Cuckolding

[Hesffcs115]

Is the fetish of cuckolding healthy or not, even if it is with your own race?

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Instead of being judgemental and falsely critical, one will say that so long there are no diseases involved, this should be "alright". So physically healthy, well yes unless you have someone with STD's doing that.

On the emotional aspects you would need to make non judgemental research on why these tastes may exist. Because this can contribute to problems in your real life relationships because of emotions being all over the place.

 

[NinRick]

Heck..
I don’t think I‘ve ever heard of that, but it sounds so wrong already.
Not even gonna google it.

No more comments on my part..

 

[Libra]

I was in such a relationship once. I feel as if a lot of it is a suppression of homosexuality, like living desires vicariously through a partner. I would evaluate why you want to do it. It requires very emotionally secure people that can communicate clearly with each other.

I was actually thinking of my past recently in regards to cleaning my soul, it’s interesting that this topic comes up now in that regard. There’s a reason why being called a cuck is such an insult. You are giving away something valuable to yourself to be used by another person. And get off on it. It’s really strange and I can’t say that I understand it from his perspective anymore than I did before, but it made me feel less like a partner and more like a tool to fulfill a desire while I was in that relationship. I think a lot of fetishes tread that line though. That’s why I say, it has to be something separate from yourself and your value of yourself and your partner. Just like in bdsm, there needs to be a degree of aftercare and communication to keep everyone involved aware of their value as a partner. To me that raises the question if any fetish can be truly healthy, if it necessitates that kind of action. Not to be bedroom police, but it’s something I’ve been thinking about.

 

[Hesffcs115]

Instead of being judgemental and falsely critical, one will say that so long there are no diseases involved, this should be "alright". So physically healthy, well yes unless you have someone with STD's doing that.

On the emotional aspects you would need to make non judgemental research on why these tastes may exist. Because this can contribute to problems in your real life relationships because of emotions being all over the place.

Well I suppose I might just be deranged but i guess when this started was when I was 15 is when i first got into spiritual satanism and i found the goddess lerajie and for some reason I felt this really strong connection with her and I was so delusional that I thought we had gotten married lol and as time whent on I developed a lot of intrusive thoughts and didnt know how to deal with them so I would fight them and constantly struggle with myself instead of facing them one of those thoughts being lerajie cucking me with people and that was just too much for me to handle so after awhile all these negative thoughts just started piling up causing me to pretty much lose it hate the gods, myself, and anyone who I thought was out to get me and I guess cuckolding formed into some kind of fetish for me but after a few years i was able to accept my thoughts as they way they are and I'm working on unwinding all the madness in me and trying to reconnect with my family the gods and the people of satan. And so I'm wondering what the satanic view on cuckolding is, the fetish and the event in itself consensual or otherwise.

 

[13th_Wolf]

I was in such a relationship once. I feel as if a lot of it is a suppression of homosexuality, like living desires vicariously through a partner. I would evaluate why you want to do it. It requires very emotionally secure people that can communicate clearly with each other.

I was actually thinking of my past recently in regards to cleaning my soul, it’s interesting that this topic comes up now in that regard. There’s a reason why being called a cuck is such an insult. You are giving away something valuable to yourself to be used by another person. And get off on it. It’s really strange and I can’t say that I understand it from his perspective anymore than I did before, but it made me feel less like a partner and more like a tool to fulfill a desire while I was in that relationship. I think a lot of fetishes tread that line though. That’s why I say, it has to be something separate from yourself and your value of yourself and your partner. Just like in bdsm, there needs to be a degree of aftercare and communication to keep everyone involved aware of their value as a partner. To me that raises the question if any fetish can be truly healthy, if it necessitates that kind of action. Not to be bedroom police, but it’s something I’ve been thinking about.

Proper sex is done on the Libra level, not the Scorpio one...lol. I mean that in basically what you mean, regarding the other people as individuals and not as some psychological tool and placeholder of some blanket power issue you have or some underlying crap. You have to regard everything and everyone as flowing in part of a whole, not stagnant in any egoic and fixed manner.

"cuckolding" is something groups of "friends" humiliate one another about. Otherwise it's just the expression of some innate need of a person with some other close people, that alone doesn't have a label, or any cold definition yet. Same with other taboo stuff that isn't cuckolding. The idea is to progress from anything impure and progress to what is in fact, pure. That is why sex is tied with transformation rebirth and things like that, as well as destruction.

I think there are some so-called fetishes which actually stem from the Yehubor and unnatural, bizarre compulses that come from corruption of our Earth and Mind. Zoophilia, scatophilia and some others come to mind. The line I think is in what is naturally permissible and healthy for yourself and others (emotionally and physically), and what in fact, harms and will only serve to harm and be unnatural.

The reason why sex is tied to death, also stems differently on many many levels. Sex by it's nature is secretive. Sex between friends can cause major disharmony for a person within a group, or get treated something to laugh at and have a bit of an ego death. Sex between friends of different language, cultures and regions but same race can cause it's own higher and emotionally represented abnormalities for children, which over history have lead to deaths of entire cultures (think when the Lombards moved into the falling Roman empire and now culture there is Italian, and Roman Latin is extinct as a language and expression. Hard to find a pure Mediterranean phenotype save for in rural parts of Wales etc.). Going higher than that, with other races, it is sheer destruction on the physical level. To be fetishistic about stuff like that is a very very odd thing. Cuckolding doesn't really get to that level.

So if the people are close friends with one another, there isn't really a problem, and they wouldn't by themselves probably define it as cuckolding anyway unless in that moment they were that way inclined.

