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[Gearshift]

Besides EIS(ISA) which I'm not a big fan of using a binding, freezing rune on myself.

Is there any rune or mantra that can help with entering a trance?

It's not so much I can't enter a trance I've had drivers trance and perhaps while meditating very gentle trance that can't be felt.

I want to ask is there any way to sensitize the trance and aggrandize it?

Should ISA be used? Isn't it a malefic rune?

I guess doing 33 or 44 vibrations of ISA and programing it for void, stilling the mind using black energy would help.

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Also a short while back I did 10 ISA and it affected me made me a dull. Is there a specific reason why ISA image I had in mind glowed white while possessing a black aura. I thought the idea of color magick is to see the Rune in black.

Is that normal? Container of all colors.

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Finally exactly what is trance?

I'm not trying to sound silly. Does it mean my thoughts shut off? i.e. mental chatter/background music?

I can pause my mind for a solid second or two. But the music and chatter doesn't stop.

And yes I've done void or mindfulness or whatever you want to call it. But I don't exactly know what to do.

It seems like when I breath my mind fills up with chatter.

Is trance a silencing meditation? does trance = blank minded?

Also is vision a form of breaking void? If I see an image in my head forming while blank minded to the small bit that I can. Is that a violation of breaking void thus void = null?

What exactly precisely is void? i.e. total absolution of thought? Am I to be a blank-minded robot or is it more than that.

And yes as you can tell I posses very little trance and void self-experience.

Are there any besides JOS ways of trancing out? If my mind is very chatty, probably more so than other people.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

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When we describe these yin concepts (like trance or void), you are assuming that the yin element of these actions dominates or destroys any yang activity (like ceasing consciousness). This is not true at all.

In reality, each of these actions serves as a yin container/balancer to increase the potentiality of your yang activity to alter the fabric of reality.

Trance is simply a way to calm the body and mind, making it easier to interact with energy. This makes it easier to manifest changes, because the subconscious is more active.

The purpose of void is not for cessation of thought, but for controlling of thought. A physical analogy would be like if someone asked you to hold your hand still, to improve one's nimbleness. That doesn't mean you are going to turn into a zombie.

Void is an ongoing practice and is not made "null" just because you had 1 thought slip through out of many. Over time, you will get better and better. Just keep trying, rather than immediately assuming you had "failed".

If you don't want to use Isa, then Berkano can be used for inducing calm.

 

[GoldenxChild1]

Can someone link me on how to use the forums properly so I don't have to reply with a whole quote etc

I can't find it.

Thx

 

[Henu the Great]

Can someone link me on how to use the forums properly so I don't have to reply with a whole quote etc

I can't find it.

Thx

The forum guide topic is pinned on the first page of this subforum. And you can play around with posting in the preview mode to see how quoting and other features can be used.

 

[Gearshift]

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When we describe these yin concepts (like trance or void), you are assuming that the yin element of these actions dominates or destroys any yang activity (like ceasing consciousness). This is not true at all.

In reality, each of these actions serves as a yin container/balancer to increase the potentiality of your yang activity to alter the fabric of reality.

Trance is simply a way to calm the body and mind, making it easier to interact with energy. This makes it easier to manifest changes, because the subconscious is more active.

The purpose of void is not for cessation of thought, but for controlling of thought. A physical analogy would be like if someone asked you to hold your hand still, to improve one's nimbleness. That doesn't mean you are going to turn into a zombie.

Void is an ongoing practice and is not made "null" just because you had 1 thought slip through out of many. Over time, you will get better and better. Just keep trying, rather than immediately assuming you had "failed".

If you don't want to use Isa, then Berkano can be used for inducing calm.

Very interesting thank you. I can't believe how much I overcomplicate things. I've lately been meditating quite a bit working on negative karma removal and cleaning/breathing energy protection i.e. basic aop/and runic protection, I recall you replying soon after starting off you should perform runic protection to offset negativity in a sharper way.

You have no FUCKING idea how succinct and dominating your message was. It hit me in such a profound way, that you basically blow my mind having been at this 20 years now. Even though I should have known better.

I overcomplicate tremendously, once again thank you.

The reason why void is the act of thought banishment a shortwhile back I began to work on my major chakras. And I had hallucinations basically I used ISA and it slowed me down a tad. I noticed one thought appear in my head didn't want to think of it and turned it into dust. I've never used hallucinogenic substances but the images I received I could recall the memory of that thought but the very image I couldn't formulate it back.

I knew that I blew up a thought and know the memory of it. But when it came to reform the thought I couldn't

I don't know if I should state Astro chart stuff, but my mind is very balanced despite being in 8th house leo i.e. Mercury.

So my Mercury is in the worst sign i.e. detriment. But despite possessing this mind as the astrologer and former website Wayman Stewart plus I recall searching a few astro sites.

My mind is balanced between logic and illogic and I can throw curve balls from right field at people. I posses such an odd mind linked to my emotions. I am Cancarian after all. My friend sometimes is in awe of my intuitive perceptive properties. I can formulate my own personal answers and self-analyze to give my feelings and thoughts.

That my mind is working in balance. That is why sometimes I speak and throw curve balls at people I talk to.

Anyways once again thank you. I feel much better contemplating your message.

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Also one more question. I use multi-rune vibrations. I vibrate(I prefer Gothic vibrations): Thauris, Algs, Sauil, Bairkan and then I used to use Aihwa(unites the energies harmoniously).

Is it wrong to unite the protective forces with Aihwa?

Or is it better to eliminate Aihwa and let them work in their own way?

i.e. Runic AoP

 

[Henu the Great]

Finally exactly what is trance?

