That has nothing to do with energy, it's you over stretching and/or doing the pose incorrectly. You're not supposed to feel pain when doing yoga, so go slower, you're not supposed to feel a super stretch like when you're doing stretching in yoga, you basically have to get in a position in which...

No, è una k vibrata molto brevemente, fa proprio il suono c come nella parola cane.

It's not true.

E' esagerato chiamarlo coglione, è qua da un po' di tempo e non è una persona che intende male.

Però non cominciare il lavoro casualmente, guarda che non ci sia il vuoto di luna e comincialo nel giorno migliore per il denaro, usa il calendario.

Parlo della roba transgender non del fatto che questa società sia orribile. In realtà è la società vhe fa schifo, non il mondo, il mondo è neutro in se. Però la vita è comunque bellissima, società schifosa o no, hai tutti i mezzi per crearti una vita meravigliosa, se non li usi non puoi lamentarti.

And delusions too, just to let you know. Yeah, no.

Molto semplice, non lo fai. Magari verrai minacciato dai tuoi genitori ma che possono farti? 2 schiaffi alla mano?

Should be common sense not to fuck your cousins. This thread has degenerated heavily.

Buona fortuna:)

Nowhere does it say to do that forever, HPS Pythia says that if you want to temporarily "disconnect" from the astral to ground yourselfbyou should avoid those in that given moment. There's other reasons for which you should avoid video games but that's another topic.

They really are nice, I saved a wolf spider with an egg sack attached to its bottom who couldn't get out of the pool, by hand, then the spider appeared again this time with many mini wolf spiders on its back, that time I didn't take it with my hands though lol.

Il lavoro spirituale ti fa venire idee, rimuove blocchi interni e può far avvenire situazioni che ti possono fare uscire di casa. Se non sbaglio tu hai una pensione per una qualche disabilità, quella spetta a te non ai tuoi genitori se non lo sai.

Non ho capito cos'é che i tuoi genitori prendono. Se vuoi un mio consiglio, fai un lavoro di liberazione dall'influenza dei tuoi genitori, 40 o 90 giorni(90 nel tuo caso mi sembra meglio), quella è la base per liberarti dalla loro presa, poi fai altri lavori tipo denaro ecc

Because of the advice you gave me in the past years I've always been very thankful to you and I always feel like you're a big brother to me, thank you:)

As I said untrained minds can believe what they want, call it placebo.

How did I belittle you for saying you're lazy? Got hit in the feels? You should take advice from those more advanced than you, so that you can learn and advance.

Didn't see that, nice!

I tried to, it doesn't work offline unfortunately.

Since you admit you're new and because of that inexperienced and naive why don't you take the advice given? Simply because of placebo effect, when you're new you don't really have much control of your mind so you will believe what you want to believe and viceversa. Because it's useless. What...

But guess who is right most of the time, the lazy one who wants everything with minimal effort or the one who puts it the work?

You can believe what you want, but the truth is one, and that it's useless.

No, it's actually a great resolution, it's not so easy though(at least for me :p) So keep it up!

This link to the paintable Ritual from Brother Soaring Eagle 666 still works: https://web.archive.org/web/20180920183738id_/http://zen-dijkstra-98e94f.netlify.com/ To save it from Firefox: 1)Open menu on the upper right. 2)Select: "Save page as" then save it to wherever you want. 3)You can now...

Non deriviamo da gli uomini primitivi, siamo stati creati dagli Dei. Anche se gli Dei ci avessero creato usando gli uomini primitivi che c'erano sulla terra noi non abbiamo nulla a che fare con quelli perchè siamo una specie a se stante.

Dude you posted drama for 10+ Years, sometimes when reading your stuff I was wondering how you really are an Zevism from such a long time, because the immaturity on certain old posts of yours is incredible. My point being, you're the last person who should criticize stuff for being "drama"...

It's useless. If you want results you need to put in the work. Shortcuts don't work.

Stormblood è molto occupato, non si è allontanato per tali motivi.

Mate you're delusional as fuck, you're are light years away from actually raising the kundalini based on your maturity, delusions and spiritual advancement. You are better off starting to be more grounded and not use drugs if you really want to advance and become a proper Zevism.

Looks like a bot tbh.

You're an Zevism, even if you die you're gonna stay in a safe place.

