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I notice how it's mentioned on the JoS site about Satan and Beelzebub:
"...they both go back to the "beginning of time" here on earth; Enlil and Enki."

Does it mean that Satan and Beelzebub go back to the very beginning of all existence? First there was nothing, then there was Satan and Beelzebub?

That... "Here on Earth", we know them as Enlil and Enki?

Satan being a "creator" God, meaning he was responsible for creating something out of nothing, manifesting all things into existence from the very start? (The Big Bang?)

Hail the Gods of Hell
 
No, High Priestess Maxine meant that statements in purely HUMAN terms.

The beginning of Time = the beginning of humanity.

The Gods are not as old as the universe... though because of their powers, they did witness its birth.

HAIL SATAN!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@... wrote:

I notice how it's mentioned on the JoS site about Satan and Beelzebub:
"...they both go back to the "beginning of time" here on earth; Enlil and Enki."

Does it mean that Satan and Beelzebub go back to the very beginning of all existence? First there was nothing, then there was Satan and Beelzebub?

That... "Here on Earth", we know them as Enlil and Enki?

Satan being a "creator" God, meaning he was responsible for creating something out of nothing, manifesting all things into existence from the very start? (The Big Bang?)

Hail the Gods of Hell
 
No, it talks about the "beginning of time here on earth" i.e. when humanity was first created. On another page it mentions Satan being well over 500,000 years old:

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... liens.html

"Satan is over half a million years old."

There's no such thing as an omni-creator comparable to the fictitious xian god, our Gods are extraterrestrials who only genetically engineered humanity.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@... wrote:

I notice how it's mentioned on the JoS site about Satan and Beelzebub:
"...they both go back to the "beginning of time" here on earth; Enlil and Enki."

Does it mean that Satan and Beelzebub go back to the very beginning of all existence? First there was nothing, then there was Satan and Beelzebub?

That... "Here on Earth", we know them as Enlil and Enki?

Satan being a "creator" God, meaning he was responsible for creating something out of nothing, manifesting all things into existence from the very start? (The Big Bang?)

Hail the Gods of Hell
 
Just adding on that I think the whole big bang theory is bunk. As is the rest of mainstream science.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

No, it talks about the "beginning of time here on earth" i.e. when humanity was first created. On another page it mentions Satan being well over 500,000 years old:

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... liens.html

"Satan is over half a million years old."

There's no such thing as an omni-creator comparable to the fictitious xian god, our Gods are extraterrestrials who only genetically engineered humanity.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote:

I notice how it's mentioned on the JoS site about Satan and Beelzebub:
"...they both go back to the "beginning of time" here on earth; Enlil and Enki."

Does it mean that Satan and Beelzebub go back to the very beginning of all existence? First there was nothing, then there was Satan and Beelzebub?

That... "Here on Earth", we know them as Enlil and Enki?

Satan being a "creator" God, meaning he was responsible for creating something out of nothing, manifesting all things into existence from the very start? (The Big Bang?)

Hail the Gods of Hell
 
Well, my theory is that he might not have taken a "human-like" form until later on. Chaos before Order, and whatnot. That before he was of light, he was of darkness. Being the sort of "True God" he is, it is obvious he has had many different 'forms' in days past.

Remember that they are extra-terrestrials, whose reach/presence goes far beyond that of planet Earth.

So how much can anyone really say? It's difficult for anyone to speak on behalf of them when they are so much older than the rest of the Gods. (Satan/Beelzebub)

Simply put, I remember meditating on a time that long ago and I started to see some visions of how it may have been back then. Clearly very simple, and very powerful days. Creation and formation of the elements, simple thought processes, simple energy workings. Something of that matter.

Being the Creator God, and wielder of the Elixir of Life (Holy Grail), it doesn't make sense that he has been here since the beginning?

Hail the Gods of Hell

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

No, it talks about the "beginning of time here on earth" i.e. when humanity was first created. On another page it mentions Satan being well over 500,000 years old:

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... liens.html

"Satan is over half a million years old."

There's no such thing as an omni-creator comparable to the fictitious xian god, our Gods are extraterrestrials who only genetically engineered humanity.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote:

I notice how it's mentioned on the JoS site about Satan and Beelzebub:
"...they both go back to the "beginning of time" here on earth; Enlil and Enki."

Does it mean that Satan and Beelzebub go back to the very beginning of all existence? First there was nothing, then there was Satan and Beelzebub?

That... "Here on Earth", we know them as Enlil and Enki?

Satan being a "creator" God, meaning he was responsible for creating something out of nothing, manifesting all things into existence from the very start? (The Big Bang?)

Hail the Gods of Hell
 
You ignored my post. Satan being the Creator God only means he created humanity and nothing else. That's it, Satan was BORN like humans do. He has a father and a mother. In fact Satan's race of ET's used to be mortals like us until they found a way to become immortal.

"Well, my theory is that he might not have taken a "human-like" form until later on. Chaos before Order, and whatnot. That before he was of light, he was of darkness. Being the sort of "True God" he is, it is obvious he has had many different 'forms' in days past."

You're talking of the xian definition of god. A God in Satanism doesn't refer to an omniblahblah being, but just a physical ET being who reached immortality. Ask the Gods instead of making up theories based on the xian view.

"and wielder of the Elixir of Life (Holy Grail)"

You know this is an allegory, right???



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@... wrote:

Well, my theory is that he might not have taken a "human-like" form until later on. Chaos before Order, and whatnot. That before he was of light, he was of darkness. Being the sort of "True God" he is, it is obvious he has had many different 'forms' in days past.

Remember that they are extra-terrestrials, whose reach/presence goes far beyond that of planet Earth.

So how much can anyone really say? It's difficult for anyone to speak on behalf of them when they are so much older than the rest of the Gods. (Satan/Beelzebub)

Simply put, I remember meditating on a time that long ago and I started to see some visions of how it may have been back then. Clearly very simple, and very powerful days. Creation and formation of the elements, simple thought processes, simple energy workings. Something of that matter.

Being the Creator God, and wielder of the Elixir of Life (Holy Grail), it doesn't make sense that he has been here since the beginning?

Hail the Gods of Hell

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

No, it talks about the "beginning of time here on earth" i.e. when humanity was first created. On another page it mentions Satan being well over 500,000 years old:

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... liens.html

"Satan is over half a million years old."

There's no such thing as an omni-creator comparable to the fictitious xian god, our Gods are extraterrestrials who only genetically engineered humanity.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote:

I notice how it's mentioned on the JoS site about Satan and Beelzebub:
"...they both go back to the "beginning of time" here on earth; Enlil and Enki."

Does it mean that Satan and Beelzebub go back to the very beginning of all existence? First there was nothing, then there was Satan and Beelzebub?

That... "Here on Earth", we know them as Enlil and Enki?

Satan being a "creator" God, meaning he was responsible for creating something out of nothing, manifesting all things into existence from the very start? (The Big Bang?)

Hail the Gods of Hell
 
Then do please, explain to me who it is that birthed him. Please, I'm oh so dying to know. Where did I even say he was an "Omni" God? What of things such as "Destruction and Creation"? What about when splits are made? What of the times when the work became overbearing and he decided to start ruling with various other Demons/Gods to lighten the load? To run their family business the way they do?

How well do you really even know Satan/Lucifer? In his most prominent form, his esteemed self? How well do you really know someone who is the "Bearer of Light", the "Light Bringer". Whose personal sigil, that only belongs to him, is the Elixir of life?

Maybe I'm just talking to a Jew, is what I'm doing. Since I sincerely doubt you're someone who knows Satan personally enough to answer questions about him so adamantly.

I will give you this much however. I do understand how much, if not everything that is said about him is based off of "human" perspective. So I will leave you with that much. No offense towards you.

Hail the Gods of Hell

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

You ignored my post. Satan being the Creator God only means he created humanity and nothing else. That's it, Satan was BORN like humans do. He has a father and a mother. In fact Satan's race of ET's used to be mortals like us until they found a way to become immortal.

"Well, my theory is that he might not have taken a "human-like" form until later on. Chaos before Order, and whatnot. That before he was of light, he was of darkness. Being the sort of "True God" he is, it is obvious he has had many different 'forms' in days past."

You're talking of the xian definition of god. A God in Satanism doesn't refer to an omniblahblah being, but just a physical ET being who reached immortality. Ask the Gods instead of making up theories based on the xian view.

"and wielder of the Elixir of Life (Holy Grail)"

You know this is an allegory, right???



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote:

Well, my theory is that he might not have taken a "human-like" form until later on. Chaos before Order, and whatnot. That before he was of light, he was of darkness. Being the sort of "True God" he is, it is obvious he has had many different 'forms' in days past.

Remember that they are extra-terrestrials, whose reach/presence goes far beyond that of planet Earth.

