Whats wrong with filtration process

[Goldenwings]

Hi, im new here, i cant anymore talk the way i want , im always holding back always watering down, since when i give 2% instead of 1% the thread get rejected, i also saw the reason put by the admin is arrogant like once he wrote " go write thzt somewhere else in reddit or some depraved forum" when in fact i talked and pointed to an important subjected that is also already watred down by me to avoid restiction, and i kept watering down and modifying but it always rejected

Its not the first time, once i talked about my experience with celibacy the admin rejected and wrote " dont promote celibacy" I AM NOT. PROMOTING I SAID LITERALLY THAT I AM NO LONGER A CELIBATE AND SAID THAT WHILE I WAS CELIBATE I EXPERIMENCED BENEFITS"
I am not a slave of yours so that you reject the thread when you dont agree with it!!

You are acting the same way religious people act , restricting and silencing everyone with a different opinion, even the God himself i wont agree with him on anything , i am sovereign i am a self proclamed God thats why i hated religions only to find the admins here acting like a religious leaders

More rejected thread and i will stop the contribution forever i will create another account and write questions and get things out of you and never contribute.

High Priest cobra himself if he saw the things i wrote he wouldnt reject them in opposite he would see great value in many and recognise the work im doing ( its already watred down since i didnt want to be harsh and be rejectedd for thzt but even the watred down versions would. Be praised by the most important members here )

I cant keep going that way , the better the thread the more becomes the probability of being rejected , the more watred down and average thread the more likely it bypasses this , and when the thread is of little value its always accepted ( talking about my experience)

Hail zeus!
Hail me!

 

[Blitzkreig [SG]]

Hi, im new here, i cant anymore talk the way i want , im always holding back always watering down, since when i give 2% instead of 1% the thread get rejected, i also saw the reason put by the admin is arrogant like once he wrote " go write thzt somewhere else in reddit or some depraved forum" when in fact i talked and pointed to an important subjected that is also already watred down by me to avoid restiction, and i kept watering down and modifying but it always rejected

Its not the first time, once i talked about my experience with celibacy the admin rejected and wrote " dont promote celibacy" I AM NOT. PROMOTING I SAID LITERALLY THAT I AM NO LONGER A CELIBATE AND SAID THAT WHILE I WAS CELIBATE I EXPERIMENCED BENEFITS"
I am not a slave of yours so that you reject the thread when you dont agree with it!!

You are acting the same way religious people act , restricting and silencing everyone with a different opinion, even the God himself i wont agree with him on anything , i am sovereign i am a self proclamed God thats why i hated religions only to find the admins here acting like a religious leaders

More rejected thread and i will stop the contribution forever i will create another account and write questions and get things out of you and never contribute.

High Priest cobra himself if he saw the things i wrote he wouldnt reject them in opposite he would see great value in many and recognise the work im doing ( its already watred down since i didnt want to be harsh and be rejectedd for thzt but even the watred down versions would. Be praised by the most important members here )

I cant keep going that way , the better the thread the more becomes the probability of being rejected , the more watred down and average thread the more likely it bypasses this , and when the thread is of little value its always accepted ( talking about my experience)

Hail zeus!
Hail me!

These posts of yours which were rejected (only a handful out of the 56 posts you had made in less than 10 days) contained strange messaging that was not suitable. In one case, it compared God rituals to a form of cuckoldry, alongside other ramblings on the topic. Regarding your statement on celibacy, which I am looking at now, it says "I tried being celibate, its hard , but its very beneficial...", and so on.

So I am not sure what the element of confusion is, as we don't stand for these values in a broad sense and don't want them pushed on the forums in large threads and by a self-proclaimed God. People already deal with enough confusion surrounding regular topics and problems. ToZ cannot be a basis for every single person's sermons; there has to be a self-protective bias.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

You are a self proclaimed god? You are a clown. Get serious.

 

[Goldenwings]

These posts of yours which were rejected (only a handful out of the 56 posts you had made in less than 10 days) contained strange messaging that was not suitable. In one case, it compared God rituals to a form of cuckoldry, alongside other ramblings on the topic. Regarding your statement on celibacy, which I am looking at now, it says "I tried being celibate, its hard , but its very beneficial...", and so on.

So I am not sure what the element of confusion is, as we don't stand for these values in a broad sense and don't want them pushed on the forums in large threads and by a self-proclaimed God. People already deal with enough confusion surrounding regular topics and problems. ToZ cannot be a basis for every single person's sermons; there has to be a self-protective bias.

I feel hope when i got attention, thats a very good sign, and i respect you so much for that .i understood the second part of your message, i was about to enter a debate after reading the first part , i understand that some may be misled by my writings ,i also think that was one of the main reasons many things changed in the forum compared to the old version, but how can i express the things i want to ? You talked about only a few of my messages was being removed, but those are the ones i tested waters with and was planing to accelerate... You got me with the point of " we dont want people being confused" since the forum is already controversial from the angle of view of the masses ..
Thank you again for answering

 

[Goldenwings]

You are a self proclaimed god? You are a clown. Get serious.

Thank you, i just wrote a poem i will post now on the forum, it talks about what you just did, a line in the poem says , the highest way to praise me is rejection.

Considering being a God, and the way you tried to ridiculise me, when i read your reply , instantly i knew you dont see yourself a God, and thats your opinion, but why project that on me? In my point of view , from many point of views ( i have a point of view , and that point of view is in the same time a collection of many point of views ) i am a God. And thats not something to brag about

You tried ridiculising me since you imagining im jumping and saying i am a god and being arrogent , while in reality im sitting in calm and peace , in the truth that i am a God and thus all the exitence is.
Hail Zeus!

 

[Goldenwings]

You are a self proclaimed god? You are a clown. Get serious.

I accept you as a supreme judge. I wish you could expand in your reply , in life , from my experience, i discovered a secret that often leads me to truth , two people are almost everytime wrong, the one who laugh a lot whole critisizing and tries to ridicule the other person, and the one who use statements empty of strong arguments and evidence . Lets analyse your reply " a self proclaimed god? You are a clown. Get serious". Anyone can write that , you started by mentioning what i claim, adding a question mark, then you belittled me " you are clown" ( 0 argument 0 value 0 idea) just a pure attack,you can call me worse names not only a clown , but the problem is It doesnt shake my divine nature. Even if it manage to stir in me feelings of anger which i am myself responsable for. then you said " get serious" again 0 idea 0 value 0 argument . Please criticise me with strong statements and things that may shatter my perception and Thank you.

 

[serpentwalker666]

Wow.. I can't even.. Please balance yourself out and take your advancement seriously. Your behavior is not acceptable and you must conduct yourself properly.

We are not here to condone the circulation of harmful advice like celibacy or feed into harmful delusions, like you being "a self proclaimed god".

Please try to pull yourself together and we will try to help you.

 

[Chakravarti]

Its not the first time, once i talked about my experience with celibacy the admin rejected and wrote " dont promote celibacy" I AM NOT. PROMOTING I SAID LITERALLY THAT I AM NO LONGER A CELIBATE AND SAID THAT WHILE I WAS CELIBATE I EXPERIMENCED BENEFITS"

Maybe you didn't mean to promote celibacy, but your confused writing style could make it seem so. Your posts are an unreadable confused mess, maybe if you expressed yourself more clearly this would not happen.