This should help you as it contains the information you seek, and more.

Advancement and Meditation for Beginners Part 1 - https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=59214

 

[Gearshift]

Finally exactly what is trance?

This should help you as it contains the information you seek, and more.

Advancement and Meditation for Beginners Part 1 - https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=59214

Henu...WTF?! O.O Thank you!

My goodness I cannot believe I never ran into this sermon by Blitz, this should be stickied somewhere so people see. Once again Thank you!

BTW at Blitz or Henu, it states conscious breathing?

So is Blitz trying to state that mindfulness is a form of anti-meditation?

Mindfulness or breath awareness i.e. you focus on breathing without control.

Or is mindfulness something else? For the people who don't know mindfulness it's the basic buddhist meditation taught everywhere now a days especially.

Thank you Henu, I'm sorry for all my shit, I've been doing healing work and anti-negative karma and I'm trying to go slow. I keep hearing voices from time to time of take it slower instead of 10 FCM vibrations do 3-5 and I also get voices saying focus more on masculine chakra rather than upper do a little unbalance to help your soul out.

As Stormblood mentioned overgrounded > overcharged, sometime ago.

BTW I have one more question. The voices that I hear I did Akasha vibration and breath in akasha before vibrating for extra akasha. I used it to balance my body and I went into a state of breathing as if I've been drowning for like 30 seconds. Same thing happened when I did brown energy from the Earth up to my aura and soul and programmed it for grounding and centering.

Is it normal to experience a shock at grounding/centering?

The voices I hear state you've been so used to high chakras that your like a zombie and your body is dying for attention.

I'll admit I do ignore my physical vessel a lot, I'm mentally and spiritually intense.

I know imbalance is bad but my upper chakras are TOO overpowering the voice was like your female chakras are too active your like a new ager focus on the lower. When I pray to Satan for communicating with him I heard a voice saying focus on going slower your opening your soul to fast.

Is it okay to go a little slow with soul work and focus on cleaning, protection, purification, healing, and anti-negative karma before going in deeper for higher work?

I'm simply doing Clean/AOP/Healing Work/Anti-negative karma, general working every negative karma/EZ spin/ and H/K yoga.

Also the voices told me stop Merkaba and chakra spinning to the speed of light your blasting your soul too much and you need to go slow.

TL;DR: Is it okay to go slower and take your time?

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

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That was JG NP who wrote that article, not me.

I wanted to give my input here and say that if you are asking if it is ok to "go slow", then you could be mentally assuming that anything other than blasting your soul is a lack of progress.

In reality, we are supposed to be doing lots of cleaning, fixing hangups and deficiencies, and so on. Raw power is easy to obtain, but obtaining structured or balanced power is much harder. Large karmic deficiencies/imbalances are what cause someone to fail or crumble. These take time to fix, and that is where a decent amount of effort should be spent resolving, rather than additional rounds of empowerment.

Success comes from a body and soul that has been corrected to exhibit positive patterns within life, not just from raw power (which can empower negative patterns, too). Therefore, someone who wants to truly advance more quickly would put effort into this, rather than rushing empowerment at the expense of everything else.

If you were told to work on your lower chakras more, then do this. Regarding your physical body itself, you can raise and direct energies like Uruz towards improving the health and quality of your body, in addition to more yoga.
Furthermore, you can do the rituals of Gods like Baalzebul or Andras, among many options.

The "drowning" state of breathing, if I am assuming correctly, can happen when the body is forced to calm down quickly. If my theory is correct, I think it is something with a CO2 release from the tissue of the body, being released through the lungs.

 

[Draconi666]

What kind of souls incarnate mixed races? I guess satanic souls don’t enter these? So these are completely new souls mostly? Or what…

 

[Theserpentrises1666]

How do you exactly start a working or sun square? Like what are the steps of successfully do magick? Is really as easy as HPS Maxine makes it seem on the JoS

 

[Henu the Great]

How do you exactly start a working or sun square? Like what are the steps of successfully do magick? Is really as easy as HPS Maxine makes it seem on the JoS

First, pick an appropriate date for the working at hand. Use the Satanic Calendar as an aid! When the Moon is relevant to the task at hand, look at the phase of the Moon. The most potent effects can be achieved by timing the spell with planetary forces just right. Like having a tailwind when running outside. When the timing is average or suboptimal one has to work harder for the same effect as with better timing.

Then it is a matter of the three steps of the witchcraft. Information in JoS regarding that...

The duration of the working depends on the method chosen and the goal of the working. It can be anything from one-time to permanent.

The more skilled and experienced the mage is, the better the results are. That is it in a nutshell.

 

[Henu the Great]

What kind of souls incarnate mixed races? I guess satanic souls don’t enter these? So these are completely new souls mostly? Or what…

What do you mean not Satanic souls? Every one of us is from the seed of Satan...

These mixed people can be new souls, but also some which are a few hundred years old since there are some areas where admixtures have stabilized. Look at India, the Middle East, and South America as examples.

 

[Henu the Great]

My goodness I cannot believe I never ran into this sermon by Blitz, this should be stickied somewhere so people see. Once again Thank you!

There are literally thousands of pages of useful information at this point. Much of it overlaps with different subjects and posts. We are organizing more and more of this material to be more easily accessible.

So is Blitz trying to state that mindfulness is a form of anti-meditation?

Well, yes, and no. It is very passive in a sense and the outcome does not produce great results in comparison to our methods.

Is it normal to experience a shock at grounding/centering?

It is similar to grounding an electrical device, think about that for a moment.

The voices I hear state you've been so used to high chakras that your like a zombie and your body is dying for attention.