Tasto destro del mouse sul file, apri con:, e poi scegli il browser. I html viewer non ti servono, tutto quello che stai vedendo ora è fatto di html, semplicemente questo è online, mentre i tuoi file sono offline.

You are heavily deluding yourself, you're either speaking to your own mind or to some kind of negative entity, you clearly can't differentiate between what's real and what's not.

Sono attacchi psichici mischiati con una mente poco concentrata. Non c'è motivo per cui gli Dei non ti amino, o che Satana ti abbia abbandonato. Fai rituali a Satana e esprimigli le tue emozioni, lui non abbandona nessuno, semmai è il contrario.

I file html li apri col browser.

I'm not sure who you are referring to with "what about you" as we are all Zevism here. Personally I don't drink any alcohol, ever. I find it pretty useless and the fact that even on low doses it's unhealthy is known.

If you ask then you're not ready. Study more, advance more, ask more questions if needed. Read Zevios's sermons on the kundalini if you haven't already.

Si vabbè, tanto è la quinta volta che fai lo stesso post, tra qualche mese ne farai un'altro.

I understand you, I used to be like that when I was a teenager(before finding Zevism), now I still want a very meaningful relationship and my chart points to me meeting my soulmate in the future. Wanting love from another half is natural, it's when, as you said, people are devastated by...

It's not silly to be dissapointed by failed relationships, it's more silly to repress yourself instead of growing from that mistake so that the next relationship you will have will be with a positive person.

I suggest you to quit porn totally first of all. And as for fantasies most of them just come from porn, so you should quit those too. You should focus on your yourself when masturbating, feel your body, feel your arousal(not much if you numbed yourself with porn, eventually it will develop)...

You should read Zevios's sermons on the kundalini when you can. They're in Library of Thoth.

Do you masturbate to porn or fantasies?

And haven't you done some searching on the search bar only to find that HP Zevios has said this exact same thing and I am just repeating it?

Really? there was someone called minime in the yahoo groups before it was taken down.

Satan just have 1 wife, the info on JoS is incorrect. So knowing that everything you said is delusions.

I'm happy for you:) I remember you from the yahoo groups!

Want a manicure and back massage too?

You restore them by meditating everyday.

Why would you want to become asexual?

Months before becoming an Zevism I have started smoking it everyday because i knew a person who would give it to me for free, then I got in a situation in which I couldn't smoke it anymore, that moment was the exact moment I found Spiritual Satanism, when that period ended I felt bright, like...

Not as an insult or anything but only those naive enough would want you as a HP, you tend to be deluded and sometimes immature[see what happened with HPS Shannon], so they probably just idolize you for your too long posts.

Get a career reading from Lydia or HP Zevios. Also, you don't necessarily have to do just 1 thing in your life.

If you're not the one driving then yes.

Wait so Loki88 is actually Mageson?

And then you burn out and stop meditating and self depreciating yourself and months later you come in the forum telling us that you burned out and then you do it again.

Non li sottovaluterei, ora sei sotto la protezione di Satana, ma quei brutti bastardi hanno capacità psichiche che manco ti immagini. Concordo che sono degli schifosi.

Keep in mind that if that started happening right after you got the car fixed it might mean the mechanics are dishonest and did that purposefully to get you to pay more money to them, this especially can happen if you're a woman. This could or could not have happened, but it's something to keep...

Find a deeper meaning to life than just earning money, money is needed and great, but be careful of not being motivated solely by it. Ask yourself questions, why do you feel depressed? Maybe it just became a habit? Maybe you are bored on days off? Maybe you feel unproductive? When negative...

L'acqua demineralizzata non te la consiglio da comprare, spesso potrebbe non essere totalmente demineralizzata, e ti costa non poco a lungo termine. Meglio se ti compri un distillatore e te la distilli tu, con meno di 100 euro ne trovi uno buono su amazon. Poi però ricordati di remineralizzare...

When highschool started I became what I would now call a degenerate, fortunately I found JoS when I was 15 so that period didn't last for long, but damn I cringe thinking back about that period....

Thank you!:)

Drinking it is fine. Just don't drink it everyday and drink good quality ones.

I wouldn't send mine regardless of this situation:p My plan for is to homeschool mine.