 

[Kitsunebi]

Hi, im new here, i cant anymore talk the way i want , im always holding back always watering down, since when i give 2% instead of 1% the thread get rejected, i also saw the reason put by the admin is arrogant like once he wrote " go write thzt somewhere else in reddit or some depraved forum" when in fact i talked and pointed to an important subjected that is also already watred down by me to avoid restiction, and i kept watering down and modifying but it always rejected

Its not the first time, once i talked about my experience with celibacy the admin rejected and wrote " dont promote celibacy" I AM NOT. PROMOTING I SAID LITERALLY THAT I AM NO LONGER A CELIBATE AND SAID THAT WHILE I WAS CELIBATE I EXPERIMENCED BENEFITS"
I am not a slave of yours so that you reject the thread when you dont agree with it!!

You are acting the same way religious people act , restricting and silencing everyone with a different opinion, even the God himself i wont agree with him on anything , i am sovereign i am a self proclamed God thats why i hated religions only to find the admins here acting like a religious leaders

More rejected thread and i will stop the contribution forever i will create another account and write questions and get things out of you and never contribute.

High Priest cobra himself if he saw the things i wrote he wouldnt reject them in opposite he would see great value in many and recognise the work im doing ( its already watred down since i didnt want to be harsh and be rejectedd for thzt but even the watred down versions would. Be praised by the most important members here )

I cant keep going that way , the better the thread the more becomes the probability of being rejected , the more watred down and average thread the more likely it bypasses this , and when the thread is of little value its always accepted ( talking about my experience)

Hail zeus!
Hail me!

Man, I had high hopes for you but seeing you hold some really crazy misconceptions about yourself isn't for this place at all. I don't like the looks of it so you better steer yourself to a better direction with your views before this makes you yet another lunatic around these forums.

 

[Kitsunebi]

Hi, im new here, i cant anymore talk the way i want , im always holding back always watering down, since when i give 2% instead of 1% the thread get rejected, i also saw the reason put by the admin is arrogant like once he wrote " go write thzt somewhere else in reddit or some depraved forum" when in fact i talked and pointed to an important subjected that is also already watred down by me to avoid restiction, and i kept watering down and modifying but it always rejected

Its not the first time, once i talked about my experience with celibacy the admin rejected and wrote " dont promote celibacy" I AM NOT. PROMOTING I SAID LITERALLY THAT I AM NO LONGER A CELIBATE AND SAID THAT WHILE I WAS CELIBATE I EXPERIMENCED BENEFITS"
I am not a slave of yours so that you reject the thread when you dont agree with it!!

You are acting the same way religious people act , restricting and silencing everyone with a different opinion, even the God himself i wont agree with him on anything , i am sovereign i am a self proclamed God thats why i hated religions only to find the admins here acting like a religious leaders

More rejected thread and i will stop the contribution forever i will create another account and write questions and get things out of you and never contribute.

High Priest cobra himself if he saw the things i wrote he wouldnt reject them in opposite he would see great value in many and recognise the work im doing ( its already watred down since i didnt want to be harsh and be rejectedd for thzt but even the watred down versions would. Be praised by the most important members here )

I cant keep going that way , the better the thread the more becomes the probability of being rejected , the more watred down and average thread the more likely it bypasses this , and when the thread is of little value its always accepted ( talking about my experience)

Hail zeus!
Hail me!

Change your views and do better, don't think you're some hot shit around here if you shit on the god rituals and said that being celibate is beneficial.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

It is very common for some people to believe that they are gods. This is common for people with schizophrenia or bipolar when they are manic. Or from people using dangerous drugs like meth or psychedelics. There are jails, drug rehabs, and mental hospitals who are full of people who believe that they are gods. And many of them are calm that they "just know" that it is true. All of them are wrong. All of them are insane people who have these ideas either because of mental problems, or because of drugs creating mental problems.

I hope that you are not one of these insane people who belongs in a mental hospital forever. I hope that you do not have any problems and that you were just confused about something, and that you could learn the truth and have all confusion be removed.

As humans, it is possible for us to eventually be able to become Gods after many lifetimes of extreme spiritual growth and advancement by direct practice and application of spiritual practices of the "8-fold path." You have not done any of this work yet. You are a beginner who has done nothing yet. And especially being as confused and as wrong as you are, spiritual advancement directly erases confusion and produces awareness of truth so it is obvious by looking at you that you have not developed any level of spiritual development yet.

You are basically a guy who is sitting on the chair at home who has never taken even one step out of the home, but saying that you have already climbed Mount Everest. You haven't climbed Mount Everest, you haven't even taken the first steps out of the house. But you could actually do all of the many decades of consistent work to create these accomplishments if you want to. But it requires to stop being a clown, get serious, and "get your head out of your ass." as my grandfather would say. Start being honest, serious, and real.

 

[Goldenwings]

It is very common for some people to believe that they are gods. This is common for people with schizophrenia or bipolar when they are manic. Or from people using dangerous drugs like meth or psychedelics. There are jails, drug rehabs, and mental hospitals who are full of people who believe that they are gods. And many of them are calm that they "just know" that it is true. All of them are wrong. All of them are insane people who have these ideas either because of mental problems, or because of drugs creating mental problems.

I hope that you are not one of these insane people who belongs in a mental hospital forever. I hope that you do not have any problems and that you were just confused about something, and that you could learn the truth and have all confusion be removed.

As humans, it is possible for us to eventually be able to become Gods after many lifetimes of extreme spiritual growth and advancement by direct practice and application of spiritual practices of the "8-fold path." You have not done any of this work yet. You are a beginner who has done nothing yet. And especially being as confused and as wrong as you are, spiritual advancement directly erases confusion and produces awareness of truth so it is obvious by looking at you that you have not developed any level of spiritual development yet.

You are basically a guy who is sitting on the chair at home who has never taken even one step out of the home, but saying that you have already climbed Mount Everest. You haven't climbed Mount Everest, you haven't even taken the first steps out of the house. But you could actually do all of the many decades of consistent work to create these accomplishments if you want to. But it requires to stop being a clown, get serious, and "get your head out of your ass." as my grandfather would say. Start being honest, serious, and real.

I am not claiming being God out of arrogance or delusion
Strawman again.

( These are opinions are the spiritual background i came from i do not promote this i am using this to clarify to this member why i viewed myself as a God)

In your reply you are confusing the body and mind with the witness and consciousness.

Even if i do 0 work, even if i do 0 advancement , being a God is not something to be achieved, being a God is my real state, by doing , the body is doing , not me , my learning my brain is storing more information and developing , not me , by training my body is getting stronger not me, i just witness of all it as phenomena happening , and remain the witness, The God.

Keep in mind the same thing you said about me can be said to you by someone who is against our religion, when he hears you talk to the Gods.

 

[Goldenwings]

Change your views and do better, don't think you're some hot shit around here if you shit on the god rituals and said that being celibate is beneficial.

Thank you foe your answer.
Whether i think i am a hot sh** or not , is my opinion.
Do you think i should put my self image and self worth in your hand ? So that you "accept me" , i am not a Dog that will comply for you to touch my head and say "Good Boy"

I am old enough to have opinions, are they are right or false, here comes a thing we call a debate where both of the parties learn.

 

[Goldenwings]

Man, I had high hopes for you but seeing you hold some really crazy misconceptions about yourself isn't for this place at all. I don't like the looks of it so you better steer yourself to a better direction with your views before this makes you yet another lunatic around these forums.

Thank you for your answer. And thank you for the fact that you had hope in me. That touched my heart while in the same way i view it indifferently, since opinion is never static, and one should not be attached to it, if a single claim changed your whole opinion about me , how can i rely on you to know my real worth?

Thank you again since thats one of the comments here that sounded like someone genuinely giving me tips instead of ridiculising me . I will answer accordingly.