*Astrological note- the sex sign Scorpio is in a diaposition with the groups sign of Aquarius in the same quality. The meaning of these signs (and their rulers) is how you should consider fetishes and taboos form, and what on their line is respectable to nature or the death of it. In a chart this would be these + also your 8th and 11th houses and their rulers.

 

[Hesffcs115]

Presuming and any partner are monogamous/monoamourous. Naturally, the same Race as oneself we definitely should be with.

Lol I did not write ping did my post come up like that? crap I new to making posts here

Nooo. That was me. I was just pinging you.

Oh lol

 

[FancyMancy]

By the way, my post above was not just for Meteor. It was for everyone, including Hesffcs115. The same with below, of course. I don't mean to shut anyone off; this is a public forum and replies are for anyone to see.

But doesn't all of that just stem from hard feelings?

Possibly. Ignorance...

I feel relieved. I realise now that the Gods would never try to convince me that it's wrong of me to be monogamous, so there's no need for me to be so defensive.

No-one has to be polygamous/polyamourous as much as no-one has to be monogamous/monoamourous. Meditations clean us up and our true selves comes out with that. Perhaps sexualities would change or broaden, or whatever.

Thinking about that makes me realise that if a part of my mind and emotions were to be erased, I could be polyamorous too. Although then I wouldn't be myself anymore, and not being myself still seems like a nightmare anyway.

Impossible. What I mean by "impossible" is that with our Third Eye clean, unblocked and empowered, it becomes more and more increasingly difficult for us to be deceived; therefore, whatever memories and knowledge we had erased would return, as they would while we are empowering ourselves and becoming Godly eventually. With Freeing the Soul, things are lifted out, so anything erased or suppressed would re-surface, come out, probably or definitely be painful and very upsetting, but be very, very cathartic and freeing and lifting off our shoulders and uplifting.

If you are mono or poly, then OK; if you're the other, then OK. Maybe you should...if it's not possible to try actual sexual interaction, then consider it and see what you think about it and see how you feel about it.

Ideally, we're all just doing what we enjoy the most, right?

Currently. People are trying to clean-up the shit which has been happening of suppressed sex and suppressed expression, thanks to the Yehubor. Sexual Energies in the Sexual Chakra can become very dirtied by Yehubor shit and also other shit which Humans might do, and if these Sexual Energies are not let out properly, then they can fester and become foetid and disgusting and putrid - and that makes things much more worse and worse, e.g. any bad sexual thing/sexual violence. I think maybe also non-sexual violence, as well; there seems to be a link between blood lust and 'getting some' due to the Energies being so fucked up and dirtied, so that must be why (((the system))) equates sex with violence. Because penetration is assault, obviously. ¬¬ :roll:

The relationship between sexual frustration and violence is evident in chimps, where most of the male/male conflict arises over access to ovulating females. Among free-loving bonobos on the other hand, there is little, if any, male sexual frustration and thus little, if any, violence. This is no coincidence...
https://archive.is/rBSmm
(I have to point out that the random letters in the end of the URL there are not chosen by me; in other links I have shared before, coincidences have happened, e.g. regarding one about the truth about Satan, etc., the randomly-generated link included "0mg", i.e. OMG!, which some might express once they realise the truth. Perhaps this randomly-generated link is a coincidence to say that that psychology entry is BS.)

Cuckoldry, BDSM, sexual violence perhaps, polygamy/polyamoury, non-heterosexuality, etc... are, I think, Human's ways to try and make sense of Energies within the dirtied Sexual Chakra, which might have come-out in wrong and bad ways, and trying to make themselves feel nice, good, happy, pleasurable - orgasms are these things, of course. Some of these things, and others I haven't listed, surely are caused because of lack of expression - and lack of the ability of expression - therefore lack of release; sexual suppression of abrahamism and other Yehubor things; false-education; peer-pressure by ignorant individuals who, to be fair, are also trying to find good things; etc.: etc.; etc. Of course, non-heterosexuality is as Natural as heterosexuality, but I mean from coming out of abrahamism where only heterosexuality was "holy".

There's only something wrong with that when people try to force what they enjoy on others who wouldn't enjoy it.

I've been thinking about this, along the lines of self-expression and things, for a while but not knowing how to word it. I think however I worded it would sound like I was defending the forcer/rapist/perpetrator/whatever... It's also a wildly broad and very non-specific estimation, as well... buuuut...

say a rapist is a rapist because he (because it is a he, usually) has a high sex drive, lots of Sexual Energy. Through many factors, too many to name so anyone reading this should fill in these blanks for themselves, this person has been unable to have proper, meaningful, satisfying sexual encounters - either love-making and/or fucking. With the lack of proper release and expression in a safe and nice way, the things built up and his masturbation, with sex dolls/toys and porn, were just not good enough, or it seemed as if they were good enough for a while, but then the reality came out.

Perhaps he had sexual encounters but they were not satisfying enough and he was not able to join, e.g. a BDSM dungeon, where he could not only receive enjoyable orgasms but also the other Physical, Sexual sensations of...e.g. being whipped and pretend-mistreated, with genuine permission to fantasy-rape others, etc., to let them out in a proper way. This was impossible for him, because such a service didn't exist, or he was way too afraid because his disposition was not good enough to interact with people because he's a geek, nerd, loner, whatever. (No offence to geeks, nerds, loners, etc.; I'm just trying to give examples.) Maybe he was a virgin for any and whatever reason/s.