My father has been day trading for years now, he's been successful in it(not always though). And one thing it has taught me is that I don't want to do that. He's basically constantly checking out the stock market, when he's driving he has his phone on the stock market, when he's watching tv it's...

This guy is probabily the kind of guy who when rejected by a girl starts telling her how he is a nice guy and wonders how other guys attract her more. Lol

It's perfect

If it was removed then probably it had stuff that was wrong in it.

This dopamine detox might aswell be called don't browse social media for hours everyday without purpose. More info here: https://www.reddit.com/r/nosurf/

This dopamine detox might aswell be called don't browse social media for hours everyday without purpose.

Certo, solo dio ti può giudicare vero? posso giudicare chi voglio, poi se all'altro importa o no è un'altra storia. Ti ho già detto com'è la storia con sti complessi mentali. Buona Giornata.

Puoi mandarla a Satana.

It just means that the raven died. Once a bird crashed at full speed on a glass door and I saw it, wasn't nice, that poor little thing broke its neck, but it's not a sign, it's just how nature is ·

Guardando il calendario :P

Si, responsabilità al responsabile lo sento ogni volta che,senza offesa, qualcuno voglia giustificare le cazzate. Il fatto è che è sicuro al 100% che chi si vuole cambiare il colore degli occhi non ha nemmeno il potere di farlo, quindi sfizio o no non se lo toglie se non maturando e diventando...

Find an alternative if you can. If you can't then just take it, it's not gonna kill you. No need to destroy your future just because you don't want a vaccine.

You can also invoke the earth element.

are you deaf?

Bene, ora anche scemo man se ne va. -1 troll

Vibrate aum or Satanama for a couple minutes.

Sembri una persona che ha molti problemi interni da risolvere. Sistema quelli prima di trovare l'amore.

You should do it at least 2 times daily

Io lo faccio ogni volta. Conta che a ogni Ritual ti stai liberando l'anima da maledizioni e altre schifezze del nemico quindi se non ti pulisci ti tieni i residui.

The Ritual prepares you.

Devi farne quanti puoi, in generale più è sempre meglio, ma devi vedere come reagisci tu e sopratutto se riesci a stare concentrato, inutile fare 8 Ritual quando a metà non stai più concentrato e la mente divaga.

I use pimsleur and Assimil for German.

Io faccio quello in cui visualizzo la luce sopra la mia testa e la faccio scendere accatastando tutta l'energia sporca e negativa e altre cose del nemico. Se non lo faccio è come se mi fossi pulito da dentro ma tutto lo sporco è rimasto su di me.

use 2 fingers

To make the process if kundalini raising easy you do a lot of Ritual! If you feel negative when doing the Ritual that's just because it's removing all blockages that prevent you from raising the kundalini!

La biocinesi fino a un certo punto è possibile, il fatto è che molti la trattano come una meme, l'ultimo sul forum inglese voleva farsi crescere delle ali *sigh*. Se uno vuole cambiarsi il colore degli occhi è perchè ha complessi mentali che lo portano a non accettarsi, ed è meglio lavorare su...

You can do it fast and easy here: https://web.archive.org/web/20180920183738id_/http://zen-dijkstra-98e94f.netlify.com/ You have to do at least 3 a day. That will make you able to raise the kundalini very fast.

Oltre che essere una cosa praticamente impossibile per una persona principiante e anche per una persona più avanzata viene da un sito che attacca JoS quindi perfavore evita di promuovere sti posti.

Semplicemente devi smettere di avere paura. Crearti paranoie non aiuta.

It's not so bad, I like it as a hot beverage sometimes and there's organic or more expensive brands that are good. Here in Italy a normal coffee is a little cup, personally I hate that, I prefer long ones.

don't worry about it just do the final Ritual.

Read: The multi orgasmic man by Mantak Chia and cultivating male sexual energy. Remember though that non ejaculating for a prolonged period of time(1 week+) isn't good for you, just a reminder as Mantak pushes that idea.

You can literally buy a tin of instant coffee for 5-7 euros and make it last weeks instead of buying that shit water diluted liquid they call coffee.

Affronta le cose che ti spaventano. Ti faccio un esempio, da bambino guardavo sempre film horror, questo mi ha fatto venire paura del bosco di notte, quindi ho preso un'amaca e me ne sono andato a dormire da solo nel bosco. Paura superata.

