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Retrograde mercury, credit card

SparkingPowerUP

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Hello, i got my self a new credit card and the thing is i started it on retrograde mercury and signed a paper and then today after the retrograde i got it and signed a digital paper.

Does it have any bad thing if i started it on retrograde mercury? As i know while on retrograde, it's bad to sign papers, should i make a new one? I use it for normal stufs like shopping.
 
I personally do not see anything wrong with your situation.

I personally think, that the concept of credit card is a kind of self-deception, because in the end, the things you buy end up costing you more. Financially, it would be smarter to save money first, and then buy.
 
I personally do not see anything wrong with your situation.

I personally think, that the concept of credit card is a kind of self-deception, because in the end, the things you buy end up costing you more. Financially, it would be smarter to save money first, and then buy.
There is a concept of interest free period, and the most sensible consumers pay their montlhy bills in time so no interest payments start to accrue. The rest should not be using credit cards.
 
I personally do not see anything wrong with your situation.

I personally think, that the concept of credit card is a kind of self-deception, because in the end, the things you buy end up costing you more. Financially, it would be smarter to save money first, and then buy.
I am saving money. The credit card i use it only for online products that can only be buyed with credit cards or non-cash. I have an obsession to buy stufs, it's a weakness of mine...
 
There is a concept of interest free period, and the most sensible consumers pay their montlhy bills in time so no interest payments start to accrue. The rest should not be using credit cards.
You mean to only buy with cash? Some products online are more cheaper (in total) than with cash in physical stores
 
You mean to only buy with cash? Some products online are more cheaper (in total) than with cash in physical stores
No. I am talking about the responsible method for credit card usage, which is to pay the monthly bill in time so that no extra costs accrue. If your credit card has no interest free payment period, you should look for another, or not use it. At least that is what makes the most sense financially. You can also look into using a debit card for online payments as they serve the same function as credit cards, but charge your checkings account.
 
Zevists getting credit cards and mortgages…

I thought people here more than anyone would be more educated on the usury economy. Apparently not. Enjoy making banks profit I guess.
 
Zevists getting credit cards and mortgages…

I thought people here more than anyone would be more educated on the usury economy. Apparently not. Enjoy making banks profit I guess.

This is another program those who control the wealth have instilled in the minds of people. That interest is Usury. When you borrow money you shouldn't/couldn't have, then the creditor (he who takes the risk to give you the money to spend on bags or whatever - for impulses or for anything in real life) they want a certain % back on what they risked so the bimbo could get a Gucci Bag or a Helicopter she could not initially purchase.

Eventually as this is beyond their means and they cannot pay it, the interest rises and this interest forms a situation where if you manage it correctly, good, you got what you needed when you needed, or bad if you don't pay.

As the Eilotil ones constantly want things and they overload their cards, then they play the other card; "Blame the banking institution for it" to blame all their mistakes for "Usury". Usury it's when the % required is skyrocketed. However, none of this exists if one is financially intelligent.

Difference between USURY and actually getting Loans or Credit Cards, is the difference between the percent and it's viability to be paid back. Banks inform clearly on this. They say for example, 3% per month. Usury involves that you say 10 or 20% per month [typical in loan sharks]. People of course borrow from both carelessly and they don't manage these things [they knew the terms if they read] and "YOLO" themselves in financial disaster. The card to play after this is "Evil banks" and "Evil Usury".

As a Zevist one should not penaltize any of these things, they must read the terms and be pragmatic on what they are doing.

I am saving money. The credit card i use it only for online products that can only be buyed with credit cards or non-cash. I have an obsession to buy stufs, it's a weakness of mine...

If you have a credit card and a severe buying habit, ie, you buy and you don't keep track of nothing mindlessly, the Credit card can become a weapon that is against you. In controlled measurement and intelligent use, Credit cards can be used to help you in your financial evolution. But learn to manage it. If you use Credit cards and you just buy mindlessly and without regard of how you will pay, it can be highly detrimental. Be mindful.

Loans and credit cards can be amazing tools, PROVIDED they are used intelligently and you can manage the debts. You can get things that you would not be otherwise able to get, but the term is that you must gradually repay this. This is a financial tool that you can use, but if it USES YOU, then you are setting yourself for trouble.

All these things can be used and should be used *IF* one is financially literate and self constrained enough to manage it all. There are advanced techniques to use these and to manage these. Make your thorough research and don't hate on the aspect itself. Hate only if you cannot manage it and/or ignorance.

As for loan sharks and actual usury, avoid it at all costs, because many of these people are literally mafia that can take your house etc. These tools should only be used in absolute emergencies and when all other sources are exhausted; and even then they can be highly destructive and dangerous. The practice of being loan-sharks is common on the Yehuborim same as promoting financial illiteracy to the people in order to take all their wealth and pool it under their control. NEVER borrow massive amounts for frivolous or greed oriented needs. These can be destructive.

