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Dahaarkan said:
And as for it being "disturbing", it's really not. It's reality. People take advantage of, exploit and abuse each other in every corner of society, it's human nature. One can try to attribute this to Yehuborim but it's always been like that. Yehuborim didn't invent cruelty. Sure they pushed and incentivized it to absolute extremes but it's not like it wasn't always a part of human nature.

And there's no shortage of assholes that shouldn't even be allowed to live let alone have the things they do. They don't deserve what they have.
I agree that many people deserve the absolute worst in this world - and that they do not deserve the good things that they have because they're shit people.

But it's not in "human nature" to be exploited and manipulative... This is done by people who lack empathy. Also, isn't our purpose as humans, to reach the level of the Gods? Do you think the Gods suck each other's energies? If our goal is to reach their level, how are we supposed to do that by manipulating and taking advantage of our own species?

As I said, I agree that many people deserve the worst... but I don't know if being so cunning is for the best... You can extract revenge in other ways.

And what are you going to do when all the shit people are gone from Earth? Because when the Gods come, gradually humanity will return to the Golden Era of the past.
 
Yagami Light said:
Dahaarkan said:
And as for it being "disturbing", it's really not. It's reality. People take advantage of, exploit and abuse each other in every corner of society, it's human nature. One can try to attribute this to Yehuborim but it's always been like that. Yehuborim didn't invent cruelty. Sure they pushed and incentivized it to absolute extremes but it's not like it wasn't always a part of human nature.

And there's no shortage of assholes that shouldn't even be allowed to live let alone have the things they do. They don't deserve what they have.
I agree that many people deserve the absolute worst in this world - and that they do not deserve the good things that they have because they're shit people.

But it's not in "human nature" to be exploited and manipulative... This is done by people who lack empathy. Also, isn't our purpose as humans, to reach the level of the Gods? Do you think the Gods suck each other's energies? If our goal is to reach their level, how are we supposed to do that by manipulating and taking advantage of our own species?

As I said, I agree that many people deserve the worst... but I don't know if being so cunning is for the best... You can extract revenge in other ways.

And what are you going to do when all the shit people are gone from Earth? Because when the Gods come, gradually humanity will return to the Golden Era of the past.
The guy has admitted to leeching energies off his bosses. He is a lost case, let him deal with the karma a couple years from now when he'll be crying about all the shit he put in his soul.
 
Yagami Light said:
I agree that many people deserve the absolute worst in this world - and that they do not deserve the good things that they have because they're shit people.

But it's not in "human nature" to be exploited and manipulative... This is done by people who lack empathy. Also, isn't our purpose as humans, to reach the level of the Gods? Do you think the Gods suck each other's energies? If our goal is to reach their level, how are we supposed to do that by manipulating and taking advantage of our own species?

As I said, I agree that many people deserve the worst... but I don't know if being so cunning is for the best... You can extract revenge in other ways.

And what are you going to do when all the shit people are gone from Earth? Because when the Gods come, gradually humanity will return to the Golden Era of the past.

There's no real solid reasoning for your statement this is why most of it is full of what ifs and speculation of the future to come. Trying to apply the morality of gods to humanity in it's current state is delusional.

The gods don't suck each other's energies because they are gods. They aren't struggling against a financial system designed to exploit them, they aren't concerned with what they have to do to make ends meet, with how to rapidly obtain financial stability, with how to survive in a world ruled by parasites that want to kill them.

It's easy for gods to sneer at human necessity because they do not know it. I have a limited time to achieve financial liberation and transition that into full time spiritual advancement. They have all the time and security in the universe to do so. And as a reminder: you are not a god. So consider this when wanting to apply the morality of gods to yourself.

Psychic vampirism is at it's absolute peak in terms of power and usefulness in this age where no one meditates or protects themselves from psychic parasitism. It's obvious in a society where everyone meditates and is aware of such things that such practices will be largely useless. But you don't live in such so what's your point.


