Welcome to our New Forums!

Our forums have been upgraded and expanded!

An argument with atheist has got me thinking..

aorta4hiphop

New member
Joined
Oct 15, 2011
Messages
1
Brothers & Sisters, I was bombarded with beliefs contradicting those of my own by my atheist brother and his girlfriend. It's got me thinking bad thoughts, and they made a point; all religions contradict the other ones, and brainwash those who are looking to improve their lives into believing a lie. So why wouldn't this be any different? I don't want it to be true, and I still wear my pentagram, but I need to speak with father Satan, if I am to continue spreading the word to the world of his existence. Please, if anyone has any expeirience with Enki, and how they've made contact him, or if you just have something to say.. Please do. Thankyou all!
 
Even if the Gods didn't exist we would still be the truth, like I said the teachings and spiritual techniques are real, they do empower your soul, you can see the effects if you try them and read the scientific research on kundalini yoga and other things which are real. Like I said, these are what we're mainly for, advancing our souls, the Gods are mostly here to guide us on our quest to Godhood.

Seriously, it's pretty annoying when people think of us as we're like christianity where all we have to do is pray in a xian way and depend on Satan all the time and follow rules or blindly believe what others say. We're not about that, and one should have to read everything in the site to see what we're about.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

Exactly, that's an atheist's logical fault here, they repeat the same ignorant closeminded nonsense. Satanism is not a religion in the same way others are, we're more like a spiritual science and there are no mediators, it's based on our personal research and experiences. We're not about obeying rules or believing something you haven't experienced, you don't have to do that at all. You're encouraged to open your astral senses and communicate with Satan directly. And the main thing here is empowering our souls with power meditation and hatha yoga, raising the kundalini e.t.c. That's exactly what we're for. Did you tell the atheists that same thing? Did you show them the JoS site?Read my replies to jeremy's posts about the "inner circle", it explains everything.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aorta4hiphop" <jcgrego@ wrote:

Brothers & Sisters, I was bombarded with beliefs contradicting those of my own by my atheist brother and his girlfriend. It's got me thinking bad thoughts, and they made a point; all religions contradict the other ones, and brainwash those who are looking to improve their lives into believing a lie. So why wouldn't this be any different? I don't want it to be true, and I still wear my pentagram, but I need to speak with father Satan, if I am to continue spreading the word to the world of his existence. Please, if anyone has any expeirience with Enki, and how they've made contact him, or if you just have something to say.. Please do. Thankyou all!
 
Question to ask your brother: "All mainstream religious people are close-minded and dismiss everything that isn't of their religion without even studying it. So how does this make you different when you make a STUPID generalization and dismiss it WITHOUT EVEN BOTHERING TO STUDY AND SEE WHAT WE'RE ABOUT?"

He's a poor example to make to prove that atheism is not a religion, because his thinking is pretty close minded and "religious" to me, i.e. dismissing anything that he doesn't believe in without even study8ing it. No seriously, HE is the one who needs to study if he wants to back up his generalizing statement, because making a generalization is pretty serious thing and you have to prove yourself. Especially if he considers us a "religion" in the same way as the others who claim to be religions.

This is pretty stupid too:

"and brainwash those who are looking to improve their lives "

Again if he did bother to look at most mainstream religions, they have nothing to do with improving your life. Most of them are about making a miserable life and obeying stupid and strict rules but you're rewarded in the afterlife. They're about the afterlife, not this life. And that's why we're the opposite of them. Xianity is about going to heaven, hinduism is about liberation after death, buddhism the same thing e.t.c.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aorta4hiphop" <jcgrego@... wrote:

Brothers & Sisters, I was bombarded with beliefs contradicting those of my own by my atheist brother and his girlfriend. It's got me thinking bad thoughts, and they made a point; all religions contradict the other ones, and brainwash those who are looking to improve their lives into believing a lie. So why wouldn't this be any different? I don't want it to be true, and I still wear my pentagram, but I need to speak with father Satan, if I am to continue spreading the word to the world of his existence. Please, if anyone has any expeirience with Enki, and how they've made contact him, or if you just have something to say.. Please do. Thankyou all!
 
Athe[/IMG]</var>      
From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 1:05:04 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: An argument with atheist has got me thinking..

  Question to ask your brother: "All mainstream religious people are close-minded and dismiss everything that isn't of their religion without even studying it. So how does this make you different when you make a STUPID generalization and dismiss it WITHOUT EVEN BOTHERING TO STUDY AND SEE WHAT WE'RE ABOUT?"

He's a poor example to make to prove that atheism is not a religion, because his thinking is pretty close minded and "religious" to me, i.e. dismissing anything that he doesn't believe in without even study8ing it. No seriously, HE is the one who needs to study if he wants to back up his generalizing statement, because making a generalization is pretty serious thing and you have to prove yourself. Especially if he considers us a "religion" in the same way as the others who claim to be religions.