Which is why I recommended yoga asanas multiple times in the past.

Is it okay to go a little slow with soul work and focus on cleaning, protection, purification, healing, and anti-negative karma before going in deeper for higher work?

Go low, and build up slow is a true and tested method for advancing. That I have also been saying for many times in the past. Funny how higher beings state the same.

 

[Draconi666]

What kind of souls incarnate mixed races? I guess satanic souls don’t enter these? So these are completely new souls mostly? Or what…

What do you mean not Satanic souls? Every one of us is from the seed of Satan...

These mixed people can be new souls, but also some which are a few hundred years old since there are some areas where admixtures have stabilized. Look at India, the Middle East, and South America as examples.

Oh, ok, I was confused.

 

[Gearshift]

Alright Thank you Blitz and Henu.

Sorry Naked Pluto I scanned the sermon avatar too quickly and didn't notice it was him.

NP is very top notch member he's kinda like you two Henu and Blitz, sorry NP.

Anyways I'll take it a bit slow. Yeah I'm very plutonic for raw power my astrological chart shows a powerless person even though it's powerful for example possessing Sun trine pluto and Moon inconjunct Pluto. I hope that astro information isn't too detailed. And yes I do posses daddy and mommy issue not in a way like a women but in my own way.

I'll focus more on my physical body and lower chakra.

Today I did 3 vibrations to every chakra for FCM and Z vibration for shoulders along with Gaum 3 for pineal.

I've spoken to these helpful voices and they state stick with sanskrit the God mantra which are powerful make you too angry. I tried in the past doing the Necro glyphs and they make me very angry and I snap a lot it goes away after a few hours but I kinda enter a angered state.

Note: I never have been harmed to told bad things by these helpful voices. In fact they state you shouldn't be listening to us even though we help you out. Be realistic and use your intuition and please study the forums and work with forum members your in desprete need of help. Even though you've been around for 20 years your soul needs to go slow.

I've been told by members that I should be kundalini risen by now 20 years. I've told these voices I'm sorry immediately they state stop don't use the S word so I say excuse me. And they state life has a way of giving each person their own method of evolution.

I know this sounds static but it's faint. But these voices want to help me out. And yes I do take my medication to ground my mind.

I've never had another mental health breakdown.

Once again thank you both. I'll focus on body and trance.

BTW one more thing. Can I use trance to train void? If the trance state slows or stops thoughts does that mean I'm voiding?

I told the voice that and they said it's within the realms of possibility depending on the person but ask the forums anyways to give you extra answers and assistance as they can lead you to other paths especially with the Gods helping out.

Basically the voices said don't use us as 100% answers study and improve yourself so the hands of the Gods can extend out and guide you to a better learning and self-improvement.

(NOTE: These voices are faint and it feels odd it's like they talk through my soul/subconscious/inner voice the other day I contacted Satan and I heard his voice in a much clearer tone but it's still faint and hard to hear. I've never NEVER been told anything negative. Although I did hear the lady who I contact as my succubus do something to my brain and I heard in my head Stop looking at other women and look at me motherfucker. I asked for a polyamorous, no jealousy succubus but she got jealous and wanted me.)

Again it sounds like I'm crazy I hope I never get hospitalized again. But these voices of these entities I communicate always want to help me out.

If I'm crazy I'm sorry I can't help it it's how my mind works. I've had my psychiatrist tell me people ask for lower doses of medicine to hear helpful voices guiding them.

A few years ago before coof I had a lady behind me acting all nervous and I turned around after being told help the lady behind you and I asked her Ma'm would you like to go ahead in line. She declined and said thank you.

So excuse me if I sound crazy or off my rocker. But I've never been harmed by these voices.

Is this normal? hearing voices and communicating with them or just subconscious factors?

Lately I keep having images and flashes of my toddler days and middle high school days.

Is it normal with 36 vibrations of winja, thauris, aihwa and an affirmation to heal my sexual, mental, psychological, and emotional issues for this to happen?

Lately these past few weeks after meditating now for like 2 months beforehand and reaching this point.

Is it normal to feel discombobulated? I noticed the other day the voice that is Satan say do general anti-karma for 90 days not 720 days. I want to do it for as long as possible and flush out all the negative karma but the voice was like your soul is helped so much by entities that the anti-neg karma is very limited. The voice was like you get a lot of help from our people and your soul doesn't have that much negativity.

Is that normal? To be told that?

I know I sound like I"m speaking two way with them. But it's faint and hard to hear.

Are the Gods this helpful? They meet you more than half-way? or are these delusions and crazy scenarios.

I feel great I've lately been feeling better and having my memories come back I'm having memories of my middle and high school days.

I'm cancer but my memory is bad I hated loathed school my friend remembers himself playing video games at 2 years old.

Is it normal for entities and voices to be so helpful? Is this the Gods way of living? Are these entities we call Gods of Gentiles THAT helpful?

 

[sublimesatanist]

Keeping energies high, aura or protection, cleaning of aura, and setting clear boundaries in your mind, and also between people goes a long way. It is such a long way that there is nothing to worry about. Those people are weaklings, after all.

Thank you so kindly for your reply, that's really empowering to know because I have noticed a feeling of liberation and immunity to those things after sometime, which in fact in the past used to make me feel like I was akin to Emily Rose with a triggering fury deep inside my core. I'm glad those juvenile emotion-driven days are behind me when everything looked like a nail, much thanks to dedicated members like yourself, as well as to Father Satan and the Gods.

