Same sex marriage

[MageSurpent666]

Greetings Brothers and Sister in Zevism
Just wanted to bring this to light Love is Love
Hail Zeus Hail Agares

 

[Hidden Warrior [SG]]

"Love is love" is a phrase that has been used in destructive and Izfetic ways.

Temple of Zeus position on sexuals matters is the following:
Sexual Ethics

 

[Ài Gōng]

People like to make all sorts of claims about the ancient world in order to slander or to justify their own unatended needs, then intentionally or not causing Istoriyach.

 

[hailourtruegod]

People like to make all sorts of claims about the ancient world in order to slander or to justify their own unatended needs, then intentionally or not causing Istoriyach.

Looks like a good video but no option for English translation. Unless I am missing it in the caption option?

 

[Ài Gōng]

Looks like a good video but no option for English translation. Unless I am missing it in the caption option?

Settings -> Subtitles -> Portuguese -> Auto-translate -> English

 

[hailourtruegod]

Settings -> Subtitles -> Portuguese -> Auto-translate -> English

Either the browser I am using or because I'm trying it on mobile that it's not working. When I click on the language it tells me it just turns off the captions all together. I'll try it on a different device. Thank you.

 

[Ài Gōng]

Either the browser I am using or because I'm trying it on mobile that it's not working. When I click on the language it tells me it just turns off the captions all together. I'll try it on a different device. Thank you.

Likely you are clicking on the wrong button. It's Settings [] not CC.

 

[MageSurpent666]

People like to make all sorts of claims about the ancient world in order to slander or to justify their own unatended needs, then intentionally or not causing Istoriyach.

Understanding me see I was raped at 5 Year old and then having past lives as a woman many times So My Female side as always been apart of me.So I am Going for transformation back to my Female side Because From My pure Love Of me and my well being Hail Zeus Hail Agares

 

[Hidden Warrior [SG]]

Understanding me see I was raped at 5 Year old and then having past lives as a woman many times So My Female side as always been apart of me.So I am Going for transformation back to my Female side Because From My pure Love Of me and my well being Hail Zeus Hail Agares

If you experienced such traumatic events I suggest you to seek aid from a professional that is specialized in helping overcoming them.

 

[Gladius]

Understanding me see I was raped at 5 Year old and then having past lives as a woman many times So My Female side as always been apart of me.So I am Going for transformation back to my Female side Because From My pure Love Of me and my well being Hail Zeus Hail Agares

I thought gender can't change between lives.

 

[Aquarius]

I thought gender can't change between lives.

It cannot brother.

 

[MageSurpent666]

I Think Different There record of that Happening a man child was Transformed into woman it about Transformation The Soul Hail Zeus Hail Agares

 

[MageSurpent666]

If you experienced such traumatic events I suggest you to seek aid from a professional that is specialized in helping overcoming them.

Why would I want external Help I can put my self into a trance I can bring whatever I desire by the right side of the brain.lOne other thing if I in deed had a Heart problem and Healed My Own Heart organ Then why would I Trust any external entity
Hail Zeus Hail Agares

 

[Kuka]

Understanding me see I was raped at 5 Year old and then having past lives as a woman many times So My Female side as always been apart of me.So I am Going for transformation back to my Female side Because From My pure Love Of me and my well being Hail Zeus Hail Agares

I'm so sorry, given the trauma deep-rooted which this calls for a Licenced Therapist, someone who beside the Master in psychology did the specialization too. I specify this, as one psychologist couldn't fanthom or have the formation needed to help you navigating such difficult past events.

I'd say to avoid hypnosis around that topic, as it can evoke all the terrible sensations and intense emotions you felt, which now are surely buried very deep.