You seem to have the misconception that the practice is a form of addiction or necessity. When it stops being useful I'll stop doing it. But as it is most people have more blessings than they deserve, and I don't have enough.

I know it feels nice to be self-righteous and have a sense of holiness, but frankly I think it feels nicer to have disposable income, stability and security.


As for humanity not being engineered to be manipulated and exploited, well. Considering how easily the Yehuborim subverted the entire world's population, and continue to do so even after undeniable proof of their bullshit has surfaced, one has to wonder if it's really a bug and not a feature.
 
Aquarius post said:
The guy has admitted to leeching energies off his bosses. He is a lost case, let him deal with the karma a couple years from now when he'll be crying about all the shit he put in his soul.

It's always interesting to me discussing this topic because it's pretty funny how people who have never even delved into it presume to tell me that it has this consequence or another. When they know nothing of the topic besides their own speculation and theories.

But sure kiddo, if imagining me crying over something you barely understand makes you feel better, go ahead and dream about it

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the unworthy is those that are only leeches and parasites

((((Then suggests that the solution is to be a parasite))))

We can connect to sources of infinite energy, through the gods and through the sun. We can accomplish anything if we work for it. Which I know from experience because I have built myself to a very successful level.

But instead, the answer is to be a parasite? Humans are not naturally parasitic, so you are suggesting for people to act as subhuman insects. When they don't have to be because we can accomplish whatever we want without that.
 
Stormblood said:
I'm fully aware you have a beef with me, Ol. Don't think it goes unnoticed. From siding with Aldrick when he was doing his character murder, to taking my words about mental control out of context and using them to try and start a fight, to now this. These are just 3 main examples of a bigger pattern. I am aware you lurking in the shadows, waiting to take another jab.

I'll let you know: you are of no concern to me. You can try as hard as you want but you'll never get anything from me, like you won't get anything from other devoted SS who are as transparent as I am. Give up or keep going. It doesn't matter.
I don't have any beef with you. Why would I? Do you hold grudges against people years later all over some small disagreement? Because I don't.

Something like 4 years ago, somebody was saying it's okay to put binding curses on other Satanists. And I angrily disagreed with this. Maybe I am remembering wrong, but I think it was you who was saying that. This is the only example that I can think of about any time I disagreed with you in any big and serious way. And I do not hold any grudge against you for that because I am assuming that you have grown since then. Everybody has said something wrong before.

And about you and Aldrick, I do not care much about either one of you. I used to respect both of you. What I disagreed with was how you would literally follow Aldrick around to every comment he wrote just to say shit trying to start fights with him. Am I remembering this wrong, or was this you? You wouldn't even respond to what he was saying in the comment, you would just bring up completely unrelated shit to yell at him for. So I replied saying something like your behaviour was being pretty ridiculous and I found it pretty disgusting. You were acting like a troll.

All of this was years ago, I don't care about any of it. Anything I said was because I felt at the time that I should say something. And that was the end of it. It never went any further, and I never held any grudge. Actually I just wrote a comment a week or 2 ago saying how much I respect you for your knowledge of how languages work.

But it seems like you are the kind of person to have one small disagreement with somebody, and remember it forever. Hating that person and holding a grudge against them for years later. I am not like this. Seems like such a waste of time and energy to hold a grudge like that over something so small and stupid.
 
Aquarius said:
There's not much to understand. You feel self righteouss in acting like a Yehubor and vampiring off people more financially succesful than yourself, that they are bad people doesn't matter because you're inhaling their karma into your soul. Funny thing is that we literally have the means to absorb sun energy which is the most powerful energy but you think that ripping energy off some rich dude is gonna make you rich. Not sure if stupid or just ignorant. HC has even talked about this, the karma they have, you're gonna own it, have fun in that. Also, this is not a taboo, this is literally a retarded practice, that's why people don't like it and avoid speaking about it.
Now give me a break with this bullshit, you can only convince some new and naive people that your Yehuborim practice is good and right.

