About Your First Saturn Return [Updated - How To Manage This And The Good News]

[Henu the Great]

The negativity can be greatly dampened with putting eggs in the basket of the 8 fold path and being serious with it. This transit is not the worst thing I've expierenced so far, quite the opposite actually since I am "forced" to put my life on a track where it should be rather than where I "want" it to be. "Want" as the old self is slowly ceasing to be as the new me emerges. This is lots of hard work, but it pays off in ways I can not even think yet. I just know that when things have settled I have much more to offer for the communities that I am part of.

This is some of what I have gathered so far.

 

[Lucius Invictus [NG]]

I still have 4-6 years until then. Can a Saturn transit be completely sublimated if you are bolstered spiritually by 28-30?

Also, off topic, is it true that the age of 33 is a sacred age and typically when one has the best chance at reaching spiritual heights?

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

I have looked at the Saturn return as essentially the time, (the transit that is from the lat 20's to early 30s) where one actually grows up to be an adult for real. Major life changing events or decisions often take place in this transit for better or worse that will either have the individual stagnate or move forward in life. I not only experienced major positive changes and direction in life during my Saturn return such as breaking away from a toxic relationship and dedicating to Satan, but in the late stage Saturn also went retrograde, where I experienced the worse identity crisis in my life that lasted for a while and also manifested a negative situation with my Saturn's house placement, which also turned out to be for a purpose.

Saturn not only makes you grow up by learning cold hard truths, and giving you the endurance to take on life's challenges but it can also kick you down during this transit if you are not prepared. You will most likely especially as an Zevism come out of it better and more mature with some hard knocks behind you at best, or if you are unprepared to handle what comes your way you will stagnate and miss the lessons that come at worst.

Saturn will be in Pisces soon which counts for much of our family here. You may learn the hard way that it is time also to stop letting others walk over you and how life can come back to bite you if you don't learn to say no when appropriate and set proper boundaries. Combine this with your house Saturn is in and you will see where issues may crop up at this time and what you can learn from it, as well how this affects other aspects of your life in relation to aspects to the other planets there may be.

 

[Hailenki.88]

well this just SCARED the shit out of me reading this cause I'm 27 and I already deal with constant anxiety almost all the time so reading this and lately I've been feeling anxiety alot at times to the point thoughts of suicide come up ( which is not an option) and my roommate here is also 27 and he got beat up by someone the other day and he won't tell me why or who but he's been acting very strange and not himself lately and now reading this it all makes sense now
I'll be clinging to the gods like crazy during these times cause all the Christians here have been all acting a little strange now that I think about it wow.. I'm at a loss for words
... ..let's all get through this crazy shit together HAIL SATAN!

 

[Big Dipper]

I feel like Im going to be very nervous around my first return bc of my saturn placement and the number of planets that will be in conjunction and/or being in the same area as my saturn. Still getting my reading done to see what it could all mean and what to watch out for.

 

[tabby]

For those with a first house placed natal Saturn, how will things be different from a normal Saturn return?

 

[Soaring Eagle 666]

Very useful information, thank you. I will prepare well in advance for my first Saturn return.

 

[PinOcchio]

I had some transits including a Pluto transit that made me feel that way, maybe not as severely as a Saturn return; These were days of regrets, crying, but they forced me to face what I needed to fix in my life. If I look back, It was probably the best thing that could have happened to me.

 

[Curious666]

Since many of you are a younger generation of Zevism, those of you around 27-30, might experience within the next years your first Saturn Return. Effects might be already a little felt for some.

You must know, that this is a violent transitory aspect, which, no matter what you have succeeded at, it will come to test it all. It's not a very positive time for a person. Certain other aspects and transits can help you, but this one is still a very tough one.

One must keep in mind, that no matter what they see, they have around as much time as their first Return. This transit can make you feel as you have been useless, done nothing, or all things in your life have been mistakes, bringing with it a lot of other negative events. The house in which Saturn is seated in your Natal Chart, can be indicative on what this is going to hit mostly.

Many people due to lack of life experience, or not understanding how life works, are very quick to judge themselves harshly and negatively. You'll go through hard times in life, that is life.