P.S: on instagram there's a guy ex-McLaren Enginner (as by his insta bio) who does speaking in schools about his experience with being rape at early age and how he found the courage. check if you can: @jeremyindika for hear about his experience


Take Care

 

[MageSurpent666]

See My past lives were not bad ones I was a woman preistess one life and still a healer in this life.If that we're not true I would still have to take medicine it been a year and a half seen then

 

[MageSurpent666]

I'm so sorry, given the trauma deep-rooted which this calls for a Licenced Therapist, someone who beside the Master in psychology did the specialization too. I specify this, as one psychologist couldn't fanthom or have the formation needed to help you navigating such difficult past events.

I'd say to avoid hypnosis around that topic, as it can evoke all the terrible sensations and intense emotions you felt, which now are surely buried very deep.

P.S: on instagram there's a guy ex-McLaren Enginner (as by his insta bio) who does speaking in schools about his experience with being rape at early age and how he found the courage. check if you can: @jeremyindika for hear about his experience


Take Care

To understand that I did not have any responseablity Of the action understanding the cause of the action is affect of poor judgement on behalf of the the 17 year old who in reality was just pulled to the imagey of sexual acks because of porn.understaning his under development of his brain and I don't know if the same thing happened to him.

 

[MageSurpent666]

Greetings Brothers and Sister in Zevism I think you for reaching out to me.See years ago I was working at a restaurant as a Master Grill Operator Back in 1997 I ended up having to work with the same individual could of destroyed him.But I don't I just let it go.Hail Zeus Hail Agares

 

[Ĥl·lĥæ]

I’ll address this separately; as far as spirituality is concerned, it doesn’t matter.

As far as science is concerned, sex between two men is bad for your health.

 

[MageSurpent666]

Greetings Brothers and Sister in Zevism
Just wanted to bring this to light Love is Love
Hail Zeus Hail Agares

Greetings Brothers and Sister in Zevism I have been cummicating with female on a site So I give them both Spiritual sides as to what occured in the right hand path and the I led them to the truth of this path by example.Like how the enemy threw that death curse at me.Then I let them know about this path For example How through the Gift of Power meditation I was able t

Greetings Brothers and Sister in Zevism
Just wanted to bring this to light Love is Love
Hail Zeus Hail Agares

This is evidence of Ancient Egypt trans woman union with wife

 

[Kuka]

I’ll address this separately; as far as spirituality is concerned, it doesn’t matter.

As far as science is concerned, sex between two men is bad for your health.

LOL

it is not, the promiscuity, which has in scientific literature the ghetto term MSM (Men who have Sex with Men) tends to bring higher rates of STDs
This is only of the few problems, for the rest it's just sex nothing else.

 

[NG Tyler Tekton]

Some traumas you cannot see the forest through the trees and requires external help.

 

[Hidden Warrior [SG]]

This is evidence of Ancient Egypt trans woman union with wife

This is not an evidence of any kind.
First, it's a statue representation, which may not represent the real constitution of a person. Second, most importantly, that statue represents Akhenaten, one of the worst offenders of the Gods, banished from the history of Egypt for his crimes. Pure Izfet manifestation.
What is your goal in sharing these images? What do you want to communicate to us?

 

[MageSurpent666]

Greetings Brothers and Sister in Zevism
Just wanted to bring this to light Love is Love
Hail Zeus Hail Agares

 

[MageSurpent666]

Ancient Greece Greetings Brothers and Sister in Zevism I apply understanding to this Behavior and finding out that it was acceptable In Ancient Greece to transform ones Self . Freedom with understanding Hail Zeus Hail Baal Hail Agares

 

[hailourtruegod]

Ancient Greece Greetings Brothers and Sister in Zevism I apply understanding to this Behavior and finding out that it was acceptable In Ancient Greece to transform ones Self . Freedom with understanding Hail Zeus Hail Baal Hail Agares

Why don't you provide actual descriptive proof that these are what you say they are? You make constant vague posts and we don't reply because there's nothing tangible to reply to. This isn't your venting forum so please start engaging in actual spiritual topics. These pictures, and us accepting or not accepting trans isn't going to get you closer to a Theosphoros level. Proper practice and involvement in the community with actual helpful posts to help you or others grow and advance is a better route than what youre currently doing.

Better yet, study this post. Once your done, read it again.