I have one other question that I'm curious about. What does it mean to have too much earth energy? What are the symptoms of too much or too little? It sounds great almost to a point where you can't get enough of it, based on what I've read in the JoS meditations page. I also find I might already have an earth-based kind of energy, given my earth sign (Virgo), green aura and my infatuation with science, nutrition and the natural world. Negative aspects in myself I find that come up most often pertain to procrastination, indecisiveness, overthinking, feelings of discontentment, inadequacy and so on. Given how I conduct each and every action and routine in my life extremely methodically I naturally struggle with adapting to sudden change. Albeit very rare, when these changes do suddenly come, I enter a state of hyper-focus and hyper-production which has a physical and mental toll.

Elemental energy is probably something I shouldn't be too concerned about at my level, yet I still feel it's important to understand in regards to how it may affect us. I imagine major factors in these imbalances are diet, lifestyle, astrology charts and so on. Thanks again so much for your time and sorry for the long-winded query!

 

[NinRick]

Alright Thank you Blitz and Henu.

Sorry Naked Pluto I scanned the sermon avatar too quickly and didn't notice it was him.

NP is very top notch member he's kinda like you two Henu and Blitz, sorry NP.

Anyways I'll take it a bit slow. Yeah I'm very plutonic for raw power my astrological chart shows a powerless person even though it's powerful for example possessing Sun trine pluto and Moon inconjunct Pluto. I hope that astro information isn't too detailed. And yes I do posses daddy and mommy issue not in a way like a women but in my own way.

I'll focus more on my physical body and lower chakra.

Today I did 3 vibrations to every chakra for FCM and Z vibration for shoulders along with Gaum 3 for pineal.

I've spoken to these helpful voices and they state stick with sanskrit the God mantra which are powerful make you too angry. I tried in the past doing the Necro glyphs and they make me very angry and I snap a lot it goes away after a few hours but I kinda enter a angered state.

Note: I never have been harmed to told bad things by these helpful voices. In fact they state you shouldn't be listening to us even though we help you out. Be realistic and use your intuition and please study the forums and work with forum members your in desprete need of help. Even though you've been around for 20 years your soul needs to go slow.

I've been told by members that I should be kundalini risen by now 20 years. I've told these voices I'm sorry immediately they state stop don't use the S word so I say excuse me. And they state life has a way of giving each person their own method of evolution.

I know this sounds static but it's faint. But these voices want to help me out. And yes I do take my medication to ground my mind.

I've never had another mental health breakdown.

Once again thank you both. I'll focus on body and trance.

BTW one more thing. Can I use trance to train void? If the trance state slows or stops thoughts does that mean I'm voiding?

I told the voice that and they said it's within the realms of possibility depending on the person but ask the forums anyways to give you extra answers and assistance as they can lead you to other paths especially with the Gods helping out.

Basically the voices said don't use us as 100% answers study and improve yourself so the hands of the Gods can extend out and guide you to a better learning and self-improvement.

(NOTE: These voices are faint and it feels odd it's like they talk through my soul/subconscious/inner voice the other day I contacted Satan and I heard his voice in a much clearer tone but it's still faint and hard to hear. I've never NEVER been told anything negative. Although I did hear the lady who I contact as my succubus do something to my brain and I heard in my head Stop looking at other women and look at me motherfucker. I asked for a polyamorous, no jealousy succubus but she got jealous and wanted me.)

Again it sounds like I'm crazy I hope I never get hospitalized again. But these voices of these entities I communicate always want to help me out.

If I'm crazy I'm sorry I can't help it it's how my mind works. I've had my psychiatrist tell me people ask for lower doses of medicine to hear helpful voices guiding them.

A few years ago before coof I had a lady behind me acting all nervous and I turned around after being told help the lady behind you and I asked her Ma'm would you like to go ahead in line. She declined and said thank you.

So excuse me if I sound crazy or off my rocker. But I've never been harmed by these voices.

Is this normal? hearing voices and communicating with them or just subconscious factors?

Lately I keep having images and flashes of my toddler days and middle high school days.

Is it normal with 36 vibrations of winja, thauris, aihwa and an affirmation to heal my sexual, mental, psychological, and emotional issues for this to happen?

Lately these past few weeks after meditating now for like 2 months beforehand and reaching this point.

Is it normal to feel discombobulated? I noticed the other day the voice that is Satan say do general anti-karma for 90 days not 720 days. I want to do it for as long as possible and flush out all the negative karma but the voice was like your soul is helped so much by entities that the anti-neg karma is very limited. The voice was like you get a lot of help from our people and your soul doesn't have that much negativity.

Is that normal? To be told that?

I know I sound like I"m speaking two way with them. But it's faint and hard to hear.

Are the Gods this helpful? They meet you more than half-way? or are these delusions and crazy scenarios.

I feel great I've lately been feeling better and having my memories come back I'm having memories of my middle and high school days.

I'm cancer but my memory is bad I hated loathed school my friend remembers himself playing video games at 2 years old.

Is it normal for entities and voices to be so helpful? Is this the Gods way of living? Are these entities we call Gods of Gentiles THAT helpful?

Less talk and more action. This is a very feminine trait you have.

 

[NinRick]

Non masculine trait*

 

[Henu the Great]

Can I use trance to train void? If the trance state slows or stops thoughts does that mean I'm voiding?

It won't hurt, that's for sure.

Is it normal for entities and voices to be so helpful? Is this the Gods way of living? Are these entities we call Gods of Gentiles THAT helpful?

I think words can not properly do justice. So I'll just say yes.

 

[volk_victory]

Thank you everyone for the warm welcome & going out of your way to impart knowledge!

