Other #80822 Unhappy about the HOO Prices

[Ask Satya Operator]

Most people can't afford the prices of the higher tier rituals, unless they're willing to put a lot of if not most of what they have into buying some of these rituals as they may feel they need them. It almost feels like gatekeeping, requiring people to be rich to advance spiritually, when a lot if not most people, even in the West but especially outside of it, are struggling financially right now.

The average person who's also fiscally responsible isn't going to buy these. It's almost predatory to make the top purification rituals that expensive while promising they'll essentially end all your problems. Anyone with problems that serious will probably not be able to afford these in their lifetime, or they may spend most if not all they have to get these rituals. I won't go into details obviously, anyone on HOO who's donated can see those for themselves.

Does it really cost that much to maintain a few websites, especially after most got dropped after the new update, and none of the staff are being paid anyway, besides HPZM of course, I could be wrong about this though.

Just wanted to speak out how I felt about the pricing. I'm going to go hustler mode anyway, just to get rich in general but also to afford some of these rituals as I really want them, but the prices aren't pleasant to say the least. On the brighter side it may encourage a lot of Zevists to become hustlers so they can get those rituals, but the odds are most Zevists probably won't do that, and the rituals that'd get rid of all the karmic shit holding them back to help them do that are too expensive for them, which goes back to the gatekeeping point I raised earlier.

 

[Ask Satya Operator]

It makes me wonder about how Ancient Egypt had access to these advanced rituals and yet it fell anyway. The priests, pharaohs and aristocrats more than likely gatekeeped those rituals while the masses fell prey to Izeft over time with no real spiritual weapons to fight back besides the basic stuff, which clearly weren't enough.

I'm sure many priests and pharaohs ascended and became Daemons and even Gods, but Ancient Egypt is gone now, perhaps it may have remained if those purification and anti-Izfet rituals were available to everyone, not for free, but at least decently accesible to the average Egyptian.

I definently do not want to see history repeating itself in this regard. With HOO it could be accessible I guess even for those struggle if they saved up for years/months, depending on how their situation is. Maybe I'm being over-dramatic about it, but it's just a thought that came to me and I wanted to express the possible similarity that I see here.

 

[Khem Nefermed]

Most people can't afford the prices of the higher tier rituals

I can't afford a Lambo either.

unless they're willing to put a lot of if not most of what they have into buying some of these rituals as they may feel they need them

Rest assured, if ToZ finds out someone paid for a Ritual with an amount that will put their livelihood in real peril, starvation level or something like it, they will reject the payment. The price is actually bigger than what is listed, because you also need to have the money be disposable enough (some sacrifice is fine) that paying it won't cripple you. No doing life-threatening loans for it, for example.

requiring people to be rich to advance spiritually

Advancing spiritually eventually makes you rich. Like, are we LARPing the money spells here? Hello?

Does it really cost that much to maintain a few websites, especially after most got dropped after the new update, and none of the staff are being paid anyway, besides HPZM of course, I could be wrong about this though.

Rest assured and sleep easy, HPZM isn't pocketing the money. We are not just "websites", look into what is required to maintain and grow something like this.

The reason for the prices is not just using the money for ToZ though, that's a side bonus. It is a rite of passage of spiritual advancement to gain that money, by getting your life together, making BIG MOVES in real life (what Zevists should do!), and advancing spiritually and materially enough that you are in that position. Hustling, yes.

gatekeeping

Anyone with problems that serious will probably not be able to afford these in their lifetime

Just wanted to speak out how I felt about the pricing

It is indeed gatekeeping, yes, just like how all mystery schools gatekept.
Sacred Rituals aren't to "solve big problems". People with "big problems" especially SHOULDN'T do those Rituals, they are of great magnitude, they should start with what is public and work their way up. "Big problems" are actually solvable with, for example, cleaning. No need to jump to Advanced Purifications if you haven't squeezed a lot out of regular cleaning, which has many levels to it available in ToZ for the public. The ladder of regular public meditations -> Sacred Rituals, progressively, is very well designed for anyone who is putting in the work lifelong. What we do here is serious and it is not play, not "a tradition, going to church on Sunday". It is a task of a lifetime and a task to affect the real world in real ways.

It makes me wonder about how Ancient Egypt had access to these advanced rituals and yet it fell anyway. The priests, pharaohs and aristocrats more than likely gatekeeped those rituals while the masses fell prey to Izeft over time with no real spiritual weapons to fight back besides the basic stuff, which clearly weren't enough.

I'm sure many priests and pharaohs ascended and became Daemons and even Gods, but Ancient Egypt is gone now, perhaps it may have remained if those purification and anti-Izfet rituals were available to everyone, not for free, but at least decently accesible to the average Egyptian.

I definently do not want to see history repeating itself in this regard. With HOO it could be accessible I guess even for those struggle if they saved up for years/months, depending on how their situation is. Maybe I'm being over-dramatic about it, but it's just a thought that came to me and I wanted to express the possible similarity that I see here.