Through one thing and (many more than merely) another, he didn't know how to control his sex drive, and perhaps he tried suppressing it - which is dangerously unhealthy in and of itself, anyway - and things just got more and more out of control. Perhaps he sought help from "legal/medical professionals", but (((the system))) is just shit, as we know it is... At first, he hated that he violated another person, but then he got used to it; it was too seductive and after a while, him feeling nice outweighed his feelings of guilt and self-hatred and despair, etc., for hurting his victim/s...


See how wildly, and widely, loose and airy that is? I am trying to make guesses about it, which might be somewhat realistic. Take chrisian "priests", for example. They are not "allowed" (or used to not be "allowed") to have sex; they were obligated to remain celibate - and we know what that caused all over the World; likewise, muslims - and not just the "mullahs/imams", do the same thing actually as a part of their "religion"... Both christianity and islam are Yehuborim... The Yehubor has blocked-off the Human routes, ways and channels for clean and healthy and positive and beneficial expression and pleasure, and opened-up dirty ones instead, so these dirty ones are the only outlets in which people were able or capable of travelling, because they were not "allowed" to travel the clean, healthy, positive and beneficial channels and lanes of expression and pleasure. This is not only sexual, but all sorts of non-sexual things, as well - happiness, enjoyment, freedom, knowledge, etc.

I know it might seem like I am defending anyone's actions. I am not here to defend or prosecute, however.

...Tthhee pooiinntt bbeeiinngg - being on-topic, I think cuckoldry, and other things whether good things or bad things, are different ways that Humans have been trying to express themselves, given the tools they have, while being restricted unhealthily and forced to try and compensate. Of course, not everyone is a rapist; others are able and capable of expressing themselves in healthy ways; their Sexual Energies and Chakra are either clean or are less-dirty; they may struggle in other areas of life, e.g. working hard for (((the man))) or never having been able to have Children so they visit sex clubs or work in the military and are married to the job/to the Commander in Chief, etc...

Of course, the other Chakras and the Soul also play parts. The Sexual (Sacral, 2nd) Chakra is paired with the Throat Chakra, which is the Seat of Emotions. The Sacral Chakra is Male, the Throat Chakra is Female, and both are creative.

Of course, at the end of the day it is any individual's choice, but to give the benefit of the doubt - maybe in rare cases they were drunk on lust and were so used to "raping" a sex doll that they became detached from reality and lost some compassion, respect and empathy for others, and also for themselves; or were delirious and just overly-impassioned, out-of-character, etc. They still made the choice, though - the Yehubor makes the choice to behave its way, but its soul is Yehuborim; therefore, its nature is that way; therefore, it is disgusting; the sexually-suppressed-and-then-overly-expressed individual has had their Soul be dirtied with Yehubor shit; therefore, one could say that individual is not really their true self, yet they still have to tend with the consequences (you were "born in 'sin' and into 'sin'" so you must "burn for eternity"; it's your fault you were raped, so you will be stoned to death for choosing to be attacked, violated and defiled...).

As has been said - the strong and mighty rule over, control, use, abuse, manipulate... the weak and meek and lower and lowly... but then we have strong Ones above us. Might may be right, in some circumstances.

I think cuckoldry, which blatantly is anti-White, is similar in some ways. It comes from low, or complete lack of, self-worthiness, self-esteem, self-pride (but not arrogance, conceit or hubris), incapability of self-expression, lack of positive sexual experiences which help fulfil oneself... whereas in the examples of Blacks being "superior" and Asians (muslims) being rapists, it is the opposite extreme. Say you have a see-saw and a Child on one side and a Child on the other - fine. Say one Child is heavy and the other Child is light - not fine. Say both Children are 1000 tonnes in weight and the ride snaps - very not fine. Balance is important, and not too much of one thing and not too few of another is important. Too many or too few ingredients in a cake and it will not work.

Sex is so important Spiritually; the Kundalini is sexual in Nature; the Yehubor wants Whites to be cuckolds, and accept such a thing, so directly or indirectly Whites' respective Kundalinis remain dormant and Whites become passive, submissive, subverted, overpowered, conquered, destroyed, extinct. It probably is a big leap from one thing to another here, but the Yehubor's end goal and intention is the same - if Whites are suppressed and overpowered, then the World would be fucked - and not in the good way.

These are just my own thoughts on the matter.

Again - my posts above are not just for Meteor. They are for anyone, including Hesffcs115. Going through meditations properly, doing the Freeing the Soul working, and advancing helps to clean us out and helps us to discover, reveal and release our true self. I wonder how hurt Satan and the Gods and Goddesses must be when they see Humanity having been so dirtied and unable to be, and incapable of being, and not "allowed" to be our own real, true, actual selves, while They are Their own real, true, actual selves. Conversely, "god" "had to turn away from" "jesus" because it was a psychopathic evil devil who sent its own son to be tortured to death; it "had to turn away" from "jesus" because "jesus" was so ugly with sin...

 

[Hesffcs115]

I'm glad I made this topic I feel like we've shined light on things for a lot of people including myself that needed to be talked about.

 

[One Wire Phenomenon]

I went on the internet to see what it is and its when someone is turned on when their partner is haveing sex with another person.

I remember the day my girlfriend and i wanted to have a 3 sum with an other guy,the idea turned me on but when it came to the real thing i got very jealous and horny at the same time so i told her there is no way we are going to do this anymore.
I could not stand it to see her toutching the other guy!! Since then i had problems trusting her.

 

[victory666]

@Jack,

Always appreciate your posts and comments.
You mention taking Maca, but there are different types and colors. Is there a specific one that you would recommend or maybe a combination of different ones together ?
Also, you mention the "Freeing the Soul" ritual. Is there a direct link you could post for that ?
I'm thankful to Father Satan for all the knowledge that he gives to you and all others here in the forums.
Hail Satan.