The question I have concerns the Zangbeto dancers of Africa, who look like spinning haystacks & the Whirling Dervishes
of Istanbul. Are these guys currently just performing for tourists, or is there some underlying spiritual impartation received
by the practitioners of these arts?

I've never seen any post-performance interviews where those involved have articulated attaining further depths of insight.

 

[Mistler]

Hello, I need help with this and I am totally lost with the topic of runes and spells. I am reading and studying, but on the subject of runes and their use in a job, for example binding or attracting the love of a certain person, I am still confused.
My question is; Do I use the Gebo rune to attract a certain girl's love interest? Or do I use another one?

For example, in the love spell, do I first pronounce the runes and then visualize the body and aura of the girl in question and then use the affirmation?

It also says that this spell should be performed only at night, can it be performed during the day, more than anything to speed up progress.

 

[Theserpentrises1666]

How do you exactly start a working or sun square? Like what are the steps of successfully do magick? Is really as easy as HPS Maxine makes it seem on the JoS

First, pick an appropriate date for the working at hand. Use the Satanic Calendar as an aid! When the Moon is relevant to the task at hand, look at the phase of the Moon. The most potent effects can be achieved by timing the spell with planetary forces just right. Like having a tailwind when running outside. When the timing is average or suboptimal one has to work harder for the same effect as with better timing.

Then it is a matter of the three steps of the witchcraft. Information in JoS regarding that...

The duration of the working depends on the method chosen and the goal of the working. It can be anything from one-time to permanent.

The more skilled and experienced the mage is, the better the results are. That is it in a nutshell.

Okay yes thanks that’s what I been struggling with is the timing no idea when to start all I know is not during a VoC. What would be the best time to start a sun square for increasing health and vitality?
Thank you for your knowledge sir.

 

[Henu the Great]

Okay yes thanks that’s what I been struggling with is the timing no idea when to start all I know is not during a VoC. What would be the best time to start a sun square for increasing health and vitality?
Thank you for your knowledge sir.

Read the following two sections as the information is in there. There is a ton of other information that is bound to be useful for you too.

https://www.satanisgod.org/Satanic_Meditation.html

https://www.joyofsatan.org/Satanic_Magick.html

 

[Stormblood]

What would be the best time to start a sun square for increasing health and vitality?

Sun in Aries or Leo are the best for that. Please, be sure to read the resources that have been suggested to you. You will find many answers much faster.

Do I use the Gebo rune to attract a certain girl's love interest? Or do I use another one?

For example, in the love spell, do I first pronounce the runes and then visualize the body and aura of the girl in question and then use the affirmation?

It also says that this spell should be performed only at night, can it be performed during the day, more than anything to speed up progress.

Yes, you can use Gebo, Wunjo or Ehwaz. All are great. You can also use a combination of them.

You don't pronounce the runes. You vibrate them like in the audio provided. Choose a number that is higher than 25. No matter the number, how much time you spend focused on it is very important. Aim for at least 5-10 minutes as your vibration time. Doing them too fast will water down the working too much.

Choose a number you feel comfortable with, without straining yourself. Multiples of 5, 6, 7 or 8 are all good here as long as they are higher than 25. For example, 30, 35, 36, 40 are the lowest you should go, as this is witchcraft, not meditation.

This spell is best performed at night because it's feminine/attractive in nature. Feminine energies are more abundant between sunset and sunrise. Thankfully, in the majority of the Northern Hemisphere, now the Sun goes down pretty early, around 4pm. So you have plenty of time.

However, if you are short on time or not good at time management, then you can of course also perform it during the day. Aim for the hour of Venus or the hour of the Moon, preferably.

Read the following resources. Do not skip!
https://joyofsatan.org/Concentration.html
https://joyofsatan.org/ThreeSteps.html
https://joyofsatan.org/Color.html
https://joyofsatan.org/Timing.html
https://joyofsatan.org/retrogrades.html
https://joyofsatan.org/Cardinal_Points.html

 

[Stormblood]

For example, in the love spell, do I first pronounce the runes and then visualize the body and aura of the girl in question and then use the affirmation?

Oh, and the runes should be vibrated on the girls soul/aura directly for best results if you are specifically saying she is attracted to you, in love with you or something like.

If you're saying that YOU are attracting her or similar, then you vibrate the runes on yourself/your aura instead.

 

[Gearshift]

Is it normal for cleaning/protection to last like 30 minutes or so?

Every time I sit down to clean 54 Surya, Returning curses affirmation: My aura is constantly and continuously..., and as well as basic aop, solar aop, lunar aop, and very powerful aura in the aura section of JoSM. On top of that I perform 88 vibrations of Thauris, Algs, Sauil, Bairkan, and Aihwa to harmoniously merge the protection.

Is it normal for it to take me about 30 minutes or so?

BTW is it normal with my schedule to take several hours as I perform spread around. I like meditating throughout my day not in one sitting block, though I've done it.

C/P/EZ Spin/MerKaba/FCM(lower chakras, Pineal, 3rd eye)/[H/K Yoga]/Healing work/Munka work.

Is it normal that these 9 workings I spread throughout the day take so long? I'm fine doing it for long I'm not against spending 1H+ maybe 2 hours doing it in one sitting.

My only issue is if it works or not. Again I'm not into trance, I'm practicing, the other day I felt my body numbed as I breath in so much it felt like the oxygen was anesthetic and I was buzzing from the oxygen.

I've always been curious if trance = can be done and stay to perform all meditation in it. I always wanted to know if trance can be done while doing yoga i.e. physical activity. Or is trance a sitting/lying only type of experience that requires sitting/lying down.