There are also many people who just run from what is perceived as "negative" or "trying". This aspect will hit hardest on these people, and from there on, it depends on how these people will go about managing this.

Emotional pain, garbage, misfortune, or all sorts of other negativity might be consistent with this transit, and look like it is taking too much on you, same as external events. It's very rare that one experiences this transit without a lot of opposition, so feeling like you are being opposed by the world or very negative, is also likely to happen.

For these transits, one must definitely keep meditating. Accepting Saturn's lessons [not destruction, the LESSONS], can be crucial. For example, Saturn might make you depressed over certain things that you can fix, and you must look behind the causes of said negativity or opposition to try to address it, where this is possible. This transit needs to be made a lesson out of.

One must also bear closely at heart, that the Gods are going to be with you and support you, and that you are not alone in this situation. Additionally, a transit that negative won't occur for at least 7 or 14 years, and the second return will take approximately anywhere from 27 to 30 years. In other words, you have little to worry about after this first transit where Saturn is concerned, and the good times are going to be ahead after this very negative transit leaves you.

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

Thank you for this information High Priest. I might have already faced this. Considering the fact that this year has been the most difficult for me and I have Considered to have learnt and advanced the most through pain and hardship.

How do I learn more about the Saturn Transit? What do I do? I am actually alittle bit scared because I feel like i was to almost die in this period. I really do need to know more about the Saturn Transit.

You mean this Transit is happening/ or has happened? Or will happen? And it lasts for years or months or days?

I am sorry for the many questions, I am curious by nature hence the name; I am NOT lazy just Very very Curious and so if you guide me to the right information/Link, will be glad to learn more on this.

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

well this just SCARED the shit out of me reading this cause I'm 27 and I already deal with constant anxiety almost all the time so reading this and lately I've been feeling anxiety alot at times to the point thoughts of suicide come up ( which is not an option) and my roommate here is also 27 and he got beat up by someone the other day and he won't tell me why or who but he's been acting very strange and not himself lately and now reading this it all makes sense now
I'll be clinging to the gods like crazy during these times cause all the Christians here have been all acting a little strange now that I think about it wow.. I'm at a loss for words
... ..let's all get through this crazy shit together HAIL SATAN!

This should do anything BUT scare you, as it is telling you what to prepare for and what to expect.
Saturn as we speak is about to go retrograde. Doing any necessary workings namely probably the proper planetary squares can also help offset nasty Saturn transits. I suggest everyone look at the house and planet(s) Saturn retro will hit as far as their own charts.

 

[Ramses]

Does this include people outside of that age range i have made a pretty bad decisions lately lost a lot of friends over it and now have experienced what you are talking about playing a lot of crap over in my head from the past mostly kind of helps me to move in a better way though has made me take up a lot of changes in my life for better.

 

[Head Guardian Sophiles Phylax]

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Would you recommend, or have tried, raising energies such as Sun energy, in the form of a Square (even a mediocre sign) or through a regular working, as a means of countering such as transit?

To me, I believe even a small amount of time, like 20 minutes, spent raising energy to directly transmute the transit, would go a long way toward reducing unnecessary stress. Beyond the timeframe of one square, I imagine someone could continue a working for even a very long time throughout this transit, or others.

My question is whether you believe this is worth it or not? I seem to believe it is, but have no direct experience. Yet, you list other activities like keeping clean and empowered, which act indirectly to Saturn, so why not direct action?

Thanks for your sermon.

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

For those with a first house placed natal Saturn, how will things be different from a normal Saturn return?

This would make Saturn the person's cor-uler and so any feelings of inadequacy or depreciation can be much more pronounced as well as phobias and irrational fears especially if there are aspects to the moon or Neptune with 12th house placements.

Accidents or other significantly dangerous things may take place if the opportunity presents itself. People with a first house Saturn having the transitory Saturn hit will probably experience feeling like their lives are falling apart more pronounced than others.

This however does not have to be the case if one knows how to offset this and takes necessary steps. Enemy attacks may also present themselves as the enemy looks for weakness.

With that being said, Increase aura of protection also around this time and cleaning on top of any other workings done to offset negative manifestations. If it becomes unbearable at any time reach out to Satan or your Guardian for help.