 

[victory666]

Thanks Jack for the detailed info. I will start on March 30 when the moon goes into Scorpio through the 31st. I will be doing it during the hour of the Sun. My only concern is that the Moon does not come into Scorpio again until April 27. Can I start it on the 30th and keep running the ritual straight through for 40 days ? Thanks again for your time.
Hail Father Satan

 

[FancyMancy]

Impossible. What I mean by "impossible" is that with our Third Eye clean, unblocked and empowered, it becomes more and more increasingly difficult for us to be deceived; therefore, whatever memories and knowledge we had erased would return, as they would while we are empowering ourselves and becoming Godly eventually. With Freeing the Soul, things are lifted out, so anything erased or suppressed would re-surface, come out, probably or definitely be painful and very upsetting, but be very, very cathartic and freeing and lifting off our shoulders and uplifting.

Sorry for bringing this up again all of a sudden, but I was wondering: what about using magick with the intent of deep transformation to permanently change something about oneself on the Soul level, causing the change to manifest on other levels as well over time? To what extent is one's self fixed, and to what extent is it mutable?
Can people change at their very core if they put in the work, or is anything that's perceived as deep change actually an illusion that will evaporate over time? What do you think?

That's part of what we are to do, based on Physical and Spiritual work, including Emotional and Mental/Psychological. These things all affect each other in one way or another, and we also need a balance between these in life and exercises. By "exercises" I mean either physical exercise or just stuff that we enjoy doing and interacting with and participating in. Things must be possible Physically; if they are not, then it can't be done. Can someone grow strong enough to carry a Planet like Atlas did? Biokinesis apparently can be done to change features of one's Body, but others will have to confirm or deny that that is permanent or temporary; if you have brown hair and brown eyes and are White, will you always have them in every life due to it being in the Soul, or could we reincarnate as a blonde-haired, blue-eyed White? I would say "yes, we can reincarnate as such"; however, after weeks or months, the colour of the hair especially would change back to brown; the eyes, I don't know. Perhaps the colour of the eyes are changeable but the deeper, inner Soul-ness is fixed; or due to dominant and recessive genes, they are only "changeable" because the true features have not come out yet. In Las Salinas in the Dominican Republic, Caribbean, and maybe elsewhere (I had to check because I forgot where it is), there are about 1/90 Children born as Females, but then 'transform' into Males during puberty.

Based on what I've learned, there are some things which cannot be changed, though, such as species, race and sex, so if you're a White Human Male, you will always be a White Human Male; you'll never be a Yehubor reptillian female, for example. Based on Yehubor Star Trek, which is revealing for some things, some species have more than 2 sexes, so maybe "Yehubor reptillian female" might be inaccurate! Also depending on how one wants to classify them (Thanks, clever (((scientists))) at the IAU for demoting the Planet Pluto!), some species have "more than 2 sexes" or if not, then whatever other classifications they might be written under.

 

[Jack]

Off topic. But do you guys think having sex with person who had a vaccine will have any damage or something along the lines? since when you have sex you exchange not only energies with other partner but DNA also. Any thoughts on this or I'm to worried and overthinking that sexual stuff as usual.

I wanted to make separate topic but maybe I will get my answer here.

Make a second topic, it'll get more exposure and interaction. I also want to hear what the others think.

 

[FancyMancy]

Sorry for bringing this up again all of a sudden, but I was wondering: what about using magick with the intent of deep transformation to permanently change something about oneself on the Soul level, causing the change to manifest on other levels as well over time? To what extent is one's self fixed, and to what extent is it mutable?
Can people change at their very core if they put in the work, or is anything that's perceived as deep change actually an illusion that will evaporate over time? What do you think?

That's part of what we are to do, based on Physical and Spiritual work, including Emotional and Mental/Psychological. These things all affect each other in one way or another, and we also need a balance between these in life and exercises. By "exercises" I mean either physical exercise or just stuff that we enjoy doing and interacting with and participating in. Things must be possible Physically; if they are not, then it can't be done. Can someone grow strong enough to carry a Planet like Atlas did? Biokinesis apparently can be done to change features of one's Body, but others will have to confirm or deny that that is permanent or temporary; if you have brown hair and brown eyes and are White, will you always have them in every life due to it being in the Soul, or could we reincarnate as a blonde-haired, blue-eyed White? I would say "yes, we can reincarnate as such"; however, after weeks or months, the colour of the hair especially would change back to brown; the eyes, I don't know. Perhaps the colour of the eyes are changeable but the deeper, inner Soul-ness is fixed; or due to dominant and recessive genes, they are only "changeable" because the true features have not come out yet. In Las Salinas in the Dominican Republic, Caribbean, and maybe elsewhere (I had to check because I forgot where it is), there are about 1/90 Children born as Females, but then 'transform' into Males during puberty.

Based on what I've learned, there are some things which cannot be changed, though, such as species, race and sex, so if you're a White Human Male, you will always be a White Human Male; you'll never be a Yehubor reptillian female, for example. Based on Yehubor Star Trek, which is revealing for some things, some species have more than 2 sexes, so maybe "Yehubor reptillian female" might be inaccurate! Also depending on how one wants to classify them (Thanks, clever (((scientists))) at the IAU for demoting the Planet Pluto!), some species have "more than 2 sexes" or if not, then whatever other classifications they might be written under.

I do wonder where exactly the line is drawn between that which is truly fixed, and that which doesn't change normally but can be changed in theory under special circumstances.