Lets assume what i hold are truly misconceptions.
Do you believe you have 0 misconceptions now ? Are all your opinions by now true ? Did you reach perfection?
The answer is no, then in what way your situation is better than mine ?

I prefer to be on my path and make mistakes , thus growing , rather than copying and reformulating the same ideas just to be praised. If being praised is equal to conforming and losing my authenticity, i would prefer to be hated and ridiculed . At least i would now the hate is real not faked.

Concerning being a God, (my opinion) i see that everything in the existence is in essence God, while manifestations differ.

Beginner or advanced.
Human or grasshopper.
The role i am playing have nothing to do with who i am
Hail Zeus!

 

[Goldenwings]

Maybe you didn't mean to promote celibacy, but your confused writing style could make it seem so. Your posts are an unreadable confused mess, maybe if you expressed yourself more clearly this would not happen.

Thank you for being respectul, and not ridiculising me, as some did because the light of my statement was so bright.

I still dont know exactly the path carved by JoS for members to follow it, so that i make my writings fall in same direction even if having some controversial opinions.

The way i knew about the forum is through high priest cobra, i have reas many of his stuff , also two other priestess ( i do not remember the name " cobra was easier to recall")

I loved their work since i had similar opinions, what i liked more is that theey have controversial opinions compared to the mass population on earth, so coming here , in a forum made by those " controversial" people, i thought i can say my opinions as they are even if its prohibited to do so in other forums.

But now i understood that only high priests can do that here freely, concerning members, the filtration process has a biais to avoid confusion and avoid the JoS to turning into multiple paths instead of one, i understand that .

 

[Goldenwings]

Wow.. I can't even.. Please balance yourself out and take your advancement seriously. Your behavior is not acceptable and you must conduct yourself properly.

We are not here to condone the circulation of harmful advice like celibacy or feed into harmful delusions, like you being "a self proclaimed god".

Please try to pull yourself together and we will try to help you.

How can you call it a delusion, before nothing existed , only God existed right ? Then he created the universe , did he create it using something else, or from himself , if he created it from something else, God never was all that is, and who created the other thing that from it he created the universe ? If he was alone and created the universe from himself, All the universe is God.
Thats one of 33 million points of views from where i see that i am God.

Please use strong statements and arguments that will make me wake up from delusion, instead of just giving clailmsw i can me too answer like : " please wake up from the delusion, seriously, and know that i am a God, if you are not or more accurately do not see yourself as God, keep improving , one day you will come to the realisation"

This way of talking is the bishop style, positioning myself above you and giving you a lecture on how to" behave" and "to know your real (small) worth" , i dont agree with that, and i dont know what makes you think thats normal way of giving opinion.

Thank you for your comment.

 

[Goldenwings]

The Bishops tell me to avoid considering myself God, because thats a False God, reminds me of religions saying Baal is a false God, happy to be opposed , like the real Gods.for i am one.
Hail Zeus!

 

[Goldenwings]

It is very common for some people to believe that they are gods. This is common for people with schizophrenia or bipolar when they are manic. Or from people using dangerous drugs like meth or psychedelics. There are jails, drug rehabs, and mental hospitals who are full of people who believe that they are gods. And many of them are calm that they "just know" that it is true. All of them are wrong. All of them are insane people who have these ideas either because of mental problems, or because of drugs creating mental problems.

I hope that you are not one of these insane people who belongs in a mental hospital forever. I hope that you do not have any problems and that you were just confused about something, and that you could learn the truth and have all confusion be removed.

As humans, it is possible for us to eventually be able to become Gods after many lifetimes of extreme spiritual growth and advancement by direct practice and application of spiritual practices of the "8-fold path." You have not done any of this work yet. You are a beginner who has done nothing yet. And especially being as confused and as wrong as you are, spiritual advancement directly erases confusion and produces awareness of truth so it is obvious by looking at you that you have not developed any level of spiritual development yet.

You are basically a guy who is sitting on the chair at home who has never taken even one step out of the home, but saying that you have already climbed Mount Everest. You haven't climbed Mount Everest, you haven't even taken the first steps out of the house. But you could actually do all of the many decades of consistent work to create these accomplishments if you want to. But it requires to stop being a clown, get serious, and "get your head out of your ass." as my grandfather would say. Start being honest, serious, and real.

You said " get your head out of your ass"

you need to avoid this disrespectual way of talking

Its okay, i just did the void meditation and aura cleansing i feel Good , and i will not let you ruin that feeling.

if your grandfather used to tell you that ( as you said) do not project that on me. And waiting for every ocasion to tell people what your grandfather told you.

Since my grandfather always told me to know my real worth, he never talked about my ass, like yours did( as you said).

The disrespectful way you talking to me with. it makes you think you made a point, when in fact i can say same thing to you . It means nothing. The only thing im sure about now is during your life your grandfather talked so much about your head being in your ass that it became part of your DNA, and you will pass it to your succesors , they will have it in their genetics.

Do you mean that :
when i say "i am a God" = " my head is in my ass"?

If i am a slave , i wonder where my head would be , since the ass spot is already taken.

 

[Kitsunebi]

Thank you for your answer. And thank you for the fact that you had hope in me. That touched my heart while in the same way i view it indifferently, since opinion is never static, and one should not be attached to it, if a single claim changed your whole opinion about me , how can i rely on you to know my real worth?

Thank you again since thats one of the comments here that sounded like someone genuinely giving me tips instead of ridiculising me . I will answer accordingly.

Lets assume what i hold are truly misconceptions.
Do you believe you have 0 misconceptions now ? Are all your opinions by now true ? Did you reach perfection?
The answer is no, then in what way your situation is better than mine ?

I prefer to be on my path and make mistakes , thus growing , rather than copying and reformulating the same ideas just to be praised. If being praised is equal to conforming and losing my authenticity, i would prefer to be hated and ridiculed . At least i would now the hate is real not faked.

Concerning being a God, (my opinion) i see that everything in the existence is in essence God, while manifestations differ.

Beginner or advanced.
Human or grasshopper.
The role i am playing have nothing to do with who i am
Hail Zeus!

Man, I was just trying to tell you to stop thinking you’re some god just because you didn’t do work or are made by basically essence which ties to “god” in someway, well did you even tame the cosmos or caused a really enormous beneficial change in the world? Whatever it is you’re believing in, it’s crazy and it doesn’t align with any good occult sources.

Even if i do 0 work, even if i do 0 advancement , being a God is not something to be achieved, being a God is my real state, by doing , the body is doing , not me , my learning my brain is storing more information and developing , not me , by training my body is getting stronger not me, i just witness of all it as phenomena happening , and remain the witness, The God.

Godhood requires lifetimes upon lifetimes of serious soul improvement, occult practice and evolving both materially and spiritually, and I’m NOT even there yet. So are you. What you’re claiming is like saying there’s no such thing as needing efforts for outcome, or in the analogy of the third law of physics, no action needed for reaction. It’s like you’re saying you don’t need to do your job to get your paycheck or contribute seriously to a company for a promotion or raise. Do you touch grass mate or even have a job?

I’m going to have to stop replying to you and begin ignoring you until you really see that you are not right in the head and must change this.

 

[Hierophant]

A god is a being of extremely high spiritual and physical elevation. Even above other Immortals and Daemons. This is why there is always hierarchies in the Gods and Daemons of every ancient civilization. So being a God is not a matter of your viewpoint or beliefs. You're either immortal and unkillable or you're not, thinking doesn't change anything here. I used to believe something similar to what you're saying about being a god, but in the end human power is limited. All the affirmations I did to assume a "god" mentality didn't give me any ability to change reality around me.