Διπλῆ Ἄγνοια: Double Ignorance of Proclus - When One Is Ignorant of the Fact That One Is Ignorant

Διπλῆ Ἄγνοια Double Ignorance author: High Priest Zevios Metathronos When One Is Ignorant of the Fact That One Is Ignorant. The Gateway to Zevism: Proclus on the First Prison of the Soul, the Andrapod and the Seeker, and the Sting That Sets Free. Most people who hear about Zevism, theurgy...

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Last but not least, please start using proper wording and spelling correctly. Even if English isnt your first language there is no excuse to not revise your post beforehand.

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

Transgenderism is mental illness it is very clear that the op needs help. Transgenderism should not be promoted here nor should anyone's lifestyle be flaunted or pushed in anyone's face. As for other comments in this post I feel like it's starting to become clear to me that people like me are no longer wanted in these forms anymore. I've detected homophobic sentiments before from members but it was very subtle.

If you want to close your mind off to the fact that homosexuality is not new your minds will blown to know that sappho was actually a lesbian. Where do you think the term sapphic came from?? There's a lot of people here with residual abrahamic programming that think homosexuality is disgusting. There is a difference between that and pushing back against the degenerate lgbtq agenda. My patients only go so far for the latter. See ya.

 

[Nikólaos666]

Transgenderism is mental illness it is very clear that the op needs help. Transgenderism should not be promoted here nor should anyone's lifestyle be flaunted or pushed in anyone's face. As for other comments in this post I feel like it's starting to become clear to me that people like me are no longer wanted in these forms anymore. I've detected homophobic sentiments before from members but it was very subtle.

If you want to close your mind off to the fact that homosexuality is not new your minds will blown to know that sappho was actually a lesbian. Where do you think the term sapphic came from?? There's a lot of people here with residual abrahamic programming that think homosexuality is disgusting. There is a difference between that and pushing back against the degenerate lgbtq agenda. My patients only go so far for the latter. See ya.

Beside one comment in this thread, there were no other made against homosexuality.

 

[Wotanwarrior]

Transgenderism is mental illness it is very clear that the op needs help. Transgenderism should not be promoted here nor should anyone's lifestyle be flaunted or pushed in anyone's face. As for other comments in this post I feel like it's starting to become clear to me that people like me are no longer wanted in these forms anymore. I've detected homophobic sentiments before from members but it was very subtle.

If you want to close your mind off to the fact that homosexuality is not new your minds will blown to know that sappho was actually a lesbian. Where do you think the term sapphic came from?? There's a lot of people here with residual abrahamic programming that think homosexuality is disgusting. There is a difference between that and pushing back against the degenerate lgbtq agenda. My patients only go so far for the latter. See ya.

The same applies to other topics that are now taboo, although there are exceptions in a very small percentage, so I made the permanent decision that my life and how I want to live it will be completely outside the forum and VT.

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

Beside one comment in this thread, there were no other made against homosexuality.

You mean other people trying to discount that homosexuality also occurred in history because they think it's gross? It maybe wasn't direct but it was enough to see. Like I said it's not the first time that I've noticed these sentiments. I know the ethics in the Temple of Zeus and the Gods themselves have no issues with homosexuality. I should hope this wouldn't change anyway, yet many things already have. Honestly for the past year and a half or so, there are many things that have made me wince hence my life of participation in the forums as a whole. I can still attempt to commune with the Gods and focus on my own evolution without having a group of people to do so. I've been alone for most of my life anyway and I'm used to it, and it's probably for the better.

 

[hailourtruegod]

Transgenderism is mental illness it is very clear that the op needs help. Transgenderism should not be promoted here nor should anyone's lifestyle be flaunted or pushed in anyone's face. As for other comments in this post I feel like it's starting to become clear to me that people like me are no longer wanted in these forms anymore. I've detected homophobic sentiments before from members but it was very subtle.