So how much can anyone really say? It's difficult for anyone to speak on behalf of them when they are so much older than the rest of the Gods. (Satan/Beelzebub)

Simply put, I remember meditating on a time that long ago and I started to see some visions of how it may have been back then. Clearly very simple, and very powerful days. Creation and formation of the elements, simple thought processes, simple energy workings. Something of that matter.

Being the Creator God, and wielder of the Elixir of Life (Holy Grail), it doesn't make sense that he has been here since the beginning?

Hail the Gods of Hell

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

No, it talks about the "beginning of time here on earth" i.e. when humanity was first created. On another page it mentions Satan being well over 500,000 years old:

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... liens.html

"Satan is over half a million years old."

There's no such thing as an omni-creator comparable to the fictitious xian god, our Gods are extraterrestrials who only genetically engineered humanity.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote:

I notice how it's mentioned on the JoS site about Satan and Beelzebub:
"...they both go back to the "beginning of time" here on earth; Enlil and Enki."

Does it mean that Satan and Beelzebub go back to the very beginning of all existence? First there was nothing, then there was Satan and Beelzebub?

That... "Here on Earth", we know them as Enlil and Enki?

Satan being a "creator" God, meaning he was responsible for creating something out of nothing, manifesting all things into existence from the very start? (The Big Bang?)

Hail the Gods of Hell
 
His father Anu and an unknown mother.

"What of things such as "Destruction and Creation"? What about when splits are made? What of the times when the work became overbearing and he decided to start ruling with various other Demons/Gods to lighten the load? To run their family business the way they do?"

You know these are mostly allegories for the Magnum Opus, right?? Like before, you're taking allegories as literal.

"How well do you really know someone who is the "Bearer of Light", the "Light Bringer"."

This is allegory mostly, obviously. The "light" and the sun and the Sun-Gods in ancient religions, their stories were representing the final step for the Magnum Opus, where one radiates light from his solar chakra.

"Whose personal sigil, that only belongs to him, is the Elixir of life?"

This is an allegory as well. In fact the elixir of life is a stage of working for the Magnum Opus when completed brings you physical immortality. That's what it means, all the sigils are diagrams for steps and workings of Magnum Opus. HP Maxine even explained that before, the grail with the blood symbolizes the "blood" of the chakras. See this page:

http://spiritualwarfare666.webs.com/Satanic_Symbols.htm

"Lucifer has several sigils. All have to do with reaching the godhead. His symbol at left represents the True GRAIL. This is the cup that holds the elixer of life. The Catholic Church STOLE this concept and corrupted it. The Grail is part of the Magnum Opus, the potential of which we have within ourselves. It is not a material object, it is a concept. The "blood of the chakras" is the energy they leak when stimulated. The Grail is depicted as "Royal Blood." this is the 'blood' of the chakras."

See??What do you think the elixir of life is, becuase you asked that in a way you obviously thought it was something else.

Honestly, I'm not sure if you have even read the JoS site where it's been talked or even the posts here, but you're stating things from a xian perspective. Everyone here knows that the stories of our Gods, most of them are allegories relating to the Magnum Opus, they put there because they knew they were gonna lose a battle and the enemy was going to destroy spiritual knowledge and kill his people.

In fact there're very few things about the life of the Gods and the Gods themselves, most of them are allegories. The Gods are not interested in putting things about themselves so much as allegories for the Magnum Opus.

Set and Horus, in reality as ET beings are not enemies, it's just these stories happened to be allegories. The same thing with Ishtar traveling through the 7 gates. It's more than obvious that this symbolizes the 7 chakras.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@... wrote:

Then do please, explain to me who it is that birthed him. Please, I'm oh so dying to know. Where did I even say he was an "Omni" God? What of things such as "Destruction and Creation"? What about when splits are made? What of the times when the work became overbearing and he decided to start ruling with various other Demons/Gods to lighten the load? To run their family business the way they do?

How well do you really even know Satan/Lucifer? In his most prominent form, his esteemed self? How well do you really know someone who is the "Bearer of Light", the "Light Bringer". Whose personal sigil, that only belongs to him, is the Elixir of life?

Maybe I'm just talking to a Jew, is what I'm doing. Since I sincerely doubt you're someone who knows Satan personally enough to answer questions about him so adamantly.

I will give you this much however. I do understand how much, if not everything that is said about him is based off of "human" perspective. So I will leave you with that much. No offense towards you.

Hail the Gods of Hell

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

You ignored my post. Satan being the Creator God only means he created humanity and nothing else. That's it, Satan was BORN like humans do. He has a father and a mother. In fact Satan's race of ET's used to be mortals like us until they found a way to become immortal.

"Well, my theory is that he might not have taken a "human-like" form until later on. Chaos before Order, and whatnot. That before he was of light, he was of darkness. Being the sort of "True God" he is, it is obvious he has had many different 'forms' in days past."

You're talking of the xian definition of god. A God in Satanism doesn't refer to an omniblahblah being, but just a physical ET being who reached immortality. Ask the Gods instead of making up theories based on the xian view.

"and wielder of the Elixir of Life (Holy Grail)"

You know this is an allegory, right???



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote:

Well, my theory is that he might not have taken a "human-like" form until later on. Chaos before Order, and whatnot. That before he was of light, he was of darkness. Being the sort of "True God" he is, it is obvious he has had many different 'forms' in days past.

Remember that they are extra-terrestrials, whose reach/presence goes far beyond that of planet Earth.

So how much can anyone really say? It's difficult for anyone to speak on behalf of them when they are so much older than the rest of the Gods. (Satan/Beelzebub)

Simply put, I remember meditating on a time that long ago and I started to see some visions of how it may have been back then. Clearly very simple, and very powerful days. Creation and formation of the elements, simple thought processes, simple energy workings. Something of that matter.

Being the Creator God, and wielder of the Elixir of Life (Holy Grail), it doesn't make sense that he has been here since the beginning?

Hail the Gods of Hell

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

No, it talks about the "beginning of time here on earth" i.e. when humanity was first created. On another page it mentions Satan being well over 500,000 years old:

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... liens.html

"Satan is over half a million years old."

There's no such thing as an omni-creator comparable to the fictitious xian god, our Gods are extraterrestrials who only genetically engineered humanity.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote:

I notice how it's mentioned on the JoS site about Satan and Beelzebub:
"...they both go back to the "beginning of time" here on earth; Enlil and Enki."

Does it mean that Satan and Beelzebub go back to the very beginning of all existence? First there was nothing, then there was Satan and Beelzebub?

That... "Here on Earth", we know them as Enlil and Enki?

Satan being a "creator" God, meaning he was responsible for creating something out of nothing, manifesting all things into existence from the very start? (The Big Bang?)

Hail the Gods of Hell
 
" I do understand how much, if not everything that is said about him is based off of "human" perspective."

No, actually most of what you say is based on the xian/RHP perspective and you can't really grasp that the Gods have nothing to do with xianity, you seem to want to follow xianity with different gods but believe the same things i.e. that they created everything. You always try to fit the Gods, who are real ET beings and not random forces into a xian view. The xian view is a LIE and a corruption. There's no such evidence for an omni-creator. No evidence at all, since no BEING created everything. The universe created itself and that's it. There's also no evidence that there's an omni-being that existed for ever and wants the good of all beings concerned.

Also, you know that Satan/Enki and the Gods are Nordic Aliens, right???And that their race evolved from animals and lesser species much like everything does??This is a fact obviously.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

His father Anu and an unknown mother.

"What of things such as "Destruction and Creation"? What about when splits are made? What of the times when the work became overbearing and he decided to start ruling with various other Demons/Gods to lighten the load? To run their family business the way they do?"

You know these are mostly allegories for the Magnum Opus, right?? Like before, you're taking allegories as literal.

"How well do you really know someone who is the "Bearer of Light", the "Light Bringer"."

This is allegory mostly, obviously. The "light" and the sun and the Sun-Gods in ancient religions, their stories were representing the final step for the Magnum Opus, where one radiates light from his solar chakra.

"Whose personal sigil, that only belongs to him, is the Elixir of life?"

This is an allegory as well. In fact the elixir of life is a stage of working for the Magnum Opus when completed brings you physical immortality. That's what it means, all the sigils are diagrams for steps and workings of Magnum Opus. HP Maxine even explained that before, the grail with the blood symbolizes the "blood" of the chakras. See this page:

http://spiritualwarfare666.webs.com/Satanic_Symbols.htm

"Lucifer has several sigils. All have to do with reaching the godhead. His symbol at left represents the True GRAIL. This is the cup that holds the elixer of life. The Catholic Church STOLE this concept and corrupted it. The Grail is part of the Magnum Opus, the potential of which we have within ourselves. It is not a material object, it is a concept. The "blood of the chakras" is the energy they leak when stimulated. The Grail is depicted as "Royal Blood." this is the 'blood' of the chakras."

See??What do you think the elixir of life is, becuase you asked that in a way you obviously thought it was something else.