Again trance is very difficult for me same for void. I'm practicing but I'd like to know if my schedule is too much.

Also is meditation = pointless if your not in a trance?

I know it's been replied to me that meditation = you did SOMETHING which affects you so you did it.

[Merkaba is a meditation I love, I know it's an intermediate meditation and I should temper it but I'm using the energy ball internal for the base chakra rather than manipura chakra. I hope it's okay to do it my affirmation is My entire energy field is fully vibrating at the speed of light in the most beneficial way for me now and forever.]

I hope I don't get talked down form merkaba. And yes if your wondering I don't feel anything from it, even spending 5-15 minutes I don't feel it.

Is it normal to be so powerless or so in beta state you don't feel anything. I've been re-reading again the trance state on JOSwiki and it seems like UNLESS you enter trance meditation and affirmation is pointless.

But then other questions arise if trance is so important does vibrating out loud harm your ears or does something.

Excuse the elementary, basic questions. I've never meditated correctly I just do it and hope for the best.

 

[Mistler]

For example, in the love spell, do I first pronounce the runes and then visualize the body and aura of the girl in question and then use the affirmation?

Oh, and the runes should be vibrated on the girls soul/aura directly for best results if you are specifically saying she is attracted to you, in love with you or something like.

If you're saying that YOU are attracting her or similar, then you vibrate the runes on yourself/your aura instead.

Thank you very much for taking your time to answer my question. The topic of runes really made me dizzy even though I was studying them. His advice helped me understand much better and I will read the pages he gave me. Again, thank you very much.

 

[Henu the Great]

I have one other question that I'm curious about. What does it mean to have too much earth energy? What are the symptoms of too much or too little? It sounds great almost to a point where you can't get enough of it, based on what I've read in the JoS meditations page. I also find I might already have an earth-based kind of energy, given my earth sign (Virgo), green aura and my infatuation with science, nutrition and the natural world. Negative aspects in myself I find that come up most often pertain to procrastination, indecisiveness, overthinking, feelings of discontentment, inadequacy and so on. Given how I conduct each and every action and routine in my life extremely methodically I naturally struggle with adapting to sudden change. Albeit very rare, when these changes do suddenly come, I enter a state of hyper-focus and hyper-production which has a physical and mental toll.

Looking at those attributes we can have an individual who is fidgety and nervous, for example. Or having trouble with routines. On the other hand, we can have someone who is mentally very rigid. In itself, it is not something 'bad'. It has its uses and drawbacks, like with anything.

And then looking at the overall composition one can then make an educated guess as to what to balance themselves with in order to perform in a different manner, depending on the situation as well. Also, it is possible to permanently change this predisposition. In small increments at first, but more potently as one grows.

Elemental energy is probably something I shouldn't be too concerned about at my level, yet I still feel it's important to understand in regards to how it may affect us. I imagine major factors in these imbalances are diet, lifestyle, astrology charts and so on. Thanks again so much for your time and sorry for the long-winded query!

I would not worry about it so much and bravely experiment, as long as there is level-headedness and common sense involved. There are good instructions in the JoS meditation section and in the 6-month training program for those curious about the subject.

Don't worry about posting. That is what this space is for.

 

[WoadWarrior]

when invoking aether what exactly does ultraviolet look like? half the time I look online its light blue and the other half of the time its bright purple, which one should I be visualizing?
Also when invoking the earth element what should I be visualizing there on the site it just say gravity but I have no idea what that means from a visualization stand point.
Thanks
Hail Satan..

 

[AFODO]

when invoking aether what exactly does ultraviolet look like? half the time I look online its light blue and the other half of the time its bright purple, which one should I be visualizing?
Also when invoking the earth element what should I be visualizing there on the site it just say gravity but I have no idea what that means from a visualization stand point.
Thanks
Hail Satan..

Interesting. I thought Akasha is black.
But now that I re-read it, Maxine described this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacklight

 

[Masterj810610]

when invoking aether what exactly does ultraviolet look like? half the time I look online its light blue and the other half of the time its bright purple, which one should I be visualizing?
Also when invoking the earth element what should I be visualizing there on the site it just say gravity but I have no idea what that means from a visualization stand point.
Thanks
Hail Satan..

Ultraviolet is invisible to the human eyes due to shorter wavelenghts, but you can imagine it to be purple

 

[Theserpentrises1666]

Is it normal for cleaning/protection to last like 30 minutes or so?

Every time I sit down to clean 54 Surya, Returning curses affirmation: My aura is constantly and continuously..., and as well as basic aop, solar aop, lunar aop, and very powerful aura in the aura section of JoSM. On top of that I perform 88 vibrations of Thauris, Algs, Sauil, Bairkan, and Aihwa to harmoniously merge the protection.

Is it normal for it to take me about 30 minutes or so?

BTW is it normal with my schedule to take several hours as I perform spread around. I like meditating throughout my day not in one sitting block, though I've done it.

C/P/EZ Spin/MerKaba/FCM(lower chakras, Pineal, 3rd eye)/[H/K Yoga]/Healing work/Munka work.

Is it normal that these 9 workings I spread throughout the day take so long? I'm fine doing it for long I'm not against spending 1H+ maybe 2 hours doing it in one sitting.

My only issue is if it works or not. Again I'm not into trance, I'm practicing, the other day I felt my body numbed as I breath in so much it felt like the oxygen was anesthetic and I was buzzing from the oxygen.

I've always been curious if trance = can be done and stay to perform all meditation in it. I always wanted to know if trance can be done while doing yoga i.e. physical activity. Or is trance a sitting/lying only type of experience that requires sitting/lying down.