This is not an exact answer because I don't know so instead I will go for a poetic or colourful example or analogy... thing - our Physical Bodies have ligaments and tendons. We can have operations to replace them with something else, such as bendy steel rods or carbon fibre, but that is not us. We are what we are, and making fundamental changes like that is so many different shades of stupid and disease and detriment. We should be happy to be our respective selves, even if one Race is more beautiful than the other Races (with that race being excluded, obviously) or one sub-Race is more beautiful than the main Race, etc. A member said, I am not certain if they joked, that when we see Führer Adolf Hitler again soon, we will see His long blonde hair. My guesstimate, as an educated guess, is that He will be brown-haired, as He was 80+ years ago.

It's been said that if one neglects their Soul for too long, then one risks dying a second death; to stop existing. If the Soul as a whole is no more, that implies all of its traits and properties have been destroyed as well, no matter how "inner" or "fixed" they used to be.

Some say the Soul is eternal, some say it can die a second death. If you are neglectful, then you'd wither away; else, you'd might as well be lazy and live forever as a sorry excuse for a Soul on life-support. Steel can melt, even if it is a strong thing.

I doubt this kind of thing can happen so long as one has a physical body. Being physically alive brings an immense amount of stability and safety to a Soul. If it were possible to completely erase the Souls of living beings, then this war would look very different.

From what I either was told or remember reading years ago, the Soul, if ignored, would reduce and break-up into its constituent Elements. Consider different colours, all mixed in different amounts; these colours represent the Elements. Some colours mixed together do not equal 2 separate colours joined closely together; they equal an entirely new colour. If they were to be separated, these 'new colours' would not exist. I think it is similar for Souls. The Soul is made up of light, of different colours/wavelengths/vibrations, and as we know we are unique with as many different, unique, individual experiences from pre-birth to one degree or another; with enough experiences in certain amounts, these can cause good and bad changes to us; if you get shot, for example, in your next life the location of the wound might have a severe ailment, deformity or make you be disabled.

Neglecting Soul health is like a slower, longer version of that. After however-much time, would it remain? The Soul, Body and Mind all affect each other; if the Body and Mind/Consciousness can cease, then surely the Soul itself can. To make it more complicated, I think I also read that parts of the Soul (some of its Bodies, because we have Soul Bodies as well as a Physical one) can die in a second death but others remain, but these which remain (I think) are just not you, sort of like... I suppose you could say, breaking down a brick to re-use as extra material to use in construction again; it would not be the original brick of the original building anymore.

And yet, a theme I've noticed while studying JoS is "transformation through death and rebirth". Consider the step of Nigredo in spiritual alchemy for example. Jack the other day was talking about "ego-death". It's also mentioned in the description of the rune Eihwaz:

"#13. Used in necromancy (communicating with the dead). It is a rune of death and power over the dead. Eihwaz strengthens the will and can be used in past life regressions to gain knowledge and wisdom from prior lives. Represents the kundalini force. This rune shields the soul through all kinds of hardship. Like the planet Pluto, it is a rune of transformation through death and rebirth and rules over deep and powerful transformation on all levels. Smoky quartz is used with this rune. Both can be used to activate and raise the kundalini."

From what I know, the examples I gave have to do mainly with the death of impurities to become more in touch with one's inner, natural self. In a sense, it seems more like a step of purification rather than transformation to me.

Death Card, in Tarot, does not mean ceasing to live. It means an end of something; therefore, a beginning of another thing. Negredo stage, if I am not mistaken, is where the Yehubor-on-a-stick dying is stolen, twisted, perverted and corrupted from; like a cocooning and re-birth from a caterpillar into a butterfly - onwards and upwards. Thinking about it, it also seems like that as we are on the lowest level, lowest dimension i.e. Physical, to reach the Spiritual requires work - the cocoon, dying, Negredo stage is a hidden, secret transformation process (only some Magnum Opus steps are shared for security reasons).

Likewise, scientists still can't explain the Mind/Consciousness - the Brain is Physical, the Mind, 'within' the Brain, is not Physical; the Brain is like the medium between the Physical World and the Spiritual World - imagination, visualisation, dreams/lucid dreaming, etc., without which we cannot possibly hope to shed our caterpillar self and transform onwards and upwards. Our Brains control our Physical Bodies; the 'metamind', if you will, the Mind, the non-Physical thinking-ness and memories and visualisations, etc., of us control our Spiritual (Soul) Bodies; the Brain is a 'tunnel' or medium between Physicality and Spirituality. The Yehubor, and lower Animals, don't have constitutions good-enough to advance higher than what they are (possibly genetic engineering would work? Hence why the Yehubor needed to copulate with Humans) - but as we know, energy takes the path of least resistance, so it is easier to destroy than it is to create (see my Taj Mahal and Buckingham Palace example in posts).

It was easy for the Yehubor to reduce us down to its level, then push us under, seeing as we were young in Spirituality; there is like a threshold and the Yehubor caught us before we passed that point of no return that the Yehubor would not be able to reduce us. Regarding the Yehubor and lower Animals - the Yehubor was capable of procreating with us, as was necessary for the reptillians' plans. Lower Animals are incapable of that. Mixing together Human and lower Animal DNA, sperm and egg, would not work very well, if at all. Repeated attempts might cause a shitsoul to come into existence, but it would be purely an abomination in many different ways. There was a Human-Pig hybrid created, and a Chicken-Pigeon hybrid created. I'd invite you to watch a bit of Futurama and 'Momsanto' (Mom[sic] being a conglomerate businesswoman, and of course it being a play on Monsanto...)

