Caution Regarding Divinatory Readings

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Absolutely, you've touched upon a very important point that needs to be addressed. Even though today's youth might not genuinely know these things, they often pretend to for the sake of appearing 'cool', unaware of the potential consequences.
Well, Lady Lydia, what do you think is the most important aspect of tarot reading? How can we improve ourselves in this regard? Could you give us a few tips?
Best wishes

I know someone, a "Satanist", who, in addition to studying from fake sources, the only meditation he performed was to enter the astral plane and deal with fictitious entities. He had a great job and business opportunity in Dubai, with all expenses paid. After months, he told me that he had left this opportunity because a divination reading with runes had suggested this to him.
This choice has totally changed his life, and years later all he can do is follow a job from which he receives little financial satisfaction, and which leaves him little free time.
True advancement in the spiritual sphere also involves insight into the qualities of the spiritual experiences we encounter. Because, a Spiritual Satanist develops a natural intuition that pushes him towards self-realization in the best possible way, materially and spiritually.

Illusion is a real limit, what we spiritual Satanists can do is not participate in the consolidation of other people's illusion. Wisdom is required, and advancement in this path, to minimize errors, and in any case always recommend how to tend towards the wisest path.
Divination is a spiritual skill, that goes with the intent of wisdom.
Thank you, HPS Lydia.

Thank you HPS Lydia.

But what about people who, despite still being new to Tarot, have a deeper connection to it, use intuition and are capable of actually giving out good readings?

Does the above, that you mentioned, still stand despite that? I'm genuinely curious. Thank you!

Very wise words Lydia, unfortunately spirituality has turned into a business for every con man who exploits the ignorance and suffering of people leading them most of the time to dependence and destruction. People who appear as "spiritual teachers" but who in fact have no real spiritual progress appear everywhere on social networks giving most of the time wrong information to their clients. All those who belong to this New Age movement whether they are "spiritual masters" or a follower have a deep Christian background and expect that they will push a button and all problems will be magically solved without any real spiritual progress that goes deep and time and ultimately transforms the soul. Real spirituality as we learn here in Jos has to do first of all with Kundalini upliftment and real transformation of the soul something that takes a lot of work and many years of practice, resulting in rising to higher divine levels and having contact with our real Gods and not with false parasitic entities. Most of them after being destroyed go back to Christianity terrified and become fanatical preachers warning others not to bother because they are evil and Satanic and will go to hell. Youtube is full of channels of such idiots and deceived people saying they finally found the truth in Jesus. The New Age movement ultimately works for the benefit of Christianity with no other reason for existence, it offers nothing nor real spiritual practices nor truth nor progress and in the end Satan is the bad guy and Jesus is the good guy

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that making a reading for a Zevism that regularly meditates and does Energy Work should be significantly more complex and require even more skill than usual. Our destiny and our souls should be much more "unpredictable" and things that would apply for a regular person do not always apply to us.

People think it's all cool and fun with divination, but it can literally break an individual mentally if one doesn't have the right approach to these things and doesn't know how to deal with what is said to him. This is why I felt like writing this post some time ago: https://ancient-forums.com/index.php?threads/as-a-satanist-your-natal-chart-is-just-your-starting-point.87672/

Absolutely, you've touched upon a very important point that needs to be addressed. Even though today's youth might not genuinely know these things, they often pretend to for the sake of appearing 'cool', unaware of the potential consequences.
Well, Lady Lydia, what do you think is the most important aspect of tarot reading? How can we improve ourselves in this regard? Could you give us a few tips?
Best wishes

There will be more on the ToZ regarding tarot soon. Everything is being organized first, and then it will be made public :)

I know someone, a "Satanist", who, in addition to studying from fake sources, the only meditation he performed was to enter the astral plane and deal with fictitious entities. He had a great job and business opportunity in Dubai, with all expenses paid. After months, he told me that he had left this opportunity because a divination reading with runes had suggested this to him.
This choice has totally changed his life, and years later all he can do is follow a job from which he receives little financial satisfaction, and which leaves him little free time.
True advancement in the spiritual sphere also involves insight into the qualities of the spiritual experiences we encounter. Because, a Spiritual Satanist develops a natural intuition that pushes him towards self-realization in the best possible way, materially and spiritually.

Illusion is a real limit, what we spiritual Satanists can do is not participate in the consolidation of other people's illusion. Wisdom is required, and advancement in this path, to minimize errors, and in any case always recommend how to tend towards the wisest path.
Divination is a spiritual skill, that goes with the intent of wisdom.
Thank you, HPS Lydia.

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Thank you for sharing this. There have been many more cases of people who made mistakes with their lives based on readings, it is so sad. We need to be careful.

Thank you HPS Lydia.

But what about people who, despite still being new to Tarot, have a deeper connection to it, use intuition and are capable of actually giving out good readings?

Does the above, that you mentioned, still stand despite that? I'm genuinely curious. Thank you!

