Asra
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Greetings! There's been said a lot about the 108 beads in a rosary. I've bought and painted as many beads. Should I change them to 111 as I heard it's better, or leave it like this (since I also heard that was just an opinion)?
Henu the Great said:I just want to add that you should use a different set of beads for black/white magick. I have never used beads for counting rtr, but I suppose the best option would be to have a separate set for that as well.
As for the number of beads. You can make your own with different numbers for different purposes. Generally something like 100, 108 and 111 would be nice. Depending on the number of beads you can have different options in regards to numerology. The one with 108 has increments of 9, where as 100 has increments of 10.
You could also try to chant Surya while engulfing the mala in white-golden light. I think this method should be enough to consecrate and clean the mala bead, but you never know if the Buddhists used something linked to Jewish aleph-bet in which case final rtr would be called for, for sure.Dark Lawyer said:Thank you! I don't want to count the rtr with the mala. The reason I would have it in my hand under one rtr is so that the rtr would cleanse the mala of the Buddhist ritual, that was performed on the mala before it was sold.
Both are good options. For specific cases one over another works better. There is objectively no better one, simply many uses.AsraArdwulfLeberecht said:Greetings! There's been said a lot about the 108 beads in a rosary. I've bought and painted as many beads. Should I change them to 111 as I heard it's better, or leave it like this (since I also heard that was just an opinion)?
Most effectively, and safely? Well, you would need to practice your focus firstly as that has a great deal of impact on how you perform in this regard. Being obsessive about certain thoughts is not good, but I do not know excatly by how much so I can't comment on that. What I can say is that you should heal your condition as that is a hindrance and simply do your best.Dark Lawyer said:This possibility had not occurred to me. I'm a beginner, but I'm interested in black magic. I've given up on black (coffee), so I need something black, haha. But I haven't tried it yet because it's not recommended for beginners. And OECD thoughts also make me avoid black magic. I suppose it can be dangerous if I have a compulsive thought while practicing black magic and the energy goes in the wrong direction?
However, what you write seems like a good method. How can I most effectively redirect the slag after cleansing to a specific person? So far, I have asked my Guardian Demon (although I am not sure of name yet) to send the slag back to the senders because that is what was suggested for beginners.
You wrote elsewhere (in connection with binding):
"Instead of asking for a Daemon to do all the work, you can ask for help with directing the energy, for example. This shows willingness for work and development on your part instead of looking for a free handout."
And Ol argedco luciftias wrote:
Yes, do what Henu said. I also want to say that you should definitely ask a god for help. The god will keep you safe, and help make sure that nothing bad gets attached to you.
I have a picture of the person on my tablet. Should I ask my Guardian Demon for help and protection, and then visualize the slag being placed into the picture by looking at the picture? But then the slag doesn't go into the tablet? I don't want to ruin the tablet.
And... If I have an oecd thought or sexual energy while looking at the picture, can this affect the path of the slag? (Because there are also sexual fantasies about the person.) I hope my Guardian Demon will protect me from this.
I almost thought you were speaking of pendulums in the abstract sense like Reality Transurfing. But as far as I know, pendulums are just highly sensitive antenna to your energy. So your highest self knows the answers anyway and the pendulum is channeling that vibration of your inner dialogue.AsraArdwulfLeberecht said:Any advice with the pendulum? It keeps reacting to my thoughts. I cannot get an objective answer. It's not that it either answers or stays stills. It is moving continuously. For example I said just to see if it followed my expectations, "Is my cat green?" and thought intensely "YES" and the spinning motion said Yes altough it's not true. It happens like this every time.
I can only ask about things I really don't know but even then it answers what I expect is the answer , not what really is or will happen.
It seems I move it even when I don't ask anything I just desire it to move somehow and it does. So it's logical that it also moves like this if I ask questions.
Are pendulums moved so easily because they're energy sensitive?
If I get in trance and detach myself from any thought and feeling and desire, will energy of what's actually happening in the astral replace my energy input, deeming the answers objective? What's actually moving the pendulum, when it's not the user's energy input, or another being's? I mean, when normal questions are asked and they get answered objectively. How does the pendulum know the answer?
Cosmic6999 said:Why nobody answer that question I post?
AsraArdwulfLeberecht said:Any advice with the pendulum? It keeps reacting to my thoughts. I cannot get an objective answer. It's not that it either answers or stays stills. It is moving continuously. For example I said just to see if it followed my expectations, "Is my cat green?" and thought intensely "YES" and the spinning motion said Yes altough it's not true. It happens like this every time.
I can only ask about things I really don't know but even then it answers what I expect is the answer , not what really is or will happen.
