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About the Calendar being added in Hall of Osiris, Donations

Are you unabel to read? 1 month pc running => 1 USD or even pc runns 2 month => 1USD. not 1000 USD, one singel dollar.
No, I am not unable to read. The points I raised still stand true. The cost-effectiveness of the scenario you presented is very poor. That is, one loses money while doing it. In a best-case scenario (look up the details, if you are interested), people can make some money each month, with very specific hardware. But then one has to wait for the return of investment, which takes quite some time. The same time and effort put into something else provides tenfold, hundredfold, even thousandfold more return.
It may be hard to believe but in africa for example people get loans for 5-10 euro for example farmers.
Okay, and then one can give one dollar from the said loan to ToZ. Simple.
If the jews are interested in smal bucks so should we.
Sure, mine all you want. But it is not a cost-effective solution in the vast majority of cases. Being realistic, "small bucks" are more accessible to most people in other manners, that is, being productive in a society doing favors to others, and being industrious, or starting a small business, for example. Yes, mining does fit this category, but it has all the pitfalls that I shared above.
People wanted to access the calendar because they want to advance, so I tryed to give a solution if free energy and a old pc is somehow availabel.
People can give one dollar without strange condurums, and have instant access that way. Your scenario has a lot of ifs and complications for no good reason.
There are people who make 300 bucks a month or less, then living expenses is like 200 or more, they have no money at all.
It feels like you think more like, Zevist are all CEOS earn 200k a year, but can´t figure out crypto donations xD
Yes, and these people are unable to put focus and effort into something like XMR mining, which has a ridiculously bad effort-to-reward ratio. Most people do not even know what that is. Our Guardian already shared a superior method above, that is, arbitrage on trading platforms. (There are more methods, of course.) That is quite accessible to those less fortunate and produces more results than the scenario you provided. Nothing to do with western salaries here, simply basic common sense and being realistic.
 
People can give one dollar without strange condurums, and have instant access that way. Your scenario has a lot of ifs and complications for no good reason.

Yes, and these people are unable to put focus and effort into something like XMR mining, which has a ridiculously bad effort-to-reward ratio. Most people do not even know what that is. Our Guardian already shared a superior method above, that is, arbitrage on trading platforms. (There are more methods, of course.) That is quite accessible to those less fortunate and produces more results than the scenario you provided. Nothing to do with western salaries here, simply basic common sense and being realistic.
Easy download, press start running, everybody can do this. Infinite scallabel. You don´t need to care, about how they get energy, the same way we don´t care, how someone has money to donate.
 
Easy download, press start running, everybody can do this. Infinite scallabel. You don´t need to care, about how they get energy, the same way we don´t care, how someone has money to donate.
I know it is easy, but what is easy does not mean it is realistically doable by the masses. Let's be real. I do not need to care about energy, true, but for the sake of argument, I do have to care. Again, let's be realistic. About "infinite scallabel", we also do need to be realistic, as these things cost resources to set up and to maintain. No such thing as infinite exists in this context. You have mentioned scalability multiple times now. I will remind you again that having a job, or a business, or being industrious, or anything of the sort, is manyfold more scalable and profitable (and more useful for society overall) than what you have proposed here.
 
I know it is easy, but what is easy does not mean it is realistically doable by the masses. Let's be real. I do not need to care about energy, true, but for the sake of argument, I do have to care. Again, let's be realistic. About "infinite scallabel", we also do need to be realistic, as these things cost resources to set up and to maintain. No such thing as infinite exists in this context. You have mentioned scalability multiple times now. I will remind you again that having a job, or a business, or being industrious, or anything of the sort, is manyfold more scalable and profitable (and more useful for society overall) than what you have proposed here.
For the sake of argument, everybody can tell somebody get a job -> do a working to get one -> what would be the best starting point in doing so 🧐🧐🧐?

Let´s look at the calendar. Right I can´t, because I live in africa, making barely enouth money with balancing/transporting goods on my head to get by.

