Could Castrate a cat affect his/her soul?

[Quel_tizio]

I know the soul of animals are not the same as the human's soul, but could castrate a cat afflict some area of the soul?

 

[Stormblood]

Yes, sacral chakra would be affected. Creative power in general too, and all spirituality in general, as sexuality is of extreme importance. Animals are at a much higher level spiritually compared to most non-Zevism humans. They have psychic abilities the average person wouldn't dream of. Especially cats.

Not to mention, castrating is a barbaric practice.

 

[Aquarius]

Yes, sacral chakra would be affected. Creative power in general too, and all spirituality in general, as sexuality is of extreme importance. Animals are at a much higher level spiritually compared to most non-Zevism humans. They have psychic abilities the average person wouldn't dream of. Especially cats.

Not to mention, castrating is a barbaric practice.

From HPS Pythia:
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=23654&p=102218&hilit=Cats#p102218

 

[Stormblood]

Yes, sacral chakra would be affected. Creative power in general too, and all spirituality in general, as sexuality is of extreme importance. Animals are at a much higher level spiritually compared to most non-Zevism humans. They have psychic abilities the average person wouldn't dream of. Especially cats.

Not to mention, castrating is a barbaric practice.

From HPS Pythia:
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=23654&p=102218&hilit=Cats#p102218

I remember that topic. Most likely very outdated information. You can meditate on it and you'll find the answer. Also, health is not something dogmatic and faith-based, like they are trying to make us believe with the fake vaccines. There are different approaches to it, not a single one that you have to follow without fail for every single things. Just like there are different approaches to solving spiritual issues, and to designing a spell. There are surely better things to preserve cat health.

Another thing is that animals are not personal properties but partners. Who exactly are you or anyone to decide on such life-altering procedure, especially without consulting the cat who is more spiritually aware and self-aware than most of the population. I doubt even talking to Bastet the 'okay' would be given to perform this.

Pets change personality completely after undergoing such procedures. Why do you think that is? Spiritual damage.

No, this is done out of personal convenience for those who fancy themselves owners of animals and the animals to be personal properties like objects. It's a fashion (much like amputating dog tails) and a torture that has become legitimised and ingrained in modern culture, confusing it with health. Much like broscience, fad diets, low-fat products (including skimmed and semi-skimmed milk),high-carb diets, tattoos, alcohol, and other unhealthy nonsense, but on a completely different scale.

 

[Stormblood]

From HPS Pythia:
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=23654&p=102218&hilit=Cats#p102218

I remember that topic. Most likely very outdated information. You can meditate on it and you'll find the answer. Also, health is not something dogmatic and faith-based, like they are trying to make us believe with the fake vaccines. There are different approaches to it, not a single one that you have to follow without fail for every single things. Just like there are different approaches to solving spiritual issues, and to designing a spell. There are surely better things to preserve cat health.

Another thing is that animals are not personal properties but partners. Who exactly are you or anyone to decide on such life-altering procedure, especially without consulting the cat who is more spiritually aware and self-aware than most of the population. I doubt even talking to Bastet the 'okay' would be given to perform this.

Pets change personality completely after undergoing such procedures. Why do you think that is? Spiritual damage.

No, this is done out of personal convenience for those who fancy themselves owners of animals and the animals to be personal properties like objects. It's a fashion (much like amputating dog tails) and a torture that has become legitimised and ingrained in modern culture, confusing it with health. Much like broscience, fad diets, low-fat products (including skimmed and semi-skimmed milk),high-carb diets, tattoos, alcohol, and other unhealthy nonsense, but on a completely different scale.

There's also medical facts established by medical professionals which don't require faith, but instead are based on science and experience.
They work with large numbers of animals over the course of their careers which gives them experience to know better than the average individual like you or me, and I don't think veterinarians would advise people on the health of their pets based on fads.

I trust Pythia's wisdom on this. She wouldn't take a hard stance on something like this if she wasn't absolutely sure because animals are extremely important to her. That much I can tell about her without having met her. She's not a fool, and she's not dogmatic.

