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Greetings! There's been said a lot about the 108 beads in a rosary. I've bought and painted as many beads. Should I change them to 111 as I heard it's better, or leave it like this (since I also heard that was just an opinion)?
 
Henu the Great said:
I just want to add that you should use a different set of beads for black/white magick. I have never used beads for counting rtr, but I suppose the best option would be to have a separate set for that as well.

As for the number of beads. You can make your own with different numbers for different purposes. Generally something like 100, 108 and 111 would be nice. Depending on the number of beads you can have different options in regards to numerology. The one with 108 has increments of 9, where as 100 has increments of 10.

Thank you! I don't want to count the rtr with the mala. The reason I would have it in my hand under one rtr is so that the rtr would cleanse the mala of the Buddhist ritual, that was performed on the mala before it was sold.
 
Any advice with the pendulum? It keeps reacting to my thoughts. I cannot get an objective answer. It's not that it either answers or stays stills. It is moving continuously. For example I said just to see if it followed my expectations, "Is my cat green?" and thought intensely "YES" and the spinning motion said Yes altough it's not true. It happens like this every time.
I can only ask about things I really don't know but even then it answers what I expect is the answer , not what really is or will happen.
It seems I move it even when I don't ask anything I just desire it to move somehow and it does. So it's logical that it also moves like this if I ask questions.
Are pendulums moved so easily because they're energy sensitive?
If I get in trance and detach myself from any thought and feeling and desire, will energy of what's actually happening in the astral replace my energy input, deeming the answers objective? What's actually moving the pendulum, when it's not the user's energy input, or another being's? I mean, when normal questions are asked and they get answered objectively. How does the pendulum know the answer?
 
Dark Lawyer said:
Thank you! I don't want to count the rtr with the mala. The reason I would have it in my hand under one rtr is so that the rtr would cleanse the mala of the Buddhist ritual, that was performed on the mala before it was sold.
You could also try to chant Surya while engulfing the mala in white-golden light. I think this method should be enough to consecrate and clean the mala bead, but you never know if the Buddhists used something linked to Yehuborim aleph-bet in which case final rtr would be called for, for sure.
 
AsraArdwulfLeberecht said:
Greetings! There's been said a lot about the 108 beads in a rosary. I've bought and painted as many beads. Should I change them to 111 as I heard it's better, or leave it like this (since I also heard that was just an opinion)?
Both are good options. For specific cases one over another works better. There is objectively no better one, simply many uses.
 
Dark Lawyer said:
This possibility had not occurred to me. I'm a beginner, but I'm interested in black magic. I've given up on black (coffee), so I need something black, haha. But I haven't tried it yet because it's not recommended for beginners. And OECD thoughts also make me avoid black magic. I suppose it can be dangerous if I have a compulsive thought while practicing black magic and the energy goes in the wrong direction?

However, what you write seems like a good method. How can I most effectively redirect the slag after cleansing to a specific person? So far, I have asked my Guardian Demon (although I am not sure of name yet) to send the slag back to the senders because that is what was suggested for beginners.

You wrote elsewhere (in connection with binding):

"Instead of asking for a Daemon to do all the work, you can ask for help with directing the energy, for example. This shows willingness for work and development on your part instead of looking for a free handout."

And Ol argedco luciftias wrote:

Yes, do what Henu said. I also want to say that you should definitely ask a god for help. The god will keep you safe, and help make sure that nothing bad gets attached to you.

I have a picture of the person on my tablet. Should I ask my Guardian Demon for help and protection, and then visualize the slag being placed into the picture by looking at the picture? But then the slag doesn't go into the tablet? I don't want to ruin the tablet. :)

And... If I have an oecd thought or sexual energy while looking at the picture, can this affect the path of the slag? (Because there are also sexual fantasies about the person.) I hope my Guardian Demon will protect me from this.
Most effectively, and safely? Well, you would need to practice your focus firstly as that has a great deal of impact on how you perform in this regard. Being obsessive about certain thoughts is not good, but I do not know excatly by how much so I can't comment on that. What I can say is that you should heal your condition as that is a hindrance and simply do your best.