Again, I was told or I read before that there are Spiritual-only entities, including Thoughtforms and Elementals which I think I knew about at the time, but I think they said... something like faerie or pixies type of things - the more folklore-y, Children's tales-y type efforts. These don't have Physical Bodies; therefore, cannot transform nor advance in improvement, but they can be interacted with Spiritually. I don't know how, if at all, conscious they are, though. I think they might be able to be transformed by interference of others' imaginations, though. - Based on other posts of argument by members, where one claimed to have a waifu or interest of an anime/computer game character, where others denied that, later it turned out that such things can be real to one extent or another. All of the millions of Human Minds enjoying computer game characters, etc., manifests a sort-of ToonTown (think the Who Framed Roger Rabbit? film) Spiritually. The Yehubor's evil thoughtform (egregore) is this exactly, with many centuries' worth of christian and muslim prayer plus other media and Scientific control by the Yehubor, etc.

Plants, trees, flowers... don't have Brains; they are millions of years older than the dinosaurs yet they cannot advance. They are still alive, though, and vibrate, and have Auras. The more I learn/hear about it - that, e.g. a man treated his chillies abusively, shouting and swearing at, and 'insulting', them, causing them to become hotter chillies; and another man trying similar things, both nice and nasty, to rice causing them to taste differently and things (all allegedly)... similarly people talking to their plants/flowers which helps them grow and be healthy (I think also there was a member who said a couple of years ago that she actually does do that)... the more I hear about these things, the more I am convinced it might actually be real - it's Energies; happy, positive Energies or angry, abusing Energies, all affecting the plants, crops and things. They have Auras, because they vibrate (as everything does and does), but they cannot advance like us with Brains and Souls. (In before "Plants Have Souls, Too!", "Plants Feel Pain!".)

And yet, my earlier line of thinking has me wondering if it is possible, if one wishes to, to kill a part of oneself deliberately and rebuild it differently in a permanent manner. My intuition says both the "killing" and "rebuilding" parts can be done through a form spiritual alchemy, and that it is a gradual process. How feasible this would be just depends on how sturdy the trait one wishes to change is, as well as how many other traits it is supported by (fewer would make it easier, I think).

You can try and be "transspecies" and be a dinosaur! Maybe try and be "trans... erm... existent..." and be a lava flow down the side of a volcano! Killing would be the ceasing, the end of something, which would leave a huge gaping hole in your Soul and Mind/Psychology, which would make you very fucked-up. I saw a thread ages ago which showed a Yehubor celebrity having had a cat-scan and it showed patches of emptiness in its brain; the Yehubor's soul is very different to Human Souls, and needless to say - the Yehubor is psychopathic, to say the least. It is also trained, acting and emulating, though, which makes it harder to identify, not to mention it attempts to look Human, as well. Instead of killing, try healing; going through the basic, intermediate and advanced workings and meditations can improve Humans properly and after that things will be healed and fixed, which might take months, years or decades - or even lifetimes - and then one can realise that they are healed, healthy, more sorted-out so that they might not think they want or need to make a transformation which they wanted previously; instead, they would be more proper, and eventually, proper.

Changing a person's race seems to me like it would be impossible because there are too many genetic differences between the races. But something like sexual orientation? Besides genes there are many things that can influence how it is expressed in the first place, so it might be possible to change even something so deep and personal at its very core. Although I know that example is really fucking taboo, so I wish I could think of a better example. Maybe something like permanently changing the colour of one's hair, since that's only affected by a few genes at most? I wonder if through a form of spiritual alchemy focused on "deep transformation through death and rebirth", it would be possible to change that in such a deep way that it would persist into future lifetimes.

I would say that hair is cosmetic, so changing the colour of it would be nice for Physical/Material interests - we do need Physical and Spiritual means, not just one nor just the other. A member did say that an SS friend or contact of theirs is more open Psychically when they have long hair. Changing one's Race is like trying to change a bicycle into a car, helicopter, aeroplane or spaceship - all are capable of doing similar things, but they can't be changed between each other. Most people are bisexual, anyway; the shape of Male and Female Body are more alike than they are like...a dinosaur or volcano! Some lean more one way or the other Naturally; Nature keeps balance and works things correctly (and the Yehubor hates Nature/Paganism!).

I suppose when it comes down to it, one won't know until they try. Often times, where there is a will, there is a way.

I think one inescapable rule of thumb to remember is - if it is possibly Physically, then it is possible. Maybe you could be strong enough to pick up the World, like I said earlier!

I've wondered sometimes if it is possible for a person's natural traits to bring misfortune and unhappiness to them.

The Brain is so complex, with many systems and departments. Due to many centuries of degradation, the interdepartmental memos don't always reach their destination, so while we might enjoy something, we might forget some details, or we are inclined Naturally towards something, we can't seem to achieve it yet and our Minds seem to defy us. - Our Minds (us) seem to defy us (our Minds). Dafuq?! I think this is the corpus callosum, bridging the left and right hemispheres of the Brain, which is needed in Spiritual advancement; balancing things including the Soul and Elements, Masculine and Feminine, having the Ida and Pingala working together instead of ebbing and flowing back and forth throughout the day, having both Spiritual and Physical lives, etc. Corpus = corpse, dead body, negredo. Callosum = tough or callous. Maybe that's why it's called the Great Work, because a lot of hard work has to be done to make it work.

Some people seem to have the belief that Souls are handmade by Satan and that every trait a person has, has a purpose and should be embraced.