Honestly, I'm not sure if you have even read the JoS site where it's been talked or even the posts here, but you're stating things from a xian perspective. Everyone here knows that the stories of our Gods, most of them are allegories relating to the Magnum Opus, they put there because they knew they were gonna lose a battle and the enemy was going to destroy spiritual knowledge and kill his people.

In fact there're very few things about the life of the Gods and the Gods themselves, most of them are allegories. The Gods are not interested in putting things about themselves so much as allegories for the Magnum Opus.

Set and Horus, in reality as ET beings are not enemies, it's just these stories happened to be allegories. The same thing with Ishtar traveling through the 7 gates. It's more than obvious that this symbolizes the 7 chakras.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote:

Then do please, explain to me who it is that birthed him. Please, I'm oh so dying to know. Where did I even say he was an "Omni" God? What of things such as "Destruction and Creation"? What about when splits are made? What of the times when the work became overbearing and he decided to start ruling with various other Demons/Gods to lighten the load? To run their family business the way they do?

How well do you really even know Satan/Lucifer? In his most prominent form, his esteemed self? How well do you really know someone who is the "Bearer of Light", the "Light Bringer". Whose personal sigil, that only belongs to him, is the Elixir of life?

Maybe I'm just talking to a Jew, is what I'm doing. Since I sincerely doubt you're someone who knows Satan personally enough to answer questions about him so adamantly.

I will give you this much however. I do understand how much, if not everything that is said about him is based off of "human" perspective. So I will leave you with that much. No offense towards you.

Hail the Gods of Hell

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

You ignored my post. Satan being the Creator God only means he created humanity and nothing else. That's it, Satan was BORN like humans do. He has a father and a mother. In fact Satan's race of ET's used to be mortals like us until they found a way to become immortal.

"Well, my theory is that he might not have taken a "human-like" form until later on. Chaos before Order, and whatnot. That before he was of light, he was of darkness. Being the sort of "True God" he is, it is obvious he has had many different 'forms' in days past."

You're talking of the xian definition of god. A God in Satanism doesn't refer to an omniblahblah being, but just a physical ET being who reached immortality. Ask the Gods instead of making up theories based on the xian view.

"and wielder of the Elixir of Life (Holy Grail)"

You know this is an allegory, right???



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote:

Well, my theory is that he might not have taken a "human-like" form until later on. Chaos before Order, and whatnot. That before he was of light, he was of darkness. Being the sort of "True God" he is, it is obvious he has had many different 'forms' in days past.

Remember that they are extra-terrestrials, whose reach/presence goes far beyond that of planet Earth.

So how much can anyone really say? It's difficult for anyone to speak on behalf of them when they are so much older than the rest of the Gods. (Satan/Beelzebub)

Simply put, I remember meditating on a time that long ago and I started to see some visions of how it may have been back then. Clearly very simple, and very powerful days. Creation and formation of the elements, simple thought processes, simple energy workings. Something of that matter.

Being the Creator God, and wielder of the Elixir of Life (Holy Grail), it doesn't make sense that he has been here since the beginning?

Hail the Gods of Hell

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

No, it talks about the "beginning of time here on earth" i.e. when humanity was first created. On another page it mentions Satan being well over 500,000 years old:

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... liens.html

"Satan is over half a million years old."

There's no such thing as an omni-creator comparable to the fictitious xian god, our Gods are extraterrestrials who only genetically engineered humanity.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote:

I notice how it's mentioned on the JoS site about Satan and Beelzebub:
"...they both go back to the "beginning of time" here on earth; Enlil and Enki."

Does it mean that Satan and Beelzebub go back to the very beginning of all existence? First there was nothing, then there was Satan and Beelzebub?

That... "Here on Earth", we know them as Enlil and Enki?

Satan being a "creator" God, meaning he was responsible for creating something out of nothing, manifesting all things into existence from the very start? (The Big Bang?)

Hail the Gods of Hell
 
The disrespectful nonsense you're saying about Satan taking a human form... You know that Satan CREATED us IN HIS OWN IMAGE AND LIKENESS, RIGHT?? We're actually the ones who look like him since we are genetically engineered by the Daemons and not the other way round.

As I said many times, you use the xian definition of a God. In Satanism, a God is simply a living being who has reached physical immortality and spiritual perfection. That's it. The entire purpose here is for humans to become Gods as well, that's what Spiritual Satanism is about, reaching physical immortality and spiritual perfection. Not to try to fawn upon and make baseless theories about real extraterrestrial beings and try to xianize them.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

" I do understand how much, if not everything that is said about him is based off of "human" perspective."

No, actually most of what you say is based on the xian/RHP perspective and you can't really grasp that the Gods have nothing to do with xianity, you seem to want to follow xianity with different gods but believe the same things i.e. that they created everything. You always try to fit the Gods, who are real ET beings and not random forces into a xian view. The xian view is a LIE and a corruption. There's no such evidence for an omni-creator. No evidence at all, since no BEING created everything. The universe created itself and that's it. There's also no evidence that there's an omni-being that existed for ever and wants the good of all beings concerned.

Also, you know that Satan/Enki and the Gods are Nordic Aliens, right???And that their race evolved from animals and lesser species much like everything does??This is a fact obviously.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

His father Anu and an unknown mother.

"What of things such as "Destruction and Creation"? What about when splits are made? What of the times when the work became overbearing and he decided to start ruling with various other Demons/Gods to lighten the load? To run their family business the way they do?"

You know these are mostly allegories for the Magnum Opus, right?? Like before, you're taking allegories as literal.

"How well do you really know someone who is the "Bearer of Light", the "Light Bringer"."

This is allegory mostly, obviously. The "light" and the sun and the Sun-Gods in ancient religions, their stories were representing the final step for the Magnum Opus, where one radiates light from his solar chakra.

"Whose personal sigil, that only belongs to him, is the Elixir of life?"

This is an allegory as well. In fact the elixir of life is a stage of working for the Magnum Opus when completed brings you physical immortality. That's what it means, all the sigils are diagrams for steps and workings of Magnum Opus. HP Maxine even explained that before, the grail with the blood symbolizes the "blood" of the chakras. See this page:

http://spiritualwarfare666.webs.com/Satanic_Symbols.htm

"Lucifer has several sigils. All have to do with reaching the godhead. His symbol at left represents the True GRAIL. This is the cup that holds the elixer of life. The Catholic Church STOLE this concept and corrupted it. The Grail is part of the Magnum Opus, the potential of which we have within ourselves. It is not a material object, it is a concept. The "blood of the chakras" is the energy they leak when stimulated. The Grail is depicted as "Royal Blood." this is the 'blood' of the chakras."

See??What do you think the elixir of life is, becuase you asked that in a way you obviously thought it was something else.

Honestly, I'm not sure if you have even read the JoS site where it's been talked or even the posts here, but you're stating things from a xian perspective. Everyone here knows that the stories of our Gods, most of them are allegories relating to the Magnum Opus, they put there because they knew they were gonna lose a battle and the enemy was going to destroy spiritual knowledge and kill his people.

In fact there're very few things about the life of the Gods and the Gods themselves, most of them are allegories. The Gods are not interested in putting things about themselves so much as allegories for the Magnum Opus.

Set and Horus, in reality as ET beings are not enemies, it's just these stories happened to be allegories. The same thing with Ishtar traveling through the 7 gates. It's more than obvious that this symbolizes the 7 chakras.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote:

Then do please, explain to me who it is that birthed him. Please, I'm oh so dying to know. Where did I even say he was an "Omni" God? What of things such as "Destruction and Creation"? What about when splits are made? What of the times when the work became overbearing and he decided to start ruling with various other Demons/Gods to lighten the load? To run their family business the way they do?

How well do you really even know Satan/Lucifer? In his most prominent form, his esteemed self? How well do you really know someone who is the "Bearer of Light", the "Light Bringer". Whose personal sigil, that only belongs to him, is the Elixir of life?

Maybe I'm just talking to a Jew, is what I'm doing. Since I sincerely doubt you're someone who knows Satan personally enough to answer questions about him so adamantly.

I will give you this much however. I do understand how much, if not everything that is said about him is based off of "human" perspective. So I will leave you with that much. No offense towards you.

Hail the Gods of Hell

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

You ignored my post. Satan being the Creator God only means he created humanity and nothing else. That's it, Satan was BORN like humans do. He has a father and a mother. In fact Satan's race of ET's used to be mortals like us until they found a way to become immortal.

"Well, my theory is that he might not have taken a "human-like" form until later on. Chaos before Order, and whatnot. That before he was of light, he was of darkness. Being the sort of "True God" he is, it is obvious he has had many different 'forms' in days past."

You're talking of the xian definition of god. A God in Satanism doesn't refer to an omniblahblah being, but just a physical ET being who reached immortality. Ask the Gods instead of making up theories based on the xian view.

"and wielder of the Elixir of Life (Holy Grail)"

You know this is an allegory, right???