I'm not the one who brought it up again months later, the topic has been dead for quite some time. I didn't ask for a therapist or approval either. I've also said more than once that it's not something new people should be trying, but something to consider as a supplement to traditional money workings.

All you've got is presumption and constantly moaning in fear about what "could" happen. It's all that's ever said, really. Vague prophecies and assumptions of things that didn't, and won't happen. And any negativity that comes with it can be washed out and cleaned like anything else. So what's your point?


Instead of sitting in a corner terrified of what "might" happen I'm instead focusing on what is actually happening. I've never had so much money in my life.
 
Meteor said:
If that's not the case for you due to whatever specifics, then you can ignore what people say about it. It's your own responsibility. These warning are given because of the dangers, so if you are able to circumvent those then they're irrelevant to you. I just hope that you don't overestimate yourself and make a mistake, but it's not my place to judge that.

Perhaps in the future I'll have regrets, or perhaps not. There's a reason I don't delve deeper into this topic detailing all my methods and findings, and this is because I do take these warnings seriously despite my stubborn nature. And wouldn't want to encourage others into such pitfalls. So I discuss this only on a superficial level.

I know many are sitting on the edge of their chair waiting for me to drop a post saying how I was wrong and this practice is a very bad idea, but I'm yet to have any real significant negative consequences. And I didn't start a year or two ago, you know. This has been going for some time.


Time will tell, perhaps I'm wrong and will take everything back. Perhaps not.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
But it seems like you are the kind of person to have one small disagreement with somebody, and remember it forever. Hating that person and holding a grudge against them for years later. I am not like this. Seems like such a waste of time and energy to hold a grudge like that over something so small and stupid.

Not really, and this is coming from someone who disagrees with him in virtually every topic we discuss. And have had several heated arguments in the past. And there's no hostility between us unless he masks it so well to a point I can't notice it.
 
jrvan said:

What I'm trying to say is that the gods exist on a totally different level than we do. This is not to say that they have it easier, or harder, because I would not know. But I do know that it is vastly different.

Different environment, different conditions, different necessities. This is not blaming or hating on the gods, but stating facts, you cannot apply their morality to humanity in it's current state.


And thus there are things that perhaps you would do that for them would be unthinkable. But make sense given your circumstances and necessities.
 
Rook said:
Dahaarkan said:
Stormblood said:
Also it's not a crab
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is this you? because i thought you were a lobster for some reason ngl.

So, Ethmostigmus Trigonopodus boy.
centipede boy

Yes, as you can see I must take extreme measures to make money so I can buy hundreds of shoes

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jrvan said:
I see. Kind of like how Nature compels us to eat, and normally people think of cannibalism as unthinkable and unacceptable until they're living under communism for a long time. This is the sort of thing you mean?

A less extreme and perhaps more grounded example is a person eating something from a trash can, but is the same principle. Perhaps it's unthinkable given your current circumstances but if you were starving such things perhaps would make more sense.
 
Dahaarkan said:
Yes, as you can see I must take extreme measures to make money so I can buy hundreds of shoes

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At least you a centipede and not a millipede,
cuz then you'd have to be like Gul'dan.
https://youtu.be/V50GRThg9rg?t=99
 
Stormblood said:
1. I am happy that it was not you on that topic. The topic was such a negative vortex that it was deleted so there is no way to go back and see. But I will trust you completely since I do not strongly remember who it was and it easily could have been somebody else.

2. I never said that you checked anybody's post history. But I do very clearly remember this situation and it was you. Aldrick made a topic for "Zodiac Mantras" or something like that. Many of them were either wrong, useless, or even dangerous. So you correctly disagreed with him about it and told him not to spread dangerous shit. But then nearly every comment that he wrote on any topic for the next couple weeks, you were quoting him just to argue at him, saying he's stupid and bringing up his mistake with the zodiac mantras. Even when his comment you were replying to had nothing to do with that.