Again trance is very difficult for me same for void. I'm practicing but I'd like to know if my schedule is too much.

Also is meditation = pointless if your not in a trance?

I know it's been replied to me that meditation = you did SOMETHING which affects you so you did it.

[Merkaba is a meditation I love, I know it's an intermediate meditation and I should temper it but I'm using the energy ball internal for the base chakra rather than manipura chakra. I hope it's okay to do it my affirmation is My entire energy field is fully vibrating at the speed of light in the most beneficial way for me now and forever.]

I hope I don't get talked down form merkaba. And yes if your wondering I don't feel anything from it, even spending 5-15 minutes I don't feel it.

Is it normal to be so powerless or so in beta state you don't feel anything. I've been re-reading again the trance state on JOSwiki and it seems like UNLESS you enter trance meditation and affirmation is pointless.

But then other questions arise if trance is so important does vibrating out loud harm your ears or does something.

Excuse the elementary, basic questions. I've never meditated correctly I just do it and hope for the best.

It is normal for some meditation sessions to take longer than others or not go as smoothly I know your frustration sometimes it takes me long time to do my meditations. Also maybe don’t do so many different meditations. Quality over quantity.

And it is not necessary to go into a trance every time you meditate. You can work on mastering void meditation. From what I read you need to be really good at void before you can enter a trance easily.

Maybe more members here can answer your other questions but hope this helps don’t beat yourself up

 

[Theserpentrises1666]

Okay yes thanks that’s what I been struggling with is the timing no idea when to start all I know is not during a VoC. What would be the best time to start a sun square for increasing health and vitality?
Thank you for your knowledge sir.

Read the following two sections as the information is in there. There is a ton of other information that is bound to be useful for you too.

https://www.satanisgod.org/Satanic_Meditation.html

https://www.joyofsatan.org/Satanic_Magick.html

I have read both of those sections before but I probably haven’t read everything so I will study again thank you.

 

[Theserpentrises1666]

What would be the best time to start a sun square for increasing health and vitality?

Sun in Aries or Leo are the best for that. Please, be sure to read the resources that have been suggested to you. You will find many answers much faster.

Yes I’m on it. :twisted:
Read the following resources. Do not skip!
https://joyofsatan.org/Concentration.html
https://joyofsatan.org/ThreeSteps.html
https://joyofsatan.org/Color.html
https://joyofsatan.org/Timing.html
https://joyofsatan.org/retrogrades.html
https://joyofsatan.org/Cardinal_Points.html

 

[Gearshift]

I'll repost this.

Is it normal to spend upwards of 30 minutes cleaning/protecting?

RCpt.1/Sloughing ball/RCpt2 Surya 54 vibrations/ 18 affirmation RC/88 Thauris, Algs, Sauil, Bairkan, Aihwa/Basic, Solar, and Lunar AoP affirmation

I've lately been so tired of cleaning and protecting I'm leaving it to once a day. The day I posted this was on the Friday Sabbath cleansing/purification, which I'm doing for the day.

But lately cleaning feels like a chore particularly the 88 runic vibrations. I use multiple runes to cover myself as Blitzkrieg mentioned newbies should begin to do runic working as soon as possible to help with the planets and general negativity of the enemy.

Is 30 minutes or near that excessive? I'm not even doing 108 nor 216 vibrations of RCpt2 cleansing.

Should my protection be stronger in comparison to cleansing or should I clean further and reduce my runic working back to 36 vibrations or less. HP.Cobra was adamant the more you clean the more you have to keep on top of cleaning or else negativity begins manifesting. He's right I've done high rep workings burn myself out and then some slight quips occur.

I hear voices speak to me in a very faint way and they told me work less on your soul your going too fast take it easy in terms of doing multiple runic workings. My only workings are Healing work and Urus anti-neg karma. As one member put it work on only one or two things at a time for workings.

Should I be taking my cleansing more seriously and reduce my protection a bit. I know protection = cleaner due to sloughing off negativity. But still?

 

[AFODO]

Your cleaning, and protection take 30 minutes all together? Because that's shouldn't be anywhere near to too much.

 

[Gearshift]

Excuse me for double posting. I thought my post got ignored.

But I will add like I said in my second post.

Should I focus more on protection or should I outright clean and raise my cleaning?

I did increase my Surya to x88 vibration. I don't want to do full 216 as HP.Cobra was like when letting the murkiness bubble up be on top of your cleaning so it doesn't manifest.

Plus I'm doing a 90-day General anti-neg karma. I am fully free from every negative karma in the most beneficial way for me now and forever x9.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

Also one more question. I use multi-rune vibrations. I vibrate(I prefer Gothic vibrations): Thauris, Algs, Sauil, Bairkan and then I used to use Aihwa(unites the energies harmoniously).

Is it wrong to unite the protective forces with Aihwa?

Or is it better to eliminate Aihwa and let them work in their own way?

i.e. Runic AoP

I had seen some of your other posts, and it sounds like those voices are from the Gods, but remember to connect to their sigils to bolster the accuracy, and work directly on your body and grounding, like they say. The yin aspects of reality may seem boring to you, but this is only if you do not value them properly. In fact, development of the body or the yin side of the soul makes us more able to tolerate boring scenarios, simply feeling less bored with less stimulation.

I'm not totally certain on how much Aihwa is required or not, however we can see in the Gods' rituals that many runes are grouped without Ehwaz, so I think it is fine. It is definitely not a strict requirement, if that is what you are asking.

Regarding a runic AOP, or any working, the question then becomes whether or not the benefit of chanting Ehwaz would outweigh the benefit of simply chanting more of the original runes instead, regarding the power of the outcome.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

Excuse me for double posting. I thought my post got ignored.