This is great, and any members with talent should definitely keep practicing and perhaps work to be verified here if they want to help other members. I had a natural talent for it right from the first time I tried it, but there can still be things missed or mistaken, or the inquirer might take something to mean something else.

Many people in the world have caused ruin to their lives from incorrect interpretations of divination readings (tarot, astrology, tea leaves, dream interpretation, etc).

The reason why? A lot of people, especially non-Zevism, who offer these readings are not at a high level of awareness or wisdom. And people get readings from them thinking (or at least hoping) these people have true insight.

Regarding tarot specifically, each card has many meanings – beneficial, malefic, and neutral. It isn’t as straightforward as astrology. A reading might seem fun when you first get it, but then what, if the interpretation turns out to be inaccurate and influenced you to make a mistake in life?

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Good news.

There will be more on the JoS regarding tarot soon. Everything is being organized first, and then it will be made public :)

Thank you for sharing this. There have been many more cases of people who made mistakes with their lives based on readings, it is so sad. We need to be careful.

This is great, and any members with talent should definitely keep practicing and perhaps work to be verified here if they want to help other members. I had a natural talent for it right from the first time I tried it, but there can still be things missed or mistaken, or the inquirer might take something to mean something else.

Greetings Lady Lydia, this is partially unrelated to the thread but I am still curious about it.
I tried divination with the pendulum for predicting specific results and I didn't quite succeed consistently yet, yet I tried divination by basically visualization and letting my inner self give me the answer and I had better results, especially when using my upper chakras.
I think I can improve this by of course practicing as in any skill and empowerment meditation, but is there gonna be information regarding to this type of divination on the JoS? I'm just curious.

Excellent points made here. Knowing people and getting a feel for what the cards mean is a huge necessity with Tarot. The cards are so complex they can have tons of meanings. Note-taking is EXTREMELY important.

Never, ever try to 'make' Tarot give good readings for you by using it over and over again. It will never work. Most people get hung up on this, especially New Agers who assume everything will go 'well' for them 'because of the unconditional love (to me of course) from the universe'.

Most people are deluded about their relationships, etc. and Tarot will tell them the brutal truth. One friend of mine was buzzing about moving abroad and thought it was a permanent new start, as her insane abusive boyfriend had dragged her into this scheme and brainwashed her. She kept pulling the Six of Swords as for how it would all end... which obviously she kept interpreting to be 'good' in some way. She also drew the Eight of Swords.

Surely, after 9 months or so, he found the new country 'intolerable' (as he neither went our nor socialized nor got a job, just continuing the same miserable lifestyle he led while in his home country, while she had actually settled happily into her work life there and learned the language) and they moved back. They eventually broke up.

Beyond the result, the Six and Eight of Swords in this case reflected HER sadness at her professional life and friends being taken away by his stupid whims, both times, being imprisoned and having to transition.

The point is, perhaps to anyone savvy knowing the ins-and-outs of their relationship, this was inevitable, but for her it was not. Imagine giving a reading for her at the peak of her love fantasy. This was not an unintelligent person either, she has psychic ability herself. But she ignored her INTUITION (this came in dozens of times via visions, etc., not just the cards) by making her mind set on making it 'work'.

Everyone has to make mistakes to evolve, Satanists included. However, a Satanist at a certain point of evolution in this type of situation must at some point go beyond their limits and put their foot down, rather than interpret the cards to mean something else or blame the cards.

While fortune tellers must be ethical and many simply are con men or dangerously blunt, plenty of Tarot readers and clients of fortune tellers are also vampires and expect whatever the reading consists of to validate their bad decisions. If their delusions aren't met (especially about money and relationships, touchy subjects), they can get angry and even violent. Tarot readers can feel intimidated by this, adjusting their practice around placating people and this type of artificiality (fear and not telling the truth) can lead them to the enemy.

Astrology can often garner similar delusions. A major necessity in practicing Astrology is self-awareness. I don't know how many idiots I've met who claim 'Only "Vedic" (Sidereal) Astrology is real, Western Astrology is an experiment in colonialism, exploiting brown people and polluting the environment because I never identified with my Tropical Sun sign at all!"... and then they act exactly like their Tropical Chart indicates.

Greetings Lady Lydia, this is partially unrelated to the thread but I am still curious about it.
I tried divination with the pendulum for predicting specific results and I didn't quite succeed consistently yet, yet I tried divination by basically visualization and letting my inner self give me the answer and I had better results, especially when using my upper chakras.
I think I can improve this by of course practicing as in any skill and empowerment meditation, but is there gonna be information regarding to this type of divination on the JoS? I'm just curious.

I've found the same thing. Feeling out the answers. Those who have good intuition can do this, even those who are without, as long as they have the natural talent, either from past lives or inherited. I'm sure there will be more info regarding this on the ToZ, but perhaps not anytime soon.

