Coffe and spiritual deveploment

Aug 20, 2022#1

I recently quit caffeine all together. I love the smell, the taste, the process of making coffee. But it's hard on your body. While quitting isn't that hard, you can definitely feel it when you're used to having a cup a day.

Caffeine doesn't give you free energy, you're taking the reserved energy your body has and using it all at once.

We are Zevists, which means you can perform workings to increase your energy anyways, to the same effect as caffeine. It is unnecessary.

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I recently quit caffeine all together. I love the smell, the taste, the process of making coffee. But it's hard on your body. While quitting isn't that hard, you can definitely feel it when you're used to having a cup a day.

Caffeine doesn't give you free energy, you're taking the reserved energy your body has and using it all at once.

We are Zevists, which means you can perform workings to increase your energy anyways, to the same effect as caffeine. It is unnecessary.

Aug 20, 2022#2

88HungarianSatanicWarrior666said:
I greetings to all true Zevism.
I have read many comments on this forum about coffee, but none of them have been satisfactory answers.
So I would ask those true Zevism who are reading this, do you think coffee is harmful to spiritual development?
Because I have yet to see anyone here claiming that it is harmful.I have read sermons on drugs,alcohol,cigarettes,not to mention other stronger and harder drugs(LSD,cocaine,etc,etc,),that are clearly harmful to spiritual health.
But do according think coffee is also harmful to spiritual development?
Because I haven't seen it specifically mentioned anywhere that coffee is harmful to spiritual development.I tried to look at several other non-Satanic sources, but I couldn't find anything.These sources did not even mention the connection between coffee and the energy bodies and chakras.

The thing with coffee, or the caffeïne is that it makes you feel more energetic only to crash later. (Increases energy level, and then after it wears off, this decreases below what you woke up with.)
Coffee is also a diuretic, in that it removes water from the body but not so much any waste products dissolved in the blood.
Overuse of coffee can lead to complaints with the fingers and other places. They'd become stiff and painful because the uretic something gets piled up there and not removed from the body.

It seems coffee is mostly used as a coverup for tiredness. But if you slept well and if you did yoga you don't need it at all.

Unless you have a physical complaint because coffee in fact is listed as a medicinal herb.

Coffee doesn't cause you to hallucinate, nor does it seemingly end up in your nervous system somewhere.
I think that this is the reason that people are not that much against the use and drinking of coffee.

Personally, I can't drink coffee anymore because the caffeïne has a big effect on me in that it causes heart palpitations, or a raised heartbeat, and I can feel that. Makes me uncomfortable.
Not that I drank a lot anyway.

I hope the information was helpful. Even though it might not entirely answer your question.

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88HungarianSatanicWarrior666said:
I greetings to all true Zevism.
I have read many comments on this forum about coffee, but none of them have been satisfactory answers.
So I would ask those true Zevism who are reading this, do you think coffee is harmful to spiritual development?
Because I have yet to see anyone here claiming that it is harmful.I have read sermons on drugs,alcohol,cigarettes,not to mention other stronger and harder drugs(LSD,cocaine,etc,etc,),that are clearly harmful to spiritual health.
But do according think coffee is also harmful to spiritual development?
Because I haven't seen it specifically mentioned anywhere that coffee is harmful to spiritual development.I tried to look at several other non-Satanic sources, but I couldn't find anything.These sources did not even mention the connection between coffee and the energy bodies and chakras.

The thing with coffee, or the caffeïne is that it makes you feel more energetic only to crash later. (Increases energy level, and then after it wears off, this decreases below what you woke up with.)
Coffee is also a diuretic, in that it removes water from the body but not so much any waste products dissolved in the blood.
Overuse of coffee can lead to complaints with the fingers and other places. They'd become stiff and painful because the uretic something gets piled up there and not removed from the body.

It seems coffee is mostly used as a coverup for tiredness. But if you slept well and if you did yoga you don't need it at all.

Unless you have a physical complaint because coffee in fact is listed as a medicinal herb.

Coffee doesn't cause you to hallucinate, nor does it seemingly end up in your nervous system somewhere.
I think that this is the reason that people are not that much against the use and drinking of coffee.

Personally, I can't drink coffee anymore because the caffeïne has a big effect on me in that it causes heart palpitations, or a raised heartbeat, and I can feel that. Makes me uncomfortable.
Not that I drank a lot anyway.

I hope the information was helpful. Even though it might not entirely answer your question.

Aug 20, 2022#3

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Not sure if the other one went through completely.