If you're so certain of your position then perhaps you should ask Bastet yourself instead of using her name for leverage to support your rhetoric. Have more respect for our Gods please.

Except most doctors of any kind give negative advice all the time. Many medicine and treatments for example are only prescribed in agreement to enrich Big Pharma, rather than to benefit people. The veterinary industry is no different. To neuter a cat, you need to pay money. It can even cost a lot of money, sometimes even upward of 500 USD depending on many factors, others as little as 35 USD. This is a business. Why would they remove something that makes them money? They wouldn't, for the same reason they don't remove chemotherapy for cancer and actually replace it with a healthy treatment like WW2 regime Germany had.

Many medical facts can also be defeated over time when better discoveries come around. This is what will also happen when quantum mechanics and ether theory will be incorporated in medicine again like they were in Ancient Egypt. Another example is about low-fat products being somewhat healthier when they're not. It has been debunked for at least 5 years, yet all grocery stores still sell that shit, skimmed milk, semi-skimmed milk. Many nutritionists and doctors still swear by it in their ignorance.

And I actually did ask Lady Bastet, because I care about animals like I care about people, unlike those who just go with the flow and established norms. Unlike some people here, I don't "throw names around" just cause.

As far as outdated statements go, these are corrected over time. In the early days of the JoS, we thought the solar plexus chakra was pointed upward. This got corrected over time. Originally, Yaum was used in the middle chakra and Aum in the sixth chakra. This got corrected over time. Originally, the Merkaba meditation had a different number of steps. This was corrected overtime. It also had the energy ball in a different place, which got corrected later on. There was also an auxiliary merkaba meditation which got removed. There were also a scalar wave meditation and other meditations that got removed as well. Many things over time are corrected as new findings arise.

The advice is always the same. Talk to the Gods. Also, have a look at cats before and after this inhumane treatment. Observe not only their behaviour but their soul. Those who have active psychic abilities AND make a 360 degree observation will find the answer.

Let me guess. Next you are going to insinuate I am saying that Lady Pythia was not psychic. I don't need to answer that and have an argument about it, as the answer to that wrong assumption is already in this reply. Furthermore, the user asked something specific and want an answer to that. I gave mine, you gave yours. End of it. This is not going to go like the other time, no matter what kind of attacks you put in your next reply. Sayonara!

 

[Aquarius]

Who exactly are you or anyone to decide on such life-altering procedure, especially without consulting the cat who is more spiritually aware and self-aware than most of the population

If I was to consult my cat he would constantly ask me for meat balls. Also, I'm not sure about your stance on dogs but my dog likes eating other dog's shit from time to time, should I consult him before telling him not to do it?
Also, there are many stray cats, spiritual or not spiritual, if a top cat with a cilinder hat decides that he wants to fuck he will fuck my cat and then I'll have a litter of kittens as my responsability. Your opinion is very idealistic, not suited for the kind of world full of stray cats we're living in, also, Pythia's opinion>your opinion.

 

[tabby]

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You know how during certain moon signs there are specific surgeries you should not do? What if it's the same for animals? And if the procedure was done under a safe moon with the help of a Demon watching over your pet as it is neutered, would they suffer any kind of damage to their soul?

I think that would be a wise thing to ask.

 

[Dark Lawyer]

I know the soul of animals are not the same as the human's soul, but could castrate a cat afflict some area of the soul?

If the question is still relevant. My neutered cat, adopted from the streets, is doing well. I give you a link:

https://szeretemacicamat.blog.hu/2020/03/18/ki_az_a_macska-fogo

(You can translate it well into English with Deepl Translator.) This is the blog and introduction of a fantastic Hungarian man. His work speaks for itself, the cats open up to him in extreme cases. He attention to cats/dogs, and because he attention, he understands their signals. He, along with many other knowledgeable people of conscience, clearly recommends neutering.