The problem with thinking you're already a god is that you're completely limiting your own awareness of your current state and present actually abilities, and problems you need to work on. You can't go far spiritually by cutting off your relationship with the gods by thinking your already a god, and if one didn't need a connection to the Gods and Daemons to advance then why is the world so spiritually ignorant.

Thinking fanciful things doesn't change anything. If you get shot in the head you're going to die for example. Thinking I'm a god bullets can't hurt me, won't protect you. Meanwhile an actual God wouldn't die in the same situation. Only real spiritual power is real, thinking doesn't make it so.

Btw, if celibacy had any spiritual benefits why do so many priests who are supposed to be celibate rape children?

 

[Vivek]

I am not sure what 0.99$ Gumroad PDF you obtained these "religious views" from, but it is clear you have many misconceptions regarding Zevism and what this path entails.

Unlike other so called "spiritualists" we do not enable delusional grandiosity nor schizophrenia on these forums, but only knowledge which comes straight from the Gods (AKA, 100% facts)

People are trying to help you.

I'd recommend humbling yourself and actually reading through the decade+ worth of material on Library of Thoth first and foremost.

 

[Goldenwings]

Man, I was just trying to tell you to stop thinking you’re some god just because you didn’t do work or are made by basically essence which ties to “god” in someway, well did you even tame the cosmos or caused a really enormous beneficial change in the world? Whatever it is you’re believing in, it’s crazy and it doesn’t align with any good occult sources.



Godhood requires lifetimes upon lifetimes of serious soul improvement, occult practice and evolving both materially and spiritually, and I’m NOT even there yet. So are you. What you’re claiming is like saying there’s no such thing as needing efforts for outcome, or in the analogy of the third law of physics, no action needed for reaction. It’s like you’re saying you don’t need to do your job to get your paycheck or contribute seriously to a company for a promotion or raise. Do you touch grass mate or even have a job?

I’m going to have to stop replying to you and begin ignoring you until you really see that you are not right in the head and must change this.

Thank you for your answer
Saying you will stop replying and ignore me is proof of you shooting your last bullet. I hope its not the case, im giving you benefit of the doub. Lets start.

First of all, concerning the first part of your message you said

stop thinking you’re some god just because you didn’t do work

Thats strawman, i am not saying i am a God because i didnt do work, thats pure nonsense.

Material gain is a thing, spiritual gains is a thing, knowing the truth is another thing.

If i remove all the layers, the body the mind etc , only God will be left, God is my consciousness , everyone has a divine nature

Your whole reply is a mess, why debate whether i am or i am not a God? Instead of asking me what do i mean by that ? Or asking me to expand on it so you understand my point of view

Your whole reply is based solely on one thing " you think you are a God, and im here to prove you are not" thats not the subject , no one can convince one who had the experience.

Give me arguments instead of just saying :
You did not did work
Who do you think you zre to think you are god
Its hard to be a god
You are arrogant

What is that? Everyone can say the same thing its too empty that when i reply i can do nothing but point at the emptiness of your statements.

If you really think that the fact that behind the mask , behind the role i am playing claiming im a God , if you think no good occult teaching teach that, please do your homework.

You said Godhood take lifetimes and lifetimes, i refuse that , dont postpone my divine nature and force me into slavery, do that to yourself , like you said, you didnt reach it. I hate these talks about "it takes lifetimes" you remind me of people saying """who do you think you are that God will talk to you / man 100 mantras is nothing, i have done 2 million mantra of this who are you to talk to me / i do 4 hours meditation daily im better than you/ i fasted 3 days and didnt claim being that or this and you are claiming it""" whenever i see someone talking this way i refuse to accept anything he says, since its extremly disempowering, and if you need 1 million repitition of a mantra and you claim 100 repititions are of no use, it only proves how weak you are or how weak the mantra you are using is

Dont talk to me about being a slave for lifetimes before claiming who i really am, in what way you are different than the religious person promising me paradise after death.

I want thing as soon as possible, now! Dont postpone anything related to me and put it in a next lifeline ,no! I am here now , lets talk about now , i dont iike fantasy Land!

concerning when you started in your reply Comparing it to paycheck and to money and work, proves you are trying to hide between " a physical logical way of thinking" to make me look like if im fantasy Land, actually i see that you removed the spiritual mask and put the physical one to hide behind it.

I do believe using the power of the mind one can attain a level where he can build pyramids with purely the power of his mind ( my own opinion)
Take this!
You thought i will hide after you pulled out the physical card? No im standing my ground !

Thank you for your answer.
Hail Zeus !

 

[Goldenwings]

A god is a being of extremely high spiritual and physical elevation. Even above other Immortals and Daemons. This is why there is always hierarchies in the Gods and Daemons of every ancient civilization. So being a God is not a matter of your viewpoint or beliefs. You're either immortal and unkillable or you're not, thinking doesn't change anything here. I used to believe something similar to what you're saying about being a god, but in the end human power is limited. All the affirmations I did to assume a "god" mentality didn't give me any ability to change reality around me.

The problem with thinking you're already a god is that you're completely limiting your own awareness of your current state and present actually abilities, and problems you need to work on. You can't go far spiritually by cutting off your relationship with the gods by thinking your already a god, and if one didn't need a connection to the Gods and Daemons to advance then why is the world so spiritually ignorant.

Thinking fanciful things doesn't change anything. If you get shot in the head you're going to die for example. Thinking I'm a god bullets can't hurt me, won't protect you. Meanwhile an actual God wouldn't die in the same situation. Only real spiritual power is real, thinking doesn't make it so.

Btw, if celibacy had any spiritual benefits why do so many priests who are supposed to be celibate rape children?

Oh! Thats the best reply i have seen in this thread!
Finally someone truly discussing ideas, instead of being trigered by my claim and attacking me for it.

Thank you for your reply which i label as the best one now.

Lets starts ,

A god is a being of extremely high spiritual and physical elevation. Even above other Immortals and Daemons.

Thats a different definition , talking about the current mind powers and physical stuff we can measure and so on, i agree with you, in that sense.

So being a God is not a matter of your viewpoint or beliefs. You're either immortal and unkillable or you're not, thinking doesn't change anything here.

Energy cant be destructed nor created.
My body can face death
The real me is always alive
The body is like a horse im riding right now
Beliefs and viewpoints have nothing to do with my claim in opposite , the claim is beyond the brain
Its not black or white
I am God playing a human role now.

You can't go far spiritually by cutting off your relationship with the gods by thinking your already a god, and if one didn't need a connection to the Gods and Daemons to advance then why is the world so spiritually ignorant.

I am a God playing a human role, and i play the role like if i am human but not a God ,i eat, i breath and do whats necessary, i make improvements ,and so on, the same way animals fulfill their duties .. i never said i cut relations to the Gods in opposite, realising i am God doesnt mean i will be against my family, i play my normal roles..

Thinking fanciful things doesn't change anything. If you get shot in the head you're going to die for example.

I agree yet dont agree, i cant get deep in that i dont know how well its aligned with JoS i dont want the thread to be rejected, lately im doing my best and im grateful that admins never rejected a thread or reply again im trying my best.
Concerning what you asked about celibacy again, it may be labeled as promoting celibacy, i prefer not to talk about that currently until i understand the JoS point of views concerning that so i know how to phrase my opinion.