The picture is like a reference point, and you would not be directing energy into the picture or frame, but to the person you are referring in the picture unless you are specifically willing energy to go into the frame. (Don't do that) :D It would help a great deal to be in a trance state, or at least very relaxed. Work your skills little by little. You can ask you Guardian for assistance and as your skills increase this help can and will be reduced. When you evoke runes you should clean yourself not only before, but also afterwards. Transferring dross after cleaning is another matter, as you have already cleaned yourself. Having basic routine consisting with daily cleaning etc. should keep you safe from harmful events in most cases. Sometimes routine has to be increased to meet increased demands. Lastly, when you are done do not obsess over this process. Simply let it be and don't mind it as doing so would hinder or ruin the process.
 
Greetings! How are Demon names to be vibrated? Each letter as it's pronounced for Runes?
 
Greetings! I realized that one of the Sigils I drew of a Demon has crumpled a little from staying in an uncomfortable position. Should I redo the Sigil, aka is it considered a sign of disrespect if the edges are crumpled? If I press them in the opposite direction and I manage to get them to stay straight without leaving marks is it considered acceptable? I am asking because Satan stated in the Al Jilwah to keep in highest regard objects that remind us of His image.
Also, the pieces of paper on which all my Sigils are drawn are not even, there are some slightly bigger than the others. And taking any individual piece per se, the paper's sides are not equal, I think. They don't look bad in my opinion. It's like I ripped it from a bigger piece of paper but it looks natural, it would look classical if it would be old. It's ripped but carefully done so, as to not rip the Sigil itself.
Is it a problem? Should I redo the Sigils if they are small?
 
AsraArdwulfLeberecht said:
Any advice with the pendulum? It keeps reacting to my thoughts. I cannot get an objective answer. It's not that it either answers or stays stills. It is moving continuously. For example I said just to see if it followed my expectations, "Is my cat green?" and thought intensely "YES" and the spinning motion said Yes altough it's not true. It happens like this every time.
I can only ask about things I really don't know but even then it answers what I expect is the answer , not what really is or will happen.
It seems I move it even when I don't ask anything I just desire it to move somehow and it does. So it's logical that it also moves like this if I ask questions.
Are pendulums moved so easily because they're energy sensitive?
If I get in trance and detach myself from any thought and feeling and desire, will energy of what's actually happening in the astral replace my energy input, deeming the answers objective? What's actually moving the pendulum, when it's not the user's energy input, or another being's? I mean, when normal questions are asked and they get answered objectively. How does the pendulum know the answer?
I almost thought you were speaking of pendulums in the abstract sense like Reality Transurfing. But as far as I know, pendulums are just highly sensitive antenna to your energy. So your highest self knows the answers anyway and the pendulum is channeling that vibration of your inner dialogue.
 
AsraArdwulfLeberecht said:
Any advice with the pendulum? It keeps reacting to my thoughts. I cannot get an objective answer. It's not that it either answers or stays stills. It is moving continuously. For example I said just to see if it followed my expectations, "Is my cat green?" and thought intensely "YES" and the spinning motion said Yes altough it's not true. It happens like this every time.
I can only ask about things I really don't know but even then it answers what I expect is the answer , not what really is or will happen.
It seems I move it even when I don't ask anything I just desire it to move somehow and it does. So it's logical that it also moves like this if I ask questions.
Are pendulums moved so easily because they're energy sensitive?
If I get in trance and detach myself from any thought and feeling and desire, will energy of what's actually happening in the astral replace my energy input, deeming the answers objective? What's actually moving the pendulum, when it's not the user's energy input, or another being's? I mean, when normal questions are asked and they get answered objectively. How does the pendulum know the answer?


A pendulum is nearly impossible for anybody to always get a correct answer from. It is very uncommon for somebody to be able to use one at all, but some people could sometimes get an answer with it. But I have never heard of anybody who would always get a correct answer.

There are many other things you can do that will be much more helpful, much easier, and much more correct. Like just working on your intuition in general to make your intuition be always correct, and allow you to know the truth in all situations. One way to do this is by using the Laguz and Dagaz runes, and you can vibrate these into your 3rd eye and clearly see them there while you are doing it.
 