But I will add like I said in my second post.

Should I focus more on protection or should I outright clean and raise my cleaning?

I did increase my Surya to x88 vibration. I don't want to do full 216 as HP.Cobra was like when letting the murkiness bubble up be on top of your cleaning so it doesn't manifest.

Plus I'm doing a 90-day General anti-neg karma. I am fully free from every negative karma in the most beneficial way for me now and forever x9.

It is hard to choose because both are incredibly important, but I would choose to do more protection if I had to pick one. However, cleaning is a major basis for our growth and should be viewed with excitement, as it paves the way for solid advancement. View it more like purification on the road to Godhead.

Yes, spending 30+ minutes on these is normal and also I am proud of you for putting in the effort. Don't think your time is wasted at all. Both of these items fall into the category of feeling monotonous, yet also being essential building blocks for success. If either was torn from your routine, everything else would suffer.

Protection is not just something that only comes in handy whenever, but is actually defense against the negative factors of life, like that which could hurt you, or make you make bad decisions, lose money or time, and so on.

You can split up your routine if doing it all at once is boring to you. Instead of 88 reps, do 40 twice per day, or something.

Also, instead of high reps of chanting, you can get away with less if your soul is more powerful. Since your body is in need of help, you should spend more time doing hatha yoga, and/or do pranayama prior to your chanting, and this will amplify it greatly.

Lastly, energy breathing will still work for an AOP; runes are not essential. It is just that newbs might feel comfortable with low reps, like 5 breaths or something, when in reality more effort should be put in to stay fully protected and safe.

 

[Gearshift]

" post_id=479119 time=1703385254 user_id=21286]Lastly, energy breathing will still work for an AOP; runes are not essential. It is just that newbs might feel comfortable with low reps, like 5 breaths or something, when in reality more effort should be put in to stay fully protected and safe.

OH okay cool. I recall you mentioning a while back Runic protection is fine and good to do as soon as possible to hinder the negativity.

I do like basic AoP I still feel like a beginner. The voice that speaks states take it a bit slower. For example I was doing like 4-5 workings but dropped it to Healing/Urus anti-neg karma, heal x36, Urus 108.

I don't mind 88 Surya because it's fine but I feel like I'm half-assing the runes. I'm aware Lydia mentioning smaller reps aren't bad just different it takes time like FancyMancy's 1-rep chart eventually after a number of years 1-rep will trail a high rep energy range. As energy is cumulative and continues to propagate with proper programming. Of course 1-rep isn't very good and it's just a scientific explanation.

I already dropped my Runic working because it's very overwhelming. I'll stick to RCpt1/2 affirmation and breathing a lot with AoP.

I did hear the Succubus voice the female voice that I hear state a short while back when I went a little crazy with meditation. To breath a lot for AoP. I was seeing my house as gold and I automatically left lotus pods on my feet. I recall the Tibetan monks and certain Hindus doing walking meditation leaving lotus behind their trails growing out their feet. I don't know if it was a hallucination or an actual visual prowess of illuminated mind. It didn't bother it excited me kinda trippy but again I need to be careful as I'm a person with problems plus I'm still working on grounding/centering/stabilizing.

Mind if I ask how much is breathing a lot. Is it time wise or rep wise?

" post_id=479118 time=1703384564 user_id=21286]Regarding a runic AOP, or any working, the question then becomes whether or not the benefit of chanting Ehwaz would outweigh the benefit of simply chanting more of the original runes instead, regarding the power of the outcome.

It posses a harmonic principle: [When used with other runes, Eihwaz unites the energies harmoniously.]

Are you trying to state I'm melting the runes together a forging a new runic pattern similar to creating new magick?

Are you trying to state I'm causing issues not bad issues just ignorance a kinda medley of new runic capabilities.

I can see why HP.Cobra separates the runes and not merge them with Ehwaz. Very interesting perhaps that's the reason I felt kinda weird in a good way these past few days. Maybe my 88 working is half-assed a bit and not doing the proper thing.

I'm simply asking to merge the protection together so I have protection AND shielding.

Protection = away from danger. Shielding = protection from curses i.e. electro-magnetic banefulness.

Hmm very interesting. I guess I did a minor mistake.

That's one reason why I wish JoS was more concrete we are experimental. Not bad, not saying anything bad look at my prior usage of squares I regret touching the squares.

But what you state makes more sense.

Is it too late to drop Ehwaz in my Healing working and simply vibrate Winja and Thauris together for healing purposes.

My heal work is x36 Winja, Thauris, and Aihwa. Affirmation wise x9: I am fully and harmoniously healing from every sexual, mental, psychological, and emotional health issues and traumas in the most beneficial way for me now and forever.

I overcomplicate affirmations I'm simply trying to cover all my basis.

Would eliminating Aihwa help me out?

I did a while back shortly in Fall get super pissed off for 3 days straight using Thauris working and seeing Thauris in blood berserker red in the center of my body and around me like an AoP with my head turning red full of steam and getting an anger. It wasn't bad or out of control but man my mental state was pissed off you should have sensed the shit in my head to know how I was.

I love using Thauris the anger felt real it didn't feel plastic or fake like my usual I just tolerate everything I felt happy being angry for real. Since a little kid I used to say a lot I'm always pissed off, everything pisses me off. And get pissed off a lot as a child very emotional especially being Cancarian and having very powerful astro chart.

I wish one day I can reveal my chart to you. You'd be like wow your personality is your most powerful weapon but you have so many issues to resolve we need to reforge you from the ground up.