Thank you so much for that reply

 

[Goldenwings]

Ins

Man, I was just trying to tell you to stop thinking you’re some god just because you didn’t do work or are made by basically essence which ties to “god” in someway, well did you even tame the cosmos or caused a really enormous beneficial change in the world? Whatever it is you’re believing in, it’s crazy and it doesn’t align with any good occult sources.



Godhood requires lifetimes upon lifetimes of serious soul improvement, occult practice and evolving both materially and spiritually, and I’m NOT even there yet. So are you. What you’re claiming is like saying there’s no such thing as needing efforts for outcome, or in the analogy of the third law of physics, no action needed for reaction. It’s like you’re saying you don’t need to do your job to get your paycheck or contribute seriously to a company for a promotion or raise. Do you touch grass mate or even have a job?

I’m going to have to stop replying to you and begin ignoring you until you really see that you are not right in the head and must change this.

Instead of spending time trying to convincing me of what i am not .

I posted many threads asking many questions.

Ok i am a slave not a God , can you now please check those threads and give answers on what matters instead of trying to talk me out of being on a God Path?

Thank you
Hail Anzar!

 

[Goldenwings]

I am not sure what 0.99$ Gumroad PDF you obtained these "religious views" from, but it is clear you have many misconceptions regarding Zevism and what this path entails.

Unlike other so called "spiritualists" we do not enable delusional grandiosity nor schizophrenia on these forums, but only knowledge which comes straight from the Gods (AKA, 100% facts)

People are trying to help you.

I'd recommend humbling yourself and actually reading through the decade+ worth of material on Library of Thoth first and foremost.

Thanks for your answer but you didnt come up with something new people already said those things , you are just surfing the wave they created

Lets begin with what an amazigh poet said :"I am the Tree being hit my the wood that have been taken from me"

You need to understand that all what you said is fallacy , you said i purchased 0.99$ pdf ( to make other members laugh)

You said i have schizophrenia indirectly by stating its not allowed here

You just made a strawman trying to make members laugh and attacking me without saying anything about my ideas

Humble yourself , and study.

I have posted many questions lately on ask satya , if you really want to contribute you can answer my questions , i need answers i want to learn, please check them.

i see what you are trying to do now, trying to feed on me and trying to be the guy making people laugh im standing here like a King knowing my worth. Debate ideas not me.

so that you dont put yourself in those situations you are but a parody to other comments.

 

[Goldenwings]

I am not sure what 0.99$ Gumroad PDF you obtained these "religious views" from, but it is clear you have many misconceptions regarding Zevism and what this path entails.

Unlike other so called "spiritualists" we do not enable delusional grandiosity nor schizophrenia on these forums, but only knowledge which comes straight from the Gods (AKA, 100% facts)

People are trying to help you.

I'd recommend humbling yourself and actually reading through the decade+ worth of material on Library of Thoth first and foremost.

I will teach you what a fallacy is and i will you how i perceive your comment, imagine you post a thread, instead of me discussing idea i answer this way:

" You have mental illness, usually people like you are cuck , last year you were mentaly ill you thought you are enlightned you went to a forest meditated there then a local tribe came said they saw your good deeds and want to initiate you, you did a 6 day ritual then in last day you discovered that the last ritual is a homosexual act you refused they said preferences are just illusion of the mind and raped you while declaring you a god and thats why now when someone claim he is god you get triggered"

Thats how you answred me , we can all do that, but thats childish, talk about idea not me.
Thank you
Hail Zeus!

 

[Hierophant]

@Goldenwings

You're right it's a "different definition". I'm assuming you think you're a god because you're soul is immortal, but the soul isn't immortal by default. The soul only has the potential to become immortal, which is why the ancients said "Only the strong live forever". You have to do the spiritual work, improvement of karma, knowledge+wisdom acquisition to eventually reach this state. Just because energy can't be created or destroyed is in no way an assurance that the energy that comprises your soul won't scatter and dissipate. And it can dissipate, which is what happens to ghosts with weak souls who don't reincarnate in time. This is called the 2nd death or true death.

I posted many threads asking many questions.

If you are already a living god right now, then why are you here seeking answers to questions? A living god needs to be taught about the state he's already on? Interesting.

 

[Hierophant]

The idea that your soul is default immortal without you having to earn it potentially "over lifetimes" is a Jewish invention they put inside Christianity. No don't believe you have to work for it like all the ancient pagans believed, just drink the blood and eat the flesh of a jew on a stick and poof you're saved, you're soul is immortal now. The idea that the soul is immortal on it's own only exists because of abrahamic religions. In modern times it's just been enhanced with the law of conservation of energy, but it's fundamentally flawed.

The reason celibacy is harmful is that it doesn't lead to the spiritual transmutation of the sexual energy. The sexual energy just builds up and up with no release leading to mental issues. Sexuality is scared and fundamental to humans, it's repression is unnatural thus harmful. The short term "effects" that may be experienced doesn't mean that long term damage isn't being created, the same way that certain diets that aren't actually healthy can show "positive" results at first. But people are short sighted only giving up their errors once their suffering tremendously from them.

 

[Voice of Enki [SG]]

Oh! Thats the best reply i have seen in this thread!
Finally someone truly discussing ideas, instead of being trigered by my claim and attacking me for it.

Thank you for your reply which i label as the best one now.

Lets starts ,

Thats a different definition , talking about the current mind powers and physical stuff we can measure and so on, i agree with you, in that sense.


Energy cant be destructed nor created.
My body can face death
The real me is always alive
The body is like a horse im riding right now
Beliefs and viewpoints have nothing to do with my claim in opposite , the claim is beyond the brain
Its not black or white
I am God playing a human role now.

I am a God playing a human role, and i play the role like if i am human but not a God ,i eat, i breath and do whats necessary, i make improvements ,and so on, the same way animals fulfill their duties .. i never said i cut relations to the Gods in opposite, realising i am God doesnt mean i will be against my family, i play my normal roles..

I agree yet dont agree, i cant get deep in that i dont know how well its aligned with JoS i dont want the thread to be rejected, lately im doing my best and im grateful that admins never rejected a thread or reply again im trying my best.
Concerning what you asked about celibacy again, it may be labeled as promoting celibacy, i prefer not to talk about that currently until i understand the JoS point of views concerning that so i know how to phrase my opinion.

Thank you so much for that reply

What do you think a God is?

Gods are Gods. Not Human.

 

[Vivek]

[...]

I read through all of your threads. 99% of it is unintelligble drivel. Watching 2 YouTube videos on logical fallacies and TikTok occultism will not make you a debate genius, nor writing fanfic where you are Goku Super Saiyan God will turn you into one either, simply because you crave to feel important without doing any real effort.

 

[Goldenwings]

What do you think a God is?

Gods are Gods. Not Human.

Thank you for that reply, very short yet getting straight to the point without attacking me.