If you want to close your mind off to the fact that homosexuality is not new your minds will blown to know that sappho was actually a lesbian. Where do you think the term sapphic came from?? There's a lot of people here with residual abrahamic programming that think homosexuality is disgusting. There is a difference between that and pushing back against the degenerate lgbtq agenda. My patients only go so far for the latter. See ya.

If you're referring to what Ĥl·lĥæ wrote, they are not wrong in the scientific sense.

Spoiler: Crude but medical explanation

Semen in the anus causes for the immune system to go down. The semen attacks the immune system or in other words, decreases white blood cells.

I could go on but I believe that is suffice to get my point across that they weren't wrong, objectively, to write that.

But you know from being aware of the lgbtq+ that in reality you aren't identified by your sexuality. Why would it matter if there's people here that don't agree with the general view of homosexuality when we want people to cultivate their souls in the first place.

I know at the end of the day you do what you want but I only say the above so you can have a different perspective on things you disagree with.

We aren't here to validate any one's sexuality. We are here to spiritually advance and build a community where anyone can also elevate their soul thru the ToZ practices.

Disagreements as these should be looked at as irrelevant to what the community represents.

People are allowed to have their perceived educated opinions on topics outside of spirituality but at the end of the day we are here to elevate humanity thru the soul.

You know you are always welcomed here as long as you are honest in the approach of what we truly represent.

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

The same applies to other topics that are now taboo, although there are exceptions in a very small percentage, so I made the permanent decision that my life and how I want to live it will be completely outside the forum and VT.

If you're referring to what Ĥl·lĥæ wrote, they are not wrong in the scientific sense.

Spoiler: Crude but medical explanation

Semen in the anus causes for the immune system to go down. The semen attacks the immune system or in other words, decreases white blood cells.

I could go on but I believe that is suffice to get my point across that they weren't wrong, objectively, to write that.

But you know from being aware of the lgbtq+ that in reality you aren't identified by your sexuality. Why would it matter if there's people here that don't agree with the general view of homosexuality when we want people to cultivate their souls in the first place.

I know at the end of the day you do what you want but I only say the above so you can have a different perspective on things you disagree with.

We aren't here to validate any one's sexuality. We are here to spiritually advance and build a community where anyone can also elevate their soul thru the ToZ practices.

Disagreements as these should be looked at as irrelevant to what the community represents.

People are allowed to have their perceived educated opinions on topics outside of spirituality but at the end of the day we are here to elevate humanity thru the soul.

You know you are always welcomed here as long as you are honest in the approach of what we truly represent.

Yeah just like an imam said once that a woman driving is bad for her ovaries...lmfao

 

[Ài Gōng]

You mean other people trying to discount that homosexuality also occurred in history because they think it's gross? It maybe wasn't direct but it was enough to see.

The info from the video doesn't "discount" whatever irrelevant sexual tendencies a part of the population had in ancient times, it provides historical accounts of society at the time, including from Theophoric personalities like Plato; and also because those things:
*Don't matter on a spiritual level - and more often than not either for celibacy or over-sexuality these are used as excuses of pseudo-spirituality and lying about history.
*Don't have any measure in how "abrahamic" someone is. Re-read the Ethics session.

I've detected homophobic sentiments

So, emotional triggers and not objective judgement - speaking as someone who was also a believer of the inflated claims about sexuality in ancient times propagated by the demoted HPs:

Διπλῆ Ἄγνοια: Double Ignorance of Proclus - When One Is Ignorant of the Fact That One Is Ignorant

Διπλῆ Ἄγνοια Double Ignorance author: High Priest Zevios Metathronos When One Is Ignorant of the Fact That One Is Ignorant. The Gateway to Zevism: Proclus on the First Prison of the Soul, the Andrapod and the Seeker, and the Sting That Sets Free. Most people who hear about Zevism, theurgy...

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Yeah just like an imam said once that a woman driving is bad for her ovaries...lmfao

"Mockery is the social tool by which the system polices its members. Laugh at the questioner and you’ve neutralized the question without ever needing to answer it. The Andrapod often laughs first and thinks never."