The average farmer in Egypt only had the duty to be a good farmer, and high tier Rituals would not really have meaningfully affected his farming. He was also not spiritually worthy (or in need of) of Divine Protection and would not have handled high level Purifications, for example.
Civilizations collapse, it is natural. What would've happened if, is not a big deal. I'm sure the High Priests of Egypt also thought about this thing you're now thinking about, and concluded that that was the best way to do it.
You also do not realize the ABSOLUTE MAGNITUDE of what "making Rituals available to the average Egyptian" implies. We take for granted today that we all can READ to begin with, but this took CENTURIES, MILLENNIA of development. Ancient Egypt did get more wise population-wise over time, spiritual routines did improve over time in Egypt. They simply didn't have enough time to go all the way.
...or maybe "they" did, we are Ancient Egypt right here in the present and we are miles above what was. If the question is then "why doesn't Joey get Banishment of Apep on the sites", read my other replies.

 

[Endóxos Stylobátēs]

I feel like this has been discussed elsewhere to a great extent so I will not speak at length about it here.
What I will say is that these rituals are not for everyone .

They are for people who go above and beyond to support the temple and the Gods mission on earth.

What I will tell you as somebody who has purchased some of these rituals . Is that I feel they are extremely under priced .
What you gain from them far exceeds their price point .
I’m not a guardian or clergy .
I’m a “regular” member.
Maybe telling you this will mean more coming from a “regular “member



These rituals are not some small thing.
They are the most treasured pieces of information you can have in this life .

You are right when you say that the prices stimulate growth and will motivate members to excel in material realms of life .

Also donations are not only for keeping up websites.
Every other religion on earth has an endless supply of wealth being donated .
If you want Zevism to become mainstream and the biggest religion on earth..
That will certainly take a lot of resources.
Best of luck on your path

 

[Khem Nefermed]

I want to extra emphasize the "big problems" part.

It is a very quick and easy conclusion to think "big problems need big solutions".
Spiritually, "big problem" actually means "very low starting point". Very low starting point = even "low level" (public info is a lot more powerful than most Zevists think) things will get you massive improvement. It is the "little bit of problem left" that is very hard to get rid of, which requires the "big solutions".

What you're saying (natural conclusion, nothing bad to think) is essentially that someone who is very obese, needs to do sprints and marathons to lose weight, because they need to lose a lot of weight, and that's a lot of calories. Sure, sprints and marathons would lose more calories, but the 500lbs person can't sprint or do a marathon, and they will get MASSIVE results, like a LOT of pounds lost, just from a daily walk. Once a lot of weight is lost, they are healthy, and they want a six pack, that's when the serious training does come into play.

 

[Endóxos Stylobátēs]

If I can be very honest and direct here.
If I owned a house I would literally sell my house
To purchase the higher tier rituals .
And while I may not be able to afford all rituals
The ones I have purchased and experienced I would have been happy paying double the price .
Again I’m just a “regular “ member here
Not one of any note
Not yet anyway
Hope this helps

 

[616Taysha]

So, instead of spending money on ToZ, one could buy some sweets, candy and soda... I'm sure in the long run it would do them well (to hasten diabetes development, or any other 1st world disease).

As @Khem Nefermed said, if it was about survival - chill, I see. But if it was about having some spare money you could spend on fancy clothes, fancy trips, fancy food - save it for helping ToZ.

 

[Aquarius]

The very helpful rituals like the purification or the Egyptian financial blessing are extremely cheap and they will help you thousand fold. The problem isn't their price, the problem is you having a poor mindset.

 

[Power of Justice [SG]]

As far as I know, the prices are mostly symbolic and largely decided by the Gods. They are meant to promote growth but not be completely out of reach.

We assign value to things based on the amount of effort it took us to get them. The High Priest releases godly rituals every month that have POTENTIAL to transform a person, but how many people do these rituals earnestly with the power and attention required to actually reap the benefits? Would that be different if they weren’t given for free?

In truth, these rituals are beyond money, as there isn’t enough wealth in the universe to buy what is given essentially for free.

You’re tormented by guilt, shame, PTSD, etc.? The 42 confessions of Ma’at will give you eternal peace.

You want to be spiritually reborn? The 12 Gates of Ra will literally give you a new life.

[Insert the other 20 or so other rituals in the Hall of Osiris]

How can you ever put a price on that?

Yes, the temple needs people to build it, both through their actions and financial contributions. But what you get in return for giving life to the temple of the Gods IS beyond money.

 

[Nordicsupreme]

When I asked Lord Zeus about the same in my prayers since currency exchange rates hit me very hard all I got was - These are Gifts from the Gods to the Temple and its followers through HP ZM. It is well within the rights of the Temple to have these prices.
Question you need to ask - How can you go about buying these rituals? These are life changing and soul redefining rituals not some candies we see at the store which we want.
It is possible that I may not be able to afford all the rituals in the next 2 years but again maybe I can in 5-10 years. The pricing of these rituals should also make one find new alternatives to make money and grow as an individual rather than find comfort in whatever they are doing now.
Its not a game where all levels are to be completed for the sake of it. These are divine gifts bestowed upon us.
After the EFB the first question which came to my mind was why is it priced so low. As soon as I ended the ritual my phone was ringing with an offer of a business opportunity from a friend. I didn't take that for personal reasons. Nevertheless I found a way in due course of time.

