Welcome to the Temple of Zeus's Official Forums!

Welcome to the official forums for the Temple of Zeus. Please consider registering an account to join our community.

Why was the older generation more spiritual (WITHOUT meditating)?

Joined
Sep 21, 2017
Messages
434
Hello.
Recently, someone who is in their forties was telling me how in his village, the grandmothers (this account was when he was still a child, so we are talking about 2-3 generations back) had visions of the future, how there were accounts of fairies, spirits, etc.
The distant grandmothers (now gone) of my relatives were also the same: having visions, mostly.

It's not a unique incident.

All these grandmothers were also very, very, very religious (christians, since this is the major religion in my country).

Why were the people of that time that much more spiritual than they are today in spite of NOT meditating at all?
Does it have to do with the way we live right now? (stress, constant distractions, harmful technology), or were the spiritual powers of our ancestors (since before the Middle Ages) still present in these grandmothers? It doesn't really make sense, considering people didn't meditate for many years in my country (we were also under Turkey's occupation).

How could these powers be so strong in the grandmothers, and everything got lost in just 2-3 generations?
 
I believe the majority of these "occurrences" are hallucinations or delusions, in a Christian context (especially since you mention visions). There are hundreds of claims worldwide that X or Y saw a picture of Mary hung on the wall shedding real tears and talking to them. Also, that swimming in holy lakes helped people cure infertility or blindness, or that kissing saints' dead bodies gave them the good luck to get that promotion the next month or overcome an obstacle they'd been struggling with, etc.

Abrahamic religions are known for their diehard believers, who think God is the reason for everything that happens to them, even to the most minor things like finding their keys or not missing the bus. So when something more unusual happens, like a night hallucination, they think it's either evil spirits or angels visiting them, when their intuition crops up - it must be their "guardian angel" talking to them, and so on. Just like others attribute every bad mood or accident on aliens and "psychic attacks".

Besides, many stories are also inflated, and modified each time they're recounted.
 
Does it have to do with the way we live right now? (stress, constant distractions, harmful technology), or were the spiritual powers of our ancestors (since before the Middle Ages) still present in these grandmothers? It doesn't really make sense, considering people didn't meditate for many years in my country (we were also under Turkey's occupation).
Even despite abrahamic religion and people not meditating, the sheer better quality of life and the lack of all the crap back then was probably why people were more vibrant. Rural areas also keep more of a folk energy to them.

Today all sorts of things dampen our souls more more so than before, including low quality food, lack of good sleep, etc.
 
I believe the majority of these "occurrences" are hallucinations or delusions, in a Christian context (especially since you mention visions). There are hundreds of claims worldwide that X or Y saw a picture of Mary hung on the wall shedding real tears and talking to them. Also, that swimming in holy lakes helped people cure infertility or blindness, or that kissing saints' dead bodies gave them the good luck to get that promotion the next month or overcome an obstacle they'd been struggling with, etc.

Abrahamic religions are known for their diehard believers, who think God is the reason for everything that happens to them, even to the most minor things like finding their keys or not missing the bus. So when something more unusual happens, like a night hallucination, they think it's either evil spirits or angels visiting them, when their intuition crops up - it must be their "guardian angel" talking to them, and so on. Just like others attribute every bad mood or accident on aliens and "psychic attacks".

Besides, many stories are also inflated, and modified each time they're recounted.
I am not talking about delusional claims...
When I said "visions," I meant predicting the future.
There were also legit cases of healing (eg my mother had "prayed very hard" and was healed from a problem she had), which I personally account to enemy entities wanting to have the control/encourage people's helplessness and dependency on them.
 
Hello.
Recently, someone who is in their forties was telling me how in his village, the grandmothers (this account was when he was still a child, so we are talking about 2-3 generations back) had visions of the future, how there were accounts of fairies, spirits, etc.
The distant grandmothers (now gone) of my relatives were also the same: having visions, mostly.

It's not a unique incident.

All these grandmothers were also very, very, very religious (christians, since this is the major religion in my country).

Why were the people of that time that much more spiritual than they are today in spite of NOT meditating at all?
Does it have to do with the way we live right now? (stress, constant distractions, harmful technology), or were the spiritual powers of our ancestors (since before the Middle Ages) still present in these grandmothers? It doesn't really make sense, considering people didn't meditate for many years in my country (we were also under Turkey's occupation).