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote:

Well, my theory is that he might not have taken a "human-like" form until later on. Chaos before Order, and whatnot. That before he was of light, he was of darkness. Being the sort of "True God" he is, it is obvious he has had many different 'forms' in days past.

Remember that they are extra-terrestrials, whose reach/presence goes far beyond that of planet Earth.

So how much can anyone really say? It's difficult for anyone to speak on behalf of them when they are so much older than the rest of the Gods. (Satan/Beelzebub)

Simply put, I remember meditating on a time that long ago and I started to see some visions of how it may have been back then. Clearly very simple, and very powerful days. Creation and formation of the elements, simple thought processes, simple energy workings. Something of that matter.

Being the Creator God, and wielder of the Elixir of Life (Holy Grail), it doesn't make sense that he has been here since the beginning?

Hail the Gods of Hell

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

No, it talks about the "beginning of time here on earth" i.e. when humanity was first created. On another page it mentions Satan being well over 500,000 years old:

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... liens.html

"Satan is over half a million years old."

There's no such thing as an omni-creator comparable to the fictitious xian god, our Gods are extraterrestrials who only genetically engineered humanity.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote:

I notice how it's mentioned on the JoS site about Satan and Beelzebub:
"...they both go back to the "beginning of time" here on earth; Enlil and Enki."

Does it mean that Satan and Beelzebub go back to the very beginning of all existence? First there was nothing, then there was Satan and Beelzebub?

That... "Here on Earth", we know them as Enlil and Enki?

Satan being a "creator" God, meaning he was responsible for creating something out of nothing, manifesting all things into existence from the very start? (The Big Bang?)

Hail the Gods of Hell
 
"The beginning of time here on earth." Is reference to the start of humanity and human civilization. Only. Hence: "Here on earth." I also doubt earth has been around since the beginning of time. And then time is relative to specific density fields. And in some places time might not exist.  Its not a one shoe deal. Infact it could be the universe has no beginning.  Anyway the ancient texts in the East where a lot of information remained. State that their is monotheistic creator of the universe. Their is just the Brahmanada the universe that is still manifested out of the ether. As I wrote in the article on Brahman, Aryan and Nirvana. The concept of monothiesm is corrupted from the symbolism of the Magnum Opus. Previous to the rise of the enemy programs. Everyone understand the symbolic mythos as that.
From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 5:13:55 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Beginning of Time?
  The disrespectful nonsense you're saying about Satan taking a human form... You know that Satan CREATED us IN HIS OWN IMAGE AND LIKENESS, RIGHT?? We're actually the ones who look like him since we are genetically engineered by the Daemons and not the other way round.

As I said many times, you use the xian definition of a God. In Satanism, a God is simply a living being who has reached physical immortality and spiritual perfection. That's it. The entire purpose here is for humans to become Gods as well, that's what Spiritual Satanism is about, reaching physical immortality and spiritual perfection. Not to try to fawn upon and make baseless theories about real extraterrestrial beings and try to xianize them.

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

" I do understand how much, if not everything that is said about him is based off of "human" perspective."

No, actually most of what you say is based on the xian/RHP perspective and you can't really grasp that the Gods have nothing to do with xianity, you seem to want to follow xianity with different gods but believe the same things i.e. that they created everything. You always try to fit the Gods, who are real ET beings and not random forces into a xian view. The xian view is a LIE and a corruption. There's no such evidence for an omni-creator. No evidence at all, since no BEING created everything. The universe created itself and that's it. There's also no evidence that there's an omni-being that existed for ever and wants the good of all beings concerned.

Also, you know that Satan/Enki and the Gods are Nordic Aliens, right???And that their race evolved from animals and lesser species much like everything does??This is a fact obviously.



--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

His father Anu and an unknown mother.

"What of things such as "Destruction and Creation"? What about when splits are made? What of the times when the work became overbearing and he decided to start ruling with various other Demons/Gods to lighten the load? To run their family business the way they do?"

You know these are mostly allegories for the Magnum Opus, right?? Like before, you're taking allegories as literal.

"How well do you really know someone who is the "Bearer of Light", the "Light Bringer"."

This is allegory mostly, obviously. The "light" and the sun and the Sun-Gods in ancient religions, their stories were representing the final step for the Magnum Opus, where one radiates light from his solar chakra.

"Whose personal sigil, that only belongs to him, is the Elixir of life?"

This is an allegory as well. In fact the elixir of life is a stage of working for the Magnum Opus when completed brings you physical immortality. That's what it means, all the sigils are diagrams for steps and workings of Magnum Opus. HP Maxine even explained that before, the grail with the blood symbolizes the "blood" of the chakras. See this page:

http://spiritualwarfare666.webs.com/Satanic_Symbols.htm

"Lucifer has several sigils. All have to do with reaching the godhead. His symbol at left represents the True GRAIL. This is the cup that holds the elixer of life. The Catholic Church STOLE this concept and corrupted it. The Grail is part of the Magnum Opus, the potential of which we have within ourselves. It is not a material object, it is a concept. The "blood of the chakras" is the energy they leak when stimulated. The Grail is depicted as "Royal Blood." this is the 'blood' of the chakras."

See??What do you think the elixir of life is, becuase you asked that in a way you obviously thought it was something else.

Honestly, I'm not sure if you have even read the JoS site where it's been talked or even the posts here, but you're stating things from a xian perspective. Everyone here knows that the stories of our Gods, most of them are allegories relating to the Magnum Opus, they put there because they knew they were gonna lose a battle and the enemy was going to destroy spiritual knowledge and kill his people.

In fact there're very few things about the life of the Gods and the Gods themselves, most of them are allegories. The Gods are not interested in putting things about themselves so much as allegories for the Magnum Opus.

Set and Horus, in reality as ET beings are not enemies, it's just these stories happened to be allegories. The same thing with Ishtar traveling through the 7 gates. It's more than obvious that this symbolizes the 7 chakras.


--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote:

Then do please, explain to me who it is that birthed him. Please, I'm oh so dying to know. Where did I even say he was an "Omni" God? What of things such as "Destruction and Creation"? What about when splits are made? What of the times when the work became overbearing and he decided to start ruling with various other Demons/Gods to lighten the load? To run their family business the way they do?

How well do you really even know Satan/Lucifer? In his most prominent form, his esteemed self? How well do you really know someone who is the "Bearer of Light", the "Light Bringer". Whose personal sigil, that only belongs to him, is the Elixir of life?

Maybe I'm just talking to a Jew, is what I'm doing. Since I sincerely doubt you're someone who knows Satan personally enough to answer questions about him so adamantly.

I will give you this much however. I do understand how much, if not everything that is said about him is based off of "human" perspective. So I will leave you with that much. No offense towards you.

Hail the Gods of Hell

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

You ignored my post. Satan being the Creator God only means he created humanity and nothing else. That's it, Satan was BORN like humans do. He has a father and a mother. In fact Satan's race of ET's used to be mortals like us until they found a way to become immortal.

"Well, my theory is that he might not have taken a "human-like" form until later on. Chaos before Order, and whatnot. That before he was of light, he was of darkness. Being the sort of "True God" he is, it is obvious he has had many different 'forms' in days past."

You're talking of the xian definition of god. A God in Satanism doesn't refer to an omniblahblah being, but just a physical ET being who reached immortality. Ask the Gods instead of making up theories based on the xian view.

"and wielder of the Elixir of Life (Holy Grail)"

You know this is an allegory, right???



--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote:

Well, my theory is that he might not have taken a "human-like" form until later on. Chaos before Order, and whatnot. That before he was of light, he was of darkness. Being the sort of "True God" he is, it is obvious he has had many different 'forms' in days past.

Remember that they are extra-terrestrials, whose reach/presence goes far beyond that of planet Earth.

So how much can anyone really say? It's difficult for anyone to speak on behalf of them when they are so much older than the rest of the Gods. (Satan/Beelzebub)

Simply put, I remember meditating on a time that long ago and I started to see some visions of how it may have been back then. Clearly very simple, and very powerful days. Creation and formation of the elements, simple thought processes, simple energy workings. Something of that matter.

Being the Creator God, and wielder of the Elixir of Life (Holy Grail), it doesn't make sense that he has been here since the beginning?

Hail the Gods of Hell

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

No, it talks about the "beginning of time here on earth" i.e. when humanity was first created. On another page it mentions Satan being well over 500,000 years old:

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... liens.html

"Satan is over half a million years old."

There's no such thing as an omni-creator comparable to the fictitious xian god, our Gods are extraterrestrials who only genetically engineered humanity.

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote:

I notice how it's mentioned on the JoS site about Satan and Beelzebub:
"...they both go back to the "beginning of time" here on earth; Enlil and Enki."

Does it mean that Satan and Beelzebub go back to the very beginning of all existence? First there was nothing, then there was Satan and Beelzebub?

That... "Here on Earth", we know them as Enlil and Enki?