I dont think Gods are "ONLY" Gods especially in our religion ( i dont mean they are not Gods i mean the point that a God is a God thats it. Is debatable) , a God can be a God and can be a specific chakra right, i read that somewhere in the forum i dont know if its outdated, that proves that Gods arent literally "ONLY" Gods ( from that perspective) and if a God can be a chakra, is the chakra we talking about God? So we dont go by literal meaning ( in my opinion, correct me if wrong im new here)

From another perspective, i dont know if here the idea that some humans are hybrids and or descendent of Gods is supported , thus i dont want to elaborate on this ( please teach me concerning this)

Now from another perspective , arent we to animals what Gods are to us? Arent we Gods and giants from some angle of views? ( This isnt really a serious point i just loved the idea but still it has some truth in it since what made the Gods Gods are us or themselves, for one to be a God either he should claim it or and enforce it or and someone else or some group recognising him as a God otherwise the word God wouldnt even exist)

Another perspective, in my opinion the ultimate way to accelerate transformation is by being in the goal at least with your consciousness , if this is path that leads to becoming a God why not start affirming and feeling it , time doest exist , all that is is now , so your goal does't exist in the future , if in the future you will become God just affirm it now , its all being in the now.( I didnt want to write that i just felt inspiration what i wanted to write is the next paragraph)

Who said we are humans? Some claim we are animals some claim we are alien hybrid , from where even the word human came, we called ourself humans , we invented what a human is and we live stuck in this box that we created. The definition itself is disempowering the moment you get lost in thinking you are human your potential drops you make your goals smaller i can then talk about humans being but animals and go on and on and you will feel less and less significant and disempowred, when if in opposite we start talking about the human potential to be a God now we can talk about probability of finding a way to become immortal a way to take our consciousness from the body and put it in a robot, a way to live in another planets , you will start thinking big ( i didnt want to say that just got inspired what i wanted to say actually is in next paragraph)

The religions that oppose us all go in direction that there is a Big God whom you should bow down to or he will torture you , you should also know you may never even see his face let alone becoming him , the highest reward he will give you is you being in fantasy land after death.

Satanism is the opposite ( i dont want to go in details to avoid crossing a line set by JoS ) but religion of Zeus is about you becoming a God( final destiny) the complete opposite thus ( in my opinion) any techniques / opinions / knowledge making me feel a slave and disempowered = inaccurate, any teaching / opinions / knowledge making me feel empowered = accurate.

The end of path of disempowerment is being a slave , the end of that of empowerement is being a God

In the slave path you walk the slave walk
In the path of God what else are you being besides a God.If you watch a movie about how a billionaire became a billionaire will you see him a billionaire from the start of the movie or will you see him as a homeless and only after end of movie you act surprised like if you didnt know he will become a billionaire, i see my path like that , zooming out, seing where this leads makes me know who i truly am .

( All this reply i didnt intend it, i got inspired to write this way i didnt talk about things i wanted to talk about, what i wanted to talk about i alrezdy mentioned in previous replies , im grateful i wrote something new here)

Hail zeus!

 

[Goldenwings]

I read through all of your threads. 99% of it is unintelligble drivel. Watching 2 YouTube videos on logical fallacies and TikTok occultism will not make you a debate genius, nor writing fanfic where you are Goku Super Saiyan God will turn you into one either, simply because you crave to feel important without doing any real effort.

Please know

Those who know know

Please know

Those who know know who knows and knows who is .who:known to knowers who know what those who know know.

 

[Goldenwings]

@Goldenwings

You're right it's a "different definition". I'm assuming you think you're a god because you're soul is immortal, but the soul isn't immortal by default. The soul only has the potential to become immortal, which is why the ancients said "Only the strong live forever". You have to do the spiritual work, improvement of karma, knowledge+wisdom acquisition to eventually reach this state. Just because energy can't be created or destroyed is in no way an assurance that the energy that comprises your soul won't scatter and dissipate. And it can dissipate, which is what happens to ghosts with weak souls who don't reincarnate in time. This is called the 2nd death or true death.



If you are already a living god right now, then why are you here seeking answers to questions? A living god needs to be taught about the state he's already on? Interesting.

I love replying to you. Since you zre not attacking you truly sat what you think and wait for me to say what i think.
Thanks a lot for respecting me(yourself).

The first part of your reply:
Even if the soul is immortal there is no where to go, i always exist in a way or in another. trillions and trillions ans trillions of years later i will be born again when everyone thought im gone , please think of eternity, every single game in the casino if you play it for eternity you will win. What is the chance? 1 in a trillion? I can try for eternity so a trillion is like one in ten.

What happens to the soul whzt happens after dezth and so on , i see the most important thing that you realise you are consscious ( meditate on this now you are conscious , thats very crazy if you think of it) and know where you are now

When you understand that, its not useless because you couldnt grow wings instantly actually its crazy, imagine you watch an ant. Then it stops walking and start questioning what she is doing in life , starts realising she is conscious znd so on, you will see this as a crazy phenomena , you are dong the same thing by the way if we compare you to how big is the universe

The main idea its big difference living and doing while you are conscious compared yo when you are like zombi and think you are living (+80% of decisions or more come from the subconscious) 90% thoughts that you have today you will have them tomorrow , the same ones , you are stuck , after waking up you can at least choose while being awake

Lets put it in a simple way.
Is being a good person a good goal to have? Yes
While striving for it can you set your self image to good?
Yes
Replace Good with God
Whats wrong with affirming the end.

I tried bringing something knew i dont want to reply using same concepts to avoid this being boring and to touch different concepts.

You are saying if im a god why seek answers , i believe answers are within

I believe that the world is within too its projection of the mind , seeking answers feom what appears without is within. From thzt perspective ( my opinion and as i said i try yo day new things yo avoid idead being re-stated)


Hail Zeus!

 

[Goldenwings]

The idea that your soul is default immortal without you having to earn it potentially "over lifetimes" is a Jewish invention they put inside Christianity. No don't believe you have to work for it like all the ancient pagans believed, just drink the blood and eat the flesh of a jew on a stick and poof you're saved, you're soul is immortal now. The idea that the soul is immortal on it's own only exists because of abrahamic religions. In modern times it's just been enhanced with the law of conservation of energy, but it's fundamentally flawed.

The reason celibacy is harmful is that it doesn't lead to the spiritual transmutation of the sexual energy. The sexual energy just builds up and up with no release leading to mental issues. Sexuality is scared and fundamental to humans, it's repression is unnatural thus harmful. The short term "effects" that may be experienced doesn't mean that long term damage isn't being created, the same way that certain diets that aren't actually healthy can show "positive" results at first. But people are short sighted only giving up their errors once their suffering tremendously from them.

I agree that one should work and fulfill his duty

To answer your question about celibacy ( i am not promoting it)

The problem is not from celibacy itself ( not promoting it)

Same with plants used as drugs the problem is not the plant itself ( im against drugs)

Plant is a plant.

Celibacy when forced on yourself or on someone else. The sexual energy get so crazy that it wants to leave and if the person keeps supressing , now he can do crazy things , just think of someone watching Corn , after orgasm he may be disgusted by the fetish he had few min ago , think of it that way , the biggest ( SUPRESSED) the sexual energy the more extreme the fetish.

Hail Zeus!

 

[616Taysha]

@Goldenwings

Ground yourself, otherwise with your incessant spouting of nonsense, you are at the risk of getting banned.

 

[616Taysha]

And if you do any drugs - hopefully you do not - save yourself and quit that jewish poison, as it can be messing with your head.

 

[Voice of Enki [SG]]

Thank you for that reply, very short yet getting straight to the point without attacking me.