I understand what you say but then why is it written on the website that the accuracy gets better in years, and that anything can be practically revealed? Wouldn't someone say such things if after some time, the pendulum did always react accurately?
 
Someone gave me a book, the "sacred astrology from Elendiar, of the obscure elves, Corpus Elendiaricum" supposedly talking about the Black Sun and Kiron. It sounds like new age bullshit, I haven't opened it yet, just googled it to see if I'm wasting my time and almost no results show. Only one book : "solomonary astrology" and in this case I'm throwing it away.
Do you know anything about this "Corpus Elendiaricum"?
 
I've got a lot of trouble with converting the Blue Star Athenaeum from HPHC's signature to rar so I can carry it on my USB - files don't open, files cause my browser errors, files too big, files not supported etc, how did you solve them?
 
AsraArdwulfLeberecht said:

I understand what you say but then why is it written on the website that the accuracy gets better in years, and that anything can be practically revealed? Wouldn't someone say such things if after some time, the pendulum did always react accurately?

If you put enough practice into it and work hard enough, and advance yourself enough, you could become that accurate with it.

I'm just saying that is unnecessary because you could find other ways to get accurate answers, much easier and in a much smaller amount of time.
 
Serbon said:
I read somewhere that this Loki guy was actually mageson

Loki88 is not Mageson. They are 2 different people. But they were working together the whole time.

Loki88 was working together with ZolaLuckyStar, who were both infiltrators. They were also working for a guy Brian, but I do not know how to spell his last name. Zola was his secretary originally, and Loki88 followed and helped both of them. And Mageson was also working together with the 3 of them.
 
AsraArdwulfLeberecht said:
Someone gave me a book, the "sacred astrology from Elendiar, of the obscure elves, Corpus Elendiaricum" supposedly talking about the Black Sun and Kiron. It sounds like new age bullshit, I haven't opened it yet, just googled it to see if I'm wasting my time and almost no results show. Only one book : "solomonary astrology" and in this case I'm throwing it away.
Do you know anything about this "Corpus Elendiaricum"?

Nevermind, I forced myself to read the first pages of this infected book just to check, don't google it, you're wasting time.
 
Henu the Great said:
Most effectively, and safely? Well, you would need to practice your focus firstly as that has a great deal of impact on how you perform in this regard. Being obsessive about certain thoughts is not good, but I do not know excatly by how much so I can't comment on that. What I can say is that you should heal your condition as that is a hindrance and simply do your best.

The picture is like a reference point, and you would not be directing energy into the picture or frame, but to the person you are referring in the picture unless you are specifically willing energy to go into the frame. (Don't do that) :D It would help a great deal to be in a trance state, or at least very relaxed. Work your skills little by little. You can ask you Guardian for assistance and as your skills increase this help can and will be reduced. When you evoke runes you should clean yourself not only before, but also afterwards. Transferring dross after cleaning is another matter, as you have already cleaned yourself. Having basic routine consisting with daily cleaning etc. should keep you safe from harmful events in most cases. Sometimes routine has to be increased to meet increased demands. Lastly, when you are done do not obsess over this process. Simply let it be and don't mind it as doing so would hinder or ruin the process.

Thanks!

I asked my Guardian Demon to help me control the energy. Good job, I managed to get the slag on target without a picture. Then I tried it with the picture on the tablet and it was easier.

I think I exaggerate when I talk about the OECD. Since I have been SS, it has improved a lot. But for now, at my current level of development, it is sufficient to send the slag to the target person after cleaning.

And I'm happy to report that I'm now doing the Killing Tetragrammaton after FRTR, as you advised earlier. :) The only days I don't have an evening FRTR are days when I work 11-12 hours for 2 or 3 consecutive days. Yesterday I accidentally said one letter 7 times instead of 6. Did that invalidate the whole KT?