In pratica ti atteggi come un buddista. La maggior parte degli insetti sono di natura parassitica, come le mosche,zanzare,scarafaggi. Non hai idea di quanto possa essere schifoso avere gli scarafaggi in casa e non ucciderli/buttarli nel cesso. Non sentirti in colpa se uccidi uno di questi. Gli...

You should deprogram from islam.

La situazione dell'Egitto migliaia di anni fa è leggermente diversa da quella di ora. Tu come al solito ti vai a creare varie strane teorie che poi bisogna perdere tempo e dibattere sul forum, ma secondo te gli Dei vanno a spaventare gli Zevism? Perfavore non fare perdere ulteriore tempo con...

Vedono come ti comporti verso le tue responsabilità e l'impegno che ci metti nell'avanzare. Le responsabilità di ogni Zevista è ovviamente la guerra spirituale e la meditazione giornaliera.

Ciò non toglie che gli Dei non mettano "alla prova" come alla gente piace pensare.

Absolutely yes, that's why you have to do the Rituals!

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25358&p=117035&hilit=satan+wives#p117035

Gli Dei non ti mettono "alla prova" in tale modo.

Ancora Quello che intendevo è che nel giorno finale dirigi ULTERIORMENTE le energie e visualizzi il tuo scopo ma ho specificato di fare le affermazioni ogni giorno e di programmare l'energia così facendo non si va a aumentare il karma Non ho letto male, ho letto malissimo, ti chiedo scusa...

You're hallucinating, you really think you're so important as to have Satan come to you and bring his wives so that they can meet you? And Zevios has already debunked the 5 wives myth, his only wife from what we know is Lilith and the rest come from grimoires which are not to be taken literally...

Ottima osservazione :lol:

Ennesima sciocchezza. Quindi anche tua madre quando avevi la febbre e ti metteva la mano sulla fronte stava cercando di manipolarti spiritualmente? Non so se ti rendi conto di quanto ti rendi poco plausibile quando te ne esci con queste teorie prese dal culo. E' una cosa che tendo a ripetere...

Non è un trucco, è soltanto un modo per rendere inefficace il quadrato. Indovina cosa succede se non dirigi l'energia che inalzi dopo il quadrato... Questa andrà o ad amplificare il tuo karma negativo oppure la dirigerai quando fai un'altro lavoro spirituale. Questo consiglio che Gerecht Ror...

Because it will raise your kundalini so always do Rituals!

Ma per favore.. Quindi anche i tuoi genitori quando avevi la febbre cercavano di sopprimerti il terzo occhio mettendoti la mano in fronte? :lol: Lo sto dicendo spesso ultimamente, soltanto perchè questi pensieri ti vengono alla mente, non vuol dire che sono validi/veritieri/importanti.

just do the Ritual, it will make you very spiritual advanced.

Or maybe you should not give importance to random theories that come from your ass. People being afraid of spiders is just because many just grow up with the wrong values. Example: You're a kid, you see a spider and your parent kills it and says it's scary or whatever, now as a kid you will do...

Not a smart idea. Your energies are gonna drop and progress might halt. You should continue meditating and cleaning the dross.

you should feel great after it. If you don't it's just because you're not used to it. Just do it everyday until you will be able to have all superpowers you want.

Se vuoi comprarti le bottiglie io tendo a bere la valmora, che non riporta alcuna percentuale di fluoro.

*Da aggiungere per quel thread che la sacerdotessa Shannon ha consigliato di bere acqua distillata remineralizzata con sale.

https://www.templeofzeus.org/JOS_Protection.html Quello originale specifica di fare 1,3 o 10 affermazioni. E una ripetizione è Satanas affermazione Aum E non Satanas affermazione Satanas come su quello italiano.

Ask one of the Gods or Satan for their help. Be sure to do daily Rituals, asking without giving back isn't nice.

Don't worry, your're never gonna get stuck there, and you have Satan's protections if something negative happens:)

I guess ios devices are a better choice? But what else is there that is not an android/ios device and that doesn't spy you? The Pinephone is still bad as a general use phone and the same can be said about the purism phone.

Sleep paralysis with heart beating so fast means you were close to astral projection, I'm not even sure it's your actual heart but rather the heart chakra. Don't get scared next time and try to relax and let out of your physical body.