It seems I move it even when I don't ask anything I just desire it to move somehow and it does. So it's logical that it also moves like this if I ask questions.
Are pendulums moved so easily because they're energy sensitive?
If I get in trance and detach myself from any thought and feeling and desire, will energy of what's actually happening in the astral replace my energy input, deeming the answers objective? What's actually moving the pendulum, when it's not the user's energy input, or another being's? I mean, when normal questions are asked and they get answered objectively. How does the pendulum know the answer?
Ol argedco luciftias said:Cosmic6999 said:Why nobody answer that question I post?
We have spent years answering everything you have ever asked, and it has not helped you in any way. It has gotten you no where. So why waste our time and also waste your time?
Especially since even if you are acting nice now, you very frequently flip and act like you hate all of us. And you especially hate the white people here. So as one of these white people you hate, I am not going to bother you. I am going to leave you alone and ignore you. And it seems like ignoring you will not be any less helpful to you than spending the time trying to help you was.
"Help me help me help me" Help yourself. You want everything on a silver platter, but this isn't high school where all the answers can be cheated off of or googled. You're taking the path to literally become a god and you complain that it's difficult. Of course it's difficult, keep going. This is an individual path, yet you complain that others are not validating you. This is a path of empowerment of the self, but you're here begging others to empower you. What you need is self awareness. Let me ask you, when was the last time you've asked how you can help us?Cosmic6999 said:Aquarius said:Mate, how about you just do some self examination and be honest with yourself, how many years have you wasted, and how many more are you gonna waste with your baseless claims?Cosmic6999 said:No I’m calling on what I am reading on the forum
How they say this and that others think it’s a religion and what advice have people gave me explain to me??
Besides the 40 day program I did that and nothing
I ask people what’s the best way to strengthen my aura & soul out of foundation meditation or energy meditation I’m still here at the bottom I been trying and trying I only seen auras a couple of times from birds I even seen aura lines,
I am open minded too the point I am constantly getting abuse about different sources starseeds and other things I come across I come across a lot of information where I am at
And it seems some of y’all don’t know that I don’t know
We talking about this and that but Satan never ever came to me not even my guardian demon I ask for them nothing
I constantly see on this forum on blacks for Satan and they slander us
Also y’all have Jews in here how the hell is that even possible
Hoodedcobra how did y’all even came across to put this information on the site on the internet if
It’s forbidden???
I read the forum for motivation but I see hate among ss people fighting
Calling people dumb and etc we are fucking ss we not stranger well we is but not
I’m father and mother eyes
So why do this to other ss
Y’all need to figure out who really ss in this forum
If not they have a inside job person in here
Y’all got powers use them
Y’all can read
Matter fact y’all can ask Satan about me he could tell y’all who I am even the enemies know who I am obviously why you think the enemy don’t want me to advance
The only one that is limiting you is yourself and only yourself, because not one of your posts have ever been coherent. If you want help why don't you just ask for it? Instead of wasting this forum's space with your gibberish comments that often make it seem you're on drugs?
BE RESPECTFUL, BE HONEST, and there will be no reason for us to doubt you and respond negatively to you.
Where would you be if instead of your slander you had asked for help? You would be a much better person. Stop wasting time.
See now you think I am on drugs and I don’t do that I been asking for help why would you help me since can anybody help me
"Help me help me help me" Help yourself. You want everything on a silver platter, but this isn't high school where all the answers can be cheated off of or googled. You're taking the path to literally become a god and you complain that it's difficult. Of course it's difficult, keep going. This is an individual path, yet you complain that others are not validating you. This is a path of empowerment of the self, but you're here begging others to empower you. What you need is self awareness. Let me ask you, when was the last time you've asked how you can help us?Cosmic6999 said:Aquarius said:Mate, how about you just do some self examination and be honest with yourself, how many years have you wasted, and how many more are you gonna waste with your baseless claims?Cosmic6999 said:No I’m calling on what I am reading on the forum
How they say this and that others think it’s a religion and what advice have people gave me explain to me??
Besides the 40 day program I did that and nothing
I ask people what’s the best way to strengthen my aura & soul out of foundation meditation or energy meditation I’m still here at the bottom I been trying and trying I only seen auras a couple of times from birds I even seen aura lines,
I am open minded too the point I am constantly getting abuse about different sources starseeds and other things I come across I come across a lot of information where I am at
And it seems some of y’all don’t know that I don’t know
We talking about this and that but Satan never ever came to me not even my guardian demon I ask for them nothing
I constantly see on this forum on blacks for Satan and they slander us
Also y’all have Jews in here how the hell is that even possible
Hoodedcobra how did y’all even came across to put this information on the site on the internet if
It’s forbidden???