 

[hailourtruegod]

Yeah just like an imam said once that a woman driving is bad for her ovaries...lmfao

This has nothing to do with abrahamic biased pseudo science. We are talking about what happens at the cell level when the seed enters the body. This was based on heterosexuals not even homosexuals so your assessment is an odd route.

Instead of showing double ignorance and dismissing it why don't you provide an actual elaborate reply. Or should we go with our feelings when presented with scientific data that contradict these?

I'll give you this much leeway because you are a long term member: for all I know I could be citing something that has been debunked, SCIENTIFICALLY. My opinion is based on what I read so if there is something else to be read about this then I'll be glad to be informed.

But why would I go with the side that responds like you are currently instead of trying to learn from people who are professionals on this?

Seeing this is your response, I feel like i would be wasting my time if I start sourcing this..

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

This has nothing to do with abrahamic biased pseudo science. We are talking about what happens at the cell level when the seed enters the body. This was based on heterosexuals not even homosexuals so your assessment is an odd route.

Instead of showing double ignorance and dismissing it why don't you provide an actual elaborate reply. Or should we go with our feelings when presented with scientific data that contradict these?

I'll give you this much leeway because you are a long term member: for all I know I could be citing something that has been debunked, SCIENTIFICALLY. My opinion is based on what I read so if there is something else to be read about this then I'll be glad to be informed.

But why would I go with the side that responds like you are currently instead of trying to learn from people who are professionals on this?

Seeing this is your response, I feel like i would be wasting my time if I start sourcing this..

You called me ignorant yet there's so many people here that I've seen will try to back something up with science and yet say something else that is claimed to be backed up with science is discredited and doesn't mean anything. Yes indeed there are many things that were claimed You back by science and debunked. One of those was that the DNA from another man stays apart of a woman forever if she has sex. It feels like cherry picking to suit one's biases. If you're saying that this study your claiming is true, was done between heterosexuals what does it indeed have to do with homosexuality.... Which would support my point of..why is another member using it to support that homosexuality is somehow bad.. and that is saying if this study is even authentic in the first place.

I responded the way I did because there's a lot of stuff but I've honestly shut my mouth up about for a long time,As a result I can lash out with great contempt. It's not about you personally specifically or any one person. I lost return to my original post saying that I will not be in these forums anymore.

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

You called me ignorant yet there's so many people here that I've seen will try to back something up with science and yet say something else that is claimed to be backed up with science is discredited and doesn't mean anything. Yes indeed there are many things that were claimed You back by science and debunked. One of those was that the DNA from another man stays apart of a woman forever if she has sex. It feels like cherry picking to suit one's biases. If you're saying that this study your claiming is true, was done between heterosexuals what does it indeed have to do with homosexuality.... Which would support my point of..why is another member using it to support that homosexuality is somehow bad.. and that is saying if this study is even authentic in the first place.

I responded the way I did because there's a lot of stuff but I've honestly shut my mouth up about for a long time,As a result I can lash out with great contempt. It's not about you personally specifically or any one person. I lost return to my original post saying that I will not be in these forums anymore.

*Thus return. Fk speech to text.

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

You called me ignorant yet there's so many people here that I've seen will try to back something up with science and yet say something else that is claimed to be backed up with science is discredited and doesn't mean anything. Yes indeed there are many things that were claimed You back by science and debunked. One of those was that the DNA from another man stays apart of a woman forever if she has sex. It feels like cherry picking to suit one's biases. If you're saying that this study your claiming is true, was done between heterosexuals what does it indeed have to do with homosexuality.... Which would support my point of..why is another member using it to support that homosexuality is somehow bad.. and that is saying if this study is even authentic in the first place.

I responded the way I did because there's a lot of stuff but I've honestly shut my mouth up about for a long time,As a result I can lash out with great contempt. It's not about you personally specifically or any one person. I lost return to my original post saying that I will not be in these forums anymore.

*Claimed were backed by science

 

[Henu the Great]

it's starting to become clear to me that people like me are no longer wanted in these forms anymore. I've detected homophobic sentiments before from members but it was very subtle.