 

[Nordicsupreme]

It makes me wonder about how Ancient Egypt had access to these advanced rituals and yet it fell anyway. The priests, pharaohs and aristocrats more than likely gatekeeped those rituals while the masses fell prey to Izeft over time with no real spiritual weapons to fight back besides the basic stuff, which clearly weren't enough.

I'm sure many priests and pharaohs ascended and became Daemons and even Gods, but Ancient Egypt is gone now, perhaps it may have remained if those purification and anti-Izfet rituals were available to everyone, not for free, but at least decently accesible to the average Egyptian.

I definently do not want to see history repeating itself in this regard. With HOO it could be accessible I guess even for those struggle if they saved up for years/months, depending on how their situation is. Maybe I'm being over-dramatic about it, but it's just a thought that came to me and I wanted to express the possible similarity that I see here.

Why trouble yourself with these thoughts that hold no significance since they are lacking in many spiritual understandings of the cyclicity of empires and the concept of mass karma and personal karma?
The same advanced priests from that time have ascended to become Gods or people of great caliber. One such example is Lady Pythia herself, she was a Priest in one of her lives and see where the work she started has brought us today. Soul evolution which these rituals provide wont wash away once someone passes away from this world
When you refer to the average Egyptians why not see the present times to draw parallels? How many people in our present time are genuinely interested in spirituality? Isn't most of the knowledge available for free? Why haven't even 10% of all those who visited the website over the years reached to significant levels of development? Like all things there is a personal karma everyone has to deal with. Even with the Gods on Earth I don't believe many will dedicate their lives to spiritual endeavors. To live in service of the Gods and to be Human is also a significant accomplishment for most souls. Once that is solidified maybe in the next life they might pursue higher knowledge since previous work has solidified in their souls.
These questions act more as hinderance to your own development rather than providing solutions. Would it be better if the higher ups shared these amongst themselves and not make them available to the common public? Train your brain to see these as opportunities rather than hinderances.
In a purely physical existence how many people have 6 pack abs since we all know what we have to do to be physically fit? Many simply don't care about their health and no matter how much research is presented to show its importance its wont be of any value. There is nothing wrong in it, since their lack of work on health will show as negative consequences to their own lives reflecting a personal choice one made.
One should work to not find reasons to quit, effort should be made to find solutions and see things in a level headed fashion
Learn to love and honor your own existence and deem yourself worth of having these gifts. Then find solutions to achieve these. Live a whole live where challenges are taken to prove value to oneself and to the world around them.

 

[Disciple of the Serpent]

Spiritual and material advancement, goes hand to hand.

Yes, you need to evolve materially as well.

You already have powerful and crazy wealth spells, like Lakshmi Square, and Gods Rituals.

Becoming rich and wealty is a form of material advancement, and this is very much needed.

You have all the tools, for free as well, so don't play victim.
Time to work hard and do what is necessary.

 

[Apprentice]

It's almost predatory to make the top purification rituals that expensive while promising they'll essentially end all your problems.

May I ask you, how many purification workings from the vast selection of free tools have you performed so far? There is a bountiful collection of free rituals that actually work miracles when approached and done in a serious manner.

When the first HoO rituals came out, I was a bit unhappy for a moment, too. The reason behind this? A virus of the mind, called scarcity mindset. It will get you nowhere, embittered stagnation only. It was in my best interests to eradicate it quickly, and focus on building abundance. Upper shelf spiritual knowledge has never been "free for all". Frankly, if you meditate about those rituals for a moment, you'll realize the current prices are actually cheap.
Focus on abundance, you'll get there.

 

[Asra]

I think they are too sacred and it would be a form of disrespect to the technology given to ToZ by the Gods if they were made available to just about everyone.

 

[Kuka]

Ok, now you wrote that, what changed? Nothing

So act and do something about it,

First consult, read study, this post by SG Voice of Enki, which encompass as stated by others in this post the Queen Astarte's Lakshmi square, also the new Lady Renenutet's ritual as well those two are avaible to the public. https://ancient-forums.com/threads/...e-vultus-templorum-server.306373/post-1193553


Then when the time's right so next waning moon, do also this mantra by Lord Janus which is the GAUM one:

Ganesha - Powerful Mantra

As it has been posted, and it circulates before and now, about Ganesha, there is a proper mantra received for us to help our lives and advance in our path, worldly and spiritually. The below is to confirm and clarify. The correct form of the mantra is about the 'Red' Ganesha, and it is related...

ancient-forums.com

Moving along, there's a ton of rituals on the ToZ also on the forum for puryfing, healing etc. it's just a search away from you

 

[Kuka]

Ok, now you wrote that, what changed? Nothing

So act and do something about it,

First consult, read study, this post by SG Voice of Enki, which encompass as stated by others in this post the Queen Astarte's Lakshmi square, also the new Lady Renenutet's ritual as well those two are avaible to the public. https://ancient-forums.com/threads/...e-vultus-templorum-server.306373/post-1193553


Then when the time's right so next waning moon, do also this mantra by Lord Janus which is the GAUM one:

Ganesha - Powerful Mantra

As it has been posted, and it circulates before and now, about Ganesha, there is a proper mantra received for us to help our lives and advance in our path, worldly and spiritually. The below is to confirm and clarify. The correct form of the mantra is about the 'Red' Ganesha, and it is related...

ancient-forums.com

Moving along, there's a ton of rituals on the ToZ also on the forum for puryfing, healing etc. it's just a search away from you

i forgot the Lakshmi's square by Priest Alexandros for context

Ganesha - Powerful Mantra

As it has been posted, and it circulates before and now, about Ganesha, there is a proper mantra received for us to help our lives and advance in our path, worldly and spiritually. The below is to confirm and clarify. The correct form of the mantra is about the 'Red' Ganesha, and it is related...

ancient-forums.com

 

[AFODO]

And they will also be less accessible as time goes by. Tier 3 and especially Tier 4 rituals were not given to anyone except only the key leaders like Pharaohs and Priests / High Priests after much more sacrifice than now.

So the fact that it is even kind of accessible for us normal people right now is a huge blessing from the Gods and High Priest Zevios. Even if you can't get it, you will still benefit and be blessed by standing on the same side as these Heroes with these Godly tools.

 

[Inquisitor⥀Veritas]

I will say if one truly desires something in life they will make it happen no matter what. The prices used to be much cheaper on the HoO as far as i understand it, if one knew about this then it is their lack of action on acquiring them to blame, not the increasing of prices. However if someone is new and they are only now just finding out about the HoO, my point still stands, if one desires something then they must put forth the effort required in making this a reality. I couldn't acquire crypto before when everything was cheaper, now things are more expensive and i am building up little by little to get the Sacred Rituals. Sure be unhappy about the prices if you wish, but understand this, not everyone will be able to acquire them and that is alright, but use your priceless time to acquire what you can in this life.

 

[Novice Priest Karnonnos]

Most people can't afford the prices of the higher tier rituals, unless they're willing to put a lot of if not most of what they have into buying some of these rituals as they may feel they need them. It almost feels like gatekeeping, requiring people to be rich to advance spiritually, when a lot if not most people, even in the West but especially outside of it, are struggling financially right now.

The average person who's also fiscally responsible isn't going to buy these. It's almost predatory to make the top purification rituals that expensive while promising they'll essentially end all your problems. Anyone with problems that serious will probably not be able to afford these in their lifetime, or they may spend most if not all they have to get these rituals. I won't go into details obviously, anyone on HOO who's donated can see those for themselves.

Does it really cost that much to maintain a few websites, especially after most got dropped after the new update, and none of the staff are being paid anyway, besides HPZM of course, I could be wrong about this though.

Just wanted to speak out how I felt about the pricing. I'm going to go hustler mode anyway, just to get rich in general but also to afford some of these rituals as I really want them, but the prices aren't pleasant to say the least. On the brighter side it may encourage a lot of Zevists to become hustlers so they can get those rituals, but the odds are most Zevists probably won't do that, and the rituals that'd get rid of all the karmic shit holding them back to help them do that are too expensive for them, which goes back to the gatekeeping point I raised earlier.

Most people have always financially struggled. There are ways around this, it is a labor. Outside of the western world, yes, things are tough, within the western world there is practically little excuse. Even in the third world, provided someone is not on the lowest tier of starvation-necessity and has some access to the net, there are actually innumerable ways to help the Temple on a daily basis that do not involve being a millionaire, even little things and intellectual or social contributions. Eyes are closed.

In Europe, Canada, Australia-NZ, Japan, Korea, the wealthy Khaleeji states and the USA, 'working-class' people drop money on things like Tier 2 and so on like nothing, Tier 4 they buy practically every year if working. I have seen himboids and bimbos of not exactly high means working at McDonalds drop money on going to Mauritius, Maldives, Tahiti or Santorini to take photos for the gram, or blow it on a nose job, or veneers. The level of credit card debt shows people are not exactly shy about spending on anything. I have seen kids be conned into going to university with a not exactly stellar degree and paying 40k, even 100k with a huge amount of debt, which is not even excusable beyond training to be a doctor or something of extreme karmic importance.

This attitude of everyone in the West is so poor, and everyone is struggling, and everyone eats gruel and pieces of sawdust-laden bread like a Dickensian tragedy is not reality, sorry. The reality actually is that people are so overnourished and spoiled that some demographics are 80 percent overweight and obese. That does not HAPPEN in a society of want.

Not attacking people for flashing cash here; sometimes you need to spend money on what you like and the pursuit of the things you want is a big part of becoming a developing personality able to make money in the first place. The priorities though are askew to say the least, and most of this lack of priority is because of izfet blinding people to a real purpose, nothing more.

It makes me wonder about how Ancient Egypt had access to these advanced rituals and yet it fell anyway. The priests, pharaohs and aristocrats more than likely gatekeeped those rituals while the masses fell prey to Izeft over time with no real spiritual weapons to fight back besides the basic stuff, which clearly weren't enough.