88HungarianSatanicWarrior666said:
I greetings to all true Zevism.
I have read many comments on this forum about coffee, but none of them have been satisfactory answers.
So I would ask those true Zevism who are reading this, do you think coffee is harmful to spiritual development?
Because I have yet to see anyone here claiming that it is harmful.I have read sermons on drugs,alcohol,cigarettes,not to mention other stronger and harder drugs(LSD,cocaine,etc,etc,),that are clearly harmful to spiritual health.
But do according think coffee is also harmful to spiritual development?
Because I haven't seen it specifically mentioned anywhere that coffee is harmful to spiritual development.I tried to look at several other non-Satanic sources, but I couldn't find anything.These sources did not even mention the connection between coffee and the energy bodies and chakras.

The thing with coffee, or the caffeïne is that it makes you feel more energetic only to crash later. (Increases energy level, and then after it wears off, this decreases below what you woke up with.)
Coffee is also a diuretic, in that it removes water from the body but not so much any waste products dissolved in the blood.
Overuse of coffee can lead to complaints with the fingers and other places. They'd become stiff and painful because the uretic something gets piled up there and not removed from the body.

It seems coffee is mostly used as a coverup for tiredness. But if you slept well and if you did yoga you don't need it at all.

Unless you have a physical complaint because coffee in fact is listed as a medicinal herb.

Coffee doesn't cause you to hallucinate, nor does it seemingly end up in your nervous system somewhere.
I think that this is the reason that people are not that much against the use and drinking of coffee.

Personally, I can't drink coffee anymore because the caffeïne has a big effect on me in that it causes heart palpitations, or a raised heartbeat, and I can feel that. Makes me uncomfortable.
Not that I drank a lot anyway.

I hope the information was helpful. Even though it might not entirely answer your question.

Temporarily inactive.

Not sure if the other one went through completely.

88HungarianSatanicWarrior666said:
I greetings to all true Zevism.
I have read many comments on this forum about coffee, but none of them have been satisfactory answers.
So I would ask those true Zevism who are reading this, do you think coffee is harmful to spiritual development?
Because I have yet to see anyone here claiming that it is harmful.I have read sermons on drugs,alcohol,cigarettes,not to mention other stronger and harder drugs(LSD,cocaine,etc,etc,),that are clearly harmful to spiritual health.
But do according think coffee is also harmful to spiritual development?
Because I haven't seen it specifically mentioned anywhere that coffee is harmful to spiritual development.I tried to look at several other non-Satanic sources, but I couldn't find anything.These sources did not even mention the connection between coffee and the energy bodies and chakras.

The thing with coffee, or the caffeïne is that it makes you feel more energetic only to crash later. (Increases energy level, and then after it wears off, this decreases below what you woke up with.)
Coffee is also a diuretic, in that it removes water from the body but not so much any waste products dissolved in the blood.
Overuse of coffee can lead to complaints with the fingers and other places. They'd become stiff and painful because the uretic something gets piled up there and not removed from the body.

It seems coffee is mostly used as a coverup for tiredness. But if you slept well and if you did yoga you don't need it at all.

Unless you have a physical complaint because coffee in fact is listed as a medicinal herb.

Coffee doesn't cause you to hallucinate, nor does it seemingly end up in your nervous system somewhere.
I think that this is the reason that people are not that much against the use and drinking of coffee.

Personally, I can't drink coffee anymore because the caffeïne has a big effect on me in that it causes heart palpitations, or a raised heartbeat, and I can feel that. Makes me uncomfortable.
Not that I drank a lot anyway.

I hope the information was helpful. Even though it might not entirely answer your question.

Aug 20, 2022#4

If you feel you need the caffeine boost, look into yerba mate instead of coffee. The caffeine in yerba mate is smoother, no jitters or crashes, and research shows yerba mate is nourishing to the body, not harmful like coffee.

As for whether or not it harms spiritual development, I honestly don't know. I've never had coffee before.

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Aug 20, 2022#5

It all depends on your moderation of intake. If you drink 7-8 cups of coffee a day, this is not good for your parasympathetic nervous system, which may lead to sleep disorders and other ailments that is of an unpleasant nature. I could elaborate in the physiological aspect what this does to your body if you want, though, it takes a relatively high amount of caffeine over a very long time to have detrimental effects, as the body adjusts with time.

I drink coffee nearly every day (2-3 cups), and have done that for over a decade. My Spiritual progress has been fine regardless of caffeine consumption. Spiritually speaking, I have never experienced any inconvenience regarding my chakras when it comes to caffeine. Caffeine haven't affected my spiritual progress.

I once asked my GD regarding coffee and caffeine intake, as there was once a huge debate on this subject. I basically was led to the conclusion there are caffeine in different soft drinks and even food. People tend to addiction where they have a habit of consuming too much. People drink as much as 2 or 3 energy drinks, and even drink Coca Cola and/or Pepsi Max (including other soft drinks) on the top of that. The caffeine intake is, therefore, quite high, and an addiction has emerged.