I remember very clearly this situation and that it was you. And you remember it too because it's part of the reason that you don't like me and you think I side with Aldrick.

I have made some mistakes like this before and harassed people who didn't deserve it. I regret this, and if I could go back and tell myself not to do it I would. So I'm not pretending to be perfect. I have also been correct most of the times I did this, and correctly called out people who actually were infiltrators and got them to leave. I'm not saying I am perfect, I am only saying that you did go after Aldrick in a way I thought was too much and I did make a reply to you about it, and this is part of what influenced you to think I am against you. But I'm not against you. I agree with most of the things you have ever said. There have been a couple examples of me not agreeing with you, just like there are examples of everybody disagreeing with everyone else.

I got the idea from your reply to me a few days ago that you were basically accusing me of being some infiltrator plotting against you. One of the freaks that Aldrick has been talking to for years. Maybe I got the wrong idea and this is not what you meant, but that was what I felt you were saying. I have seen you accuse other people of colluding like this through emails before, and I know you were right about some of them. But I have never had anything to do with any of this. I have emailed only 3 people before; Cobra, Lydia, and another girl who barely ever makes any posts anymore. And only sent a couple emails with each of them. There has never been any instance of me colluding with anybody, and nothing against you. So I answered to explain every example I could think of of me disagreeing with you to try to figure out what would give you the idea that I am some infiltrator, and to explain that I really can't think of anything serious that would give you that idea. Like I said, I have always respected you and agreed with most of the things you have said. And you thinking of me as being like an infiltrator just because I have disagreed with you only a handful of times in all insignificant little ways, it is plainly ridiculous and childish. Do you want me to follow you around and praise everything you say? I have other things to focus on.


Did you think I was specifically targeting you because I only replied to you and not to Dahaarkan? This is because I respect your judgement much better than his and I expect better from you. I didn't say anything to Dahaarkan only because there is no point saying anything to him. He has talked for years about how he manipulates, and binds, and curses regular innocent people. Like that topic of him being attracted to a guy and putting all kinds of spells and bindings on the guy, psychically draining him. Then when the guy finally became interested in him, Dahaarkan lost all interest in him and cut off all contact. Just move on to the next guy and don't even care what happens to the first. He has been leaching and parasiting off of regular innocent people for years, and for years he has had people disagreeing with him about this. There is no way to change his mind. There is nothing to say to him that has not already been said. This is the only reason I replied to you and not to him, because you are much more rational about this and you are able to discuss it rationally.

If you want me to kiss your ass, I'm not going to. But please stop pretending that there is some kind of conflict between us, because there is not.
I never even knew that you ever thought there was any conflict between us until you brought it up a few days ago, but I guess you have felt that way for a long time. I'm just trying to say there is no reason for this. I live my own life, I have no focus on you.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Did you think I was specifically targeting you because I only replied to you and not to Dahaarkan? This is because I respect your judgement much better than his and I expect better from you. I didn't say anything to Dahaarkan only because there is no point saying anything to him. He has talked for years about how he manipulates, and binds, and curses regular innocent people. Like that topic of him being attracted to a guy and putting all kinds of spells and bindings on the guy, psychically draining him. Then when the guy finally became interested in him, Dahaarkan lost all interest in him and cut off all contact. Just move on to the next guy and don't even care what happens to the first. He has been leaching and parasiting off of regular innocent people for years, and for years he has had people disagreeing with him about this. There is no way to change his mind. There is nothing to say to him that has not already been said. This is the only reason I replied to you and not to him, because you are much more rational about this and you are able to discuss it rationally.

You're making a lot of assumptions here. I fell madly in love with someone and did everything I could to drive this person away from another person he was more interested in. I never harmed or drained this person besides driving a wedge into their relationship because I wanted to be with them. Love happens.

And then well, things didn't go so well some time later. Relationships don't always go well. You're making a lot of assumptions on my personal life which is honestly creepy. If you're referring to a different case I may have spoken about, that damaged said individual, this was several years ago when I had no clue what I was doing.