I dont think Gods are "ONLY" Gods especially in our religion ( i dont mean they are not Gods i mean the point that a God is a God thats it. Is debatable) , a God can be a God and can be a specific chakra right, i read that somewhere in the forum i dont know if its outdated, that proves that Gods arent literally "ONLY" Gods ( from that perspective) and if a God can be a chakra, is the chakra we talking about God? So we dont go by literal meaning ( in my opinion, correct me if wrong im new here)

From another perspective, i dont know if here the idea that some humans are hybrids and or descendent of Gods is supported , thus i dont want to elaborate on this ( please teach me concerning this)

Now from another perspective , arent we to animals what Gods are to us? Arent we Gods and giants from some angle of views? ( This isnt really a serious point i just loved the idea but still it has some truth in it since what made the Gods Gods are us or themselves, for one to be a God either he should claim it or and enforce it or and someone else or some group recognising him as a God otherwise the word God wouldnt even exist)

Another perspective, in my opinion the ultimate way to accelerate transformation is by being in the goal at least with your consciousness , if this is path that leads to becoming a God why not start affirming and feeling it , time doest exist , all that is is now , so your goal does't exist in the future , if in the future you will become God just affirm it now , its all being in the now.( I didnt want to write that i just felt inspiration what i wanted to write is the next paragraph)

Who said we are humans? Some claim we are animals some claim we are alien hybrid , from where even the word human came, we called ourself humans , we invented what a human is and we live stuck in this box that we created. The definition itself is disempowering the moment you get lost in thinking you are human your potential drops you make your goals smaller i can then talk about humans being but animals and go on and on and you will feel less and less significant and disempowred, when if in opposite we start talking about the human potential to be a God now we can talk about probability of finding a way to become immortal a way to take our consciousness from the body and put it in a robot, a way to live in another planets , you will start thinking big ( i didnt want to say that just got inspired what i wanted to say actually is in next paragraph)

The religions that oppose us all go in direction that there is a Big God whom you should bow down to or he will torture you , you should also know you may never even see his face let alone becoming him , the highest reward he will give you is you being in fantasy land after death.

Satanism is the opposite ( i dont want to go in details to avoid crossing a line set by JoS ) but religion of Zeus is about you becoming a God( final destiny) the complete opposite thus ( in my opinion) any techniques / opinions / knowledge making me feel a slave and disempowered = inaccurate, any teaching / opinions / knowledge making me feel empowered = accurate.

The end of path of disempowerment is being a slave , the end of that of empowerement is being a God

In the slave path you walk the slave walk
In the path of God what else are you being besides a God.If you watch a movie about how a billionaire became a billionaire will you see him a billionaire from the start of the movie or will you see him as a homeless and only after end of movie you act surprised like if you didnt know he will become a billionaire, i see my path like that , zooming out, seing where this leads makes me know who i truly am .

( All this reply i didnt intend it, i got inspired to write this way i didnt talk about things i wanted to talk about, what i wanted to talk about i alrezdy mentioned in previous replies , im grateful i wrote something new here)

Hail zeus!

I'll explain to you, hopefully it will be clarified,

Chakra's being referred to as "Gods" is not literal, but allegorical. In the literal sense, or reality, Chakra's are not Gods, it is just a part of the anatomy of your Soul. In some Ancient texts, they refer to Chakra's as Gods in the form of allegory, either to disguise knowledge from the eyes of unknowing people, or to help explain spiritual concepts and relations for initiates.

In neither cases it is meant literally that Chakra's are Gods.


If we would try to compare ourselves, humans, to Gods, then animals and humans are significantly closer to each other than humans are to Gods.

Even the lowest ranking Demons are on a different dimension and octave of existence compared to us humans or any lower form of life. We do not exist on the same reality. They can interact with us and change our reality, but we cannot change theirs.

On higher levels, High Gods are so far beyond what anything human is, Their True essence and Being are incomprehensible and mysterious even to Demons.

Our Gods are called Gods, because They are Supreme Beings in all respects, They govern and control universal forces and even pan universal concepts beyond the 4 dimensional, They are beyond time and space, and even beyond duality.

Nothing human can remotely embody this in any way, even Demons who are qualitatively existing outside our realm of existence cannot approach that level.

In simple terms, the difference between humans and Demons is far greater than the difference between humans and animals, then, the difference between lower order Gods and Demons is greater than the difference between Demons and animals, and the difference between High Gods and lower order Gods is greater than the difference between lower order Gods and animals.

Therefore, what a God is, is a Pan Universal Supreme being, even the lowest order God is still that. They are Gods not because some humans or lesser beings titled Them so, but because They are Ultimate Beings in reality.


In rare cases, there are special incarnations among humans. Ascended beings, already at or above the Magnum Opus level will incarnate on Earth to help humanity evolve or pass certain difficulties and severe times which require a direct hand from a higher being.

We could call them incarnated Demons, beings who are already Demons but who incarnate here to assist humanity or do certain important missions and tasks.

When they incarnate, they have 1 thing in common. They surpass human standards entirely. They are superior to humans in too many ways, and cannot compare.

They have knowledge which surpasses any human, they have siddhi's which are out of reach for humans, they accomplish things that are impossible for humans. They are greater than merely great personalities, or great humans, greater than Hero's, as they already are Hero's before their present incarnation.

When such beings decide to incarnate, they give up a lot of things, as only part of their power and consciousness can incarnate directly with them, and they become subject to the constraints of Earthly existence, but they very much are still Demons, their actions and abilities will always prove this, and through spiritual work they activate and regain their latent abilities over time.

There are extremely few incarnations as these. Rarely ever more than 1 in a generation (I know of 0 instances in recorded history where there was more than 1 present at a time), and they never fail to make their mark on history.

Nothing in such a persons life is ordinary.

That is the highest form of incarnation possible into a human, an incarnate Demon.


With all that said, I can tell you with 0 doubt that you are a human, and that you have a lot of confusion and delusion in you stemming from ignorance.

To change that, you first have to accept and come to terms with the reality that there is a lot of ignorance in you, and that you are certainly just a human.

Once you can come to terms with this reality, you can open up to understanding and knowledge, and you can overcome the state of ignorance, and formally step onto the Spiritual Path to advance as a being.


When you are human, you live in the human reality, and therefore you must grow here, do your life mission here, burn karma, and master the human existence, and do great things, become a great human.

Only after you become a great human can you advance to become a Demon.

You are human now, and so you exist as a human, and must live as a human, pretending to be something which you are not is not how you advance, instead this causes you to remain stuck in delusional states that lead to stagnation and even regression, or eventually, madness.

As a human, you become empowered by accepting first the reality and discarding delusion, and then taking the reigns of your destiny to take powerful actions that propel you forwards in life and spiritually on the path of the Gods.

Once you master the Earthly existence, you can graduate from the lower realm and ascend as a Demon to further the Path towards Godhood.

 

[Vivek]

[...]

"Before being a God, what have you done to be a man?"

Zeus' Ethics: A - Into A Human

 

[Goldenwings]

I'll explain to you, hopefully it will be clarified,

Chakra's being referred to as "Gods" is not literal, but allegorical. In the literal sense, or reality, Chakra's are not Gods, it is just a part of the anatomy of your Soul. In some Ancient texts, they refer to Chakra's as Gods in the form of allegory, either to disguise knowledge from the eyes of unknowing people, or to help explain spiritual concepts and relations for initiates.

In neither cases it is meant literally that Chakra's are Gods.


If we would try to compare ourselves, humans, to Gods, then animals and humans are significantly closer to each other than humans are to Gods.

Even the lowest ranking Demons are on a different dimension and octave of existence compared to us humans or any lower form of life. We do not exist on the same reality. They can interact with us and change our reality, but we cannot change theirs.

On higher levels, High Gods are so far beyond what anything human is, Their True essence and Being are incomprehensible and mysterious even to Demons.

Our Gods are called Gods, because they are Supreme Beings in all respects, they govern and control universal forces and even pan universal concepts beyond the 4 dimensional, they are beyond time and space, and even beyond duality.

Nothing human can remotely embody this in any way, even Demons who are qualitatively existing outside our realm of existence cannot approach that level.