I'm sure many priests and pharaohs ascended and became Daemons and even Gods, but Ancient Egypt is gone now, perhaps it may have remained if those purification and anti-Izfet rituals were available to everyone, not for free, but at least decently accesible to the average Egyptian.

I definently do not want to see history repeating itself in this regard. With HOO it could be accessible I guess even for those struggle if they saved up for years/months, depending on how their situation is. Maybe I'm being over-dramatic about it, but it's just a thought that came to me and I wanted to express the possible similarity that I see here.

Well, just like the Santorini types, the majority of people even in Egypt had no interest in these types of things or were too immature to understand them. Egypt also survived in the middle of a desert situated entirely on a river for 3,500+ years (conservative estimate).

Most of these super powerful Pharaohs attempted to spread religion and soul advancement to as many people as possible. The fact future generations and weaker individuals forgot these lessons to focus on trivial matters and some invented malcontents from a ditch is not their fault.

 

[ARIES SPIRITUAL LIGHTOFLUCIFER666]

It makes me wonder about how Ancient Egypt had access to these advanced rituals and yet it fell anyway. The priests, pharaohs and aristocrats more than likely gatekeeped those rituals while the masses fell prey to Izeft over time with no real spiritual weapons to fight back besides the basic stuff, which clearly weren't enough.

I'm sure many priests and pharaohs ascended and became Daemons and even Gods, but Ancient Egypt is gone now, perhaps it may have remained if those purification and anti-Izfet rituals were available to everyone, not for free, but at least decently accesible to the average Egyptian.

I definently do not want to see history repeating itself in this regard. With HOO it could be accessible I guess even for those struggle if they saved up for years/months, depending on how their situation is. Maybe I'm being over-dramatic about it, but it's just a thought that came to me and I wanted to express the possible similarity that I see here.

All I can say us nothing happens overnight to obtain anything of substance takes time

Most people can't afford the prices of the higher tier rituals, unless they're willing to put a lot of if not most of what they have into buying some of these rituals as they may feel they need them. It almost feels like gatekeeping, requiring people to be rich to advance spiritually, when a lot if not most people, even in the West but especially outside of it, are struggling financially right now.

The average person who's also fiscally responsible isn't going to buy these. It's almost predatory to make the top purification rituals that expensive while promising they'll essentially end all your problems. Anyone with problems that serious will probably not be able to afford these in their lifetime, or they may spend most if not all they have to get these rituals. I won't go into details obviously, anyone on HOO who's donated can see those for themselves.

Does it really cost that much to maintain a few websites, especially after most got dropped after the new update, and none of the staff are being paid anyway, besides HPZM of course, I could be wrong about this though.

Just wanted to speak out how I felt about the pricing. I'm going to go hustler mode anyway, just to get rich in general but also to afford some of these rituals as I really want them, but the prices aren't pleasant to say the least. On the brighter side it may encourage a lot of Zevists to become hustlers so

 

[Nikólaos666]

Some people here, have made the choice to give to ToZ in order to get those rituals. I am one of those. I took mostly all my savings to acquire as much as possible.

I did it for my personnal growth and the growth of ToZ. When someone is doing those rituals,it also affect the whole Temple positively.

Life isn't about equality, since there is none of this. Its about opportunities and what you do woth them. If you aren't at the level to acquite any of the sacred rituals, you should work your way there with money workings we have.

I wish you the best.

 

[Black Magic]

Most people can't afford the prices of the higher tier rituals, unless they're willing to put a lot of if not most of what they have into buying some of these rituals as they may feel they need them. It almost feels like gatekeeping, requiring people to be rich to advance spiritually, when a lot if not most people, even in the West but especially outside of it, are struggling financially right now.

The average person who's also fiscally responsible isn't going to buy these. It's almost predatory to make the top purification rituals that expensive while promising they'll essentially end all your problems. Anyone with problems that serious will probably not be able to afford these in their lifetime, or they may spend most if not all they have to get these rituals. I won't go into details obviously, anyone on HOO who's donated can see those for themselves.

Does it really cost that much to maintain a few websites, especially after most got dropped after the new update, and none of the staff are being paid anyway, besides HPZM of course, I could be wrong about this though.

Just wanted to speak out how I felt about the pricing. I'm going to go hustler mode anyway, just to get rich in general but also to afford some of these rituals as I really want them, but the prices aren't pleasant to say the least. On the brighter side it may encourage a lot of Zevists to become hustlers so they can get those rituals, but the odds are most Zevists probably won't do that, and the rituals that'd get rid of all the karmic shit holding them back to help them do that are too expensive for them, which goes back to the gatekeeping point I raised earlier.

As someone who doesn't live in the richest country, I can say that it bothers me too. In the foreseeable future, I can assume that there will be a caste of rich Zevists who will be more advanced than ordinary Zevists only because of their financial condition, on the other hand, this personally encourages me to address the Gods directly and work with that information that i alredy have. A similar situation concerns my comrades with whom I also work directly in real life, they are not the richest people and they're have no clue what they're should think about that situation with HOO, in the world where people take credits on food

 

[MT Kim]

"Silvanus, Patron of the Humble and the Hardworking!
The soldiers carved your name upon their altars in distant provinces.
The shepherds left you milk at the edge of the wood.
The freedmen gave you thanks for every small blessing.
You never belonged to the marble temples alone.
You belonged to the field, the barn, the campfire, the dirt road.