I've also never done any spiritual harm to anybody who did not deserve it, this is again making wild assumptions. I personally know several people who are very successful and more wealthy than me and I've never drained them simply because they have not built their wealth on the exploitation of others, and don't deserve it.


This post is oddly specific and personal on different aspects and indicative that you've been thinking, or talking about me a lot. I'm flattered, really, but you're dead wrong. It's true I push people to learn and understand distasteful or taboo things like psychic vampirism, manipulation etc, but you're assuming this is with the intent to make people behave like degenerates, and that I behave like such myself.

The more you understand something the better you can protect yourself from it, and even make use of it if a time comes when you need it.


Just because someone owns a gun doesn't mean they will use it to shoot everybody they see. Just like if someone knows how to manipulate or drain people doesn't mean they will do it to everybody they meet. It's been months since I've drained anybody's soul anyway, this adorable intervention is very poorly timed.

And please refrain from making assumptions on my personal life. You're free to fantasize about me and what I do but do keep those thoughts to yourself thanks.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
2. I never said that you checked anybody's post history. But I do very clearly remember this situation and it was you. Aldrick made a topic for "Zodiac Mantras" or something like that. Many of them were either wrong, useless, or even dangerous. So you correctly disagreed with him about it and told him not to spread dangerous shit. But then nearly every comment that he wrote on any topic for the next couple weeks, you were quoting him just to argue at him, saying he's stupid and bringing up his mistake with the zodiac mantras. Even when his comment you were replying to had nothing to do with that.

I remember very clearly this situation and that it was you. And you remember it too because it's part of the reason that you don't like me and you think I side with Aldrick.

If replying to that person who was saying they never did anything and quoting episodes of where they messed up (even with themselves and were also told so by the clergy) at a distance of years (not immediately afterward like you suggest), is following people around, then I guess I was following him around.

Ol argedco luciftias said:
I got the idea from your reply to me a few days ago that you were basically accusing me of being some infiltrator plotting against you. One of the freaks that Aldrick has been talking to for years. Maybe I got the wrong idea and this is not what you meant, but that was what I felt you were saying. I have seen you accuse other people of colluding like this through emails before, and I know you were right about some of them. But I have never had anything to do with any of this. I have emailed only 3 people before; Cobra, Lydia, and another girl who barely ever makes any posts anymore. And only sent a couple emails with each of them. There has never been any instance of me colluding with anybody, and nothing against you. So I answered to explain every example I could think of of me disagreeing with you to try to figure out what would give you the idea that I am some infiltrator, and to explain that I really can't think of anything serious that would give you that idea. Like I said, I have always respected you and agreed with most of the things you have said. And you thinking of me as being like an infiltrator just because I have disagreed with you only a handful of times in all insignificant little ways, it is plainly ridiculous and childish. Do you want me to follow you around and praise everything you say? I have other things to focus on.

Speaking of this, there is someone doing that to you: emailing people, telling them you are part of an enemy group and posting weird stuff on said groups. They emailed me immediately after reading this discussion between us, thinking I would back them up. It seems you graduated to the "defamation behind your back" level. I don't think they should be given any more fuel.

Try to think about this: having a beef with someone specifically is not the same thing as being an infiltrator. I have no reason to believe you're one, so please keep avoiding to give me any reason for suspicion.
 
Stormblood said:
Speaking of this, there is someone doing that to you: emailing people, telling them you are part of an enemy group and posting weird stuff on said groups. They emailed me immediately after reading this discussion between us, thinking I would back them up. It seems you graduated to the "defamation behind your back" level. I don't think they should be given any more fuel.
Who is saying this?
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Stormblood said:
Speaking of this, there is someone doing that to you: emailing people, telling them you are part of an enemy group and posting weird stuff on said groups. They emailed me immediately after reading this discussion between us, thinking I would back them up. It seems you graduated to the "defamation behind your back" level. I don't think they should be given any more fuel.
Who is saying this?

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