If you borrow for ASSETS that can PAY OF LOANS BY THEMSELVES, then this is debatably a good decision, but READ THE TERMS AND PLAN ACCORDINGLY. If you borrow for frivolous expenses that will generate nothing for you in the longterm [clothes, cars and things like this] you are stacking FINANCIAL LIABILITIES; ie, you get a loan for something that will NOT generate anything for you. This can be financially deadly and it's a recipe for finding yourself in a financial hole. Avoid.

Be mindful.
 
If you borrow for ASSETS that can PAY OF LOANS BY THEMSELVES, then this is debatably a good decision, but READ THE TERMS AND PLAN ACCORDINGLY. If you borrow for frivolous expenses that will generate nothing for you in the longterm [clothes, cars and things like this] you are stacking FINANCIAL LIABILITIES; ie, you get a loan for something that will NOT generate anything for you. This can be financially deadly and it's a recipe for finding yourself in a financial hole. Avoid.

Be mindful.

These days I was seeing a Hebrew saying something similar, instead of paying rent, just take a credit and then pay that as "rent" for an apartment.

Supposedly this is gonna be your home, we can then take another credit after the first one was paid, and then having another apartment pay itself by renting it to other people.

Will take quite some time but as you advance you can build great passive income. I pray to the Gods to be guided towards more "hacks" like these.
 
These days I was seeing a Hebrew saying something similar, instead of paying rent, just take a credit and then pay that as "rent" for an apartment.

Supposedly this is gonna be your home, we can then take another credit after the first one was paid, and then having another apartment pay itself by renting it to other people.

Will take quite some time but as you advance you can build great passive income. I pray to the Gods to be guided towards more "hacks" like these.

We can have a section in the ToZ on Life Ethics for these topics. I can summarize it all for application.

Yes, they know how to play the game. Meanwhile, they tell everyone else "Usury is bad, money of the devil" and other buzzwords to keep everyone broke and non-advancing, as they take every financial opportunity that appears. As the slaves under Eilotil watch this, they are like "This is because they are evil and of the dark forces". They are just smarter and they make use of opportunities while they preach nonsense to the slaves/Eilots in order to keep them castrated and worthless. That is all there is to it.

This creates poverty [necessary for Christianity and Islam, as it procures misery] and then people screech from the Yehuborim faith of poverty, that they are "being deceived". Then they give the institutions all their money, they take total control, and borrow the people's money back to people on interest/usury or whatever.

These mentalities should be removed from ToZ and Zevists and life should be observed head on. If a criminal uses a knife, that does not mean the knife is nefarious by itself. If one is not educated or doesn't know how to use it, it's a whole other topic. The dumbest thing people did was to criminalize the knife itself.

The same thing happened to meditations, spirituality and other general categories that the Yehuborim know very well how to use; and the naive Christians and the deceived Islamics have no idea; so they just call it "Of the Devil and Haram and Hebrew" and just call it a day. Then, since they don't play the game, others play the game and win over them.

If anyone is a Zevist it's time for an intellectual and existential upgrade on these topics.
 
Debt is beautiful, when it's for building something that can give returns.

You guys have no idea, but there are certain hacks that make people travel by air completely for free, first class and all. Not doable for a minimum wage worker, but when you have a considerable income, credit cards will literally make you travel for free.
 
Thank you HP Zevios, for clarifying, I myself have a trauma in terms of borrowing money with interest. The was a Time in my life when my mom had to borrow from a loan shark, 20% monthly interest, it spiraled from there, to the point she had to borrow from another loan shark to pay off the monthly payment for the other one and we were financially devastated by this. 5+ years now and we are still recovering, we lost our house and we have to rent. I took it as a lesson to never spend money you don't have. Even if you have earnings to repay it. There were even times during having a good paying job, I was offered a credit card from an emerging bank with very minimal interest to attract new customers, I always declined. And I never borrow money from banks or lending companies. Even when I borrow from friends who would not charge interest, I don't borrow more money than I can earn in a single day. If its more than an entire day of salary, my trauma kicks in and would rather suffer having no food for a day than borrow money.

Loans are no Joke, the financial ruin they can bring is serious and can be very catastrophic.
 
This is another program those who control the wealth have instilled in the minds of people. That interest is Usury. When you borrow money you shouldn't/couldn't have, then the creditor (he who takes the risk to give you the money to spend on bags or whatever - for impulses or for anything in real life) they want a certain % back on what they risked so the bimbo could get a Gucci Bag or a Helicopter she could not initially purchase.