In simple terms, the difference between humans and Demons is far greater than the difference between humans and animals, then, the difference between lower order Gods and Demons is greater than the difference between Demons and animals, and the difference between High Gods and lower order Gods is greater than the difference between lower order Gods and animals.

Therefore, what a God is, is a Pan Universal Supreme being, even the lowest order God is still that. They are Gods not because some humans or lesser beings titled them so, but because they are ultimate beings in reality.


In rare cases, there are special incarnations among humans, ascended beings, already at or above the Magnum Opus level will incarnate into Earth to help humanity evolve or pass certain difficulties and severe times which require a direct hand from a higher being.

We could call them incarnated Demons, beings who are already Demons but who incarnate here to assist humanity or do certain important missions and tasks.

When they incarnate, they have 1 thing in common. They surpass human standards entirely. They are superior to humans in too many ways, and cannot compare.

They have knowledge which surpasses any human, they have siddhi's which are out of reach for humans, they accomplish things that are impossible for humans. They are greater than merely great personalities, or great humans, greater than Hero's, as they already are Hero's before their present incarnation.

When such beings decide to incarnate, they give up a lot of things, as only part of their power and consciousness can incarnate directly with them, and they become subject to the constraints of Earthly existence, but they very much are still Demons, their actions and abilities will always prove this.

There are extremely few incarnations as these. Rarely ever more than 1 in a generation (I know of 0 instances in recorded history where there was more than 1 present at a time), and they never fail to make their mark on history.

Nothing in such a persons life is ordinary.

That is the highest form of incarnation possible into a human, an incarnate Demon.


With all that said, I can tell you with 0 doubt that you are a human, and that you have a lot of confusion and delusion in you stemming from ignorance.

To change that, you first have to accept and come to terms with the reality that there is a lot of ignorance in you, and that you are certainly just a human.

Once you can come to terms with this reality, you can open up to understanding and knowledge, and you can overcome the state of ignorance, and formally step onto the Spiritual Path to advance as a being.


When you are human, you live in the human reality, and therefore you must grow here, do your life mission here, burn karma, and master the human existence, and do great things, become a great human.

Only after you become a great human can you advance to become a Demon.

You are human now, and so you exist as a human, and must live as a human, pretending to be something which you are not is not how you advance, instead this causes you to remain stuck in delusional states that lead to stagnation and even regression, or eventually, madness.

As a human, you become empowered by accepting first the reality and discarding delusion, and then taking the reigns of your destiny to take powerful actions that propel you forwards in life and spiritually on the path of the Gods.

Once you master the Earthly existence, you can graduate from the lower realm and ascend as a Demon to further the Path towards Godhood.

Thank you for your reply.

I agree with most of what you said, besides where you told me to"accept " that i am human, the way i answered you , i tried touching new things here , so that the thread does not start having repetitive answers.

The main reason why im considering myself a God is, i am not the body for its a horse im riding in this lifetime, i am not the knowledge i have nor the brain and so on until nothing is left but my consciousness . Thats one of the main reasons. Second, even if this sound like a subject we can debate, in reality we can only debate techniques and so on aimed at progressing in life

But the knowing that you are God, only the one who experience it can know what it is. Its not possible even to put it in words its like if i am trying to describe the taste of sugar to one who never tasted it( in all my reply i am not talking about you, thats just my way of talking to say what i want to say)

So if there is one thing in that i will never do is drop my divine nature, and if i do, it will be forgetting it , instead of really losing it .

Concerning siddhi's , i agree with what you said but, of what use are siddhi's if you dont even know yourself, in my opinion knowing the truth is more important than any superpowers that the truth will give you, all are side effects are all consequences , the cause is what matter, the knowledge of being the God

From what i understood, your whole argument is based on power, if the Gods can do that or exist on that plane and you dont , it means you arent a God .

If some human using some technology put me in an animal body now without me losing memory, will i identify with being the animal? I dont know if here you believe in reincarnation, if you believe it take what i will say now literally if you dont take it as an example, being reincarnated multiple times in multiple bodies in multiple forms , which one of them are me ? None.

So why should i now confine myself to this experience like if i dont know? Even i am the weakest being in the universe that wont change the fact that i am a God, be it A rock, an ant , a human whatever

The role im playing may suggest the opposite, i may have been delt bad cards, maybe i am been delt the best cards who knows? But i am not losing my real self , its a film and i am playing a role, whether you perceive the role weak or strong , it doesnt concern me since i am not the role and i am not even the one playing it , i am just watching , even if im in it.

So, being God (in my opinion, i dont encourage people to believe that, i am just making my points clear, and my intent in this forum is to learn) is:

-Not something to be earned
To earn is related to the body or mind whatever , its just not me how can my consciousness earn?

-Not something to be deserved
Who dares to decide if i deserve or it , people cant agree on simple topics let alone complex subjects, every one has different opinions , which one should we rely on to determine if i deserve it
But wait , will he use his "brain" to determine that?
I am noy even identifying with mine, let alone yours.

-The truth

-The origin, becoming God is not about becoming , in fact its about remembring , reclaiming whats lost.

By the way there is a thing you should consider, while dreaming , you are at effect, everything happens to you , you have normal powers , sometimew worse than real life you cant even run, the first time you discover lucid dreaming , you become the most powerful one in the dream, lucid dreaming was always there, so you always had the power. And the change was radical
Imagine there is something in this life similar to lucid dreaming, something that in 1 seconde make you have all superpowers and control everything at will instantly

Dont imagine you have it , imagine it exists.supposing that, You are a moment away from becoming a "God" with your definition, of a God having huge powers, knowing that will being God be of same value to you? The answer is no, what makes you see it as something extremly far, is you think it takes lifetimes and lifetimes to be achieved, i cant accept that not because i cant handle the truth, but because being God is the truth, think of me as 2 parts , The God, and the Slave , the Slave is the one bound by many things , genetics , the mass population beliefs , and so on ..

When you see the slave , it doesnt mean its all that is there, thats what you see , but, me talking to you now, im being the God , while perfoming what i should perform through the slave , everything you are using to removing the divinity part of me is not even me, my ideas always change, my brain, i dont trust it , the physical powers and so on , i believe all reality is projected from my mind , its all happening in me , so how can it even impress me, it impress the body or the mind , but im not that, even being impressed i something related to body or mind how can i be impressed when i dont identify to those who are being impressed

How can i not be a God where i am not identified with anything that you think i am not a God because of.

Rich or beggar
Scientisy or Dumb
Monk or (opposite of monk)
If i am this or if i am that has nothing to do with who i am, since i dont identify with all that, being rich i am not rich i am , being a beggar i am not a beggar i am, and so on

The physical world also is weird ,anything you touch you dont even touch and anything you feel or see or taste or think its always inside of you, all the phenomena of life are inside of you, i dont like to say crazy things, but i really dont believe that something exists outside of me.
And its a unified field. Which appears to be many.( My opinion)

If i drop being " God"
It will only to say i am instead of i am God
If i drop the i am
It will be only to sit in silence
Never coming back to i am a human named this, i work at this this is my body this is my wife these are my kids, i am very small those are giants,if i come back to that , i would rather believe i am the King of kings , if you consider the second false i consider the first false too , so both being illusions , both being limitations , both being clothes why not choose clothes i like.

I see that the truth is finding the things you think you are , and then think you are not them, and you arent even the opposite , nothing, just nothing.thats what i believe. Thats what i know.

 

[Goldenwings]

And if you do any drugs - hopefully you do not - save yourself and quit that jewish poison, as it can be messing with your head.

Thank you so much, i never tried drugs i dont know the taste of wine.
The second part" as it can be messing with your head" made me laugh