How could these powers be so strong in the grandmothers, and everything got lost in just 2-3 generations?
They are not spiritual if they don't meditate daily and advance spiritualy. A psychic ability is another thing, that can come from their "map of the soul" the birth chart where it has planetary influences that gives them this a ability to have visions and this can come from past lives where they advanced spiritualy or they got lucky or by having inherited it from their related ancestors.

As there where psychics in the past so are today in our civilization you just didn't hear about them or didn't meet one. So there are still today people with this kind of psychic abilities even widouth meditation, "spiritual gifts" in birth charts exist.
 
Hello.
Recently, someone who is in their forties was telling me how in his village, the grandmothers (this account was when he was still a child, so we are talking about 2-3 generations back) had visions of the future, how there were accounts of fairies, spirits, etc.
The distant grandmothers (now gone) of my relatives were also the same: having visions, mostly.

It's not a unique incident.

All these grandmothers were also very, very, very religious (christians, since this is the major religion in my country).

Why were the people of that time that much more spiritual than they are today in spite of NOT meditating at all?
Does it have to do with the way we live right now? (stress, constant distractions, harmful technology), or were the spiritual powers of our ancestors (since before the Middle Ages) still present in these grandmothers? It doesn't really make sense, considering people didn't meditate for many years in my country (we were also under Turkey's occupation).

How could these powers be so strong in the grandmothers, and everything got lost in just 2-3 generations?
Peoples nervous systems were less fried back then. Look around today and the modern conveniences purposely steal conscious awareness away. We have all the tools for advancement but none of the patience and wisdom to use it properly.

I had an older relative that could have “naps” which were pretty much just deep trance states where he could remote view events happening. No one taught him this. Life was much slower so there were less distractions to block the awareness needed to experience spirit phenomenon.
 
I think meditation and spiritual practices are becoming increasingly important in the modern world. Not because humanity suddenly became less spiritual, but because we are always distracting ourselves.

People rarely sit in solitude anymore. Instead of reflecting, we constantly fill the silence with entertainment, information, and stimulation.

Our grandparents were presented with plenty of opportunities to sit and “meditate” whether they called it that or not. Much of their day was still spent out in nature. Nature teaches us many lessons whether we realize it or not.

Physically many of us don’t walk as much, or do as much labor as we used to. Therefore energy can become stagnant if we remain ignorant to these facts and do nothing to balance this out.

The problem with Dark Age religions is how they forbid any form of enlightenment, knowledge, or meditation. All of which combat our modern struggles

This is why today we have a very organized form of Zevism— to balance this all out. The Gods knew we would advance technologically. They have already prepared us for this.

In my personal view, the Gods made us very capable of accessing our spiritual abilities no matter what words or labels we put over things. So it’s very instinctive for us to do so— no matter what religion one practices. It is our natural way

Given these new circumstances, I think following Dark Age religions today harms us much more than it would have harmed our grandparents and past relatives.

This is just my personal view anyways, as this is something I too ponder sometimes
 
Why were the people of that time that much more spiritual than they are today in spite of NOT meditating at all?
Does it have to do with the way we live right now? (stress, constant distractions, harmful technology), or were the spiritual powers of our ancestors (since before the Middle Ages) still present in these grandmothers?
I believe it is because life is designed to strip you of your power. The media and technology have an affect on your mind. Most people have taken certain substances into their bodies that are harmful. I don't think you will have much spiritual power if I remove your pineal gland.
(eg my mother had "prayed very hard" and was healed from a problem she had)
I would guess she raised, directed and programmed her energy to achieve her goal with a lot of intent, focus and emotion. I did this before when I was Christian, I think it works better with words of power. A full hour of laser focus on a goal even if under a false religion is still powerful.
 
I don't know if they were more spiritual but for sure the youngest generation is the less serious and thoughtful one in history.. they were raised by screens and horrible examples of human beings such as rappers and other 100% materialistic people. Also they are constantly entertained, our grand parents lived a very boring life, compared to us.
The psychological war is heavier now because the enemy knows that it's their last chance.
 
The reasons for this could also be astrological. The Transcendental Generational Planets (Neptune, Uranus, Pluto), when placed in more "spiritual" signs and aspecting one another, could affect how spiritual or materialistic a given generation is. For example, Neptune in Pisces and Pluto in Scorpio would be a much more spiritual generation than, say, Neptune in Virgo and Pluto in Taurus, which would be more materially oriented.
 

Official Temple of Zeus Links

Back
Top