Oh look there is a app I can run on my energy subsidized pc, after 2 month I can look at the calendar and start my working.
 
For the sake of argument, everybody can tell somebody get a job -> do a working to get one -> what would be the best starting point in doing so 🧐🧐🧐?

Let´s look at the calendar. Right I can´t, because I live in africa, making barely enouth money with balancing/transporting goods on my head to get by.

Oh look there is a app I can run on my energy subsidized pc, after 2 month I can look at the calendar and start my working.

You are still on about this 1 dollar requirement to get access to the Calendar?

Even some poor people in Africa, when they are willing, can get 1 dollar to donate to get access to the calendar. Hall of Osiris is not for the ultra destitute who cannot even donate 1 god damn dollar and will complain to donate 1 dollar to get access to transcendent and life altering knowledge. If someone is so destitute this is impossible to them, the HoO is not for them. Simple as that.

The poor farmer in Africa, if they have a phone to even access HoO in the first place, they can figure out how to gain 1 dollar to donate and get verified on HoO. Should we provide a phone with our bleeding hearts to all the destitute people who cannot even read the ToZ because they do not have the means for it?

No.

If someone cannot access ToZ because they are too destitute to have the tools required to do so, this is simply by Universal Laws that they are not destined to be part of the Temple of Zeus, too bad for the poor African farmers and people living in the Indian slums, or wherever else, not your destiny to ascend through the Path of the Gods through the means provided by the Temple of Zeus this life along with us, blame your ancestors and your nation for being inferior and underdeveloped to not afford you this destiny.

Reality is harsh and unfair. Crying about it will change nothing.

If we were being ultimately fair here, the calendar would cost at least 100 dollars, minimum. SR's would cost millions of dollars, minimum, and only extremely select few with high resources could access them.

At this point your complaints are simply nonsense.

I will say it again, if someone cannot muster the 1 dollar donation to get verified on HoO and access the basic features and calendar, you are not destined for it. The poor African farmers and many countless other people could not access the Hellenic Pythagorean secrets and knowledge either. Nothing in life is for free or given out of bleeding hearts.

Sucks for them that they are living on a lower octave for the past 10.000 years and did not get to enjoy the fruits of labour and knowledge that we could.

Universal design does not have a bleeding heart.
 
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For the sake of argument, everybody can tell somebody get a job -> do a working to get one -> what would be the best starting point in doing so 🧐🧐🧐?

Let´s look at the calendar. Right I can´t, because I live in africa, making barely enouth money with balancing/transporting goods on my head to get by.

Oh look there is a app I can run on my energy subsidized pc, after 2 month I can look at the calendar and start my working.
Stop playing dumb.
 
For the sake of argument, everybody can tell somebody get a job -> do a working to get one -> what would be the best starting point in doing so 🧐🧐🧐?

Let´s look at the calendar. Right I can´t, because I live in africa, making barely enouth money with balancing/transporting goods on my head to get by.

Oh look there is a app I can run on my energy subsidized pc, after 2 month I can look at the calendar and start my working.
If you are from Africa, you can translate the ToZ to your country’s language, get access to HoO. You’re building and promoting ToZ and are rewarded for it.

Problem solved.
 
The poor African farmers and many countless other people could not access the Hellenic Pythagorean secrets and knowledge either. Nothing in life is for free or given out of bleeding hearts.

Sucks for them that they are living on a lower octave for the past 10.000 years and did not get to enjoy the fruits of labour and knowledge that we could.
What happend to the greeks, egyptians, romans?
They excluded the poor and dump and payed the price by christanity / similar ilk took over.
It´s not about bleeding hearths, it´s about using everything we can. So everyone can have the best future.
I never told anyone to not donate, I just gave an alternative idear / a new extra income for ToZ.
 
Stop playing dumb.
You fight the idear for no reason.
It´s like when I sayed hey guys, would be cool, if we had something in return for donations, like a board where you can see highest doners, or instead your GD.
No we can´t, a few years later we have the HoO.
 
