California, UBI

[Eric13]

Curious of peoples thoughts on this program passed last month in California?

Two sides, one is against as it’s seen as a socialist program. Free money. Not good. Horrible for the economy.

The other side, is well, it’s not going to everyone necessarily. It’s money that’s being put aside that local governments can apply for for their own UBI pilot programs. Which, IMO can’t truly be called UBI because the money doesn’t go to everyone. It’s seems to primarily be for foster kids getting ready to graduate out of their care facilities and have no parents for support and for single mothers, and struggling families. Which is exactly what HP Hoodedcobra brought up in a recent sermon as a good idea. It’s only 35 million for the whole state. Not much. So maybe this is a good thing since it’s going to mothers, struggling families and foster kids without parents? Weird that they’re labeling it as UBI though. And calling it the first of its kind in this country. Cause this is going to cause controversy as a socialist policy and if it succeeds all the left will use it to say “See UBI is good! Socialism is good!” Even though it’s not true UBI.

I’m already seeing the backlash from the right, but maybe it’s simply cause it’s labeled as UBi. It’s more emergency welfare. Which isn’t socialist.

My understanding is each local jurisdiction in California can create their own program and then apply for funding from the states set aside money. Each program therefor is different. Some are creating programs that are not directed to only struggling families. Some are no strings attached, free money, to anyone below a certain income bracket. Who knows if they’ll be approved for funding, but the whole thing is interesting enough to keep an eye on.

 

[Hp. Hoodedcobra666]

Welfare is not UBI. All what you describe is welfare programs.

UBI means universal basic income. No matter who one is, they get it.

Welfare is based upon discrimination between who needs it and who doesn't. UBI does not discriminate.

Welfare programs are better than UBI because they provided aimed and specialized help. What does a billionaire need 1000$ for? Many people don't even need that money.

Does a person making 10 million yearly, also need let's say 1000$ on top of it, while another dies by the street but we have to give it to "everyone cause UBI"?

UBI is like a fetish word that's all there is to it. It will not really provide any security from death or anything. It will be similar to unemployment benefits, which are already present in most States and in Europe. These pay handsomely until one can find a job.

The UBI theme was started by rich jews. Zuckerberg started this meme some years ago, because he wanted to pretend he is a good reptilian or something. The idea they had back then was that this money could be siphoned instantly from the populace as a whole back then, to enrich them more than it would cause inflation.

This is the fastest way to kill the dollar, which will drive down the drain millions of Americans. Another super fast way, is incessant printing of shekels to give them to rich buddies of those at the top, again causing a devaluation of the dollar.

Welfare however can also backfire, if it is too high and people are dissuaded from working and so on.

Removing the incentive to live, survive, work etc, causes downfall of people. Many people even if they have money but they have nothing to do, they feel like they have no meaning, and they engage their existence in doing nothing. This might sit well with many who might love to freeload, but it would only last a while.

At the rate things are going with automation robots, etc, welfare or however it's going to be named, will be helpful for many. The Jew Harari has explained that they are going to create a "workless class" where won't be "needed", and they want to keep it fed somehow with very basic things so that it doesn't revolt or ask for anything else.

Welfare isn't exactly jews being good.

 

[Eric13]

Well it’s not me calling it UBI because yeah, that’s exactly what I thought. I don’t know why they’re calling it UBI and saying it’s the first of its kind in the nation. Maybe there’s more to it I’m not understanding, which is why I wanted peoples input if they knew more about this bill? My understanding is the money is set aside for funding local UBI pilot programs. That’s what I’m reading on many news sites, but yes, it just sounds like standard welfare.

My main reason for trying to understand what’s going on with this bill, is it’s coming from the ‘liberal shit hole’ California. I can’t understand why they would want to do anything actually good. Or is it presented as good but actually full of jew agenda? Is this an rtr win for families? Or a new jew trick? I guess we don’t know. They sure are trying to make it sound socialist though.

 

[Hp. Hoodedcobra666]

Well it’s not me calling it UBI because yeah, that’s exactly what I thought. I don’t know why they’re calling it UBI and saying it’s the first of its kind in the nation. Maybe there’s more to it I’m not understanding, which is why I wanted peoples input if they knew more about this bill? My understanding is the money is set aside for funding local UBI pilot programs. That’s what I’m reading on many news sites, but yes, it just sounds like standard welfare.

My main reason for trying to understand what’s going on with this bill, is it’s coming from the ‘liberal shit hole’ California. I can’t understand why they would want to do anything actually good. Or is it presented as good but actually full of jew agenda? Is this an rtr win for families? Or a new jew trick? I guess we don’t know. They sure are trying to make it sound socialist though.

Can you point to a link or source for this?

Well, they are calling it UBI because they want to convince people positively towards the idea of generalized and indiscriminate welfare. But since this can't be achieved, they just name other things like that.

If this could be achieved it could only be achieved by taxing the biggest tax evading companies, or printing dollars. Or both. So the situation points to that the hegemonies will keep existing financially, with just the US printing money, and devaluing the dollar.

Yes, they always politicize these matters. Personally I'd only want something that is fair, just, and works for people. And something that doesn't conform to the jewish agenda of making people useless or causing an impairment.

California, even if it's the best things they could theoretically try to implement, always fills me with suspicion, knowing that it's a very weird liberal place.

No wonder, they would also making this policy unclear or present it as whatever for them to gain a specific edge on this whole globo agenda.

 

[Henu the Great]

Well it’s not me calling it UBI because yeah, that’s exactly what I thought. I don’t know why they’re calling it UBI and saying it’s the first of its kind in the nation. Maybe there’s more to it I’m not understanding, which is why I wanted peoples input if they knew more about this bill? My understanding is the money is set aside for funding local UBI pilot programs. That’s what I’m reading on many news sites, but yes, it just sounds like standard welfare.

My main reason for trying to understand what’s going on with this bill, is it’s coming from the ‘liberal shit hole’ California. I can’t understand why they would want to do anything actually good. Or is it presented as good but actually full of jew agenda? Is this an rtr win for families? Or a new jew trick? I guess we don’t know. They sure are trying to make it sound socialist though.

Win for families would be increase in purchase power (due to nature of the current financial system, this always decreases), jobs that get the bills paid, and jobs for everyone.