Bless every common man and woman among the Zevists.
Not only the priests and the scholars, but the workers,
the builders, the mothers with soil under their nails.
Let every Initiate know that the Gods see their labour,
and that you, Silvanus, walk beside those who toil."

From today's group ritual. Powerful reassurance

 

[The Alchemist7 [SG]]

I can assume that there will be a caste of rich Zevists who will be more advanced than ordinary Zevists only because of their financial condition,

That is not really true. The Sacred Rituals on Hall of Osiris can significantly propel someone's advancement but the information that is public on ToZ is also very advanced, far more advanced than what most general people had access to in ancient times, general people as in, those who were not initiated in spiritual schools or similar. Also it is through ToZ that many people are building their wealth as well, a very powerful soul will also have the power to attract wealth and the public knowledge on ToZ definitely provides that to everyone. The Sacred Rituals are for those who want to take their advancement at another level and in fairness they are also priced by "western standards" that many people could afford by saving up for whatever period of time. I am quite sure this knowledge in anyone else's hands would have been far more expensive.

 

[Recycler1337]

Well, I'd understand if all of ToZ's knowledge was hidden behind a $1,000-per-view bar—that would be one thing.The methods are there, and if you don't know where to get $1,000, I don't think you'll need them either. I'm content with the bare minimum, and I still can't even handle the techniques listed in the advanced sections. Why would I need SUPER-advanced techniques?

 

[Aquarius]

As someone who doesn't live in the richest country, I can say that it bothers me too. In the foreseeable future, I can assume that there will be a caste of rich Zevists who will be more advanced than ordinary Zevists only because of their financial condition, on the other hand, this personally encourages me to address the Gods directly and work with that information that i alredy have. A similar situation concerns my comrades with whom I also work directly in real life, they are not the richest people and they're have no clue what they're should think about that situation with HOO, in the world where people take credits on food

This is just victim mindset. Evolve and take responsibility. "muh country here" "muh country there", are there rich people in your country? Why are they rich? Now listen to your answers. Will your answers be more excuses?

 

[Black Magic]

This is just victim mindset. Evolve and take responsibility. "muh country here" "muh country there", are there rich people in your country? Why are they rich? Now listen to your answers. Will your answers be more excuses?

Oui, qu’ils mangent de la brioche! je dis bravo!

 

[Black Magic]

This is just victim mindset. Evolve and take responsibility. "muh country here" "muh country there", are there rich people in your country? Why are they rich? Now listen to your answers. Will your answers be more excuses?

Hi there, i was thought about that question now, I remembered that I can't get a promotion because I don't communicate much with people, while my successful colleagues are extroverts who kiss everyone's ass. Unfortunately, I can't betray my nature and become like them, I've always been an introvert who gets tired of people and just wants to enjoy my serenity. Obviously, wealth is tied to connections in the first place, and I never was public person, my unsociability is a given that I grew up with, it does not serve my advancement, I know that, but even when I tried to communicate with people, I came across the fact that I simply do not understand them, and they themselves feel very strange in my company for no reason, despite the fact that in ordinary life I lead I behave and communicate like an ordinary person. Objectively, it also happened that I met people who were afraid to communicate with me, including at my work space. And that's my conclusion, people just don't like me, and it turns out that your conclusion that I have to take responsibility sounds strange because half of the work is on me and the other half is on how people will perceive me, and it completely doesn't depend on me because people, each of them has their perception filters through which they see this reality. So yeah, rich people are rich here because they're got a lots of conections and because they're know how to talk shit with a smart face

 

[Aquarius]

Oui, qu’ils mangent de la brioche! je dis bravo!

No, io mangio pizza!!

 

[Kuka]

Oui, qu’ils mangent de la brioche! je dis bravo!

citing Marie Antoniette, lol

anyway study the post-Keynesian macro and see the model, also see the Gini index for the income distirbution of the GPD or study the CPI.

The keynesian model, in the didactical form Y=I+G+C, gives you the closed Economical cirtuic, which there's the producer, spending of consumer etc. etc
at least here you might get a sense of reality in the nation economics.

also policy for tax etc play a role here: those are useful tools to get a quantitative rather than "i feel it so it must be true" PoV.

 

[Kuka]

citing Marie Antoniette, lol

anyway study the post-Keynesian macro and see the model, also see the Gini index for the income distirbution of the GPD or study the CPI.

The keynesian model, in the didactical form Y=I+G+C, gives you the closed Economical cirtuic, which there's the producer, spending of consumer etc. etc
at least here you might get a sense of reality in the nation economics.

also policy for tax etc play a role here: those are useful tools to get a quantitative rather than "i feel it so it must be true" PoV.

Also see brother's @Nordicsupreme posts on finance, he explains international topics but it lets you to understand some of the context of the tools i just cited

 

[kaelgr]

About a year ago, I started contributing to ToZ not with money, but with whatever I could, and they accepted me as a donor. Now I want to do even more. Growth isn't just about money; the desire for spiritual growth must come from within. When you truly begin to grow spiritually, you can be sure that you will also grow materially, with the support of both the Gods and your own mind.