And one more question. I want to start cleaning/protecting a person important to me and my cat. For example, the person has been given "energy" by a chiropractor, which I don't know what kind of energy it is. For me, as a not very experienced SS, what is the easiest and most effective way to give enough energy to both the person and my cat, and still have enough energy for me?
 
Have you tried to download and copy the Blue Star Athenaeum on an USB? It gives me all sorts of errors, it removed access to my disk and now I can't even format it because it says I don't have enough rights to do so. File can't be deleted, can't be opened, suddenly the space on my disk is insufficient (but it's not I've checked with the data in properties of both my disk and this folder), and now Windows doesn't recognize my disk anymore.
 
When attempting to copy it in my USB, my drive malfunctions and Windows doesn't recognize it . Also, some files it contains are unable to be copied. I want to have it though, to keep it for future generations and in case one day the enemy manages to take the Internet down
 
88HungarianSatanicWarrior666 said:
This is about Satanic hypnosis,but I can't do it because I can't even go into trance because my meditation and concentration skills are so bad.
You should learn how to trance, this article explains why:

The Benefits of Trance by Lydia
https://archive.ph/Q0ckL
https://web.archive.org/web/20220621141532/https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=74755&p=367714

You could use this method to get into trances more easily:
High Priestess Maxine Dietrich said:
When one encounters problems and obstacles, one should go to the bottom of this and every night before going to sleep, affirm 20-30 times when relaxed, for example: "I have perfect concentration."

Other affirmations for example- "I am always highly motivated and I always meditate every day", “I always have time to do quality meditations", “I am able to enter deep trances easily" you get the general idea. Remember, affirmations should always be in the present tense because the subconscious mind and
soul do not have a time frame such as in the future tense "will" happen. Always make your affirmations in the present tense.

Before sleeping, affirmations should be done some 25-30 times for 40 days straight.
Source: JoS Newsletter 2008-2009 Sermons and Important Messages
(page 8)
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
I'm just saying that is unnecessary because you could find other ways to get accurate answers, much easier and in a much smaller amount of time.

Then what method(s) do you recommend to get accurate answers to questions? I've only heard of the pendulum, the Ouija board, Tarot, and Astrology, but I'm open to new suggestions. Neither sounds for beginners but I suppose all good work must start somewhere.
 
Greetings. Is there any page on the JoS that addresses the use of plants for medicinal/wellbeing purposes (I mean other than magickal workings)? I read a book about this but it slanders witches so the rest of the info may also be corrupted.

Second, I've read in the Spiritual Warfare Training Manual that it's recommended to keep a journal, to keep track of meditations and relate important points. What's the benefit of that? If we kept journals for our daily meditation routine, for our spiritual warfare, for our rituals, our astrology sessions, and whatever other projects we undergo, we'd spend more time writing than practicing. Is it really useful for some of them? If yes, which? Wouldn't intense focus and active involvement in what we're doing replace formal writing of it?
 
Academic Scholar said:
88HungarianSatanicWarrior666 said:
This is about Satanic hypnosis,but I can't do it because I can't even go into trance because my meditation and concentration skills are so bad.
You should learn how to trance, this article explains why:

The Benefits of Trance by Lydia
https://archive.ph/Q0ckL
https://web.archive.org/web/20220621141532/https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=74755&p=367714
This could really have been one for the bookmarks.

This was exactly what I needed the most.I don't understand why it wasn't in the bookmarks (or at least I don't remember it being in the bookmarks, or if it was, it was only there for a very short time)I should browse this forum more,not just the bookmarked preferred articles,I just sometimes get so into FRTR that I don't do much else besides FRTR. :oops: :oops: :)
Academic Scholar said:
You could use this method to get into trances more easily:
High Priestess Maxine Dietrich said:
When one encounters problems and obstacles, one should go to the bottom of this and every night before going to sleep, affirm 20-30 times when relaxed, for example: "I have perfect concentration."

Other affirmations for example- "I am always highly motivated and I always meditate every day", “I always have time to do quality meditations", “I am able to enter deep trances easily" you get the general idea. Remember, affirmations should always be in the present tense because the subconscious mind and
soul do not have a time frame such as in the future tense "will" happen. Always make your affirmations in the present tense.