This is pretty stupid too:

"and brainwash those who are looking to improve their lives "

Again if he did bother to look at most mainstream religions, they have nothing to do with improving your life. Most of them are about making a miserable life and obeying stupid and strict rules but you're rewarded in the afterlife. They're about the afterlife, not this life. And that's why we're the opposite of them. Xianity is about going to heaven, hinduism is about liberation after death, buddhism the same thing e.t.c.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aorta4hiphop" <jcgrego@... wrote:

Brothers & Sisters, I was bombarded with beliefs contradicting those of my own by my atheist brother and his girlfriend. It's got me thinking bad thoughts, and they made a point; all religions contradict the other ones, and brainwash those who are looking to improve their lives into believing a lie. So why wouldn't this be any different? I don't want it to be true, and I still wear my pentagram, but I need to speak with father Satan, if I am to continue spreading the word to the world of his existence. Please, if anyone has any expeirience with Enki, and how they've made contact him, or if you just have something to say.. Please do. Thankyou all!

 
<td val[/IMG]ok you ask if anybody so here goes mine.I bought thye Satanic Bible and read it first,then I looked online to find a ritual I could perform to dedicate.It was from a site that is not SS,but I didn't understand the truth then.Next I performed a pact( again not knowing what the fuck I was doing)and then I heard voices say"you are ours now,we will protect you".So after that I got involved with another group that was not SS,and I learned of JoS from one of my emails.Not even sure which one.

So Father and the Gods did honor my poor excuse for a dedication,and I learned something that our clergy has always said,that it is not necessary to do another dedication,even when you understand the truth.Because when I joined this group,I did another dedication and nothing happened.Then my GD told my that even though I did a pact to Enki because I didn't know what I was doing,Enki still honored the first one as being the original dedication.I say all that to get newbi's to understand that it really is your heart and motives that Enki looks at,not the ritual or the way it was done.

Hail Enki
Brian 

--- On Sun, 4/29/12, aorta4hiphop <jcgrego@... wrote:
From: aorta4hiphop <jcgrego@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] An argument with atheist has got me thinking..
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 12:42 PM

  Brothers & Sisters, I was bombarded with beliefs contradicting those of my own by my atheist brother and his girlfriend. It's got me thinking bad thoughts, and they made a point; all religions contradict the other ones, and brainwash those who are looking to improve their lives into believing a lie. So why wouldn't this be any different? I don't want it to be true, and I still wear my pentagram, but I need to speak with father Satan, if I am to continue spreading the word to the world of his existence. Please, if anyone has any expeirience with Enki, and how they've made contact him, or if you just have something to say.. Please do. Thankyou all!
[/TD]
 
"all religions contradict the other ones, and brainwash those who are looking to improve their lives into believing a lie. So why wouldn't this be any different?"
First and foremost...to improve our lives and selves to our fullest potential is the main goal of SS, to become the best we can spiritually, mentally and physically. Atheists can only become the best in one category: physically. Mentally, they can only go so far until they reach a point of ignorance when believing xtianity is nothing more than a illogical myth (rather than a program) and that the spiritual is nothing but nonsense. Spiritually, speaks for itself.
(Notice how other religions say others are wrong while theirs is right...but only because it contradicts their teachings)
The following, though most of us already know, you can share with your atheist friends...
Your query, though innocent, can easily be disproved by a simple visit to our homepage (Notice how other religions say others are wrong while theirs is right...but only because it contradicts their teachings): Spiritual Satanism strongly advocates all learning, knowledge, inquiry, and free thought. Spiritual Satanism supports the separation of church and state. Satanists do not push Satanism or prosyletize. Spiritual Satanists acknowledge science and believe everything of the occult/supernatural to have a rational scientific explanation. We believe humanity has been held back dangerously in this area due to the hoax of Judeo/Christianity and its relentless attacks upon science for centuries. Spiritual Satanism is a life loving religion. Satan accepts us as we are, but guides us to advance ourselves to where we evolve to a higher level. Spiritual Satanists are free to live their lives as they choose- responsibility to the responsible. We live by natural law and encourage everyone to develop themselves to their fullest extent. The Judeo/Christian religion is a vicious hoax on humanity of catastrophic proportions. For a hoax to succeed there has to be a lack of knowledge on the part of the victim. The Christian religion and its cohorts actively suppress knowledge and free thought, encourage people to be slaves, and never advocate or teach anything for the betterment or advancement of humanity. Spiritual Satanism advocates individuality, liberty, and independence. It is obvious that Satan is not the "deceiver of humanity." His followers have been few in number and he doesn't need copious amounts of wealth, power and control to keep his followers.
 
Hey Bro, think about the reasons why and what propelled you in your "Dedication" in the first place.not only in term of a metaphysical sense, to me a Spiritual Satanism dedication also comprises an act of committing yourself towards learning coupled with discreet and adequate research of course as well as applying Satanic knowledge. Obtain more Satanic knowledge in order to remove doubts.Stand up on your belief in Spiritual Satanism!Throughout our journey we learn to become more self reliant.
Bro, you've just got multiple shots by the opinions of others without,By absorbing more True Satanic knowledge, you acquire your armor/bulletproof vest. Application of the knowledge is your weapon.
Try focusing on what's required as in daily power meditations.Most importantly, build your trust in Satan by learning more about Spiritual Satanism.

From: aorta4hiphop <jcgrego@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 8:42 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] An argument with atheist has got me thinking..

  Brothers & Sisters, I was bombarded with beliefs contradicting those of my own by my atheist brother and his girlfriend. It's got me thinking bad thoughts, and they made a point; all religions contradict the other ones, and brainwash those who are looking to improve their lives into believing a lie. So why wouldn't this be any different? I don't want it to be true, and I still wear my pentagram, but I need to speak with father Satan, if I am to continue spreading the word to the world of his existence. Please, if anyone has any expeirience with Enki, and how they've made contact him, or if you just have something to say.. Please do. Thankyou all!



 
I'm of the mindset that "liberalism" takes the mentality of xianity and feeds it to athiests in a non religious way. Thus these people are never actually free from xianity and ultimately jewry.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Don Danko <mageson6666@... wrote:

Atheism is a reaction to the current situation, and as such is in many cases very reactionary in its mentality. And when we enter into ideological atheism, foolish in some areas where it butts heads with xian dogma, but wishes to keep the same dogma just without jewsus. And generally too caught up in wishful thinking of some of its mainstream leaders like Dawkin's who don't seem to understand what he pushes for in his books will lead to down the road, is not the worldview he wishes for. And its generally pointless to build a identity around what you don't believe in. But as mentioned this is the reactionary attitude which forms ideological atheism. And the jews are all over it making sure it stays false opposition to xianity and related programs.
 
As for the first poster this is the problem when you become lazy and complacent there is a world of wealth of infomation on the JoS and JoS related sites and Newletter egroup. That if you had studied it. You would not be sitting there in shock, twittling your thumbs after losing the most basic to win debate in history. And then coming back and asking people to spoon feed you a quick answer because your too lazy to study and have a daily meditation program. That is a xian attitude.
 
The fact is if such a non debate has put you into such a state. Just me giving you a quick answer is meaningless because its not addressing the core issue here. Go forth and study everything mentioned and then if you have any questions return and ask them. Also have a daily power meditation program.
 
 
 


________________________________
From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 1:05:04 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: An argument with atheist has got me thinking..


 
Question to ask your brother: "All mainstream religious people are close-minded and dismiss everything that isn't of their religion without even studying it. So how does this make you different when you make a STUPID generalization and dismiss it WITHOUT EVEN BOTHERING TO STUDY AND SEE WHAT WE'RE ABOUT?"

He's a poor example to make to prove that atheism is not a religion, because his thinking is pretty close minded and "religious" to me, i.e. dismissing anything that he doesn't believe in without even study8ing it. No seriously, HE is the one who needs to study if he wants to back up his generalizing statement, because making a generalization is pretty serious thing and you have to prove yourself. Especially if he considers us a "religion" in the same way as the others who claim to be religions.

This is pretty stupid too:

"and brainwash those who are looking to improve their lives "

Again if he did bother to look at most mainstream religions, they have nothing to do with improving your life. Most of them are about making a miserable life and obeying stupid and strict rules but you're rewarded in the afterlife. They're about the afterlife, not this life. And that's why we're the opposite of them. Xianity is about going to heaven, hinduism is about liberation after death, buddhism the same thing e.t.c.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aorta4hiphop" <jcgrego@ wrote:

Brothers & Sisters, I was bombarded with beliefs contradicting those of my own by my atheist brother and his girlfriend. It's got me thinking bad thoughts, and they made a point; all religions contradict the other ones, and brainwash those who are looking to improve their lives into believing a lie. So why wouldn't this be any different? I don't want it to be true, and I still wear my pentagram, but I need to speak with father Satan, if I am to continue spreading the word to the world of his existence. Please, if anyone has any expeirience with Enki, and how they've made contact him, or if you just have something to say.. Please do. Thankyou all!
 
Liberalism is the adaptation of xianity to fit our current society. The jews know that xianity is loosing it's grip, so they try to feed its teachings to people in other ways, such as liberalism, new age, wicca e.t.c. They always have a variant of xianity for each case.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kvnfidler" <kvnfidler@... wrote:


I'm of the mindset that "liberalism" takes the mentality of xianity and feeds it to athiests in a non religious way. Thus these people are never actually free from xianity and ultimately jewry.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Don Danko <mageson6666@ wrote:

Atheism is a reaction to the current situation, and as such is in many cases very reactionary in its mentality. And when we enter into ideological atheism, foolish in some areas where it butts heads with xian dogma, but wishes to keep the same dogma just without jewsus. And generally too caught up in wishful thinking of some of its mainstream leaders like Dawkin's who don't seem to understand what he pushes for in his books will lead to down the road, is not the worldview he wishes for. And its generally pointless to build a identity around what you don't believe in. But as mentioned this is the reactionary attitude which forms ideological atheism. And the jews are all over it making sure it stays false opposition to xianity and related programs.
 
As for the first poster this is the problem when you become lazy and complacent there is a world of wealth of infomation on the JoS and JoS related sites and Newletter egroup. That if you had studied it. You would not be sitting there in shock, twittling your thumbs after losing the most basic to win debate in history. And then coming back and asking people to spoon feed you a quick answer because your too lazy to study and have a daily meditation program. That is a xian attitude.
 
The fact is if such a non debate has put you into such a state. Just me giving you a quick answer is meaningless because its not addressing the core issue here. Go forth and study everything mentioned and then if you have any questions return and ask them. Also have a daily power meditation program.
 
 
 


________________________________
From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 1:05:04 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: An argument with atheist has got me thinking..


 
Question to ask your brother: "All mainstream religious people are close-minded and dismiss everything that isn't of their religion without even studying it. So how does this make you different when you make a STUPID generalization and dismiss it WITHOUT EVEN BOTHERING TO STUDY AND SEE WHAT WE'RE ABOUT?"

He's a poor example to make to prove that atheism is not a religion, because his thinking is pretty close minded and "religious" to me, i.e. dismissing anything that he doesn't believe in without even study8ing it. No seriously, HE is the one who needs to study if he wants to back up his generalizing statement, because making a generalization is pretty serious thing and you have to prove yourself. Especially if he considers us a "religion" in the same way as the others who claim to be religions.

This is pretty stupid too:

"and brainwash those who are looking to improve their lives "

Again if he did bother to look at most mainstream religions, they have nothing to do with improving your life. Most of them are about making a miserable life and obeying stupid and strict rules but you're rewarded in the afterlife. They're about the afterlife, not this life. And that's why we're the opposite of them. Xianity is about going to heaven, hinduism is about liberation after death, buddhism the same thing e.t.c.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aorta4hiphop" <jcgrego@ wrote:

Brothers & Sisters, I was bombarded with beliefs contradicting those of my own by my atheist brother and his girlfriend. It's got me thinking bad thoughts, and they made a point; all religions contradict the other ones, and brainwash those who are looking to improve their lives into believing a lie. So why wouldn't this be any different? I don't want it to be true, and I still wear my pentagram, but I need to speak with father Satan, if I am to continue spreading the word to the world of his existence. Please, if anyone has any expeirience with Enki, and how they've made contact him, or if you just have something to say.. Please do. Thankyou all!
 
I did tell them that!! But their responses were, "all religion is brainwashing" nd shit.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

Even if the Gods didn't exist we would still be the truth, like I said the teachings and spiritual techniques are real, they do empower your soul, you can see the effects if you try them and read the scientific research on kundalini yoga and other things which are real. Like I said, these are what we're mainly for, advancing our souls, the Gods are mostly here to guide us on our quest to Godhood.

Seriously, it's pretty annoying when people think of us as we're like christianity where all we have to do is pray in a xian way and depend on Satan all the time and follow rules or blindly believe what others say. We're not about that, and one should have to read everything in the site to see what we're about.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

Exactly, that's an atheist's logical fault here, they repeat the same ignorant closeminded nonsense. Satanism is not a religion in the same way others are, we're more like a spiritual science and there are no mediators, it's based on our personal research and experiences. We're not about obeying rules or believing something you haven't experienced, you don't have to do that at all. You're encouraged to open your astral senses and communicate with Satan directly. And the main thing here is empowering our souls with power meditation and hatha yoga, raising the kundalini e.t.c. That's exactly what we're for. Did you tell the atheists that same thing? Did you show them the JoS site?Read my replies to jeremy's posts about the "inner circle", it explains everything.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aorta4hiphop" <jcgrego@ wrote:

Brothers & Sisters, I was bombarded with beliefs contradicting those of my own by my atheist brother and his girlfriend. It's got me thinking bad thoughts, and they made a point; all religions contradict the other ones, and brainwash those who are looking to improve their lives into believing a lie. So why wouldn't this be any different? I don't want it to be true, and I still wear my pentagram, but I need to speak with father Satan, if I am to continue spreading the word to the world of his existence. Please, if anyone has any expeirience with Enki, and how they've made contact him, or if you just have something to say.. Please do. Thankyou all!
 
Then there is pretty much nothing you can do about that, just ignore them. It's exactly the same as talking to a fundie xian, whatever you tell them they'll say that we're "evil" and be like "LA LA LA I'm not listening". These people are just like fundie xians but instead of saying "all other religions are of the devil" they say "all religion is brainwashing".

A characteristic of being brainwashed is being close minded, and it's your brother and his gf who display that, not us. It sounds to me they are the brainwashed ones, they repeat the same "mantra" without any sense of reason or logic or taking a look at our site at all.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aorta4hiphop" <jcgrego@... wrote:

I did tell them that!! But their responses were, "all religion is brainwashing" nd shit.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

Even if the Gods didn't exist we would still be the truth, like I said the teachings and spiritual techniques are real, they do empower your soul, you can see the effects if you try them and read the scientific research on kundalini yoga and other things which are real. Like I said, these are what we're mainly for, advancing our souls, the Gods are mostly here to guide us on our quest to Godhood.

Seriously, it's pretty annoying when people think of us as we're like christianity where all we have to do is pray in a xian way and depend on Satan all the time and follow rules or blindly believe what others say. We're not about that, and one should have to read everything in the site to see what we're about.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

Exactly, that's an atheist's logical fault here, they repeat the same ignorant closeminded nonsense. Satanism is not a religion in the same way others are, we're more like a spiritual science and there are no mediators, it's based on our personal research and experiences. We're not about obeying rules or believing something you haven't experienced, you don't have to do that at all. You're encouraged to open your astral senses and communicate with Satan directly. And the main thing here is empowering our souls with power meditation and hatha yoga, raising the kundalini e.t.c. That's exactly what we're for. Did you tell the atheists that same thing? Did you show them the JoS site?Read my replies to jeremy's posts about the "inner circle", it explains everything.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aorta4hiphop" <jcgrego@ wrote:

Brothers & Sisters, I was bombarded with beliefs contradicting those of my own by my atheist brother and his girlfriend. It's got me thinking bad thoughts, and they made a point; all religions contradict the other ones, and brainwash those who are looking to improve their lives into believing a lie. So why wouldn't this be any different? I don't want it to be true, and I still wear my pentagram, but I need to speak with father Satan, if I am to continue spreading the word to the world of his existence. Please, if anyone has any expeirience with Enki, and how they've made contact him, or if you just have something to say.. Please do. Thankyou all!
 
..Hail Satan!! Nice, I like this one too--
"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means...."
the Al Jilwah
{not like tens upon thousand of buybulls shoved in people's faces and that stinking koran, who unknowingly are praising the creators of these books--the jew.}

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Alex Seville <devillian413@... wrote:

"all religions contradict the other ones, and brainwash those who are
looking to improve their lives into believing a lie. So why wouldn't this
be any different?"

First and foremost...to improve our lives and selves to our fullest
potential is the main goal of SS, to become the best we can spiritually,
mentally and physically. Atheists can only become the best in one category:
physically.
Mentally, they can only go so far until they reach a point of ignorance
when believing xtianity is nothing more than a illogical myth (rather than
a program) and that the spiritual is nothing but nonsense.
Spiritually, speaks for itself.

(Notice how other religions say others are wrong while theirs is
right...but only because it contradicts their teachings)

The following, though most of us already know, you can share with your
atheist friends...

Your query, though innocent, can easily be disproved by a simple visit to
our homepage (Notice how other religions say others are wrong while theirs
is right...but only because it contradicts their teachings):

Spiritual Satanism strongly advocates all learning, knowledge, inquiry, and
free thought.

Spiritual Satanism supports the separation of church and state. Satanists
do not push Satanism or prosyletize.

Spiritual Satanists acknowledge science and believe everything of the
occult/supernatural to have a rational scientific explanation. We believe
humanity has been held back dangerously in this area due to the hoax of
Judeo/Christianity and its relentless attacks upon science for centuries.

Spiritual Satanism is a life loving religion. Satan accepts us as we are,
but guides us to advance ourselves to where we evolve to a higher level.
Spiritual Satanists are free to live their lives as they choose-
responsibility to the responsible. We live by natural law and encourage
everyone to develop themselves to their fullest extent.

The Judeo/Christian religion is a vicious hoax on humanity of catastrophic
proportions. For a hoax to succeed there has to be a lack of knowledge on
the part of the victim. The Christian religion and its cohorts actively
suppress knowledge and free thought, encourage people to be slaves, and
never advocate or teach anything for the betterment or advancement of
humanity.

Spiritual Satanism advocates individuality, liberty, and independence.

It is obvious that Satan is not the "deceiver of humanity." His followers
have been few in number and he doesn't need copious amounts of wealth,
power and control to keep his followers.
 
Athiest seem to have it all together...much of what they say does seem to make sense, some of it does have truths.

Aorta4hiphop,.....I tried the athiesm thought for about a month...literally, because I couldn't get over the FACT that I have ALWAYS KNOWN there are other beings in the cosmos, and I am a BEING, I HAVE A SOUL. I have memories of a few lifetimes. I have communicated with the Gods, seen Enki in a blessed vision given after I dedicated to him.

If/when you open yourself astrally, you will begin to notice that there is MORE to this universe, then just the PHYSICAL. We as humans have been given the gift of consciousness of ourselves, (by the gods themselves) and the other worlds around us. That seperates us from the other animals on this planet. Even in science, astronomy, there is "dark matter" that permeates 80% of our universe. 80% of this universe is a MYSTERY, even scientist don't have the answers.

I can't prove to you you have a soul. That is something you must do for yourself.

hailz

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

Question to ask your brother: "All mainstream religious people are close-minded and dismiss everything that isn't of their religion without even studying it. So how does this make you different when you make a STUPID generalization and dismiss it WITHOUT EVEN BOTHERING TO STUDY AND SEE WHAT WE'RE ABOUT?"

He's a poor example to make to prove that atheism is not a religion, because his thinking is pretty close minded and "religious" to me, i.e. dismissing anything that he doesn't believe in without even study8ing it. No seriously, HE is the one who needs to study if he wants to back up his generalizing statement, because making a generalization is pretty serious thing and you have to prove yourself. Especially if he considers us a "religion" in the same way as the others who claim to be religions.

This is pretty stupid too:

"and brainwash those who are looking to improve their lives "

Again if he did bother to look at most mainstream religions, they have nothing to do with improving your life. Most of them are about making a miserable life and obeying stupid and strict rules but you're rewarded in the afterlife. They're about the afterlife, not this life. And that's why we're the opposite of them. Xianity is about going to heaven, hinduism is about liberation after death, buddhism the same thing e.t.c.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aorta4hiphop" <jcgrego@ wrote:

Brothers & Sisters, I was bombarded with beliefs contradicting those of my own by my atheist brother and his girlfriend. It's got me thinking bad thoughts, and they made a point; all religions contradict the other ones, and brainwash those who are looking to improve their lives into believing a lie. So why wouldn't this be any different? I don't want it to be true, and I still wear my pentagram, but I need to speak with father Satan, if I am to continue spreading the word to the world of his existence. Please, if anyone has any expeirience with Enki, and how they've made contact him, or if you just have something to say.. Please do. Thankyou all!
 
Thank you all for your replies, I take what you say very seriously, and I aim to continue in evolving my spirituality and my relationship with Satan.
Hail him!
And hail all of you too ! <3
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

Liberalism is the adaptation of xianity to fit our current society. The jews know that xianity is loosing it's grip, so they try to feed its teachings to people in other ways, such as liberalism, new age, wicca e.t.c. They always have a variant of xianity for each case.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kvnfidler" <kvnfidler@ wrote:


I'm of the mindset that "liberalism" takes the mentality of xianity and feeds it to athiests in a non religious way. Thus these people are never actually free from xianity and ultimately jewry.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Don Danko <mageson6666@ wrote:

Atheism is a reaction to the current situation, and as such is in many cases very reactionary in its mentality. And when we enter into ideological atheism, foolish in some areas where it butts heads with xian dogma, but wishes to keep the same dogma just without jewsus. And generally too caught up in wishful thinking of some of its mainstream leaders like Dawkin's who don't seem to understand what he pushes for in his books will lead to down the road, is not the worldview he wishes for. And its generally pointless to build a identity around what you don't believe in. But as mentioned this is the reactionary attitude which forms ideological atheism. And the jews are all over it making sure it stays false opposition to xianity and related programs.
 
As for the first poster this is the problem when you become lazy and complacent there is a world of wealth of infomation on the JoS and JoS related sites and Newletter egroup. That if you had studied it. You would not be sitting there in shock, twittling your thumbs after losing the most basic to win debate in history. And then coming back and asking people to spoon feed you a quick answer because your too lazy to study and have a daily meditation program. That is a xian attitude.
 
The fact is if such a non debate has put you into such a state. Just me giving you a quick answer is meaningless because its not addressing the core issue here. Go forth and study everything mentioned and then if you have any questions return and ask them. Also have a daily power meditation program.
 
 
 


________________________________
From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 1:05:04 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: An argument with atheist has got me thinking..


 
Question to ask your brother: "All mainstream religious people are close-minded and dismiss everything that isn't of their religion without even studying it. So how does this make you different when you make a STUPID generalization and dismiss it WITHOUT EVEN BOTHERING TO STUDY AND SEE WHAT WE'RE ABOUT?"

He's a poor example to make to prove that atheism is not a religion, because his thinking is pretty close minded and "religious" to me, i.e. dismissing anything that he doesn't believe in without even study8ing it. No seriously, HE is the one who needs to study if he wants to back up his generalizing statement, because making a generalization is pretty serious thing and you have to prove yourself. Especially if he considers us a "religion" in the same way as the others who claim to be religions.

This is pretty stupid too:

"and brainwash those who are looking to improve their lives "

Again if he did bother to look at most mainstream religions, they have nothing to do with improving your life. Most of them are about making a miserable life and obeying stupid and strict rules but you're rewarded in the afterlife. They're about the afterlife, not this life. And that's why we're the opposite of them. Xianity is about going to heaven, hinduism is about liberation after death, buddhism the same thing e.t.c.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aorta4hiphop" <jcgrego@ wrote:

Brothers & Sisters, I was bombarded with beliefs contradicting those of my own by my atheist brother and his girlfriend. It's got me thinking bad thoughts, and they made a point; all religions contradict the other ones, and brainwash those who are looking to improve their lives into believing a lie. So why wouldn't this be any different? I don't want it to be true, and I still wear my pentagram, but I need to speak with father Satan, if I am to continue spreading the word to the world of his existence. Please, if anyone has any expeirience with Enki, and how they've made contact him, or if you just have something to say.. Please do. Thankyou all!
 