I haven't purchased any of the rituals yet. But I'm trying to understand all the free rituals, and I know that I'll be able to easily buy some of them in the future.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

It makes me wonder about how Ancient Egypt had access to these advanced rituals and yet it fell anyway. The priests, pharaohs and aristocrats more than likely gatekeeped those rituals while the masses fell prey to Izeft over time with no real spiritual weapons to fight back besides the basic stuff, which clearly weren't enough.

If you do not comprehend the immense, beyond imagination value, already open in the ToZ, and how this can carry you ALL THE WAY past all the limitations you might have today; do not worry about the higher Rituals; worry about comprehending this, for by comprehension, you would have overcome all the problems listed in your initial response. People can testify to this and they are many.

There's no wall and it keeps getting better for everyone.

Apparently for example you must give maximum love spell to 15 years old with major hormones, ultra death spell to angry 15 year olds, that hate mommy and daddy, and transcendental Rituals that could make one into a living cannonball, to just a passerby down the street, so they can be angry at school and borderline ruin all the karmic flow of their classmates.

No.

They did good to gatekeep; it's better to give certain powers only to those who can wield it and prove merits for such wielding, than to "anyone indiscriminately".

The reason the Ancient Egyptians and many other people decided to fall rather than to give these to the unworthy, was because they were nor worthy, nor ready of these powers. The havoc caused by certain powers would be x100 times worse if used by the wrong hands or treated in "egalitarian manners". Do you want people down the block to be able to remove your life indiscriminately, or who knows what? What chaos will fall upon the planet with all the knowledge in the hands of every irresponsible person?

If you have the power of nukes, and you know humanity is undeserving, you don't "make amends" by putting a big red button on everyone's table, but by proceeding to bury it with yourself; this reassures the security of the future and the coming of a better era, where people will again reach the power necessary to control these things. "Oh my heart is bleeding that someone cannot afford it, let me put the Nuke Button on everyone's table worldwide so they don't feel bad they own the nukes" - The world unfortunately, doesn't work this way.

We have to stay strong and be able to uphold what powers we gain; and those who aim for these, aim there for a reason. By the time you will attain higher and higher, you will notice you unlock layers of responsibility, of powers, and of guidance by the Gods who take you very seriously in that pursuit. They take us all very seriously, but these verifiable acts are verifiable acts; not empty words.

If one climbs higher, they don't prove "financial power". It's far more than that. Many cases are not accepted merely because of any financial prominence. They are rejected. The proof of record is in the ability to manage life, self manage, and be responsible in the use of power, and devoted to the ToZ and ethically aligned for best use of these tools.

Yes, you need people to have these tools also; they help you, they help the Community, they grow you and indirectly affect you positively in ways you would also never be affected.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

If I can be very honest and direct here.
If I owned a house I would literally sell my house
To purchase the higher tier rituals .
And while I may not be able to afford all rituals
The ones I have purchased and experienced I would have been happy paying double the price .
Again I’m just a “regular “ member here
Not one of any note
Not yet anyway
Hope this helps

In 2019 I sold everything I owned for the ToZ to survive and move to the next level. It was everything I had basically down to minus; not zero. Nobody would do these rambo moves; and I understand this. People close me know these things and what I have done.

Meanwhile I had also to listen every accusing baboon and monkey that has stated against me that I was here for whatever other reason. I stayed silent on these but no longer. Before you talk against me after 17 years and more sacrifices than your 100 living generations combined, wash your mouths with a lot of vitriol.

On my behalf more things have been sacrificed with totally uncertainty of my existence for your sake. I have sacrificed beyond your imagination. Many people wouldn't sacrifice two snicker bars for the Gods they claim that they love when they "attack me" during these times. You love them so much you wouldn't sacrifice two MacDonalds burgers to support the Temple, but at the same time, you want your nukes and most high knowledge delivered at your doorstep just because you breathe?

That's not how it works my dearest loves. In order for the Gods to do certain things, one has to lift certain rocks in this life also.

Chill out, thanks for caring about everyone who is apparently weaker, but the underestimation of the labors of the strongest members and you wanting equality with them, while they lifted tons of rocks so you can breathe, has to have a limit to it. Stop acting like self entitled pussies all day long and start lifting rocks; what you can.

Enough of the dogshit that you deserved Golden Ages when you are in fact not sacrificing two fucking snicker bars of the Gods; you make me nauseous and disgusted when you say these things - What sickness has overtaken your minds, when you say the Hall of Osiris is wrong, while all our Ancestors collectively did sacrifice 10% of their crops every year, just to DISPLAY, that the Gods are ETERNAL and to give them GRATITUDE even if they needed NOTHING, just to support the notion of SACRIFICE and PROOF OF LABOR?

Of what form of golden vagina did you come out, sunshine, to DEMAND the Golden Age, DEMAND the sacrifices of others, and DEMAND you deserve everything, when you don't even sacrifice two fucking snicker bars for the COSMIC GODS?