I read the forum for motivation but I see hate among ss people fighting
Calling people dumb and etc we are fucking ss we not stranger well we is but not
I’m father and mother eyes
So why do this to other ss
Y’all need to figure out who really ss in this forum
If not they have a inside job person in here
Y’all got powers use them
Y’all can read
Matter fact y’all can ask Satan about me he could tell y’all who I am even the enemies know who I am obviously why you think the enemy don’t want me to advance
The only one that is limiting you is yourself and only yourself, because not one of your posts have ever been coherent. If you want help why don't you just ask for it? Instead of wasting this forum's space with your gibberish comments that often make it seem you're on drugs?
BE RESPECTFUL, BE HONEST, and there will be no reason for us to doubt you and respond negatively to you.
Where would you be if instead of your slander you had asked for help? You would be a much better person. Stop wasting time.
See now you think I am on drugs and I don’t do that I been asking for help why would you help me since can anybody help me
Pretty much, yeah. Try and see how it goes. Adjust if needed.AsraArdwulfLeberecht said:Greetings! How are Demon names to be vibrated? Each letter as it's pronounced for Runes?
Darkspirit said:I have a question by the way, how can a member who has been here for several years asking basic questions like: what is body and soul, ect. these are among the first things you learn ... I don't understand. :?: :!:
I read somewhere that this Loki guy was actually magesonOl argedco luciftias said:Darkspirit said:I have a question by the way, how can a member who has been here for several years asking basic questions like: what is body and soul, ect. these are among the first things you learn ... I don't understand. :?: :!:
I am not saying if this is definitely the situation with this guy, but there are people who do this on purpose.
The perfect example of this was Loki88. He would ask the stupidest questions every day for years. And we wasted many hours answering him and trying to help him, but no matter how much we explained he was never able to understand anything, not even the very simple and basic things. Because it was never about understanding.
He was an infiltrator, he hated us, and his entire goal was to completely destroy us. And the way he tried to do this was by purposefully wasting everybody's time. Every moment we waste trying to help him is a moment we are not helping somebody else who actually needs it. And he would also spread a lot of insane things, but pretend that they were questions. Just purposefully trying to confuse as many people as possible so they would follow it and be ruined.
Ol argedco luciftias said:Darkspirit said:I have a question by the way, how can a member who has been here for several years asking basic questions like: what is body and soul, ect. these are among the first things you learn ... I don't understand. :?: :!:
I am not saying if this is definitely the situation with this guy, but there are people who do this on purpose.
The perfect example of this was Loki88. He would ask the stupidest questions every day for years. And we wasted many hours answering him and trying to help him, but no matter how much we explained he was never able to understand anything, not even the very simple and basic things. Because it was never about understanding.
He was an infiltrator, he hated us, and his entire goal was to completely destroy us. And the way he tried to do this was by purposefully wasting everybody's time. Every moment we waste trying to help him is a moment we are not helping somebody else who actually needs it. And he would also spread a lot of insane things, but pretend that they were questions. Just purposefully trying to confuse as many people as possible so they would follow it and be ruined.
AsraArdwulfLeberecht said:
I understand what you say but then why is it written on the website that the accuracy gets better in years, and that anything can be practically revealed? Wouldn't someone say such things if after some time, the pendulum did always react accurately?
Serbon said:I read somewhere that this Loki guy was actually mageson
AsraArdwulfLeberecht said:Someone gave me a book, the "sacred astrology from Elendiar, of the obscure elves, Corpus Elendiaricum" supposedly talking about the Black Sun and Kiron. It sounds like new age bullshit, I haven't opened it yet, just googled it to see if I'm wasting my time and almost no results show. Only one book : "solomonary astrology" and in this case I'm throwing it away.
Do you know anything about this "Corpus Elendiaricum"?
Henu the Great said:Most effectively, and safely? Well, you would need to practice your focus firstly as that has a great deal of impact on how you perform in this regard. Being obsessive about certain thoughts is not good, but I do not know excatly by how much so I can't comment on that. What I can say is that you should heal your condition as that is a hindrance and simply do your best.
The picture is like a reference point, and you would not be directing energy into the picture or frame, but to the person you are referring in the picture unless you are specifically willing energy to go into the frame. (Don't do that)It would help a great deal to be in a trance state, or at least very relaxed. Work your skills little by little. You can ask you Guardian for assistance and as your skills increase this help can and will be reduced. When you evoke runes you should clean yourself not only before, but also afterwards. Transferring dross after cleaning is another matter, as you have already cleaned yourself. Having basic routine consisting with daily cleaning etc. should keep you safe from harmful events in most cases. Sometimes routine has to be increased to meet increased demands. Lastly, when you are done do not obsess over this process. Simply let it be and don't mind it as doing so would hinder or ruin the process.