Moderation is essential for your physical and spiritual health.

It all depends on your moderation of intake. If you drink 7-8 cups of coffee a day, this is not good for your parasympathetic nervous system, which may lead to sleep disorders and other ailments that is of an unpleasant nature. I could elaborate in the physiological aspect what this does to your body if you want, though, it takes a relatively high amount of caffeine over a very long time to have detrimental effects, as the body adjusts with time.

I drink coffee nearly every day (2-3 cups), and have done that for over a decade. My Spiritual progress has been fine regardless of caffeine consumption. Spiritually speaking, I have never experienced any inconvenience regarding my chakras when it comes to caffeine. Caffeine haven't affected my spiritual progress.

I once asked my GD regarding coffee and caffeine intake, as there was once a huge debate on this subject. I basically was led to the conclusion there are caffeine in different soft drinks and even food. People tend to addiction where they have a habit of consuming too much. People drink as much as 2 or 3 energy drinks, and even drink Coca Cola and/or Pepsi Max (including other soft drinks) on the top of that. The caffeine intake is, therefore, quite high, and an addiction has emerged.

Moderation is essential for your physical and spiritual health.

Aug 20, 2022#6

I just found the thread of the subject I was talking about. You can find the link to the thread here:

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=24228

Here is an excellent answer from Zevism Centralforce on this particular matter:

There are some fairly extreme views being presented here and many of them are either exaggerated or plainly not true, whether due to ignorance or misconception.

I am going to set some of them straight because many people lack the understanding of some finer points which leads to all kinds of ridiculous assumptions.

The first misconception is that because a plant has a chemical in it which is poisonous or a defense mechanism towards something else that it is automatically poisonous to humans.

Some of the most powerful vitamins in the body are poison in a sense where too much can cause severe organ failure and even death. Vitamin E is an example. Selenium is another. Vitamin A also joins that list. All very powerful anti-oxidant vitamins which protect the human body and both very poisonous.

In actual fact, nearly every substance in existence is and can be poisonous to the human organism in large enough quantities with very few exceptions. Dose is important and not all things cause death but even an overdose of water can cause kidney failure (or drowning if one considers that to be a huge overdose of water).

Nitrous Oxide is produced by the cells as a paracrine (local) hormone which causes vasodilation however taken systemically into the blood stream this causes nervous system disruption on a massive scale including blacking out and the blocking of pain signals.

Many fruits, vegetables and other plant based matters also block the absorption of nutrients, in fact any vegetable that includes tannins (including spinach, also high in iron) will block the iron absorption in the gut of any iron taken simultaneously. The timing of foods containing tannins and iron containing foods is important to reduce the risk of malabsorption of vital iron into the blood (also, iron is terribly toxic in high quantities but also essential to human life).

Coffee, like most of the hot drink herbs contains caffeine.

Other caffeinated foods include:

- cocoa (v. small amounts, almost undetectable but present),
- Black tea,
- Green tea (definitely has caffeine in it, Matcha (refined green tea) has more caffeine than coffee).

The darker of the three, coffee, cocoa and black tea also contain significant numbers of polyphenols which serve as potent antioxidants in the body.

All four of the above (except cocoa) are potent diuretics and activate kidney function in removing water from the body by stimulating atrial natriuretic peptide from their vasoconstrictive actions (the right atrium of the heart releases this hormone into the blood in response to stretching of the atrial wall in the heart in response to increased blood pressure, a result of systemic vasoconstriction).

Coffee is also a bitter which makes it the most potent of the diuretics and also gives a benefit to the stomach by clearing out old matter by stimulating stomach emptying (gastric emptying).

Therefore, coffee and the other listed items above are herbs which have a specific use..

In many cultures, coffee is the first beverage of the day in order to prepare the stomach for food.

Following this, there is usually some period of time which elapses before eating and then food is taken into the clean stomach.

Coffee also promotes defecation which assists one to move the bowels in the morning.

The above items are all things which occur as part of parasympathetic stimulation, the opposite of fight flight which shuts the stomach and digestive organs down.

A too high dose of coffee will of course, play havoc with the body, as does too high a dose of any substance.

The increased blood pressure and caffeine thereof can lead to jitters, nervousness and heart palpitations.

This is not ideal and having coffee to the point where you experience the above is a poor choice, which exceeds the dose of an otherwise useful remedy as described above.

So in reality, the true problem is a lack of self control and understanding, blamed on a plant whose consumption dates back many centuries.

The "deadly" lays purely in an individual's inability to understand and say no to something harmful or harmful amounts of something good, just as a wayward teenager who does not understand the consequences of speeding fast in their car is likely to crash horribly as a result of their own poor choices.

Is the car therefore inherently evil and bad?

I think not.