The absolute arrogance of those who won't give two cheeseburgers for the Gods but at the same time boastfully "demand", had to reach a conclusive end at some point. Yes the Hall of Osiris is not for you if you whine all day and you want to do NOTHING and you want others to do EVERYTHING and you want to take everything from these people's sacrifices. If you believe this, you are SICK mentally.

And through the mercy of the Gods to us, thank them for being so kind to this species that has given up on them to eat 2 fucking extra snicker bars per week, and because of the powerful people, you have many things; many things to overcome all your fucking weakness you are so much in love with. Go and overcome it. You were supposed to be Godhead entities, GOD-FUCKING-DAMNIT. WAKE UP!

The Hall Of Osiris was that conclusive end.

There have been crazy people who love the Gods a lot and you have indirectly benefited tremendously from this love, but don't mistake it for the podium of your own entitlement to all things. There should be a limit to ungreatfulness and accusations past a point.

However, for some reason, the Gods see sometimes the people who do these things for the love of them and they value it highly. They saw I really meant what I said, I was not an empty talker. Then it dawned to me it's about what we do and what goals we set. Words are thin air most of the time.

 

[Voice of Enki [SG]]

People severely undervalue what is on the Temple of Zeus, and especially what is on the Hall of Osiris.

Realistically, right now what is on Hall of Osiris, is beyond any value monetarily. The fact these are available to the public at all, in any capacity, is something never before seen possible at any other time in history. Any who now are here and have the capacity to understand and truly appreciate that know how truly insane it is that you can have access to knowledge of such power so easily right now.

These rituals, such as the most advanced purification rituals, they purify all your dross from all past lives, literally to become as reborn being, free from anything and completely purified. This you simply do not understand what that means.

If you do Aura Cleaning from the Temple of Zeus, you purify many things, extremely deep purification of spiritual dross occurs. I have seen and experienced this myself. Your soul becomes brighter than anyone around you, you are clear and pure, past life dross is removed, many issues are worked out, etc. What you achieve with this is absolving of karmic issues that plague other people endlessly, heal scars, etc. Very profound, far more powerful than any therapy or other thing you can do.

By contrast, the advanced purification rituals on Hall of Osiris are like the difference between a normal person and a Zevist who practices Aura cleaning and spiritual purification consistently. They are supreme, and ultra powerful, and actually they are so powerful you need experience and spiritual knowledge gained through the practice of the spiritual path given by the Temple of Zeus to even be able to do these successfully, or to understand what you are doing at all.

These are vastly beyond what should be available for free in any place, because the effects are transcendental.

You don't get education in highest universities for free, or courses for free, or a mansion for free. Nothing in life is free.

Temple of Zeus free material, is highest PHD level education and practical course on the Spiritual Path.

Hall of Osiris is beyond that entirely in totality. What is given free on ToZ is already by many layers the highest available. HoO further expands this, makes you literally as a Pharaoh of the past. How many people could become Pharaoh in the past?

1. Yes. One Pharaoh per generation. Now, with Hall of Osiris, many people can obtain same level of spiritual power and knowledge as the great Pharaoh of the past. No amount of money can be equated to this kind of opportunity, and it is insane this is even possible to exist.

High Priest Zevios Metathronos labours like Hercules, doing impossible work day by day, doing impossible sacrifice and feats in his life, out of love for the Gods, to give opportunity for people to truly embark on the Spiritual Path and Path of Maat, to give opportunity for people to reach Eudamonia, and even unlock the gates to the God Head, which is a feat of such profound nature the amount of people in history who have been able to achieve it can be counted on your hands. Now, High priest does his sacrifice and his labour to allow the Temple of the Gods to exist in the next ages, and so the humanity, which does not deserve even 1% of this, but out of love by the Gods and by High Priest, now has the opportunity to follow the Eternal Path of the Gods once more in the Aquarian Age.

High Priest and the Gods have already given more than deserved by anyone here, let alone by the humanity as a whole. Since the humanity has not given anything to support the Gods, or for this Spiritual Path to exist. Now, people must stop whining and complaining and actually put their Love for the Gods where their Mouth is, act on their so called Love and act on their empty words to give them substance, to become actually deserving of what is presented before them now.

If the world once again rejects the Gods out of it's baboon like nature, endless entitlement, arrogance, double ignorance and other Izfet, I wish everyone good luck in the next age. We have seen what a Godless world looks like in the previous ages, just know that a Godless age of Aquarius will be many times worse than what we have seen in the past. Perhaps humanity will deserve that however, since it is asking for it...

I don't want to exist in that kind of world, or for my descendants to exist in such a sick Godless world, so I support High Priest in the creation of the Temple of Zeus for the coming age, which is the only hope for a decent future. With all my capabilities, and possessions, I support the building of a Path greater than myself, or anything I have been or could become individually.

This whining needs now to end. No more whining and no more bs.

We will build the Temple without you, or we will pack up and the world will have to deal with the consequences of your whining. In the end, we have done right by Maat, but the world has not. May the Gods have mercy on the foolishly double ignorant, and may the Gods be merciless against all who obstruct the Temple of Zeus and greater Destiny for humanity.