Neutering is highly recommended for health reasons if you are a careful and responsible pet host. There is no need to waste time on contrary lay opinions. In 2022, you will find plenty of reliable literature on the subject, but you can also ask a veterinarian who is sympathetic, conscientious and knowledgeable. (I only have resources in Hungarian, if you're interested.)

Anyone who is familiar with this issue and cares about cats knows what happens on the streets. Everything else is some kind of purple hazy dream world, without real knowledge. A picture that sums up the situation well:

http://noeallatotthon-hu.tmp.wombathosting.hu/gallery/pics2/ivart.jpg

The picture shows the number of years, litters and offspring. This is why neutering is a lifesaver. And also, of course, for many health reasons.

 

[Stormblood]

I know the soul of animals are not the same as the human's soul, but could castrate a cat afflict some area of the soul?

If the question is still relevant. My neutered cat, adopted from the streets, is doing well. I give you a link:

https://szeretemacicamat.blog.hu/2020/03/18/ki_az_a_macska-fogo

(You can translate it well into English with Deepl Translator.) This is the blog and introduction of a fantastic Hungarian man. His work speaks for itself, the cats open up to him in extreme cases. He attention to cats/dogs, and because he attention, he understands their signals. He, along with many other knowledgeable people of conscience, clearly recommends neutering.

Neutering is highly recommended for health reasons if you are a careful and responsible pet host. There is no need to waste time on contrary lay opinions. In 2022, you will find plenty of reliable literature on the subject, but you can also ask a veterinarian who is sympathetic, conscientious and knowledgeable. (I only have resources in Hungarian, if you're interested.)

Anyone who is familiar with this issue and cares about cats knows what happens on the streets. Everything else is some kind of purple hazy dream world, without real knowledge. A picture that sums up the situation well:

http://noeallatotthon-hu.tmp.wombathosting.hu/gallery/pics2/ivart.jpg

The picture shows the number of years, litters and offspring. This is why neutering is a lifesaver. And also, of course, for many health reasons.

Again, spoken like someone without spiritual awareness and abilities.

 

[Head Guardian Blitzkreig]

How many vets have you seen like this? I wasn't aware that big pharma focused much on animals. The medicine available for animals is effective, and not really the same as a quack throwing prozac at a patient, or whatever they're giving the kids these days.

I don't really know how to respond to the second part because it contradicts the part of your reply towards Tabby. You said that working class people have animals so they shouldn't be fleeced of their savings, but it was their choice to adopt animals and make the sacrifice. If one would be required to have a fitness certificate to adopt animals then I would think financial fitness would be part of that. If so few were adopting animals until wealth conditions improve then you would also have to consider what to do about all the strays and everything... that takes a hard heart.

I don't think there's any easy solution to the problem of animal suffering especially at this current time. People just have to do the best they can for their animal friends, and act as a force of change as much as they can for the ones they can't adopt.

In regards to animals as pets, yes, there is no easy solution. Humans need to first take care of themselves before they can take care of an animal. In other words, it will take some time before the problem with pets can ever be truly fixed.

As far as vets and big pharma, there are a few good links on the subject, for a vet herself:

https://catinfo.org/vaccines-for-cats-we-need-to-stop-overvaccinating/
https://catinfo.org/#Prescription/Therapeutic_Diets
https://catinfo.org/commercial-cat-foods/

 

[Dark Lawyer]

Again, spoken like someone without spiritual awareness and abilities.

I started by writing about my own experience (if you read it at all). I know, your mind blocks when reality is different than your theory. That's not my problem, I was just describing my own experience.

If you take some advice: if you can't make a substantive contribution to the topic, you don't need to post just to be make comments with a personal tone. This is not worthy of a spiritual master like you.

Although when I think about it, I did the Zevism initiation ceremony and the 47-day meditation program, and I meditate every day. Would a person without spiritual awareness do that?