I dont care how much you disapprove my posts, you had no right to abruptly delete my thread just like that. My readings are not nuclear bombs that will kill another Zevism, they are not Medusas eyes so you would be turned to stone if you even DARE look at them. What you did was WRONG.

And now you are deleting my replies too??? SO much for the "free speech you" believe in...

At least, you could have been nicer maybe and not such an irritable morality police, and actually enlightened me on the reason, but no. You felt like being rude and distasteful today.

I hate you... why do you dismiss me like im some sort of thorn on the backside...
why...

youre supposed to be a high priestess, kind. at least towards our own dedicated. apparently you dont like my writings and you keep disapproving them because you feel offended or some shit.

It would have been fine if you issued these warnings, valuable even, but there was ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING NEED for you to treat me like a threat to this place and delete everything...

So much for your "freedom advocacy"... this is censorship..

disapprove this one as well. I hope the gods remind you of where you are in your journey, and show you just how unnecessary it was at least, to talk to me that way.

An aquaintance of mine once went to a fortune teller to get a reading about her relationship she just got into. They thold her that she would experience difficulties and that he would not be faithful.

What happened was that it was a self-fulfilling prophecy; she was very insecure and went increasingly paranoid as the relationship went on. She was jealous of every girl that was too close to him and after some time she even tracked his phone. And after some time he could not take her anymore and cheated on her with his ex-girlfriend..

Of course, any advice by the people around her fell on deaf ears, because that reading had to be "true".

Probably they would've had their difficult times anyways, but what she'd been told influenced her behaviour from the start for the worst.

I dont care how much you disapprove my posts, you had no right to abruptly delete my thread just like that. My readings are not nuclear bombs that will kill another Zevism, they are not Medusas eyes so you would be turned to stone if you even DARE look at them. What you did was WRONG.

And now you are deleting my replies too??? SO much for the "free speech you" believe in...

Brother, first you have to calm down as HPS Lydia has proper reasons for the actions she is taking. Most or all of your replies were deleted not as a matter of suppressing your side of the story, but because you were overreacting towards her, assuming malice or other negative behaviors from her. Instead of this, you should try to learn more of her opinions and her advice about how to proceed moving forward.

Your thread was deleted, if not due to quality concerns, but also because you had started charging for money. As HPS Lydia stated, people need to be approved to do this to avoid mistakes or other negative outcomes from poor quality.

That doesn't mean that you should feel hopeless and see no future with this, or that you are completely unskilled, but rather that the environment for growing your skills, at this point in your tarot career, was deemed inappropriate. I cannot be the one to paint a full idea of what would be appropriate, but the first step would be to calm down and try discuss with HPS Lydia or HPZM, without reacting with extreme anger.

It is ok to explain your situation and also your feelings, such that you felt angry and confused about her judgement, but it isn't ok to use this to conclude she is wrong, or just being rude, or other character attacks. If your skills are actually at a level greater than what you believe HPS Lydia has currently perceived, then this would only be resolved by further interactions with her about advancing your "tarot career", not by going against her.

I’ve been reading this today,

But for me circling left is yes and circling right is No. Is that still valid ?

what is actually moving the pendulum ?

I dont care how much you disapprove my posts, you had no right to abruptly delete my thread just like that. My readings are not nuclear bombs that will kill another Zevism, they are not Medusas eyes so you would be turned to stone if you even DARE look at them. What you did was WRONG.

And now you are deleting my replies too??? SO much for the "free speech you" believe in...

You had no right to start that thread, you didn't ask permission to any superior. If you're behaving like this, then I seriously doubt your emotional maturity to conduct tarot readings. Also your signature now makes us understand the emotional maturity that you possess, like a kid who's toy was taken away.

We believe in free speech, we don't believe in insubordination, by being in this forum you accept its rules. If a higher up tells you something is not to be done, and gives you the reasons for that, you stop and if you want you ask for an explanation.

With this behavior you have basically ruined your reputation in the JoS forums, was it worth it?

You had no right to start that thread, you didn't ask permission to any superior. If you're behaving like this, then I seriously doubt your emotional maturity to conduct tarot readings. Also your signature now makes us understand the emotional maturity that you possess, like a kid who's toy was taken away.

We believe in free speech, we don't believe in insubordination, by being in this forum you accept its rules. If a higher up tells you something is not to be done, and gives you the reasons for that, you stop and if you want you ask for an explanation.

With this behavior you have basically ruined your reputation in the JoS forums, was it worth it?

There is nothing wrong with offering free readings, especially in a public space. People who respond to them should have sense enough to take them for what they are, and TWG did well on my query FYI. I don't see why permission would suddenly be required to start a thread in this case when the precedent was already set by numerous other users starting threads and offering readings, or accepting requests, without appearing to have asked "permission" either. Permission is implicit in the fact that the thread was approved in the first place.

Besides, you are not a JG, who are you to say who has rights to do what and who are you to speak for anybody in the forum?