Letting ignorant people get under your skin is not a good path to take. Yes, there are several of them who openly state ignorant comments about sexuality. And then what? Ostracising yourself for that is silly in my opinion when taking into consideration that no alternative Zevist communities exist. At the end of the day, all members are growing, and the human state is dismal, let's not forget that. So yes, of course, there are things that could be said better, could be better not said at all. And yes, a lot of science sucks, and what else. But so what? Let's make it better then.

 

[hailourtruegod]

You called me ignorant yet there's so many people here that I've seen will try to back something up with science and yet say something else that is claimed to be backed up with science is discredited and doesn't mean anything. Yes indeed there are many things that were claimed You back by science and debunked. One of those was that the DNA from another man stays apart of a woman forever if she has sex. It feels like cherry picking to suit one's biases. If you're saying that this study your claiming is true, was done between heterosexuals what does it indeed have to do with homosexuality.... Which would support my point of..why is another member using it to support that homosexuality is somehow bad.. and that is saying if this study is even authentic in the first place.

I responded the way I did because there's a lot of stuff but I've honestly shut my mouth up about for a long time,As a result I can lash out with great contempt. It's not about you personally specifically or any one person. I lost return to my original post saying that I will not be in these forums anymore.

Yes, there are people in general who hold on to one study to suit their biases and that also can fit onto the Double Ignorance if I am categorizing this correctly. That's a different topic altogether.

I was not trying to make this personal and name call but going based on High Priest's recent post on Double Ignorance and Ài Gōng quoted the exact part I was referring to.

Since you replied in a more respectful manner then I want to show my gratitude (and I don't mean to have added to you being upset) by giving you this quick summary I asked Gemini AI.

I have deleted irrelevant parts that has to do with heterosexual sex for obvious reasons. It'll be under the spoiler. Same disclaimer on the crudeness but medically explanation,

Spoiler

Whether semen enters the body through the anus or the vagina, the physiological reactions are largely similar, though there are key differences regarding the risk of infection and the local tissue response.

1. Absorption and Immune Response​

The body treats semen as a foreign substance. In both the rectum and the vagina, the immune system may mount a mild, localized inflammatory response. Small amounts of the proteins and hormones found in semen (such as prostaglandins) can be absorbed through the mucosal linings of either area.

2. Tissue Sensitivity and Injury​

The primary difference lies in the nature of the tissues:

• Anus/Rectum: The rectal lining is much thinner (a single layer of columnar epithelium) and more fragile. It is more prone to microscopic tears during activity. Because the rectum is not naturally acidic like the vagina, it lacks that specific chemical defense against certain pathogens.

3. Risk of Infection​

• Bacterial Environment: Semen is slightly alkaline, which can temporarily alter the local pH. In the vagina, this might briefly disrupt the balance of yeast or bacteria; in the rectum, the impact on local flora is less clinically significant, but the risk of bacterial transfer (like E. coli) to other areas remains a factor.

4. Direct Physical Reactions​

In both cases, some individuals may experience:

• Mild Irritation: Due to the alkalinity of the semen or sensitivity to specific proteins.
• Allergic Reaction: In rare cases, a person may have "Human Seminal Plasma Hypersensitivity," which causes itching, redness, or swelling regardless of the point of entry.

As I said, this is in regards to heterosexuals so that is proof there is no bias against homosexuality. We can only come to the same conclusion happening with homosexuals in regards to the above happening to that area.

 

[hailourtruegod]

Some things are objectively true but, yes, some take the small amount that is enough to manipulate others to believe their biases.

Barbara O'Neil took the above and made it about not just homosexuality being bad in her opinion but trying to only promote sex for procreation.

We need to separate the latter when engaging in these topics and that goes for pros and antis both. The fact that these are the reactions is part of the Epistemot the Yehubor has made. We can't even look into things anymore without someone being insulted and assuming the worst of the person disagreeing or at least having a different opinion.