You should learn how to trance, this article explains why:88HungarianSatanicWarrior666 said:This is about Satanic hypnosis,but I can't do it because I can't even go into trance because my meditation and concentration skills are so bad.
Source: JoS Newsletter 2008-2009 Sermons and Important MessagesHigh Priestess Maxine Dietrich said:When one encounters problems and obstacles, one should go to the bottom of this and every night before going to sleep, affirm 20-30 times when relaxed, for example: "I have perfect concentration."
Other affirmations for example- "I am always highly motivated and I always meditate every day", “I always have time to do quality meditations", “I am able to enter deep trances easily" you get the general idea. Remember, affirmations should always be in the present tense because the subconscious mind and
soul do not have a time frame such as in the future tense "will" happen. Always make your affirmations in the present tense.
Before sleeping, affirmations should be done some 25-30 times for 40 days straight.
Ol argedco luciftias said:I'm just saying that is unnecessary because you could find other ways to get accurate answers, much easier and in a much smaller amount of time.
This could really have been one for the bookmarks.Academic Scholar said:You should learn how to trance, this article explains why:88HungarianSatanicWarrior666 said:This is about Satanic hypnosis,but I can't do it because I can't even go into trance because my meditation and concentration skills are so bad.
The Benefits of Trance by Lydia
https://archive.ph/Q0ckL
https://web.archive.org/web/20220621141532/https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=74755&p=367714
That's what I'm going to use, only when I say this affirmation, I'm going to add Runa,x10Sowilo and x10Eihwaz to give plus strength to all this.Eihwaz protects me from difficulties and Sowilo gives strength to all this.Academic Scholar said:You could use this method to get into trances more easily:
Source: JoS Newsletter 2008-2009 Sermons and Important MessagesHigh Priestess Maxine Dietrich said:When one encounters problems and obstacles, one should go to the bottom of this and every night before going to sleep, affirm 20-30 times when relaxed, for example: "I have perfect concentration."
Other affirmations for example- "I am always highly motivated and I always meditate every day", “I always have time to do quality meditations", “I am able to enter deep trances easily" you get the general idea. Remember, affirmations should always be in the present tense because the subconscious mind and
soul do not have a time frame such as in the future tense "will" happen. Always make your affirmations in the present tense.
Before sleeping, affirmations should be done some 25-30 times for 40 days straight.
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No, but it might weaken it a bit. Don't worry, you have plenty of opportunities to make up for it.Dark Lawyer said:Thanks!
I asked my Guardian Demon to help me control the energy. Good job, I managed to get the slag on target without a picture. Then I tried it with the picture on the tablet and it was easier.
I think I exaggerate when I talk about the OECD. Since I have been SS, it has improved a lot. But for now, at my current level of development, it is sufficient to send the slag to the target person after cleaning.
And I'm happy to report that I'm now doing the Killing Tetragrammaton after FRTR, as you advised earlier.The only days I don't have an evening FRTR are days when I work 11-12 hours for 2 or 3 consecutive days. Yesterday I accidentally said one letter 7 times instead of 6. Did that invalidate the whole KT?
You could simply do Retuning Curses 1&2 on this person as that is a beginner friendly option. This constitutes as cleaning and protection, not solely as "giving energy", but perhaps that is what you meant?And one more question. I want to start cleaning/protecting a person important to me and my cat. For example, the person has been given "energy" by a chiropractor, which I don't know what kind of energy it is. For me, as a not very experienced SS, what is the easiest and most effective way to give enough energy to both the person and my cat, and still have enough energy for me?
No, because it would be very difficult to remember excact things done, say, after two or three years, plus all the affirmations and other details that are good to keep track of.AsraArdwulfLeberecht said:Greetings. Is there any page on the JoS that addresses the use of plants for medicinal/wellbeing purposes (I mean other than magickal workings)? I read a book about this but it slanders witches so the rest of the info may also be corrupted.
Second, I've read in the Spiritual Warfare Training Manual that it's recommended to keep a journal, to keep track of meditations and relate important points. What's the benefit of that? If we kept journals for our daily meditation routine, for our spiritual warfare, for our rituals, our astrology sessions, and whatever other projects we undergo, we'd spend more time writing than practicing. Is it really useful for some of them? If yes, which? Wouldn't intense focus and active involvement in what we're doing replace formal writing of it?
"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan