Agnostic/Atheist wants to meditate, finde demon

[milton_pike]

Howdy! Just to sum things up, I'm a life-long agnostic with atheist leanings. As of late I've taken an interest in Satanism. Though my atheist beliefs keep me from from fully embracing "spiritual" Satanism, the basic tenants of the faith align perfectly with my worldview. And though I am not spiritual, I find the concept of other planes of existence containing what we'd call demons to be very plausible.

So basically, I've been desiring to clear my mind and go into meditation. And I've been very interested in attempting communication with a demon. I have a specific one in mind. My reasons are simply to strengthen and validate aspects of my philosophy that have been flourishing as of late (sorry to be vague, but I'm assuming these matters are to be kept personal?).

As a non-theist I am overwhelmed at the concept of chakras and power meditation. Assuming I just sit in the dark and quiet my mind, am I in any danger if I don't acknowledge the more spiritual aspects of mediation?

And for when I feel ready to attempt contact with my desired demon, would it be considered rude to ignore certain sacraments like candles, incense, and attire? Would it be offensive to the demon to evoke him/her in the nude? As far as I'm concerned, if the heart and mind are well-aligned, everything else falls into place. Would that be correct?

Thanks and I look forward to your thoughts!

 

[radzio_ss]

Yes, you are correct. First and foremost it is what is in our hearts that counts. Things like incense etc. are completely optional. Economy is tough in todays world and Satan understands that. So as long as you are sincere in your desire to join us, then there is nothing to stop you. Props are cool, but they are just items that have little meaning on their own. As for being nude- it is completely natural and not offensive in any way. This is xian mindset.

And yes, you can ignore meditation, but it will be bad for you as meditation raises our energy level and prepares us to stand on our own without need for any crutches. Godhood is the final goal of Satanism and it is achieved through meditation.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "milton_pike" <agent_leeds@... wrote:

Howdy! Just to sum things up, I'm a life-long agnostic with atheist leanings. As of late I've taken an interest in Satanism. Though my atheist beliefs keep me from from fully embracing "spiritual" Satanism, the basic tenants of the faith align perfectly with my worldview. And though I am not spiritual, I find the concept of other planes of existence containing what we'd call demons to be very plausible.

So basically, I've been desiring to clear my mind and go into meditation. And I've been very interested in attempting communication with a demon. I have a specific one in mind. My reasons are simply to strengthen and validate aspects of my philosophy that have been flourishing as of late (sorry to be vague, but I'm assuming these matters are to be kept personal?).

As a non-theist I am overwhelmed at the concept of chakras and power meditation. Assuming I just sit in the dark and quiet my mind, am I in any danger if I don't acknowledge the more spiritual aspects of mediation?

And for when I feel ready to attempt contact with my desired demon, would it be considered rude to ignore certain sacraments like candles, incense, and attire? Would it be offensive to the demon to evoke him/her in the nude? As far as I'm concerned, if the heart and mind are well-aligned, everything else falls into place. Would that be correct?

Thanks and I look forward to your thoughts!

 

[Serpentfire666]

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... iders.html

If you havn't I suggest you read the entire website before doing anything else.
If you have any negative experiences remember not being a dedicated Satanist leaves you wide open to enemy attack when you meditate you open yourself up to another reality. Satan protects His own. Many who have attempted to dabble in rituals, magick and work on the Soul have found out the hard way but end up blaming Satan and Demons for their trouble.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "milton_pike" <agent_leeds@... wrote:

Howdy! Just to sum things up, I'm a life-long agnostic with atheist leanings. As of late I've taken an interest in Satanism. Though my atheist beliefs keep me from from fully embracing "spiritual" Satanism, the basic tenants of the faith align perfectly with my worldview. And though I am not spiritual, I find the concept of other planes of existence containing what we'd call demons to be very plausible.

So basically, I've been desiring to clear my mind and go into meditation. And I've been very interested in attempting communication with a demon. I have a specific one in mind. My reasons are simply to strengthen and validate aspects of my philosophy that have been flourishing as of late (sorry to be vague, but I'm assuming these matters are to be kept personal?).

As a non-theist I am overwhelmed at the concept of chakras and power meditation. Assuming I just sit in the dark and quiet my mind, am I in any danger if I don't acknowledge the more spiritual aspects of mediation?

And for when I feel ready to attempt contact with my desired demon, would it be considered rude to ignore certain sacraments like candles, incense, and attire? Would it be offensive to the demon to evoke him/her in the nude? As far as I'm concerned, if the heart and mind are well-aligned, everything else falls into place. Would that be correct?

Thanks and I look forward to your thoughts!

 

[keeperofstone]

People meditate everyday and they aren't Satanist. Think Buddist. They are close to atheist but they aren't Spiritual Satanist.
No, you don't need candles, or special clothing to meditate, some meditate completely nude, but that could be chilly in the winter.

It's not advisable to try and contact Demons unless you are a Dedicated Satanist as all sorts of things can go wrong. And Yes. protocol does matter in contact, it's different for each of our God's - Goddesses.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "milton_pike" <agent_leeds@... wrote:

Howdy! Just to sum things up, I'm a life-long agnostic with atheist leanings. As of late I've taken an interest in Satanism. Though my atheist beliefs keep me from from fully embracing "spiritual" Satanism, the basic tenants of the faith align perfectly with my worldview. And though I am not spiritual, I find the concept of other planes of existence containing what we'd call demons to be very plausible.

So basically, I've been desiring to clear my mind and go into meditation. And I've been very interested in attempting communication with a demon. I have a specific one in mind. My reasons are simply to strengthen and validate aspects of my philosophy that have been flourishing as of late (sorry to be vague, but I'm assuming these matters are to be kept personal?).

As a non-theist I am overwhelmed at the concept of chakras and power meditation. Assuming I just sit in the dark and quiet my mind, am I in any danger if I don't acknowledge the more spiritual aspects of mediation?

And for when I feel ready to attempt contact with my desired demon, would it be considered rude to ignore certain sacraments like candles, incense, and attire? Would it be offensive to the demon to evoke him/her in the nude? As far as I'm concerned, if the heart and mind are well-aligned, everything else falls into place. Would that be correct?

Thanks and I look forward to your thoughts!

 

[Serpentfire666]

I should clarify, when buhdists, athiests and new agers are meditating they don't have Satan on their mind they are just going along with the corrupted versions believing what they are told and are of no threat to the enemy unless they go too far or start straying away looking for more.
If someone is looking into the reality of Satanism they 'can' have experiences to frighten them away again. I just wanted to mention this it happens. If anything scary or weird happens do your best to ignore it. Maybe nothing much will happen too. It can take quite some time meditating before you notice any effects, being not Spiritual you could be quite closed down astrally too so you won't be as sensitive to energy.
Something I notice too is Satan keeps us motivated, I have heard more than a few times members saying how they slacked off and Satan let them know, signs, reminders, motivation. Those without get lazy and lost some persist on their own and get pretty far but it's less common.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "keeperofstone" <brucekuersteiner@... wrote:

People meditate everyday and they aren't Satanist. Think Buddist. They are close to atheist but they aren't Spiritual Satanist.
No, you don't need candles, or special clothing to meditate, some meditate completely nude, but that could be chilly in the winter.

It's not advisable to try and contact Demons unless you are a Dedicated Satanist as all sorts of things can go wrong. And Yes. protocol does matter in contact, it's different for each of our God's - Goddesses.

Hail Satan


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "milton_pike" <agent_leeds@ wrote:

Howdy! Just to sum things up, I'm a life-long agnostic with atheist leanings. As of late I've taken an interest in Satanism. Though my atheist beliefs keep me from from fully embracing "spiritual" Satanism, the basic tenants of the faith align perfectly with my worldview. And though I am not spiritual, I find the concept of other planes of existence containing what we'd call demons to be very plausible.

So basically, I've been desiring to clear my mind and go into meditation. And I've been very interested in attempting communication with a demon. I have a specific one in mind. My reasons are simply to strengthen and validate aspects of my philosophy that have been flourishing as of late (sorry to be vague, but I'm assuming these matters are to be kept personal?).

As a non-theist I am overwhelmed at the concept of chakras and power meditation. Assuming I just sit in the dark and quiet my mind, am I in any danger if I don't acknowledge the more spiritual aspects of mediation?

And for when I feel ready to attempt contact with my desired demon, would it be considered rude to ignore certain sacraments like candles, incense, and attire? Would it be offensive to the demon to evoke him/her in the nude? As far as I'm concerned, if the heart and mind are well-aligned, everything else falls into place. Would that be correct?

Thanks and I look forward to your thoughts!

 

[Igor Bedzor]

I agree with Serpentfire, and to add up, remember that our meditations are different and much knowledge came from the Gods of Duat. So indirectly you are doing SATANIC MEDITATION. The difference is that you are doing a Satanic Meditation, that by the way are very powerful, without protection.

On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@... wrote:

  I should clarify, when buhdists, athiests and new agers are meditating they don't have Satan on their mind they are just going along with the corrupted versions believing what they are told and are of no threat to the enemy unless they go too far or start straying away looking for more.
If someone is looking into the reality of Satanism they 'can' have experiences to frighten them away again. I just wanted to mention this it happens. If anything scary or weird happens do your best to ignore it. Maybe nothing much will happen too. It can take quite some time meditating before you notice any effects, being not Spiritual you could be quite closed down astrally too so you won't be as sensitive to energy.
Something I notice too is Satan keeps us motivated, I have heard more than a few times members saying how they slacked off and Satan let them know, signs, reminders, motivation. Those without get lazy and lost some persist on their own and get pretty far but it's less common.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "keeperofstone" <brucekuersteiner@... wrote:

People meditate everyday and they aren't Satanist. Think Buddist. They are close to atheist but they aren't Spiritual Satanist.
No, you don't need candles, or special clothing to meditate, some meditate completely nude, but that could be chilly in the winter.

It's not advisable to try and contact Demons unless you are a Dedicated Satanist as all sorts of things can go wrong. And Yes. protocol does matter in contact, it's different for each of our God's - Goddesses.

Hail Satan


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "milton_pike" <agent_leeds@ wrote:

Howdy! Just to sum things up, I'm a life-long agnostic with atheist leanings. As of late I've taken an interest in Satanism. Though my atheist beliefs keep me from from fully embracing "spiritual" Satanism, the basic tenants of the faith align perfectly with my worldview. And though I am not spiritual, I find the concept of other planes of existence containing what we'd call demons to be very plausible.

So basically, I've been desiring to clear my mind and go into meditation. And I've been very interested in attempting communication with a demon. I have a specific one in mind. My reasons are simply to strengthen and validate aspects of my philosophy that have been flourishing as of late (sorry to be vague, but I'm assuming these matters are to be kept personal?).

As a non-theist I am overwhelmed at the concept of chakras and power meditation. Assuming I just sit in the dark and quiet my mind, am I in any danger if I don't acknowledge the more spiritual aspects of mediation?

And for when I feel ready to attempt contact with my desired demon, would it be considered rude to ignore certain sacraments like candles, incense, and attire? Would it be offensive to the demon to evoke him/her in the nude? As far as I'm concerned, if the heart and mind are well-aligned, everything else falls into place. Would that be correct?

Thanks and I look forward to your thoughts!

 

[milton_pike]

Thanks all for the thoughts.

Indeed though I identify as agnostic/atheist, I agree with many of Satanism's philosophies, so who knows? Maybe I will choose to go down that path.

I think as far as meditation goes, I will do my own personal reflection, perhaps taking in techniques to guard me from negative influence, and if I find a draw towards something I will follow it.

And yes, I've read quite a bit of the Joy of Satan website, though when I approached the power meditation section, well that's what spurned my post. One step at a time, I suppose.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Igor Bedzor <igorbedzor@... wrote:

I agree with Serpentfire, and to add up, remember that our meditations are
different and much knowledge came from the Gods of Duat. So indirectly you
are doing SATANIC MEDITATION. The difference is that you are doing a
Satanic Meditation, that by the way are very powerful, without protection.

On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Serpentfire666 <[email protected]:

**


I should clarify, when buhdists, athiests and new agers are meditating
they don't have Satan on their mind they are just going along with the
corrupted versions believing what they are told and are of no threat to the
enemy unless they go too far or start straying away looking for more.
If someone is looking into the reality of Satanism they 'can' have
experiences to frighten them away again. I just wanted to mention this it
happens. If anything scary or weird happens do your best to ignore it.
Maybe nothing much will happen too. It can take quite some time meditating
before you notice any effects, being not Spiritual you could be quite
closed down astrally too so you won't be as sensitive to energy.
Something I notice too is Satan keeps us motivated, I have heard more than
a few times members saying how they slacked off and Satan let them know,
signs, reminders, motivation. Those without get lazy and lost some persist
on their own and get pretty far but it's less common.

Hail Satan


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "keeperofstone" <brucekuersteiner@
wrote:

People meditate everyday and they aren't Satanist. Think Buddist. They
are close to atheist but they aren't Spiritual Satanist.
No, you don't need candles, or special clothing to meditate, some
meditate completely nude, but that could be chilly in the winter.

It's not advisable to try and contact Demons unless you are a Dedicated
Satanist as all sorts of things can go wrong. And Yes. protocol does matter
in contact, it's different for each of our God's - Goddesses.

Hail Satan


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "milton_pike" <agent_leeds@
wrote:

Howdy! Just to sum things up, I'm a life-long agnostic with atheist
leanings. As of late I've taken an interest in Satanism. Though my atheist
beliefs keep me from from fully embracing "spiritual" Satanism, the basic
tenants of the faith align perfectly with my worldview. And though I am not
spiritual, I find the concept of other planes of existence containing what
we'd call demons to be very plausible.

So basically, I've been desiring to clear my mind and go into
meditation. And I've been very interested in attempting communication with
a demon. I have a specific one in mind. My reasons are simply to strengthen
and validate aspects of my philosophy that have been flourishing as of late
(sorry to be vague, but I'm assuming these matters are to be kept
personal?).

As a non-theist I am overwhelmed at the concept of chakras and power
meditation. Assuming I just sit in the dark and quiet my mind, am I in any
danger if I don't acknowledge the more spiritual aspects of mediation?

And for when I feel ready to attempt contact with my desired demon,
would it be considered rude to ignore certain sacraments like candles,
incense, and attire? Would it be offensive to the demon to evoke him/her in
the nude? As far as I'm concerned, if the heart and mind are well-aligned,
everything else falls into place. Would that be correct?

Thanks and I look forward to your thoughts!

 

[hailbelphagor]

Someone else here mentioned it already, how if you're not a dedicated Satanist, attempting contact could go wrong.

Might I make a friendly suggestion?

If you're not a dedicated Satanist, before attempting contact, I'd recommend you first ask yourself, honestly, "Is Satanism right for me?"

And, be ready to get an answer! Be open to signs, noticing "little" things, and certain, sudden realizations "out-of-the-blue."

I'd hate to see something bad happen to a fellow Gentile. So, please consider taking the correct route, if you're serious about looking into this at all.

I too once believed myself an atheist. So I understand the need for evidence to believe. It's not "wrong" of you to need evidence to believe. That's just the lie told to others by jews/xtians/muslims. They demand blind faith. Their nasty, thought-form god requires slavish worship.

But not Father Satan. He understands. So, ask yourself.

Hail Satan and ALL of the true Gods!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "milton_pike" <agent_leeds@... wrote:

Thanks all for the thoughts.

Indeed though I identify as agnostic/atheist, I agree with many of Satanism's philosophies, so who knows? Maybe I will choose to go down that path.

I think as far as meditation goes, I will do my own personal reflection, perhaps taking in techniques to guard me from negative influence, and if I find a draw towards something I will follow it.

And yes, I've read quite a bit of the Joy of Satan website, though when I approached the power meditation section, well that's what spurned my post. One step at a time, I suppose.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Igor Bedzor <igorbedzor@ wrote:

I agree with Serpentfire, and to add up, remember that our meditations are
different and much knowledge came from the Gods of Duat. So indirectly you
are doing SATANIC MEDITATION. The difference is that you are doing a
Satanic Meditation, that by the way are very powerful, without protection.

On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@wrote:

**


I should clarify, when buhdists, athiests and new agers are meditating
they don't have Satan on their mind they are just going along with the
corrupted versions believing what they are told and are of no threat to the
enemy unless they go too far or start straying away looking for more.
If someone is looking into the reality of Satanism they 'can' have
experiences to frighten them away again. I just wanted to mention this it
happens. If anything scary or weird happens do your best to ignore it.
Maybe nothing much will happen too. It can take quite some time meditating
before you notice any effects, being not Spiritual you could be quite
closed down astrally too so you won't be as sensitive to energy.
Something I notice too is Satan keeps us motivated, I have heard more than
a few times members saying how they slacked off and Satan let them know,
signs, reminders, motivation. Those without get lazy and lost some persist
on their own and get pretty far but it's less common.

Hail Satan


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "keeperofstone" <brucekuersteiner@
wrote:

People meditate everyday and they aren't Satanist. Think Buddist. They
are close to atheist but they aren't Spiritual Satanist.
No, you don't need candles, or special clothing to meditate, some
meditate completely nude, but that could be chilly in the winter.

It's not advisable to try and contact Demons unless you are a Dedicated
Satanist as all sorts of things can go wrong. And Yes. protocol does matter
in contact, it's different for each of our God's - Goddesses.

Hail Satan


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "milton_pike" <agent_leeds@
wrote:

Howdy! Just to sum things up, I'm a life-long agnostic with atheist
leanings. As of late I've taken an interest in Satanism. Though my atheist
beliefs keep me from from fully embracing "spiritual" Satanism, the basic
tenants of the faith align perfectly with my worldview. And though I am not
spiritual, I find the concept of other planes of existence containing what
we'd call demons to be very plausible.

So basically, I've been desiring to clear my mind and go into
meditation. And I've been very interested in attempting communication with
a demon. I have a specific one in mind. My reasons are simply to strengthen
and validate aspects of my philosophy that have been flourishing as of late
(sorry to be vague, but I'm assuming these matters are to be kept
personal?).

As a non-theist I am overwhelmed at the concept of chakras and power
meditation. Assuming I just sit in the dark and quiet my mind, am I in any
danger if I don't acknowledge the more spiritual aspects of mediation?

And for when I feel ready to attempt contact with my desired demon,
would it be considered rude to ignore certain sacraments like candles,
incense, and attire? Would it be offensive to the demon to evoke him/her in
the nude? As far as I'm concerned, if the heart and mind are well-aligned,
everything else falls into place. Would that be correct?

Thanks and I look forward to your thoughts!

 

[Allison P]

Yes...what our Brother and others have said is perfectly true. Just
ask yourself. Open your heart, search it, and examine what you find
there. Just be certain that you seek for the right reasons, not just
to prove or debunk or whatever. Father has better things to do than to
prove himself to skeptics. i'm not dissing you, I am just saying.
Satanism is not for everyone, and dabbling is dangerous. Satan does
not lie liars. Give this a read:


http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... bling.html

Hail Father Satan always! Hail Lord Andras! Hail Sorath, the one who burns!

On 3/11/13, hailbelphagor <no.state@... wrote:
Someone else here mentioned it already, how if you're not a dedicated
Satanist, attempting contact could go wrong.

Might I make a friendly suggestion?

If you're not a dedicated Satanist, before attempting contact, I'd recommend
you first ask yourself, honestly, "Is Satanism right for me?"

And, be ready to get an answer! Be open to signs, noticing "little" things,
and certain, sudden realizations "out-of-the-blue."

I'd hate to see something bad happen to a fellow Gentile. So, please
consider taking the correct route, if you're serious about looking into this
at all.

I too once believed myself an atheist. So I understand the need for evidence
to believe. It's not "wrong" of you to need evidence to believe. That's just
the lie told to others by jews/xtians/muslims. They demand blind faith.
Their nasty, thought-form god requires slavish worship.

But not Father Satan. He understands. So, ask yourself.

Hail Satan and ALL of the true Gods!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "milton_pike" <agent_leeds@...
wrote:

Thanks all for the thoughts.

Indeed though I identify as agnostic/atheist, I agree with many of
Satanism's philosophies, so who knows? Maybe I will choose to go down that
path.

I think as far as meditation goes, I will do my own personal reflection,
perhaps taking in techniques to guard me from negative influence, and if I
find a draw towards something I will follow it.

And yes, I've read quite a bit of the Joy of Satan website, though when I
approached the power meditation section, well that's what spurned my post.
One step at a time, I suppose.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Igor Bedzor <igorbedzor@ wrote:

I agree with Serpentfire, and to add up, remember that our meditations
are
different and much knowledge came from the Gods of Duat. So indirectly
you
are doing SATANIC MEDITATION. The difference is that you are doing a
Satanic Meditation, that by the way are very powerful, without
protection.

On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@wrote:

**


I should clarify, when buhdists, athiests and new agers are
meditating
they don't have Satan on their mind they are just going along with
the
corrupted versions believing what they are told and are of no threat
to the
enemy unless they go too far or start straying away looking for more.
If someone is looking into the reality of Satanism they 'can' have
experiences to frighten them away again. I just wanted to mention this
it
happens. If anything scary or weird happens do your best to ignore
it.
Maybe nothing much will happen too. It can take quite some time
meditating
before you notice any effects, being not Spiritual you could be quite
closed down astrally too so you won't be as sensitive to energy.
Something I notice too is Satan keeps us motivated, I have heard more
than
a few times members saying how they slacked off and Satan let them
know,
signs, reminders, motivation. Those without get lazy and lost some
persist
on their own and get pretty far but it's less common.

Hail Satan


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "keeperofstone"
<brucekuersteiner@
wrote:

People meditate everyday and they aren't Satanist. Think Buddist.
They
are close to atheist but they aren't Spiritual Satanist.
No, you don't need candles, or special clothing to meditate, some
meditate completely nude, but that could be chilly in the winter.

It's not advisable to try and contact Demons unless you are a
Dedicated
Satanist as all sorts of things can go wrong. And Yes. protocol does
matter
in contact, it's different for each of our God's - Goddesses.

Hail Satan


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "milton_pike" <agent_leeds@
wrote:

Howdy! Just to sum things up, I'm a life-long agnostic with
atheist
leanings. As of late I've taken an interest in Satanism. Though my
atheist
beliefs keep me from from fully embracing "spiritual" Satanism, the
basic
tenants of the faith align perfectly with my worldview. And though I
am not
spiritual, I find the concept of other planes of existence containing
what
we'd call demons to be very plausible.

So basically, I've been desiring to clear my mind and go into
meditation. And I've been very interested in attempting communication
with
a demon. I have a specific one in mind. My reasons are simply to
strengthen
and validate aspects of my philosophy that have been flourishing as of
late
(sorry to be vague, but I'm assuming these matters are to be kept
personal?).

As a non-theist I am overwhelmed at the concept of chakras and
power
meditation. Assuming I just sit in the dark and quiet my mind, am I in
any
danger if I don't acknowledge the more spiritual aspects of
mediation?

And for when I feel ready to attempt contact with my desired
demon,
would it be considered rude to ignore certain sacraments like
candles,
incense, and attire? Would it be offensive to the demon to evoke
him/her in
the nude? As far as I'm concerned, if the heart and mind are
well-aligned,
everything else falls into place. Would that be correct?

Thanks and I look forward to your thoughts!

 

[Damien Blackheart]

If you are agnostic to any degree whatsoever, no matter how miniscule it may be, then that means you do in fact acknowledge that there is other life greater than humans in the universe. If you abandon the xian conception of "god" and "Satan", and you look at it from a more logical angle, it might become easier to see who Satan really is. I am sure the more atheist side of you is aware that it is both ignorant and arrogant to think that humans are the only intelligent lifeforms in the entire universe. Look at science, archeology, history, ancient civilizations... the proof of knowledge and existence of beings far greater than us is in abundance. Its 2000 years of that whole stupid "god" thing that has brainwashed people into relinquishing their logical and rational thinking. Demons very much DO exist, and they are a race, just as humans are a race. They are just FAR more advanced than us and possess way more power than we do. I definitely suggest listening to what everyone has told you. Study the JoS site very thoroughly, and THEN make a decision. If you decide to do this hap-hazardly, then proceed with caution and be prepared for any repurcussions. Satanism and Demons are not about "faith" and certainly not about amusement or proving anything. If you choose to dedicate and follow the wonderous journey down the Left Hand Path, then I congratulate you in advance. HAIL SATAN!!!

On Mar 11, 2013 12:45 PM, "Allison P" <apocalypseofjon@... wrote:

  Yes...what our Brother and others have said is perfectly true. Just
ask yourself. Open your heart, search it, and examine what you find
there. Just be certain that you seek for the right reasons, not just
to prove or debunk or whatever. Father has better things to do than to
prove himself to skeptics. i'm not dissing you, I am just saying.
Satanism is not for everyone, and dabbling is dangerous. Satan does
not lie liars. Give this a read:

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... bling.html

Hail Father Satan always! Hail Lord Andras! Hail Sorath, the one who burns!

On 3/11/13, hailbelphagor <no.state@... wrote:
Someone else here mentioned it already, how if you're not a dedicated
Satanist, attempting contact could go wrong.

Might I make a friendly suggestion?

If you're not a dedicated Satanist, before attempting contact, I'd recommend
you first ask yourself, honestly, "Is Satanism right for me?"

And, be ready to get an answer! Be open to signs, noticing "little" things,
and certain, sudden realizations "out-of-the-blue."

I'd hate to see something bad happen to a fellow Gentile. So, please
consider taking the correct route, if you're serious about looking into this
at all.

I too once believed myself an atheist. So I understand the need for evidence
to believe. It's not "wrong" of you to need evidence to believe. That's just
the lie told to others by jews/xtians/muslims. They demand blind faith.
Their nasty, thought-form god requires slavish worship.

But not Father Satan. He understands. So, ask yourself.

Hail Satan and ALL of the true Gods!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "milton_pike" <agent_leeds@...
wrote:

Thanks all for the thoughts.

Indeed though I identify as agnostic/atheist, I agree with many of
Satanism's philosophies, so who knows? Maybe I will choose to go down that
path.

I think as far as meditation goes, I will do my own personal reflection,
perhaps taking in techniques to guard me from negative influence, and if I
find a draw towards something I will follow it.

And yes, I've read quite a bit of the Joy of Satan website, though when I
approached the power meditation section, well that's what spurned my post.
One step at a time, I suppose.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Igor Bedzor <igorbedzor@ wrote:

I agree with Serpentfire, and to add up, remember that our meditations
are
different and much knowledge came from the Gods of Duat. So indirectly
you
are doing SATANIC MEDITATION. The difference is that you are doing a
Satanic Meditation, that by the way are very powerful, without
protection.

On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@wrote:

**


I should clarify, when buhdists, athiests and new agers are
meditating
they don't have Satan on their mind they are just going along with
the
corrupted versions believing what they are told and are of no threat
to the
enemy unless they go too far or start straying away looking for more.
If someone is looking into the reality of Satanism they 'can' have
experiences to frighten them away again. I just wanted to mention this
it
happens. If anything scary or weird happens do your best to ignore
it.
Maybe nothing much will happen too. It can take quite some time
meditating
before you notice any effects, being not Spiritual you could be quite
closed down astrally too so you won't be as sensitive to energy.
Something I notice too is Satan keeps us motivated, I have heard more
than
a few times members saying how they slacked off and Satan let them
know,
signs, reminders, motivation. Those without get lazy and lost some
persist
on their own and get pretty far but it's less common.

Hail Satan


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "keeperofstone"
<brucekuersteiner@
wrote:

People meditate everyday and they aren't Satanist. Think Buddist.
They
are close to atheist but they aren't Spiritual Satanist.
No, you don't need candles, or special clothing to meditate, some
meditate completely nude, but that could be chilly in the winter.

It's not advisable to try and contact Demons unless you are a
Dedicated
Satanist as all sorts of things can go wrong. And Yes. protocol does
matter
in contact, it's different for each of our God's - Goddesses.

Hail Satan


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "milton_pike" <agent_leeds@
wrote:

Howdy! Just to sum things up, I'm a life-long agnostic with
atheist
leanings. As of late I've taken an interest in Satanism. Though my
atheist
beliefs keep me from from fully embracing "spiritual" Satanism, the
basic
tenants of the faith align perfectly with my worldview. And though I
am not
spiritual, I find the concept of other planes of existence containing
what
we'd call demons to be very plausible.

So basically, I've been desiring to clear my mind and go into
meditation. And I've been very interested in attempting communication
with
a demon. I have a specific one in mind. My reasons are simply to
strengthen
and validate aspects of my philosophy that have been flourishing as of
late
(sorry to be vague, but I'm assuming these matters are to be kept
personal?).

As a non-theist I am overwhelmed at the concept of chakras and
power
meditation. Assuming I just sit in the dark and quiet my mind, am I in
any
danger if I don't acknowledge the more spiritual aspects of
mediation?

And for when I feel ready to attempt contact with my desired
demon,
would it be considered rude to ignore certain sacraments like
candles,
incense, and attire? Would it be offensive to the demon to evoke
him/her in
the nude? As far as I'm concerned, if the heart and mind are
well-aligned,
everything else falls into place. Would that be correct?

Thanks and I look forward to your thoughts!