Satan being a "creator" God, meaning he was responsible for creating something out of nothing, manifesting all things into existence from the very start? (The Big Bang?)

Hail the Gods of Hell
 
*state there is no monotheistic creator of the universe. This life force is also called the Brahman.
From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 5:27:29 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Beginning of Time?
  "The beginning of time here on earth." Is reference to the start of humanity and human civilization. Only. Hence: "Here on earth." I also doubt earth has been around since the beginning of time. And then time is relative to specific density fields. And in some places time might not exist.  Its not a one shoe deal. Infact it could be the universe has no beginning.  Anyway the ancient texts in the East where a lot of information remained. State that their is monotheistic creator of the universe. Their is just the Brahmanada the universe that is still manifested out of the ether. As I wrote in the article on Brahman, Aryan and Nirvana. The concept of monothiesm is corrupted from the symbolism of the Magnum Opus. Previous to the rise of the enemy programs. Everyone understand the symbolic mythos as that.
From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 5:13:55 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Beginning of Time?
  The disrespectful nonsense you're saying about Satan taking a human form... You know that Satan CREATED us IN HIS OWN IMAGE AND LIKENESS, RIGHT?? We're actually the ones who look like him since we are genetically engineered by the Daemons and not the other way round. As I said many times, you use the xian definition of a God. In Satanism, a God is simply a living being who has reached physical immortality and spiritual perfection. That's it. The entire purpose here is for humans to become Gods as well, that's what Spiritual Satanism is about, reaching physical immortality and spiritual perfection. Not to try to fawn upon and make baseless theories about real extraterrestrial beings and try to xianize them.
--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote: " I do understand how much, if not everything that is said about him is based off of "human" perspective." No, actually most of what you say is based on the xian/RHP perspective and you can't really grasp that the Gods have nothing to do with xianity, you seem to want to follow xianity with different gods but believe the same things i.e. that they created everything. You always try to fit the Gods, who are real ET beings and not random forces into a xian view. The xian view is a LIE and a corruption. There's no such evidence for an omni-creator. No evidence at all, since no BEING created everything. The universe created itself and that's it. There's also no evidence that there's an omni-being that existed for ever and wants the good of all beings concerned. Also, you know that Satan/Enki and the Gods are Nordic Aliens, right???And that their race evolved from animals and lesser species much like everything does??This is a fact obviously. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote: His father Anu and an unknown mother. "What of things such as "Destruction and Creation"? What about when splits are made? What of the times when the work became overbearing and he decided to start ruling with various other Demons/Gods to lighten the load? To run their family business the way they do?" You know these are mostly allegories for the Magnum Opus, right?? Like before, you're taking allegories as literal. "How well do you really know someone who is the "Bearer of Light", the "Light Bringer"." This is allegory mostly, obviously. The "light" and the sun and the Sun-Gods in ancient religions, their stories were representing the final step for the Magnum Opus, where one radiates light from his solar chakra. "Whose personal sigil, that only belongs to him, is the Elixir of life?" This is an allegory as well. In fact the elixir of life is a stage of working for the Magnum Opus when completed brings you physical immortality. That's what it means, all the sigils are diagrams for steps and workings of Magnum Opus. HP Maxine even explained that before, the grail with the blood symbolizes the "blood" of the chakras. See this page: http://spiritualwarfare666.webs.com/Satanic_Symbols.htm "Lucifer has several sigils. All have to do with reaching the godhead. His symbol at left represents the True GRAIL. This is the cup that holds the elixer of life. The Catholic Church STOLE this concept and corrupted it. The Grail is part of the Magnum Opus, the potential of which we have within ourselves. It is not a material object, it is a concept. The "blood of the chakras" is the energy they leak when stimulated. The Grail is depicted as "Royal Blood." this is the 'blood' of the chakras." See??What do you think the elixir of life is, becuase you asked that in a way you obviously thought it was something else. Honestly, I'm not sure if you have even read the JoS site where it's been talked or even the posts here, but you're stating things from a xian perspective. Everyone here knows that the stories of our Gods, most of them are allegories relating to the Magnum Opus, they put there because they knew they were gonna lose a battle and the enemy was going to destroy spiritual knowledge and kill his people. In fact there're very few things about the life of the Gods and the Gods themselves, most of them are allegories. The Gods are not interested in putting things about themselves so much as allegories for the Magnum Opus. Set and Horus, in reality as ET beings are not enemies, it's just these stories happened to be allegories. The same thing with Ishtar traveling through the 7 gates. It's more than obvious that this symbolizes the 7 chakras. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote: Then do please, explain to me who it is that birthed him. Please, I'm oh so dying to know. Where did I even say he was an "Omni" God? What of things such as "Destruction and Creation"? What about when splits are made? What of the times when the work became overbearing and he decided to start ruling with various other Demons/Gods to lighten the load? To run their family business the way they do? How well do you really even know Satan/Lucifer? In his most prominent form, his esteemed self? How well do you really know someone who is the "Bearer of Light", the "Light Bringer". Whose personal sigil, that only belongs to him, is the Elixir of life? Maybe I'm just talking to a Jew, is what I'm doing. Since I sincerely doubt you're someone who knows Satan personally enough to answer questions about him so adamantly. I will give you this much however. I do understand how much, if not everything that is said about him is based off of "human" perspective. So I will leave you with that much. No offense towards you. Hail the Gods of Hell --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote: You ignored my post. Satan being the Creator God only means he created humanity and nothing else. That's it, Satan was BORN like humans do. He has a father and a mother. In fact Satan's race of ET's used to be mortals like us until they found a way to become immortal. "Well, my theory is that he might not have taken a "human-like" form until later on. Chaos before Order, and whatnot. That before he was of light, he was of darkness. Being the sort of "True God" he is, it is obvious he has had many different 'forms' in days past." You're talking of the xian definition of god. A God in Satanism doesn't refer to an omniblahblah being, but just a physical ET being who reached immortality. Ask the Gods instead of making up theories based on the xian view. "and wielder of the Elixir of Life (Holy Grail)" You know this is an allegory, right??? --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote: Well, my theory is that he might not have taken a "human-like" form until later on. Chaos before Order, and whatnot. That before he was of light, he was of darkness. Being the sort of "True God" he is, it is obvious he has had many different 'forms' in days past. Remember that they are extra-terrestrials, whose reach/presence goes far beyond that of planet Earth. So how much can anyone really say? It's difficult for anyone to speak on behalf of them when they are so much older than the rest of the Gods. (Satan/Beelzebub) Simply put, I remember meditating on a time that long ago and I started to see some visions of how it may have been back then. Clearly very simple, and very powerful days. Creation and formation of the elements, simple thought processes, simple energy workings. Something of that matter. Being the Creator God, and wielder of the Elixir of Life (Holy Grail), it doesn't make sense that he has been here since the beginning? Hail the Gods of Hell --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote: No, it talks about the "beginning of time here on earth" i.e. when humanity was first created. On another page it mentions Satan being well over 500,000 years old: http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... liens.html "Satan is over half a million years old." There's no such thing as an omni-creator comparable to the fictitious xian god, our Gods are extraterrestrials who only genetically engineered humanity. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote: I notice how it's mentioned on the JoS site about Satan and Beelzebub: "...they both go back to the "beginning of time" here on earth; Enlil and Enki." Does it mean that Satan and Beelzebub go back to the very beginning of all existence? First there was nothing, then there was Satan and Beelzebub? That... "Here on Earth", we know them as Enlil and Enki? Satan being a "creator" God, meaning he was responsible for creating something out of nothing, manifesting all things into existence from the very start? (The Big Bang?) Hail the Gods of Hell
 
because we talk to him and he says so. have you not talked to satan yet?
From: sammydavis.1666 <sammydavis.1666@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 6:46 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Beginning of Time?

  Then do please, explain to me who it is that birthed him. Please, I'm oh so dying to know. Where did I even say he was an "Omni" God? What of things such as "Destruction and Creation"? What about when splits are made? What of the times when the work became overbearing and he decided to start ruling with various other Demons/Gods to lighten the load? To run their family business the way they do?

How well do you really even know Satan/Lucifer? In his most prominent form, his esteemed self? How well do you really know someone who is the "Bearer of Light", the "Light Bringer". Whose personal sigil, that only belongs to him, is the Elixir of life?

Maybe I'm just talking to a Jew, is what I'm doing. Since I sincerely doubt you're someone who knows Satan personally enough to answer questions about him so adamantly.

I will give you this much however. I do understand how much, if not everything that is said about him is based off of "human" perspective. So I will leave you with that much. No offense towards you.

Hail the Gods of Hell

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

You ignored my post. Satan being the Creator God only means he created humanity and nothing else. That's it, Satan was BORN like humans do. He has a father and a mother. In fact Satan's race of ET's used to be mortals like us until they found a way to become immortal.

"Well, my theory is that he might not have taken a "human-like" form until later on. Chaos before Order, and whatnot. That before he was of light, he was of darkness. Being the sort of "True God" he is, it is obvious he has had many different 'forms' in days past."