When Saturn retrograded back in my natal sign in 2020 there would be times I was literally curled up in a ball in tears, looking at my Guardian's sigil, sometimes for 20 to 30 mins. It helped calm my mind and bite through the chaos and I got signs often of reassurance.

 

[SleepingWolf]

If I didn't know better not to worry, I'd almost be seeing this warning of violent Saturn coming in a few years for me. I had two very violent dreams last night which were a lot more visceral than normal. Usually I have a lot of fun in dreams where I can simulate combat, but these felt very real like life and death.

The first involved being ambushed with family by some spear welding maniac, it was like a completely different era, the buildings looked so old and in the middle of such a beautiful forest like I'd never seen before. It was weirdly exhilarating how raw it felt when I had to fight back and drove a stick through their head, but feeling of the adrenaline wearing off just woke me up, until I could sleep again only for the second dream with a much more violent ending as I was attacked and choked out by two people, and what looked like my head taken off by the second guy while the first had me pinned. I couldn't really get that image or feeling of my own head being disconnected while it was lifted up, for a while until I started the day tired after waking up from that.

I don't think dreams like this have any real meaning, but this reminded me of it, felt like I should just get it out of my head.

 

[Demonic]

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Can a really strong AOP completely negate all Saturn transit and its return?

I have many years till Saturn return, and i m spending 30 minutes each day for AOP and will continue to do that as far as i can see in future.

Building this up for many years won’t it completely negate saturn’s effects?

 

[Sunny]

Can Saturn square for spiritual purposes help with this situation?

 

[Ariadne the Scribe]

For me personally and other people I know, during the Saturn return we all felt like we wanted to do more and were dissatisfied with our current situation, but obstacles kept happening, preventing us from acting.

I personally, during and after my Saturn return, I've started to question what's the purpose of my existence. As things got so hard, instead of trying to find a reason to live and fight for, and keep trying, I just wanted/want to stop fighting alltogether, but I know that death wouldn't solve anything.

It could be Saturn's fault, it could be some hormonal imbalance I'm not aware of that's making me see everything so negatively etc.

I do believe that other people have it so much worse, and I guess I was spoiled and never learned to walk on my two feet. So, an incident that may seem gigantic and torture for me, it may be insignificant for others. Everyone faces their Saturn return differently.

It is true that Saturn makes a person mature into an adult. To those of us who are in denial and don't want to fight, we're just gonna have a hard time facing life.

 

[Niko_is_666]

If someone is below 27 years old, they won't be affected much? Or does it depend on ones natal chart and spiritual progress and workings?
A little confused here.

 

[High Priestess Lydia Coventina]

In addition to HP Zevios Metathronos's advice, many people actually have a very positive Saturn return: getting married, finishing higher education, having their first child, buying their first home, and so on.

One woman I knew, did 3 things within a 10 month period of her Saturn return: got married, bought first house, had a baby.

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

What is the kind of orb one should take for this transit? Close like 2-3 degrees? or wider?

 

[Desdemona_666]

I had one in February last year. Am I the only one here who went through their first Saturn return? I can’t be…

 

[NigredoMax]

Thank you very much for the information HP!
Does someone having their natal Saturn retrograde affect that persons Saturn return in any major way? Not necessarily in a positive or negative way but for how the energies manifest themselves?

Hail Satan!

 

[Wotanwarrior]

I remember that I started as a Satanist just after I passed my first Saturn Return at exactly that age, it was the worst time of my life, I left the gym and started to hang out with bad people and to drink alcohol, when before I always hated alcohol and the night culture of the pubs and I had never drank, I felt empty and without any goal in my life.

 

[Hailenki.88]

well this just SCARED the shit out of me reading this cause I'm 27 and I already deal with constant anxiety almost all the time so reading this and lately I've been feeling anxiety alot at times to the point thoughts of suicide come up ( which is not an option) and my roommate here is also 27 and he got beat up by someone the other day and he won't tell me why or who but he's been acting very strange and not himself lately and now reading this it all makes sense now
I'll be clinging to the gods like crazy during these times cause all the Christians here have been all acting a little strange now that I think about it wow.. I'm at a loss for words
... ..let's all get through this crazy shit together HAIL SATAN!