Puoi usare le rune Uruz, ansuz o il mantra munka. In un giorno adeguato per la liberazione dell'anima comincia il lavoro spirituale per liberarti da complessi mentali di natura sessuale e vista la tua situazione direi di farlo per almeno 90 giorni. Puoi anche fare un lavoro spirituale per...

squeek squeek squeek squeek squeek squeek

Noo :lol: It actually came out to me as advertising too, but I didn't know what else to write.

Non è una scelta che puoi fare, viene deciso da loro.

Thanks guys, indeed proton looks more trustworthy. I didn't pay, I easily found free premium accounts online. That actually seems sketchy now that I write it.

Beautiful, thank you for your work Brother. I wanted to approach you for an Italian translation but I see you did it already, great :D

Unfortunately the onion browser for ios makes browsing extremely slow so I've opted for a vpn, and I'm using NordVpn, it's 100/€ a year but you can find premium accounts for free in a couple minutes if you search. I've also just read that Nordvpn has just passed some security check that prooves...

Al-Jilwah di Satana, Capitolo IV: "Non menzionare il mio nome né le mie caratteristiche, in caso potessi pentirtene; poiché non sappiamo cosa potrebbero fare coloro che non sanno." Ricordatevi di non parlare della vostra fede alle persone, non parlate loro del vostro orientamento politico, e...

It's in the JoS website. Props to you for quitting.

What are you trying to accomplish? If you have a health problem and want to heal it it's better to concentrate on that specific problem than to do a general health working.

I don't hate you, but when I saw that the last reply was yours in my mind I was like "Oh he's definitely an expert in these topics". You posted some stupid stuff in the past, that's why we in someway connect this to you.

Bjork/Berkano rune.

The rosary is just for keeping count.

Dude that picture's hilarious, where did you get it? :lol:

Fuck off whitecloud, here again to start arguments as always. Thinking about it you and Loki are the perfect couple, he shove coffee up his ass and drinks his own piss and you preach of soul immortality like a xian. Loki is not even dedicated to Satan yet you speak of him as if he was actually...

Hope you're ironic.

Yes.

Concentrato

Doesn't mean that it's good and accepted here. No, you're not responsible, you think destroying your mind is responsible? You think that destroying other people's mind is responsible. Responsability to the responsible is just another meme that druggies like saying to feel like they are mature or...

The important thing is that you understood your mistakes and that you will never repeat them again. The Gods understand you.

Mercurio retrogrado. I post miei di giorni fa ci hanno messo giorni a essere approvati, il forum è in sovraccarico come ha appena detto HP Zevios.

You can try becoming a better person and developing your charisma and social skills so that you may actually be able to speak with her.

Ask guidance towards info about it. Or start working on that chakra.

Take them with a grain of salt, the methods of getting out are good.

Sei ancora molto ingenuo riguardo agli Dei, i poteri di controllo se li da effettivamente li darà a un Zevista molto avanzato, non a uno che manco probabilmente si è mai pulito l'aura. Un consiglio basato su esperienza personale, non vedere i Demoni come esseri che solo perchè gli chiedi...

Why not call him Satan? Are you scared of that?

Cold turkey. You can get high with the pineal meditation and the beautiful meditation from Satan which you can find on the meditation section.

You're either gonna investigate your stomach problems and fix them or mask the problem and destroy your mind. You could try looking for an ayurveda or tcm doctor who will help you. Also, bananas when not cooked make me have stomach troubles, so maybe take a look at that. Just because it's fruit...

Nope, they're nothing compared to JoS. If they ever shut us down have the website and pdfs saves.

L'anima gemella è un partner con il quale probabilmente sei stato in vite passate e che è perfetto per te e la tua anima. Non tutti ce l'hanno, ma tutti hanno un potenziale partner che sia "perfetto" per se stessi. Il partner potrebbe o non potrebbe essere un Zevism, ricorda che anche loro sono...

This question has been posed countless times, mercury rules the heart chakra. Learn to use the search function.

I think it's rather old misinformation which still wasn't removed, as the website still has to undergo updates.

You made 600 posts, the HP's have to go through every post of yours to cancel your account. You should have been smarter and not spammed your andrapod protocols.

It's not a trade, let's make an example, your father needs your help with some house work, and you love him, and he raised you, so why not help him? With the help you give him he of course will be grateful to you, and he may help you in whatever way a Father can help his son/daughter,don't think...