You're talking of the xian definition of god. A God in Satanism doesn't refer to an omniblahblah being, but just a physical ET being who reached immortality. Ask the Gods instead of making up theories based on the xian view.

"and wielder of the Elixir of Life (Holy Grail)"

You know this is an allegory, right???



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote:

Well, my theory is that he might not have taken a "human-like" form until later on. Chaos before Order, and whatnot. That before he was of light, he was of darkness. Being the sort of "True God" he is, it is obvious he has had many different 'forms' in days past.

Remember that they are extra-terrestrials, whose reach/presence goes far beyond that of planet Earth.

So how much can anyone really say? It's difficult for anyone to speak on behalf of them when they are so much older than the rest of the Gods. (Satan/Beelzebub)

Simply put, I remember meditating on a time that long ago and I started to see some visions of how it may have been back then. Clearly very simple, and very powerful days. Creation and formation of the elements, simple thought processes, simple energy workings. Something of that matter.

Being the Creator God, and wielder of the Elixir of Life (Holy Grail), it doesn't make sense that he has been here since the beginning?

Hail the Gods of Hell

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

No, it talks about the "beginning of time here on earth" i.e. when humanity was first created. On another page it mentions Satan being well over 500,000 years old:

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... liens.html

"Satan is over half a million years old."

There's no such thing as an omni-creator comparable to the fictitious xian god, our Gods are extraterrestrials who only genetically engineered humanity.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote:

I notice how it's mentioned on the JoS site about Satan and Beelzebub:
"...they both go back to the "beginning of time" here on earth; Enlil and Enki."

Does it mean that Satan and Beelzebub go back to the very beginning of all existence? First there was nothing, then there was Satan and Beelzebub?

That... "Here on Earth", we know them as Enlil and Enki?

Satan being a "creator" God, meaning he was responsible for creating something out of nothing, manifesting all things into existence from the very start? (The Big Bang?)

Hail the Gods of Hell

 
I didn't want it to come off as monotheistic. I know full well of the other Gods, I simply mention how Satan is described as the one "True" God.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Don Danko <mageson6666@... wrote:

*state there is no monotheistic creator of the universe.
 
This life force is also called the Brahman.


________________________________
From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 5:27:29 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Beginning of Time?


 

"The beginning of time here on earth." Is reference to the start of humanity and human civilization. Only. Hence: "Here on earth." I also doubt earth has been around since the beginning of time. And then time is relative to specific density fields. And in some places time might not exist.  Its not a one shoe deal. Infact it could be the universe has no beginning.
 
 
Anyway the ancient texts in the East where a lot of information remained. State that their is monotheistic creator of the universe. Their is just the Brahmanada the universe that is still manifested out of the ether.
 
As I wrote in the article on Brahman, Aryan and Nirvana. The concept of monothiesm is corrupted from the symbolism of the Magnum Opus. Previous to the rise of the enemy programs. Everyone understand the symbolic mythos as that.


________________________________
From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 5:13:55 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Beginning of Time?

 
The disrespectful nonsense you're saying about Satan taking a human form... You know that Satan CREATED us IN HIS OWN IMAGE AND LIKENESS, RIGHT?? We're actually the ones who look like him since we are genetically engineered by the Daemons and not the other way round. As I said many times, you use the xian definition of a God. In Satanism, a God is simply a living being who has reached physical immortality and spiritual perfection. That's it. The entire purpose here is for humans to become Gods as well, that's what Spiritual Satanism is about, reaching physical immortality and spiritual perfection. Not to try to fawn upon and make baseless theories about real extraterrestrial beings and try to xianize them. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote: " I do understand how much, if not everything that is said about him is based off of "human" perspective." No, actually most of what you
say is based on the xian/RHP perspective and you can't really grasp that the Gods have nothing to do with xianity, you seem to want to follow xianity with different gods but believe the same things i.e. that they created everything. You always try to fit the Gods, who are real ET beings and not random forces into a xian view. The xian view is a LIE and a corruption. There's no such evidence for an omni-creator. No evidence at all, since no BEING created everything. The universe created itself and that's it. There's also no evidence that there's an omni-being that existed for ever and wants the good of all beings concerned. Also, you know that Satan/Enki and the Gods are Nordic Aliens, right???And that their race evolved from animals and lesser species much like everything does??This is a fact obviously. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote: His father Anu and an unknown
mother. "What of things such as "Destruction and Creation"? What about when splits are made? What of the times when the work became overbearing and he decided to start ruling with various other Demons/Gods to lighten the load? To run their family business the way they do?" You know these are mostly allegories for the Magnum Opus, right?? Like before, you're taking allegories as literal. "How well do you really know someone who is the "Bearer of Light", the "Light Bringer"." This is allegory mostly, obviously. The "light" and the sun and the Sun-Gods in ancient religions, their stories were representing the final step for the Magnum Opus, where one radiates light from his solar chakra. "Whose personal sigil, that only belongs to him, is the Elixir of life?" This is an allegory as well. In fact the elixir of life is a stage of working for the Magnum Opus when completed brings you physical immortality.
That's what it means, all the sigils are diagrams for steps and workings of Magnum Opus. HP Maxine even explained that before, the grail with the blood symbolizes the "blood" of the chakras. See this page: http://spiritualwarfare666.webs.com/Satanic_Symbols.htm "Lucifer has several sigils. All have to do with reaching the godhead. His symbol at left represents the True GRAIL. This is the cup that holds the elixer of life. The Catholic Church STOLE this concept and corrupted it. The Grail is part of the Magnum Opus, the potential of which we have within ourselves. It is not a material object, it is a concept. The "blood of the chakras" is the energy they leak when stimulated. The Grail is depicted as "Royal Blood." this is the 'blood' of the chakras." See??What do you think the elixir of life is, becuase you asked that in a way you obviously thought it was something else. Honestly, I'm not sure if you have even read
the JoS site where it's been talked or even the posts here, but you're stating things from a xian perspective. Everyone here knows that the stories of our Gods, most of them are allegories relating to the Magnum Opus, they put there because they knew they were gonna lose a battle and the enemy was going to destroy spiritual knowledge and kill his people. In fact there're very few things about the life of the Gods and the Gods themselves, most of them are allegories. The Gods are not interested in putting things about themselves so much as allegories for the Magnum Opus. Set and Horus, in reality as ET beings are not enemies, it's just these stories happened to be allegories. The same thing with Ishtar traveling through the 7 gates. It's more than obvious that this symbolizes the 7 chakras. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote: Then do please, explain to me
who it is that birthed him. Please, I'm oh so dying to know. Where did I even say he was an "Omni" God? What of things such as "Destruction and Creation"? What about when splits are made? What of the times when the work became overbearing and he decided to start ruling with various other Demons/Gods to lighten the load? To run their family business the way they do? How well do you really even know Satan/Lucifer? In his most prominent form, his esteemed self? How well do you really know someone who is the "Bearer of Light", the "Light Bringer". Whose personal sigil, that only belongs to him, is the Elixir of life? Maybe I'm just talking to a Jew, is what I'm doing. Since I sincerely doubt you're someone who knows Satan personally enough to answer questions about him so adamantly. I will give you this much however. I do understand how much, if not everything that is said about him is based off of "human" perspective.
So I will leave you with that much. No offense towards you. Hail the Gods of Hell --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote: You ignored my post. Satan being the Creator God only means he created humanity and nothing else. That's it, Satan was BORN like humans do. He has a father and a mother. In fact Satan's race of ET's used to be mortals like us until they found a way to become immortal. "Well, my theory is that he might not have taken a "human-like" form until later on. Chaos before Order, and whatnot. That before he was of light, he was of darkness. Being the sort of "True God" he is, it is obvious he has had many different 'forms' in days past." You're talking of the xian definition of god. A God in Satanism doesn't refer to an omniblahblah being, but just a physical ET being who reached immortality. Ask the Gods
instead of making up theories based on the xian view. "and wielder of the Elixir of Life (Holy Grail)" You know this is an allegory, right??? --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote: Well, my theory is that he might not have taken a "human-like" form until later on. Chaos before Order, and whatnot. That before he was of light, he was of darkness. Being the sort of "True God" he is, it is obvious he has had many different 'forms' in days past. Remember that they are extra-terrestrials, whose reach/presence goes far beyond that of planet Earth. So how much can anyone really say? It's difficult for anyone to speak on behalf of them when they are so much older than the rest of the Gods. (Satan/Beelzebub) Simply put, I remember meditating on a time that long
ago and I started to see some visions of how it may have been back then. Clearly very simple, and very powerful days. Creation and formation of the elements, simple thought processes, simple energy workings. Something of that matter. Being the Creator God, and wielder of the Elixir of Life (Holy Grail), it doesn't make sense that he has been here since the beginning? Hail the Gods of Hell --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote: No, it talks about the "beginning of time here on earth" i.e. when humanity was first created. On another page it mentions Satan being well over 500,000 years old: http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... liens.html "Satan is over half a million years old." There's no such thing as an omni-creator comparable
to the fictitious xian god, our Gods are extraterrestrials who only genetically engineered humanity. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote: I notice how it's mentioned on the JoS site about Satan and Beelzebub: "...they both go back to the "beginning of time" here on earth; Enlil and Enki." Does it mean that Satan and Beelzebub go back to the very beginning of all existence? First there was nothing, then there was Satan and Beelzebub? That... "Here on Earth", we know them as Enlil and Enki? Satan being a "creator" God, meaning he was responsible for creating something out of nothing, manifesting all things into existence from the very start? (The Big Bang?) Hail the Gods of Hell
 
All the Demons are True Gods as well.