Yeah that's a better way of saying it, sorry it was early and I was still on my first cup of coffee. You got what I was saying though

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

Liberalism is the adaptation of xianity to fit our current society. The jews know that xianity is loosing it's grip, so they try to feed its teachings to people in other ways, such as liberalism, new age, wicca e.t.c. They always have a variant of xianity for each case.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kvnfidler" <kvnfidler@ wrote:


I'm of the mindset that "liberalism" takes the mentality of xianity and feeds it to athiests in a non religious way. Thus these people are never actually free from xianity and ultimately jewry.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Don Danko <mageson6666@ wrote:

Atheism is a reaction to the current situation, and as such is in many cases very reactionary in its mentality. And when we enter into ideological atheism, foolish in some areas where it butts heads with xian dogma, but wishes to keep the same dogma just without jewsus. And generally too caught up in wishful thinking of some of its mainstream leaders like Dawkin's who don't seem to understand what he pushes for in his books will lead to down the road, is not the worldview he wishes for. And its generally pointless to build a identity around what you don't believe in. But as mentioned this is the reactionary attitude which forms ideological atheism. And the jews are all over it making sure it stays false opposition to xianity and related programs.
 
As for the first poster this is the problem when you become lazy and complacent there is a world of wealth of infomation on the JoS and JoS related sites and Newletter egroup. That if you had studied it. You would not be sitting there in shock, twittling your thumbs after losing the most basic to win debate in history. And then coming back and asking people to spoon feed you a quick answer because your too lazy to study and have a daily meditation program. That is a xian attitude.
 
The fact is if such a non debate has put you into such a state. Just me giving you a quick answer is meaningless because its not addressing the core issue here. Go forth and study everything mentioned and then if you have any questions return and ask them. Also have a daily power meditation program.
 
 
 


________________________________
From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 1:05:04 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: An argument with atheist has got me thinking..


 
Question to ask your brother: "All mainstream religious people are close-minded and dismiss everything that isn't of their religion without even studying it. So how does this make you different when you make a STUPID generalization and dismiss it WITHOUT EVEN BOTHERING TO STUDY AND SEE WHAT WE'RE ABOUT?"

He's a poor example to make to prove that atheism is not a religion, because his thinking is pretty close minded and "religious" to me, i.e. dismissing anything that he doesn't believe in without even study8ing it. No seriously, HE is the one who needs to study if he wants to back up his generalizing statement, because making a generalization is pretty serious thing and you have to prove yourself. Especially if he considers us a "religion" in the same way as the others who claim to be religions.

This is pretty stupid too:

"and brainwash those who are looking to improve their lives "

Again if he did bother to look at most mainstream religions, they have nothing to do with improving your life. Most of them are about making a miserable life and obeying stupid and strict rules but you're rewarded in the afterlife. They're about the afterlife, not this life. And that's why we're the opposite of them. Xianity is about going to heaven, hinduism is about liberation after death, buddhism the same thing e.t.c.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aorta4hiphop" <jcgrego@ wrote:

Brothers & Sisters, I was bombarded with beliefs contradicting those of my own by my atheist brother and his girlfriend. It's got me thinking bad thoughts, and they made a point; all religions contradict the other ones, and brainwash those who are looking to improve their lives into believing a lie. So why wouldn't this be any different? I don't want it to be true, and I still wear my pentagram, but I need to speak with father Satan, if I am to continue spreading the word to the world of his existence. Please, if anyone has any expeirience with Enki, and how they've made contact him, or if you just have something to say.. Please do. Thankyou all!
 
If one looks at liberalism its the core doctrine of Communism. Communism is just an economy modality to appeal to the conditions of the industrial period built within liberalism. That is why scholars have noted Weishaupt is the father of Communism not Marx. The liberalism of the jewish "illuminati" was the base for the jewish fueled "French" revolution the Jacobin's where the bolsheviks of their day. Liberalism is just another extentsion of political jewism. The jew saw the European's where moving towards a more secular state along with the scientific revolution and a desire for more individual freedoms and rights after chaffing under the yoke of the church and xianity for centuries. So they didn't try and stop the pendulm swing they just jumped aboard and sent their agents into the mix.   The power of jewism is its ability to adapt new strains like any virus.   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JoSNewsletter/message/290   Liberalism is Christianity without the Christ

William Gayley Simpson's Which Way Western Man?

Revilo Oliver

[My note "liberalism" as mentioned is secular [unconscious] xianity, this
doctrine was phased [jewed]in during the enlightenment period to keep this
program going as Europe was breaking free of xianity on many levels. This
doctrine is what the jews centered their illuminati doctrine around which was
later repackaged into an economic modality to appeal to the resentments of the
industrial era and called "Communism" and later repackaged as cultural marxism
but always the same old program at the core. Just listen to a liberal yak its
the same values as the cultural marxist [or xian] without the giga long
political lingoism. We are seeing the morphing of xianity into pure Communism.ie
Secular xianity. Communism always pushes on a liberal appeal because the core of
Communism is literally the doctrine of liberalism [secular xianity] framed into
a economic model. The police state and slaughter comes once the jews have
centralized power and then the later stage of their formula they drop the mask,
wipe out the Gentile usefool idiots and idealists who have served their purpose
and before they can become jaded and turn on the hand that lead them [and the
jews don't share power]. Leaving only the jews at the top and the Goyium slaves
at the bottom the way it was always planned behind the door.
Communism/liberalism is unconscious xianity and can only work where xianity has
planted the seed. Final proof is America had a full on cultural marxist
revolution in the sixties under xian-liberal rhetoric, American flag in one hand
the bible in the other:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JoSNewsletter/message/243 ]