Before sleeping, affirmations should be done some 25-30 times for 40 days straight.
Source: JoS Newsletter 2008-2009 Sermons and Important Messages
(page 8)
That's what I'm going to use, only when I say this affirmation, I'm going to add Runa,x10Sowilo and x10Eihwaz to give plus strength to all this.Eihwaz protects me from difficulties and Sowilo gives strength to all this.

By the way, I'm glad you shared this link because I hadn't seen it before.Although I have read all of Maxine's sermons in Hungarian (where I read them, the website has been taken down, probably by the enemy, and I have been here on the JoS forum ever since)


Thank you very much for this simple, but at the same time your valuable responses.
 
hOW much reward do the gods give to those who withhold judgment on things they don't understand?
 
Dark Lawyer said:
Thanks!

I asked my Guardian Demon to help me control the energy. Good job, I managed to get the slag on target without a picture. Then I tried it with the picture on the tablet and it was easier.

I think I exaggerate when I talk about the OECD. Since I have been SS, it has improved a lot. But for now, at my current level of development, it is sufficient to send the slag to the target person after cleaning.

And I'm happy to report that I'm now doing the Killing Tetragrammaton after FRTR, as you advised earlier. :) The only days I don't have an evening FRTR are days when I work 11-12 hours for 2 or 3 consecutive days. Yesterday I accidentally said one letter 7 times instead of 6. Did that invalidate the whole KT?
No, but it might weaken it a bit. Don't worry, you have plenty of opportunities to make up for it. :D

And one more question. I want to start cleaning/protecting a person important to me and my cat. For example, the person has been given "energy" by a chiropractor, which I don't know what kind of energy it is. For me, as a not very experienced SS, what is the easiest and most effective way to give enough energy to both the person and my cat, and still have enough energy for me?
You could simply do Retuning Curses 1&2 on this person as that is a beginner friendly option. This constitutes as cleaning and protection, not solely as "giving energy", but perhaps that is what you meant?

Genrally when we talk about "giving energy" (ie. energy work of any sorts) then you should always generate it abundantly as to not to drain yourself too much and potentially be vulnerable against enemy or whatever. Generally I would recommend rigorous yogic practice of Yoga and Pranyama, but our mileages vary and not everyone can do the same nor raise the same amout of energy. But in principle, keeping yourself on high levels gets the job done. Oh, and Returning Curses 1&2 would certainly have an effect on your own levels so keep an eye out how you feel and how much preparation you need to do, plus the amount of effort you can safely excert.
 
AsraArdwulfLeberecht said:
Greetings. Is there any page on the JoS that addresses the use of plants for medicinal/wellbeing purposes (I mean other than magickal workings)? I read a book about this but it slanders witches so the rest of the info may also be corrupted.

Second, I've read in the Spiritual Warfare Training Manual that it's recommended to keep a journal, to keep track of meditations and relate important points. What's the benefit of that? If we kept journals for our daily meditation routine, for our spiritual warfare, for our rituals, our astrology sessions, and whatever other projects we undergo, we'd spend more time writing than practicing. Is it really useful for some of them? If yes, which? Wouldn't intense focus and active involvement in what we're doing replace formal writing of it?
No, because it would be very difficult to remember excact things done, say, after two or three years, plus all the affirmations and other details that are good to keep track of.

The journaling does not have to be super specific nor complicated, but it certainly has its uses when done even simply. Personally I keep track of date (astrological, so the beginning and the end of the day, which changes every day in the northern hemisphere), time of the day I did something, what I did, affirmations and some other small details, but not going much further that that, at least for now. I did not begin this immediately when I dedicated, but I wish I had. Some things are not remembered excactly anymore, which would be interesting to look back one day and make stock of what has been done.

Not keeping track of things done at all has many more downsides that upsides. All it takes is a few minutes a day, at most. More complicated journaling perhaps 10 minutes a day, so that is not much at all either. Just cut back on something useless you do and voilá, you have the time. Unless you plan on making an 150-200 word essay every day this is something that does not take much time at all.
 

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