Satan is stated to be the One True God because He is the one who stands in opposition to all the bogus "gods" of enemy religions.

And, Satan is the being who spearheaded the project where humanity was created, using His own DNA. So He is humankind's Father.


HAIL SATAN!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@... wrote:

I didn't want it to come off as monotheistic. I know full well of the other Gods, I simply mention how Satan is described as the one "True" God.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Don Danko <mageson6666@ wrote:

*state there is no monotheistic creator of the universe.
 
This life force is also called the Brahman.


________________________________
From: Don Danko <mageson6666@
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 5:27:29 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Beginning of Time?


 

"The beginning of time here on earth." Is reference to the start of humanity and human civilization. Only. Hence: "Here on earth." I also doubt earth has been around since the beginning of time. And then time is relative to specific density fields. And in some places time might not exist.  Its not a one shoe deal. Infact it could be the universe has no beginning.
 
 
Anyway the ancient texts in the East where a lot of information remained. State that their is monotheistic creator of the universe. Their is just the Brahmanada the universe that is still manifested out of the ether.
 
As I wrote in the article on Brahman, Aryan and Nirvana. The concept of monothiesm is corrupted from the symbolism of the Magnum Opus. Previous to the rise of the enemy programs. Everyone understand the symbolic mythos as that.


________________________________
From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 5:13:55 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Beginning of Time?

 
The disrespectful nonsense you're saying about Satan taking a human form... You know that Satan CREATED us IN HIS OWN IMAGE AND LIKENESS, RIGHT?? We're actually the ones who look like him since we are genetically engineered by the Daemons and not the other way round. As I said many times, you use the xian definition of a God. In Satanism, a God is simply a living being who has reached physical immortality and spiritual perfection. That's it. The entire purpose here is for humans to become Gods as well, that's what Spiritual Satanism is about, reaching physical immortality and spiritual perfection. Not to try to fawn upon and make baseless theories about real extraterrestrial beings and try to xianize them. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote: " I do understand how much, if not everything that is said about him is based off of "human" perspective." No, actually most of what you
say is based on the xian/RHP perspective and you can't really grasp that the Gods have nothing to do with xianity, you seem to want to follow xianity with different gods but believe the same things i.e. that they created everything. You always try to fit the Gods, who are real ET beings and not random forces into a xian view. The xian view is a LIE and a corruption. There's no such evidence for an omni-creator. No evidence at all, since no BEING created everything. The universe created itself and that's it. There's also no evidence that there's an omni-being that existed for ever and wants the good of all beings concerned. Also, you know that Satan/Enki and the Gods are Nordic Aliens, right???And that their race evolved from animals and lesser species much like everything does??This is a fact obviously. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote: His father Anu and an unknown
mother. "What of things such as "Destruction and Creation"? What about when splits are made? What of the times when the work became overbearing and he decided to start ruling with various other Demons/Gods to lighten the load? To run their family business the way they do?" You know these are mostly allegories for the Magnum Opus, right?? Like before, you're taking allegories as literal. "How well do you really know someone who is the "Bearer of Light", the "Light Bringer"." This is allegory mostly, obviously. The "light" and the sun and the Sun-Gods in ancient religions, their stories were representing the final step for the Magnum Opus, where one radiates light from his solar chakra. "Whose personal sigil, that only belongs to him, is the Elixir of life?" This is an allegory as well. In fact the elixir of life is a stage of working for the Magnum Opus when completed brings you physical immortality.
That's what it means, all the sigils are diagrams for steps and workings of Magnum Opus. HP Maxine even explained that before, the grail with the blood symbolizes the "blood" of the chakras. See this page: http://spiritualwarfare666.webs.com/Satanic_Symbols.htm "Lucifer has several sigils. All have to do with reaching the godhead. His symbol at left represents the True GRAIL. This is the cup that holds the elixer of life. The Catholic Church STOLE this concept and corrupted it. The Grail is part of the Magnum Opus, the potential of which we have within ourselves. It is not a material object, it is a concept. The "blood of the chakras" is the energy they leak when stimulated. The Grail is depicted as "Royal Blood." this is the 'blood' of the chakras." See??What do you think the elixir of life is, becuase you asked that in a way you obviously thought it was something else. Honestly, I'm not sure if you have even read
the JoS site where it's been talked or even the posts here, but you're stating things from a xian perspective. Everyone here knows that the stories of our Gods, most of them are allegories relating to the Magnum Opus, they put there because they knew they were gonna lose a battle and the enemy was going to destroy spiritual knowledge and kill his people. In fact there're very few things about the life of the Gods and the Gods themselves, most of them are allegories. The Gods are not interested in putting things about themselves so much as allegories for the Magnum Opus. Set and Horus, in reality as ET beings are not enemies, it's just these stories happened to be allegories. The same thing with Ishtar traveling through the 7 gates. It's more than obvious that this symbolizes the 7 chakras. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote: Then do please, explain to me
who it is that birthed him. Please, I'm oh so dying to know. Where did I even say he was an "Omni" God? What of things such as "Destruction and Creation"? What about when splits are made? What of the times when the work became overbearing and he decided to start ruling with various other Demons/Gods to lighten the load? To run their family business the way they do? How well do you really even know Satan/Lucifer? In his most prominent form, his esteemed self? How well do you really know someone who is the "Bearer of Light", the "Light Bringer". Whose personal sigil, that only belongs to him, is the Elixir of life? Maybe I'm just talking to a Jew, is what I'm doing. Since I sincerely doubt you're someone who knows Satan personally enough to answer questions about him so adamantly. I will give you this much however. I do understand how much, if not everything that is said about him is based off of "human" perspective.
So I will leave you with that much. No offense towards you. Hail the Gods of Hell --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote: You ignored my post. Satan being the Creator God only means he created humanity and nothing else. That's it, Satan was BORN like humans do. He has a father and a mother. In fact Satan's race of ET's used to be mortals like us until they found a way to become immortal. "Well, my theory is that he might not have taken a "human-like" form until later on. Chaos before Order, and whatnot. That before he was of light, he was of darkness. Being the sort of "True God" he is, it is obvious he has had many different 'forms' in days past." You're talking of the xian definition of god. A God in Satanism doesn't refer to an omniblahblah being, but just a physical ET being who reached immortality. Ask the Gods
instead of making up theories based on the xian view. "and wielder of the Elixir of Life (Holy Grail)" You know this is an allegory, right??? --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote: Well, my theory is that he might not have taken a "human-like" form until later on. Chaos before Order, and whatnot. That before he was of light, he was of darkness. Being the sort of "True God" he is, it is obvious he has had many different 'forms' in days past. Remember that they are extra-terrestrials, whose reach/presence goes far beyond that of planet Earth. So how much can anyone really say? It's difficult for anyone to speak on behalf of them when they are so much older than the rest of the Gods. (Satan/Beelzebub) Simply put, I remember meditating on a time that long
ago and I started to see some visions of how it may have been back then. Clearly very simple, and very powerful days. Creation and formation of the elements, simple thought processes, simple energy workings. Something of that matter. Being the Creator God, and wielder of the Elixir of Life (Holy Grail), it doesn't make sense that he has been here since the beginning? Hail the Gods of Hell --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote: No, it talks about the "beginning of time here on earth" i.e. when humanity was first created. On another page it mentions Satan being well over 500,000 years old: http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... liens.html "Satan is over half a million years old." There's no such thing as an omni-creator comparable
to the fictitious xian god, our Gods are extraterrestrials who only genetically engineered humanity. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "sammydavis.1666" <sammydavis.1666@ wrote: I notice how it's mentioned on the JoS site about Satan and Beelzebub: "...they both go back to the "beginning of time" here on earth; Enlil and Enki." Does it mean that Satan and Beelzebub go back to the very beginning of all existence? First there was nothing, then there was Satan and Beelzebub? That... "Here on Earth", we know them as Enlil and Enki? Satan being a "creator" God, meaning he was responsible for creating something out of nothing, manifesting all things into existence from the very start? (The Big Bang?) Hail the Gods of Hell
 
Yes. Satan/Mero/Enki is the Lord of Aeons. And also the true alpha and
omega, at least as regards humanity's creation.

