to help them and try to scheme and lie about them. Its usually because of being emotionally damaged. And be wary because all of these people who hate themselves are out to get the good people who want to help others.

Be very very beware of people calling themselves SS and exhibiting these kinds of behavior. They might be simply deluded, or damaged or they could be the enemy or in serious cases they could literally be Yehuborim or people working with rabbis.

A lot of people came to this path after a lot of mistakes and one of these mistakes was drugs/enemy programs. This can run deep and be a very big problem to let go of for many years or even decades.

Don't try to attack your brothers and sisters and don't do things you wouldn't want others to do to you. Live a virtuous life according to the SS ideology and don't fuck people over and behave like a rat. This is not highschool. This is not office politics. This is a place of knowledge exchange and information, and doing our duty of spiritual warfare. This isn't a joke that you fuck around with. This is very very serious. The more RTRs you do the more these dishonorable attributes shed off.

I agree with you 100%. I am actually a member who had an account on the old josministries.prophpbb.com forum and made an account on the new forum(this forum) in 2017 when it opened. The reason I have this new account is because the idiocy that I portrayed on my old account is something I prefer not to be attached to. I spent a long time away from the forum before rejoining and I am not the same person as I was back then.

Anyways, I have interacted with Stormblood many times. I actually once had him on telegram in the past along with a few other SS. He truly is a valiant SS who I hold a massive amount of respect for. Through out interactions he was very patient and helped me a lot. He truly cares for his SS brothers and sisters and I am glad that he is on the forum. He is someone who I believe represents SS values to a tee.

Eventually he told me not to speak to him "until I was ready to take my meditation seriously" as I was constantly "restarting" my meditations. I believe that my interactions with him have helped me immensely and I am grateful to him. He is truly a valiant member of Satans army.

In regards to Shael and Azorm being Yehuborim I don't believe this to be true. Back when I was still in communication with SS over telegram I emailed a very well known and trustworhy member, someone who is extremely trustworhy and wellknown about Shael and Azorm asking if they were Yehuborim. They confirmed that Shael is not Yehuborim and I sent them a picture of Azorm that Azorm sent me over telegram and they also confirmed that Azorm is not Yehuborim. In most cases this would be a violation of privacy but I sent the photo to this member for two reasons.

1. I was actually worried for Shael as back then him and I were extremely good friends. We would be in the replies of each others posts on the forums ALL the time. I didn't want a Yehuborin corrupted someone who I cared deeply for.

2. The person I sent it to is extremely trustworthy. It is not like I sent the photo to someone who had 10 posts. This is someone who many believe could be a ministry member. Obviously the people don't decide, The Gods do. But you get my point.
 

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