Quote:
The other apostates I have mentioned, and many that are now forgotten, together
with almost all of the anti-Christians of recent centuries, exemplify the
operation of what may be called the law of cultural residues. In all civilized
societies, when a long-established and generally accepted belief is found to be
incredible, good minds abandon it, but they commonly retain derivative beliefs
that were originally deduced from the creed they have rejected and logically
must depend on it. Thus it happened that modern enemies of Christianity rejected
the mythology, but uncritically retained faith in the social and ethical
superstitions derived from it — a faith which they oddly call rational but hold
with a religious fervor.

They laugh at the silly story about Adam and his spare rib, but they continue to
believe in a "human race" descended from a single pair of ancestors and hence in
a "brotherhood of man." They speak of "all mankind," giving to the term an
unctuous and mystic meaning with which they do not invest corresponding terms,
such as "all marsupials" or "all ungulates." They prate about the "rights of
man," although a moment's thought should suffice to show that, in the absence of
a decree from a supernatural monarch, there can be no rights other than those
which the citizens of a stable and homogeneous society have, by covenant or
established custom, bestowed on themselves; and that while the citizens may show
kindness to aliens, slaves, and dogs, such beings obviously can have no rights.

They do not believe that one-third of a god became incarnate in the most squalid
region on earth to associate with illiterate peasants, harangue the rabble of a
barbarian race, and magically exalt the ignorant and uncouth to "make folly of
the wisdom of this world," so that "the last shall be first" — that they do not
believe, but they cling to the morbid hatred of superiority that makes
Christians dote on whatever is lowly, inferior, irrational, debased, deformed,
and degenerate.

They gabble about the "sanctity of human life" — especially the vilest forms of
it — without reflecting that it takes a god creator to make something sacred.
And they frantically agitate for a universal "equality" that can be attained
only by reducing all human beings to the level of the lowest, evidently unaware
that they are merely echoing the Christians' oft-expressed yearning to become
sheep (the most stupid of all mammals) herded by a good shepherd, which is
implicit in all the tales of the New Testament, although most bluntly expressed
in another gospel, which reports Jesus as promising that after he has tortured
and butchered the more civilized populations of the earth, there will be a
Resurrection, and his ovine pets will pop out of their graves, all of the same
age, all of the same sex, all of the same stature, and all having
indistinguishable features, so that they will be as identical as the bees in a
swarm.[2]

Although the "Liberal" and Marxist cults have doctrinal differences as great as
those that separate Lutherans from Baptists, they are basically the same
superstition, and whether or not we should call them religions depends on
whether we restrict the word to belief in supernatural persons or extend it to
include all forms of blind faith based on emotional excitement instead of
observed facts and reason. When those "atheistic" cults scream out their hatred
of "Fascists" and "Nazis," they obviously must believe that those wicked persons
are possessed of the Devil and should therefore be converted or exterminated to
pro[/IMG]</var>
fact and reason for unthinking faith in approved fairy stories, their lust to
extirpate evil is as great as that of the Christian mob that dragged the fair
and too intelligent Hypatia from her carriage and lovingly used oyster shells to
scrape the flesh from her bones while she was still alive.

With very few exceptions, the anti-Christians, no doubt unwittingly, retained in
their minds a large part of Christian doctrine, and they even revived the most
poisonous elements of the primitive Bolshevism of Antiquity, which had been
attenuated or held in abeyance by the established churches in the great days of
Christendom. And today, professed atheists do not think it odd that, on all
social questions, they are in substantial agreement with the howling dervishes
and evangelical shamans who, subsidized with lavish publicity by the Organized
Jewry who control the boob-tubes and other means of communication, greedily
participate in the current drive to reduce Americans to total imbecility with
every kind of irrational hoax.





   
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

Liberalism is the adaptation of xianity to fit our current society. The jews know that xianity is loosing it's grip, so they try to feed its teachings to people in other ways, such as liberalism, new age, wicca e.t.c. They always have a variant of xianity for each case.

 --- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kvnfidler" <kvnfidler@ wrote:
 I'm of the mindset that "liberalism" takes the mentality of xianity and feeds it to athiests in a non religious way. Thus these people are never actually free from xianity and ultimately jewry.
 --- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Don Danko <mageson6666@ wrote:
 Atheism is a reaction to the current situation, and as such is in many cases very reactionary in its mentality. And when we enter into ideological atheism, foolish in some areas where it butts heads with xian dogma, but wishes to keep the same dogma just without jewsus. And generally too caught up in wishful thinking of some of its mainstream leaders like Dawkin's who don't seem to understand what he pushes for in his books will lead to down the road, is not the worldview he wishes for. And its generally pointless to build a identity around what you don't believe in. But as mentioned this is the reactionary attitude which forms ideological atheism. And the jews are all over it making sure it stays false opposition to xianity and related programs......

 
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

Back
Top