This should do anything BUT scare you, as it is telling you what to prepare for and what to expect.
Saturn as we speak is about to go retrograde. Doing any necessary workings namely probably the proper planetary squares can also help offset nasty Saturn transits. I suggest everyone look at the house and planet(s) Saturn retro will hit as far as their own charts.

Yea.... I hope your right that some how I get through all of this and I come out
A more mature mentally stronger person. That'd be great thanks for the uplifting words I really needed to read that

 

[Soul Wings]

Well this makes total sense. I've been wondering why particular emotional pain I can usually easily get over normally is sticking around for some reason. I have also been thinking about my future a fair bit but I think that co-incides with my career change.

 

[CandiceLee1313]

Going into my second month with the cleansing and meditation, I have stumbled across past emotions, from my childhood and early teens. And I even get angry because of the situation of each problem. And how i used to be like compaired to the life i am living now. Having a whole new perspective and everything that I have been through! If I would have handled things a lot better as a kid? And wondering what I could have been like as a teenager! If things were a little smoother? I have experienced a lot of emotional pain in this. In the last 3 days into this. I also know that writing down the situation along with meditation! makes it a lot easier to cope with and making it easier for me to map out the problems

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Going into my second month with the cleansing and meditation, I have stumbled across past emotions, from my childhood and early teens. And I even get angry because of the situation of each problem. And how i used to be like compaired to the life i am living now. Having a whole new perspective and everything that I have been through! If I would have handled things a lot better as a kid? And wondering what I could have been like as a teenager! If things were a little smoother? I have experienced a lot of emotional pain in this. In the last 3 days into this. I also know that writing down the situation along with meditation! makes it a lot easier to cope with and making it easier for me to map out the problems

Beautiful. That is the point of meditation. Keep going at it.

 

[Hailenki.88]

Yea I think I freaked out a little to much about this when I first read this
I believe my first Saturn experience was when my whole life got changed in a negative way resulting in me almost losing my life and imay never be the same as I used to be so that's why I when I think of Saturn I think of death and doom and especially VIOLENCE cause thats all i experienced my first time, but after reading all the other opinions on here I see how Saturn can scare someone to change there life for the better and I seriously i did not think Saturn could ever be anything positive for someone's life.... the gods have got me through some of the worse things that could possibly happen to someone
So I believe I'll be fine I just misinterpreted the topic when i first read it

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

Can Saturn square for spiritual purposes help with this situation?

I am thinking of doing one myself. I am wondering if it helps also with deep cleaning as far as related to karma and other hang up issues. There is a lot i want to bring to the surface and deal with. I also want to strengthen the positive aspects of my Saturn

 

[BabySatan]

Hi Guys,
I have felt emotional pain regarding my past memories.I felt worthless whole of my teenage years.Does this mean I was going through a Saturn return at that point of time?I have Saturn positioned in the 7th house due to which I had poor communication skills with people.All the emotional pain has resurfaced after starting meditation 2 months back.

Regards,
BabySatan

 

[Alexander Chiron]

Let's say that I have reached the age of 30 this year , after dedicating in 2016 my whole infrastructure changed , almost all of the people I knew I have discarded them , it's better and I am in more control . It did piss me off sometimes , started drinking strongly for some years , but every day I gained more knowledge until in 2020 I decided to reduce the smoking and the drinking , a process I thought painful but it was more irritating than painful . By now I can say that I don't smoke and avoid drinking . I knew years ago that I was heading to a slow cold turkey , the drinking and smoking was also connected to a social element . I know that the only way for me is by staying isolated and to start working on the satanic workings , I can only describe the feeling as the most clear of all of them , I don't just ,,know'' , I understand in me , in myself , that this is the way forward , because I can take it . Don't know for sure if this was a 6 years Saturn process in discarding all the toxic people around me and the toxins in me , but I feel liberated . I feel darkness in the year 2022 , the first half, the way the world is now in this stage , it should have been better , but I get that it is all part of the plan , I admit that it got to me , for a while in march and april I felt only hate and rage for humanity ,wanted everyone to feel pain , to go down . It went away slowly after Beltane . It is how I expected , the inevitable up and down . I need to master this inevitability , to not get taken by it . Meditation is key .