You already posted assumptions about me in the other thread that were nowhere near reality. I refuted these with specific quotes, to which you of course did not respond. So I'm beginning to doubt that you are as elevated as you conspicuously try to make yourself out to be in all your posts. Again, of course this is not my problem. But I would ask you to stop your baseless, personal attempts to discredit me. Thank you.

(If you know me so fucking well, you've read about my situation. You've also read that I've fucked up my life by making bad decisions. You've also read how hard I'm working to save what I can. Yeah, it's fucking hard for me to be spiritual right now. But I think you'd be surprised to know how many Zevism writings I've read in the past, and how many hundreds of pages I've written as a result of my own spiritual quest.)

 

[Stormblood]

Again, spoken like someone without spiritual awareness and abilities.

I started by writing about my own experience (if you read it at all). I know, your mind blocks when reality is different than your theory. That's not my problem, I was just describing my own experience.

If you take some advice: if you can't make a substantive contribution to the topic, you don't need to post just to be make comments with a personal tone. This is not worthy of a spiritual master like you.

Although when I think about it, I did the Zevism initiation ceremony and the 47-day meditation program, and I meditate every day. Would a person without spiritual awareness do that?

You already posted assumptions about me in the other thread that were nowhere near reality. I refuted these with specific quotes, to which you of course did not respond. So I'm beginning to doubt that you are as elevated as you conspicuously try to make yourself out to be in all your posts. Again, of course this is not my problem. But I would ask you to stop your baseless, personal attempts to discredit me. Thank you.

(If you know me so fucking well, you've read about my situation. You've also read that I've fucked up my life by making bad decisions. You've also read how hard I'm working to save what I can. Yeah, it's fucking hard for me to be spiritual right now. But I think you'd be surprised to know how many Zevism writings I've read in the past, and how many hundreds of pages I've written as a result of my own spiritual quest.)

Spiritual awareness has levels. In the case of a cat, physically you can observe changes in their behaviour. Spiritually, you will observe changes in their chakras, energy flow, and other functions of their soul. Just because you completed the 40-days programme (it's 40 days), it doesn't mean you automatically an enlightened master with perfect astral sight. You have nothing to contribute to this topic. You need to study more and gain more spiritual experience and ability, before making superficial comments about animals being fine when neutered.

 

[Dark Lawyer]

Just because you completed the 40-days programme (it's 40 days),

47 days.

 

[Dark Lawyer]

We also need to remember that even experienced brothers like Stormblood aren't perfect, and though a lot more is expected of them as community leaders and role models, they are also learning and growing just like we are.

This is new information... Is Stormblood a community leader and role model? :shock: Judging by his posts he must be 20 years old and living in some hippy dream world. But at least he has plenty of time to cool down.

It says that I have no spiritual awareness. I reply that it must be more than nothing if I have done the initiation, the 47-day program, and meditate every day. He writes back: "Just because you completed the 40-days programme (it's 40 days), it doesn't mean you automatically an enlightened master with perfect astral sight." ... He played the same game in the other topic: he regularly attributes thoughts to me that I have not written and are not present in my life.

Now the latest is that I'm some sort of serf that Sir Stormblood is condemning to exile from this topic: "You have nothing to contribute to this topic." :lol: As usual, he is not put off by the fact that I live with a cat, and I regularly consult a vet who knows what he is doing and genuinely loves animals. As usual, he cannot respond to the picture I have inserted. Stormblood says everyone who is not him is a liar. What he is up to here is yet another adolescent antics.

Everyone should seek out and consult a responsible, truly animal-friendly vet on this subject. This is not a simple forum topic to be settled with a hippy vision. It is more complex than that.

 

[Aquarius]

it creates bad karma for the doctor performing neutering and the owner as well. stunting a living beings spiritual growth and capability is the biggest kind of sin there is. even higher than killing it. To anyone reading this, dont neuter your pets. without understanding the spiritual significance of things dont do anything. every activity that i do in a day, im being guided directly or indirectly. its all a cosmic game after a point.

It doesn't create any bad karma.