Forgive my reference to Star Trek - of which you may want to skip over! Soong created robo-- androids. Designs and tests, etc., happened; if Satan was born once upon a time, then He was nowhere near as capable as He is now; likewise, He might have needed to test and try Spiritual and/or Scientific/Medical manipulation of Souls via genes, and Genetics. Just like Soong's creations, they soon went off and "lived" their own "lives", becoming their respective selves. While 2 "brothers" were 1 and 2 in line (or 3 and 4, 100 and 101, whatever...) they both diverged, became separate and were individual. Satan 'injected' us with advanced DNA which could not be removed. Naturally, we are supposed to increase and become more - the intention being for the better; with such things, though, while that doesn't happen, terrible things can happen as consequences instead. With the introduction of the emotion chip to the android "brothers", they "became" "Human" nearly, and it went wrong because they couldn't handle it and enjoyed the pleasures of evil, etc. As if:

1. a robot can choose,
2. has actual life and ethics, and
3. the emotions can interfere with and override, pleasurably, the hardwired ethics of the robot, especially after the long-established Three Laws of Robotics, as well...

:roll:

This is Yehubor shit, saying to remove your emotions and be a tin can robot instead; emotions are powerful Energies and are very important.

Apparently, brilliant minds can't handle stress and are at higher risk of suffering from depression more easily and they maybe go coo-coo; fit athletes can just drop dead. We were intended to increase for the better, but without balance, and with Yehubor shit of disease, death, destruction, degradation... and any other Ds and other letters you may want, things sort of tower i.e. too much intelligence, too much athleticism, etc., without balance, it towers over other things and then it topples over and crashes, and the person ends up fooked which also affects other people and depending on their role/station in life, maybe many people. We can and do increase for good or for bad - or for good and for bad. Due to ignorance, we've become severely imbalanced. Satan intended us to increase and improve positively and beneficially, but we've been leaning over and slanting and trying to keep some form of ignorant balance with things (again, the extremes in abuse, including sexual - the Kundalini is sexual in Nature and is our lifeblood, our lifeline, in a sense, increase in murder, increase in substance misuse, etc., etc., etc.; again it is not to excuse any for such acts, but trying to see things from a needy, desperate and Spiritual angle, and also to realise that people need to be in control, and that that can come out in very bad ways).

I do not see it that way. If the way a person is will inevitably bring them unhappiness, then they can choose to be stubborn and brag about how much they love themselves; and they will inevitably be unhappy regardless. In that case, shouldn't they try to change?

You would think, wouldn't you?! While people cry and whinge about things, and do nothing to better their situations nor themselves, that is sort of expected. While young, people are so easy to influence; older, they are more set in their ways. They may not have had a grasp on being able to improve things, so the 'best' they can do is complain. They recognise a problem, but they lack the ability and tools to change things; this comfort and... well... comfortable-ness and comfort zone-ness maybe was unconscious and programmed through other things - "What a hard day! Welp, time for a bath and bed. Oh, that needs doing. Meh, I'll procrastinate again! I'm too tired to do it now.".

I think that people deserve to be happy, and that it is unnatural to not to strive towards happiness. So then, what if one's "ideal self" is different from their "natural self", and the circumstances they live in make it impossible for them to find happiness as their natural self?

I am thinking that some of the 'departments' in their Mind and Brain have not been staffed, nor are there advertisements for those roles, or if there are there are no prospective workers coming for interview. The department of (((education))), the department of (((media))), the department of peer-pressure, the department of busy work life, etc., etc., etc., all take-up time and effort and energy - they have little energy left to do things as they wish - which might not be actually beneficial. It seems to be that young Souls are like Children - easy to influence and manipulate, and they are wowed by glitz and glamour and things; it was said quite a while ago that the Yehubor sees us a generations, not as individuals (if I am not mistaken); this Gen Z or Millenials or whatever... have been borne into more shitter shit than the shit which previous Gens were borne into, and are basically like empty shells nearly. Funnily enough, on a TV programme, due to it being Earth Day, Children, in fact, were saying about it's not fair that the "authourities" will die, leaving us to deal with things. I saw one fat lad who could hardly move, in a video saying that he will try different foods "for you", he said. My immediate words were they he wouldn't be trying them for me...

In that case, I think that such a person should strive to become their ideal self instead of clinging to who they naturally were, even if that means deeply changing some things about themselves.

You can't beat Nature. While Satan might be the most-powerful God that we know about, whom other Gods and Goddesses either look-up to or work for/with, He still is under Nature. Nature is Boss and we're all her bitches; Nature is Mistress and we're all her slaves; Nature is God(dess) and we're all his/her subjects and worshippers. She does, however, not withhold secrets from those willing to use them, but at the same time she doesn't give two flying fooks - if you do shit, then you will be shit; we increase for better or for worse, and Nature obliges and is inclined to help one along their way, whichever way that may be - but it's not always too late; there are times and chances, but of course there is a point of no return, that being either Physical death, which one only might reincarnate, or Spiritual degradation and dissipation.

Other points of no return could include having been given too many chances and exceeding them - you didn't change before, why should anyone - including Gods and Goddesses - believe you now? In fact, They can see our Souls and see what's what anyway. They do also, however, have Souls and Hearts Themselves; They have compassion and understanding and know and realise all too well that things wouldn't be like this if the Yehubor and it reptillian overlords had never arrived here and did things against us.