 

[luis]

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I don't know if this is the right place to post this but I need your help. I'm in a bad situation, I can't explain the whole situation right here because I don't want the enemy to know about this but something happened and right now I'm not in my house and I can't do my full meditation program or a spell to fix this situation. It's definitely my fault because I should have seen that something like this could have happened but for various reasons I did not do the right thing, It probably has to do with Saturn too because it is sexting with a major planet in my chart that has to do with this situation and even Pluto. I don't know a lot about astrology but I can see these aspects. Now I did clean a lot but I have to say my protection was not the best, this situation is complicated and something I have before I even was a Zevism, it has to do with my father.

My questions are these, even if I can't vibrate right now, can I do a lot of kundalini yoga for example to compensate? Or vibrate the mantra's mentally for empowering my chakras and for protection/cleaning?

Another question, I asked a demon to help me with this situation, I did the ritual in Jos but I could not use candles, I just copied the sigil and did the ritual and asked for what I wanted, I even said I will give her something if it helps (100 satanas for 7 days), now my astral senses are not fully open, I only felt the energy. I understand a Demon could be busy or it may take more time to fix the situation (I asked for protection against my father and to end ***** now we are more protected than before because we are somewhere else but the second part still has not happened) what do you think about this? Do you think the Demon is just busy or there may be other reasons or maybe I did something wrong?

PLEASE, answer me, I need it. I understand now that I should have done something before because now I'm lost... I definitely will do much more protection from now on. I'm writing this here because it feels like a Saturn return.

 

[High Priestess Lydia Coventina]

This was wonderful to read, thank you for taking the time to write it

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

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I don't know if this is the right place to post this but I need your help. I'm in a bad situation, I can't explain the whole situation right here because I don't want the enemy to know about this but something happened and right now I'm not in my house and I can't do my full meditation program or a spell to fix this situation. It's definitely my fault because I should have seen that something like this could have happened but for various reasons I did not do the right thing, It probably has to do with Saturn too because it is sexting with a major planet in my chart that has to do with this situation and even Pluto. I don't know a lot about astrology but I can see these aspects. Now I did clean a lot but I have to say my protection was not the best, this situation is complicated and something I have before I even was a Zevism, it has to do with my father.

Sounds like a fated event correlated to Saturn for sure. Saturn in general can bring issues with parents, but also certain authorities in one's life.

My questions are these, even if I can't vibrate right now, can I do a lot of kundalini yoga for example to compensate? Or vibrate the mantra's mentally for empowering my chakras and for protection/cleaning?

Yes, but this cannot be forever, as the stimulation needs to be talked too into vibration. But you CAN, if you are under pressed circumstances, do only Hatha, Pranayama and Kundalini Yoga to stay energetic and strong during this you have to go through.

Another question, I asked a demon to help me with this situation, I did the ritual in Jos but I could not use candles, I just copied the sigil and did the ritual and asked for what I wanted, I even said I will give her something if it helps (100 satanas for 7 days), now my astral senses are not fully open, I only felt the energy. I understand a Demon could be busy or it may take more time to fix the situation (I asked for protection against my father and to end *********** now we are more protected than before because we are somewhere else but the second part still has not happened) what do you think about this? Do you think the Demon is just busy or there may be other reasons or maybe I did something wrong?

The Demon will guide you out of this situation, but you need to follow their "advice", as in the correct thoughts and that type of thing. They will always help you. Being moved away is definitely a sign of help, especially if it happened immediately. Keep an open mind, and if you are being threatened in a very serious manner, might as well call the police even or whatever other measures you might have to take.

PLEASE, answer me, I need it. I understand now that I should have done something before because now I'm lost... I definitely will do much more protection from now on. I'm writing this here because it feels like a Saturn return.

Yes, letting down one's protection is catastrophic. It must not be allowed to happen. I wish you luck and hope I hear a good update from you soon. Stay strong.