But he hates the abrhmic god and the mafia!!!!!

Damn, you really can see what kind of person someone is when you tell them some truths.

Now the ban's coming and we're gonna have 1 less spammer to think about :lol:

Why do you think he abbandoned you?

You are extremely deluded, these powers you mention are things you develop after a lot of spiritual advancemente which can take up to 20 years. Not to mention that growing wings is just the thought of a deluded brain on drugs. If you want to achieve anything concrete in Satanism and build a...

But daddy i thought u loved me

He's delusional, raising the kundalini is an immense act that can take an Zevism 12 years, while it can take a whole lifetime to a non-Zevism, what he might have felt is energy going up the spine but that's it. He can immagine all the shit he wants, doesn't mean we should believe him.

Fai quello che vuoi nei tuoi sogni.

What did you just say about my mother?

As a xian you have 0 power.

Because you're procastinating the issue to 4am :p It's literally a bad habit. I used to have this bad habit too:"I wanna be so productive Im gonna wake up at 4AM and do all my shit!" too bad it's just a way to procastinate and I would always be dead tired and achieve nothing. If you wanna be...

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20200615IPR81223/parliament-condemns-all-forms-of-racism-hate-and-violence-and-calls-for-action These fuckers literally approved a new resolution, and not everybody knows about it since it's not very spoken about ...

Don't sacrifice your sleep, you can do everything after work. It will mentally and physically drain you to wake up at 4am

Vai avanti fregandotene. Se parli creerai solo problemi che ti renderanno ancora più difficile il tuo proseguimento.

Yeah lol dude is a retard. Props to you for stopping.

You should stop projecting your delusions, you're a low life individual, Satan never has said those things to you.

If you miss a meditation just do it the next day, don't obsess over it. In this case your aura might have become a little bit more dirty and vulnerable, with time even if you miss a day nothing much will happen but make sure you do it everyday:)

Lo yoga apre i meridiani e rende il flusso energetico più libero, è assolutamente necessario.

Tranquillo, il ban arriva anche per te.

You're acting all tough, but in realiry your mindset makes you weak. We all need guidance from the Gods in one way or another. I am advancing just because I asked guidance to Satan, of course I do the hard work, but they guide me to the actions i need to take.

Ideally 8 hours a day of sleep, but if you feel fine on 7 hours go for it. I personally need 8-8.30h per night.

I monaci sono degli scemi. Se non hai un partner puoi masturbarti. L'astinenza sessuale porta solo problemi, e anche molti quando hai il kundalini attivo.

Avoid fasting, other advice is good.

Working for him, so Rituals, online warfare, prayers ecc

It kinda was for me too. But you just learn how to deal with emotions. It's the equivalent of hiding instead of dealing with difficult things. When you learn how to deal with emotions you will have more wisdom and you will learn not to suffer this much for certain things.

Clownworld at its finest.

Then he would just have wrote Yaum :p

You went overboard with resident evil.

Well I'm an adult too and I like them and I don't feel any less of one by watching them :P

Gli Dei non ti mettono alla prova in tale modo. Magari hai problemi di salute..

It says it removes bindings it could be alright, but I'd wait for the opinion of somebody else too.

That was less than 2 years ago, it wasn't really a problem.

Inanna is perfect for the sixth chakra. It's correct the way it is.

This is like the sixth post called "question for everyone on here", instead of fantasizing about meditations and magick you should actually do them yourself. You will never experience anything if you continue in the way you're doing.

Il punto della meditazione è proprio sviluppare pazienza e perseveranza, oltre che ovviamente tutti gli effetti spirituali. Anche 5 minuti di savasana vanno bene. Il punto è di rilassarsi non annoiarsi. Se ti annoi a rilassarti hai una mentalità sbagliata verso lo yoga/meditazione.

Puoi dire che ti serve per scuola e non usarla mai per scuola.

I want to remind that Jack too in his previous account had a guy from Naruto as a profile picture :} Not that there's anything wrong, Naruto's awesome. It's when people start using weird anime pictures that it starts to become strange.

My man, I love you.

Ask Satan for a sign that will be very evident.

Non devi per forza usarla per scuola, ;)

When I asked him by mail years ago he told me it's the worse thing you could use.