Nature be a harsh Mistress - she loves us so much that she gave us Planet Saturn to keep us in-line and keep our heads out of the clouds! Some don't like authouritarian parents, but Nature knows Saturn is good for us! She provides care with Planet Jupiter, however, and she also provides other Planets for our benefit, such as Phaeton, which now we have Step-parent Moon, instead, etc... (This is just a very rough, brief analogy, rather than strict adherence to facts about the Planets.) It has been said repeatedly, and I expect it to be repeated repeatedly more - clean, clean and clean your Soul and Chakras and Aura thoroughly. Do this properly and thoroughly before going on to do Magick - increasing dirty Chakras makes it harder to achieve our goals, and due to the nature which has been forced upon us of negativity and pessimism, we'd be disappointed - especially after expectation - and then blame Satan or say that Magick is not real, etc. Even members here, having had actual experiences, still have not believed their eyes and experiences; they have still doubted when the things have happened exactly before them with real, actual experiences.

It's sort of like when wanting to learn an art - you don't go straight into doing the arty thing. You might expect to be doing cool things at first, but instead for your lesson or lessons will be you having to do other things instead. e.g. you might want to go do pottery, and you think you'll be throwing down clay on day one - but no, the first lessons are about you having to learn the different types of clay, their consistencies, the ways they work, how they bake, what can be done with them, etc. There is always pre-stuff before we can do stuff - and people don't like that. They stopped learning years ago, and instead now they use a lot of energy on work and pretending to keep the home clean and visiting people and doing things, etc.

So long as they truly change and aren't just suppressing parts of themselves, I believe there is freedom in that.

For once, I'm going to dump Star Trek (I will expect many letters of complaint in the post for saying that!), and embrace Disney! Wise old Rafiki say, "Ah-ha. Change is good.", to which Simba say, "Yeah, but its not easy. I know what I have to do but..." - "but" - but, but, but! "...going back means I'll have to face my past, and I've been running from it for so long". Rafiki proceedes to whack him on his head.

Simba: Ow! Geez! What was that for?!
Rafiki: It doesn't mattah! It's in de past! Lols.
Simba: Yeah, but it still hurts.
Rafiki: Oh, yes, the past can hurt, but the way I see it - you can either run from it or... learn from it! tries hitting him again
Simba: ducks
Rafiki: Ah! You see? So what are you going to do?!
Simba: First - I'm gunna take your stick.
Rafiki: No, no, no, no! Not 'e stick! 'Ey, where are you going?!
Simba: I'm going back!
Rafiki: Good! Go on! Get out of here! Woop! Woot! Cheer!

If only life was as easy as a Disney sing-along musical stolen from a Japanese anime or the epic of Gilgamesh (if I remember correctly)..., but Hitler knows that it isn't; He mentions the eternal struggle. Like tempering iron and moulding it and shaping it into something we want it to be, tempering and moulding (in part) the corpus callosum so that our left and right brains work in tandem is not easy. Heating up the metal to red-hot or white-hot temperatures is fucking painful!

Previous to that above,

Rafiki: Asante sana squash banana, wewe nugu mimi hapana
Simba: Creepy, little monkey. Would you cut it out?
Rafiki: Can't cut it out. It's great fun! Lols.
Simba: Would you quit following me? Who are you?!
Rafiki: The question is whooo... are you?
Simba: ... I thought I knew... Now I'm not so sure...
Rafiki: I know who you are. Come here; it's a secret. Asante sana squash banana, wewe nugu mimi hapana
Simba: Would you stop singing that?! What does that mean anyway?
Rafiki: It means you're a baboon... and I'm not. Lols.
Simba: I think... you're a little confused.
Rafiki: Wrong! Iiii'm not the one who is confused; you don't even know who you are!
Simba: Oh, and I suppose you know.
Rafiki: Sure do. You're Mufasa's boy.
Simba: !
Rafiki: Bye!
Simba: No! Wait!
You knew my father?!
Rafiki: Correction - I know your father.
Simba: I hate to tell you this, but he died... a long time ago.
Rafiki: Nope! Wrong again! Ha-ha! He is alive, and I'll show him to you! You follow Rafiki; he knows the way. Come on.
Don't stop! Hurry up!
Stop!
Shhhhh. Look down there.
Simba: Pfft. That's not my father. Just my reflection.
Rafiki: No... Look harder... You see - he lives in you...

Yeah, that was fun remembering that and typing it, lol. It's a nice Disney plagiarism, and I could have done one of the latest Star Treks - that being Discovery - but I haven't seen all of it and 'to first know yourself you have to know who aliens are' is just retarded BS - Michael is a Boy's name, not a Girl's, whether she's Black or not... with the Yehuborim (((die-versity))), etc., but most people don't know who they are. Satan literally means "Eternal Truth" - the truth of the knowledge of who we are, what we are and where we came from. Along these lines, church preachers must have been getting more and more passionate about "the end times", and if the Yehubor thoughtform of "jesus" has manifest into Physical reality, then that is a dangerous war which is going to happen right before our eyes - if holograms are not input cheat codes, instead. I don't think there is freedom in changing yourself; I think there is freedom in discovering and revealing yourself. (White) Humans (or all? That's something I'm still not certain of; Blacks and Asians have red blood and still look Human, just like Whites do...) are direct descendants, Biologically, of blood, Physically, genetically, of Satan. How can anyone change if they don't know who and what they are and from where they came? Some people want to change who they are, but they don't know who they are.

That's why I'm curious to what extent such change is possible; but perhaps that is not something which can be answered generally, and rather something that depends entirely on the individual's capabilities and determination.

No matter how much I try, I will never be a cup of tea or television signal mast. Yes, I'm being ridiculous, but I think the point makes sense. Maybe think of the internal workings of the Soul, of the Human shape, as like a building with support girders. Change the shape of the Soul and Body, and the girders and supports, etc., will all have to be moved and changed; the new thing then would be different and either would have a new purpose, or would have to have a purpose created for it, to fit it - or perhaps no purpose could be created for it, and then it would become useless and obsolete.