On 6/30/13, hells666steward <hells666steward@... wrote:
All the Demons are True Gods as well.

Satan is stated to be the One True God because He is the one who stands in
opposition to all the bogus "gods" of enemy religions.

And, Satan is the being who spearheaded the project where humanity was
created, using His own DNA. So He is humankind's Father.


HAIL SATAN!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sammydavis.1666"
<sammydavis.1666@... wrote:

I didn't want it to come off as monotheistic. I know full well of the
other Gods, I simply mention how Satan is described as the one "True"
God.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Don Danko <mageson6666@ wrote:

*state there is no monotheistic creator of the universe.
Â
This life force is also called the Brahman.


________________________________
From: Don Danko <mageson6666@
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 5:27:29 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Beginning of Time?


Â

"The beginning of time here on earth." Is reference to the start of
humanity and human civilization. Only. Hence: "Here on earth." I also
doubt earth has been around since the beginning of time. And then time
is relative to specific density fields. And in some places time might
not exist.  Its not a one shoe deal. Infact it could be the universe
has no beginning.
Â
Â
Anyway the ancient texts in the East where a lot of information
remained. State that their is monotheistic creator of the universe.
Their is just the Brahmanada the universe that is still manifested out
of the ether.
Â
As I wrote in the article on Brahman, Aryan and Nirvana. The concept of
monothiesm is corrupted from the symbolism of the Magnum Opus. Previous
to the rise of the enemy programs. Everyone understand the symbolic
mythos as that.


________________________________
From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 5:13:55 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Beginning of Time?

Â
The disrespectful nonsense you're saying about Satan taking a human
form... You know that Satan CREATED us IN HIS OWN IMAGE AND LIKENESS,
RIGHT?? We're actually the ones who look like him since we are
genetically engineered by the Daemons and not the other way round. As I
said many times, you use the xian definition of a God. In Satanism, a
God is simply a living being who has reached physical immortality and
spiritual perfection. That's it. The entire purpose here is for humans
to become Gods as well, that's what Spiritual Satanism is about,
reaching physical immortality and spiritual perfection. Not to try to
fawn upon and make baseless theories about real extraterrestrial beings
and try to xianize them. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com,
"the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote: " I do
understand how much, if not everything that is said about him is based
off of "human" perspective." No, actually most of what you
say is based on the xian/RHP perspective and you can't really grasp
that the Gods have nothing to do with xianity, you seem to want to
follow xianity with different gods but believe the same things i.e. that
they created everything. You always try to fit the Gods, who are real ET
beings and not random forces into a xian view. The xian view is a LIE
and a corruption. There's no such evidence for an omni-creator. No
evidence at all, since no BEING created everything. The universe created
itself and that's it. There's also no evidence that there's an
omni-being that existed for ever and wants the good of all beings
concerned. Also, you know that Satan/Enki and the Gods are Nordic
Aliens, right???And that their race evolved from animals and lesser
species much like everything does??This is a fact obviously.
--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666"
<the_fire_starter666@ wrote: His father Anu and an unknown
mother. "What of things such as "Destruction and Creation"?
What about when splits are made? What of the times when the work became
overbearing and he decided to start ruling with various other
Demons/Gods to lighten the load? To run their family business the way
they do?" You know these are mostly allegories for the Magnum
Opus, right?? Like before, you're taking allegories as literal.
"How well do you really know someone who is the "Bearer of Light", the
"Light Bringer"." This is allegory mostly, obviously. The
"light" and the sun and the Sun-Gods in ancient religions, their stories
were representing the final step for the Magnum Opus, where one radiates
light from his solar chakra. "Whose personal sigil, that only
belongs to him, is the Elixir of life?" This is an allegory as
well. In fact the elixir of life is a stage of working for the Magnum
Opus when completed brings you physical immortality.
That's what it means, all the sigils are diagrams for steps and
workings of Magnum Opus. HP Maxine even explained that before, the grail
with the blood symbolizes the "blood" of the chakras. See this page:
http://spiritualwarfare666.webs.com/Satanic_Symbols.htm
"Lucifer has several sigils. All have to do with reaching the godhead.
His symbol at left represents the True GRAIL. This is the cup that holds
the elixer of life. The Catholic Church STOLE this concept and corrupted
it. The Grail is part of the Magnum Opus, the potential of which we have
within ourselves. It is not a material object, it is a concept. The
"blood of the chakras" is the energy they leak when stimulated. The
Grail is depicted as "Royal Blood." this is the 'blood' of the chakras."
See??What do you think the elixir of life is, becuase you asked
that in a way you obviously thought it was something else.
Honestly, I'm not sure if you have even read
the JoS site where it's been talked or even the posts here, but you're
stating things from a xian perspective. Everyone here knows that the
stories of our Gods, most of them are allegories relating to the Magnum
Opus, they put there because they knew they were gonna lose a battle and
the enemy was going to destroy spiritual knowledge and kill his people.
In fact there're very few things about the life of the Gods and
the Gods themselves, most of them are allegories. The Gods are not
interested in putting things about themselves so much as allegories for
the Magnum Opus. Set and Horus, in reality as ET beings are not
enemies, it's just these stories happened to be allegories. The same
thing with Ishtar traveling through the 7 gates. It's more than obvious
that this symbolizes the 7 chakras. --- In
mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "sammydavis.1666"
<sammydavis.1666@ wrote: Then do please, explain to me
who it is that birthed him. Please, I'm oh so dying to know. Where did
I even say he was an "Omni" God? What of things such as "Destruction and
Creation"? What about when splits are made? What of the times when the
work became overbearing and he decided to start ruling with various
other Demons/Gods to lighten the load? To run their family business the
way they do? How well do you really even know
Satan/Lucifer? In his most prominent form, his esteemed self? How well
do you really know someone who is the "Bearer of Light", the "Light
Bringer". Whose personal sigil, that only belongs to him, is the Elixir
of life? Maybe I'm just talking to a Jew, is what I'm
doing. Since I sincerely doubt you're someone who knows Satan personally
enough to answer questions about him so adamantly. I will
give you this much however. I do understand how much, if not everything
that is said about him is based off of "human" perspective.
So I will leave you with that much. No offense towards you.
Hail the Gods of Hell --- In
mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666"
<the_fire_starter666@ wrote: You ignored my post. Satan
being the Creator God only means he created humanity and nothing else.
That's it, Satan was BORN like humans do. He has a father and a mother.
In fact Satan's race of ET's used to be mortals like us until they found
a way to become immortal. "Well, my theory is that he
might not have taken a "human-like" form until later on. Chaos before
Order, and whatnot. That before he was of light, he was of darkness.
Being the sort of "True God" he is, it is obvious he has had many
different 'forms' in days past." You're talking of the
xian definition of god. A God in Satanism doesn't refer to an
omniblahblah being, but just a physical ET being who reached
immortality. Ask the Gods
instead of making up theories based on the xian view.
"and wielder of the Elixir of Life (Holy Grail)" You
know this is an allegory, right???
--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "sammydavis.1666"
<sammydavis.1666@ wrote: Well, my theory is that he
might not have taken a "human-like" form until later on. Chaos before
Order, and whatnot. That before he was of light, he was of darkness.
Being the sort of "True God" he is, it is obvious he has had many
different 'forms' in days past. Remember that they
are extra-terrestrials, whose reach/presence goes far beyond that of
planet Earth. So how much can anyone really say?
It's difficult for anyone to speak on behalf of them when they are so
much older than the rest of the Gods. (Satan/Beelzebub)
Simply put, I remember meditating on a time that long
ago and I started to see some visions of how it may have been back
then. Clearly very simple, and very powerful days. Creation and
formation of the elements, simple thought processes, simple energy
workings. Something of that matter. Being the
Creator God, and wielder of the Elixir of Life (Holy Grail), it doesn't
make sense that he has been here since the beginning?
Hail the Gods of Hell --- In
mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666"
<the_fire_starter666@ wrote: No, it talks about
the "beginning of time here on earth" i.e. when humanity was first
created. On another page it mentions Satan being well over 500,000 years
old:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... liens.html
"Satan is over half a million years old."
There's no such thing as an omni-creator comparable
to the fictitious xian god, our Gods are extraterrestrials who only
genetically engineered humanity. --- In
mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "sammydavis.1666"
<sammydavis.1666@ wrote: I notice how it's
mentioned on the JoS site about Satan and Beelzebub:
"...they both go back to the "beginning of time" here on earth; Enlil
and Enki." Does it mean that Satan and
Beelzebub go back to the very beginning of all existence? First there
was nothing, then there was Satan and Beelzebub?
That... "Here on Earth", we know them as Enlil and Enki?
Satan being a "creator" God, meaning he was
responsible for creating something out of nothing, manifesting all
things into existence from the very start? (The Big Bang?)
Hail the Gods of Hell
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

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