Eventually as this is beyond their means and they cannot pay it, the interest rises and this interest forms a situation where if you manage it correctly, good, you got what you needed when you needed, or bad if you don't pay.

As the Eilotil ones constantly want things and they overload their cards, then they play the other card; "Blame the banking institution for it" to blame all their mistakes for "Usury". Usury it's when the % required is skyrocketed. However, none of this exists if one is financially intelligent.

Difference between USURY and actually getting Loans or Credit Cards, is the difference between the percent and it's viability to be paid back. Banks inform clearly on this. They say for example, 3% per month. Usury involves that you say 10 or 20% per month [typical in loan sharks]. People of course borrow from both carelessly and they don't manage these things [they knew the terms if they read] and "YOLO" themselves in financial disaster. The card to play after this is "Evil banks" and "Evil Usury".

As a Zevist one should not penaltize any of these things, they must read the terms and be pragmatic on what they are doing.



If you have a credit card and a severe buying habit, ie, you buy and you don't keep track of nothing mindlessly, the Credit card can become a weapon that is against you. In controlled measurement and intelligent use, Credit cards can be used to help you in your financial evolution. But learn to manage it. If you use Credit cards and you just buy mindlessly and without regard of how you will pay, it can be highly detrimental. Be mindful.

Loans and credit cards can be amazing tools, PROVIDED they are used intelligently and you can manage the debts. You can get things that you would not be otherwise able to get, but the term is that you must gradually repay this. This is a financial tool that you can use, but if it USES YOU, then you are setting yourself for trouble.

All these things can be used and should be used *IF* one is financially literate and self constrained enough to manage it all. There are advanced techniques to use these and to manage these. Make your thorough research and don't hate on the aspect itself. Hate only if you cannot manage it and/or ignorance.

As for loan sharks and actual usury, avoid it at all costs, because many of these people are literally mafia that can take your house etc. These tools should only be used in absolute emergencies and when all other sources are exhausted; and even then they can be highly destructive and dangerous. The practice of being loan-sharks is common on the Yehuborim same as promoting financial illiteracy to the people in order to take all their wealth and pool it under their control. NEVER borrow massive amounts for frivolous or greed oriented needs. These can be destructive.

If you borrow for ASSETS that can PAY OF LOANS BY THEMSELVES, then this is debatably a good decision, but READ THE TERMS AND PLAN ACCORDINGLY. If you borrow for frivolous expenses that will generate nothing for you in the longterm [clothes, cars and things like this] you are stacking FINANCIAL LIABILITIES; ie, you get a loan for something that will NOT generate anything for you. This can be financially deadly and it's a recipe for finding yourself in a financial hole. Avoid.

Be mindful.
I see. Since ive come back ( i was in some troble from saturn return) i noticed you advanced.

I don't do loans i just save money and if i have enough then i buy what i want or need, and forgot to say it's not that of a big obsession.
 
Thank you HP Zevios, for clarifying, I myself have a trauma in terms of borrowing money with interest. The was a Time in my life when my mom had to borrow from a loan shark, 20% monthly interest, it spiraled from there, to the point she had to borrow from another loan shark to pay off the monthly payment for the other one and we were financially devastated by this. 5+ years now and we are still recovering, we lost our house and we have to rent. I took it as a lesson to never spend money you don't have. Even if you have earnings to repay it. There were even times during having a good paying job, I was offered a credit card from an emerging bank with very minimal interest to attract new customers, I always declined. And I never borrow money from banks or lending companies. Even when I borrow from friends who would not charge interest, I don't borrow more money than I can earn in a single day. If its more than an entire day of salary, my trauma kicks in and would rather suffer having no food for a day than borrow money.

Loans are no Joke, the financial ruin they can bring is serious and can be very catastrophic.

Loan sharks are doom. They should be avoided at all costs. 20% interest rate is totally criminal, but the loansharks do this because they don't take anything in potential return from this. Many loan sharks are not even legal or semi-legal as this classifies legally as usury to lend at 20% interest PER MONTH.

Yes, these can be highly catastrophic.
 
There are advanced techniques to use these and to manage these. Make your thorough research and don't hate on the aspect itself. Hate only if you cannot manage it and/or ignorance.
One technique is to have the money to buy the thing you want, but instead of buying, using credit. The money you have is then spent in the financial markets with a higher return than the credit cost.
 
No. I am talking about the responsible method for credit card usage, which is to pay the monthly bill in time so that no extra costs accrue. If your credit card has no interest free payment period, you should look for another, or not use it. At least that is what makes the most sense financially. You can also look into using a debit card for online payments as they serve the same function as credit cards, but charge your checkings account.
I just noticed its actually a debit card o.o lucky me XD
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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