For the sake of argument, everybody can tell somebody get a job -> do a working to get one -> what would be the best starting point in doing so 🧐🧐🧐?

Let´s look at the calendar. Right I can´t, because I live in africa, making barely enouth money with balancing/transporting goods on my head to get by.

Oh look there is a app I can run on my energy subsidized pc, after 2 month I can look at the calendar and start my working.

You have been here for some years.

If I can drag myself, basically disabled, out of bed on the daily to make an income and figure things out and afford the calendar, then this ought to be far easier for you to do.
Not trying to be rude here, but just go and make the money and get it done. If you aren't making enough... well look to solutions.

What country can you go to with better wages near you? How can you up-skill to make more money? How can you develop and evolve as a being to afford this very small minor amount to get the calendar on hall of Osiris? Start what business? Make what product? Figure it out, if you have nothing as you describe you have nothing to lose to begin with, so get creative.

Go through this whole process, and just go fucking do it. Don't give us this defeatism of "I don't make enough and I can't find the starting point." Like what, after being here for many years you can't figure out the proper route to making this happen?

My hands hurt and bleed and I am basically one foot in the grave some days.. if I can muster the money for the calendar, tell me please what is your excuse?

I am DEEPLY tired of this foolishness of "I can't afford muh once free calendar". Like what the fuck guys.. what is wrong with people..?
 
You fight the idear for no reason.
It´s like when I sayed hey guys, would be cool, if we had something in return for donations, like a board where you can see highest doners, or instead your GD.
No we can´t, a few years later we have the HoO.
Actually, I have valid points. Please go through them again if you did not understand them already.
 
I'd like to clarify whether the full calendar for the entire year will be available as before, or just the current month?I'm used to planning my magical work for the entire year at once.
Highly likely at T4, because T4 has received the 2026 and 2027 calendars as a gift when the 2025 calendars were released.
 
Everyone, look at Fuchs's badges: Head Editor, and he has the Honorary Badge for helping the ToZ in a critical time of need. He was speaking hypothetically about trying to help other members gain access to the Calendar, so please refrain from accusing him of being too lazy to do anything.
 
I'd like to clarify whether the full calendar for the entire year will be available as before, or just the current month?I'm used to planning my magical work for the entire year at once.
I think Tier 3 has access to the full year. And the highest tier has something really exciting in regards to the calendar :) (But I think it's supposed to be a secret since it has not been mentioned anywhere yet, so I'll just leave this as a teaser.)
 
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I just can't undestand something. Before the calendars we just looked up on the astro sites.. its not that difficult to do. I know the calendar is easier but it just seems too many here are spoiled.

But if people wants to put 40h a week just to avoid to give 10-20$ @ month to get the calendar and an higher tier (I dont know how much to give to attain T2 + by the way, its just assumption here), I think its a waste of time and ressource. Im sure they are all able to give 1$ a month.
 
But if people wants to put 40h a week just to avoid to give 10-20$ @ month to get the calendar and an higher tier (I dont know how much to give to attain T2 + by the way, its just assumption here), I think its a waste of time and ressource. Im sure they are all able to give 1$ a month.
I agree. I'm just saying that too many are very spoiled by the calendar, before I always did it without. If they really cant donate 1 dollar for whatever selfish reason they can still find a way.
 
Everyone, look at Fuchs's badges: Head Editor, and he has the Honorary Badge for helping the ToZ in a critical time of need. He was speaking hypothetically about trying to help other members gain access to the Calendar, so please refrain from accusing him of being too lazy to do anything.

This is also my bad, I was a bit out of line in how I approached this. I will fix this immediately.
 
@Fuchs I apologize for my lack of understanding, I did not put my thoughts together in the best way and this was disrespectful.

You do not deserve this, I should have held myself to a higher standard and paid a bit more attention. But I did not, and came off like a fool.

I will be a bit more cautious in the future in how I approach these conversations.
 
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