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Yehubor, "Not all Hebrews", and missing the point of Zevism

Khem Nefermed

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The following are my own thoughts, part of an inner discussion that I was encouraged to compile and share here.

The doctrine of Yehuborim has now been made clear. However, if anyone was paying attention, they will know that this is no "change", and that we have never been the stereotypical antisemitic idea that everyone accused us of being.

As a start, ask yourselves, why did many of us identify as those who "hate the tribe of Israel"? Do we hate Hebrews for being Hebrews? Do we hate them for their nose? For greed?
Sure, some may exhibit traits we don't find enjoyable, and there might be enough of a prevalence of unfavorable traits that we can have a certain avoidance of them.

But greed, narcissism, an ugly nose, are these stereotypical ideas assigned to a group enough for us to label them as Enemy?
No. We labeled them as Enemy not because of any racial characteristics, not because of any personality traits, but on grounds of transgressions against the Gods.

By their historically hateful ideas of the Gods, by their historical monopolistic ideologies of spirituality, they have transgressed against the Gods and the Divine. This transgression does not place them as some sort of super villain of the Universe, nor does it make them the authors of evil in this world.

Just as the tribe of Israel has done this, many gentiles have had, even entire collectives. Constantine saw power in the rising christianity and saw the difficulty of ridding Rome of this ideology and bent the knee, followed by more and more decisions that led Rome into the ground. Constantine was fully under the yoke of Yehubor, and Rome as a nation and elite class itself holds some blame in not taking him down.
The Aztecs used human sacrifices for energy and were warned by the Gods numerous times to stop, and yet they fell prey to Yehubor nonetheless, never knowing the name Israel.

The only things that set the tribe of Israel apart in the eyes of some members are:
1. That the group as a whole is a covenantal union that was originally founded on the grounds of exclusion of the Gods and transgression against the worldwide current of spirituality.
2. That billions of people today follow some form of religion that holds the same exclusionary beliefs as Judaism and is devoid of true spirituality.

However.
I ask you to remove all presuppositions and act logically, and answer these questions.

1. There are many indigenous tribes out there that practice cannibalism. We abhor their practices, but we do not place them on the throne of supervillain. If they came out tomorrow and united under a covenant in the name of some god of cannibalism, would we suddenly place them on the supervillain throne and bring ideas about how they are some supervillain aliens and oh so special?
2. How much influence do individual Hebrews really have in keeping people christian and muslim? I see among their practices Rituals to keep the forces of the Gods at bay for their own tribe, I don't see "keep Joey christian" Rituals. Is it very Zevist of us to say that gentiles are not accountable in the fact that they have fallen for these corruptions, and it's all the work of supervillains? If the tribe of Israel is magically wiped off the map tomorrow, will billions of gentiles suddenly become Pagan? How much do we fight and debate ignorant muslims and christians that themselves dislike Israel and yet won't let go of their backwards spiritual beliefs?

There is no special spiritual supervillain identity of Israel. To call them the chosen tribe of God and to call them some epitome of evil and creators of all evil are two sides of the same coin, they place this random nation on a spot of too much importance.
What those who follow the ideology of Judaism are is, in the end, victims. Do not jump to conclusions and say this means they deserve pity or whatever. They had certain social, local and perhaps biological characteristics that led them down the path of joining together under an ideology that falls fully in alignment with the spiritual void of Yehubor.

Just as many have to this day misunderstood our alien doctrines, thinking the Gods are some fairy tale characters that will descend in UFOs and not understanding avataric manifestation and the higher dimensional nature of the Gods beyond sci-fi tropes, people have also misunderstood us for ages in regards of the Enemy, and the reason for our opposition in the first place.

No, the tribe of Israel is not some "other side of the coin to us", that is their doctrine and their power fantasy. No, they don't have a communal relationship with powerful reptillians.
Aside of the fact that the entities we have called reptillians are nothing and insects in comparison to the powers one has access to from the Gods and the protection we receive from being in their midst, a very small amount of Israelites ever had direct contact with these entities.
The way spiritual truths have been reversed is significantly more simple and mundane. The world in Kali Yuga had a natural pull towards entropy, and this pull was taken advantage of in order to corrupt things a little further, and sway the corruption into a direction that will favor the exclusivist and supremacist ideas posed by this "priestly caste".

If it wasn't for the tribe of Israel, some other tribe would have taken the mantle of Yehubor, or maybe just individuals without an overt communal identity. Who's to blame for this?
Us, sorry to say.

You can put a million Israelites in front of Pythagoras. You can put the most intelligent rabbis in front of Aristotle and let them preach for days. Guess what, neither of them would start thinking that we should wait for some hippie to descend from the sky and solve our problems, or that all our karmic and existential problems were washed away spiritually by the death of a Godman.

Early christians were loud punks that vandalized temples and spoke against the ruling religious powers. However, they certainly did use "thought and argument" as well, they would not have ideologically dominated had it not been for this. Those arguments being used were the same arguments used today, read the church fathers. "Zeus is an adulterer and did this and that in a myth". "You worship stone." "You do not have humbleness." "You offer no help to the prostitute, the sinner."
All strawmen, but they succeeded due to a lack of spiritual education. Islam is no different.

The Zevist mentality here is to take accountability and strive to become impenetrable to corruption.

Most people are offended that we don't attack the tribe of Israel based on some sort of biological or racial matter. The tribe is a covenantal union based on transgressive actions, it is these actions that are grounds for our anathematizing them. ANATHEMA, to mean "an offering placed towards the Gods", when used negatively it means that we are placing these transgressors in front of the Gods, in plain sight, so that They may issue justice. We are exposing their actions.

The current of Yehubor can be considered an energy, a force, a non-entity (entity in the sense of sovereign existence implies in and of itself something of the Gods, individuality is of Zeus).
The alien beings aligned with Yehuborim are essentially one and the same with the current itself, as previously mentioned, and are void of God.
If someone is part of the tribe of Israel and has the same religious alignment, social context and everything else pointing to Yehubor actions, they are Yehuborim and harbor this spirit, and are void of God.
If someone is NOT part of the tribe of Israel and their religious alignments, social behavior and everything else pointing to Yehubor actions, they are Yehuborim and harbor this spirit, and are void of God.

For the latter two, whether they are of this or that race is no longer a factor, it is their actions and essence that radiates outwardly that will expose them and bring them judgement.

Those who, and I will be very blunt here, are here on the basis of hate and opposition as an identity, will then ask the obvious question. Are there "pure" members of the tribe of Israel that are not Yehuborim?

I will not be answering this, because it isn't useful for me, or for any of you.
If someone hails from the tribe of Israel, this question sure is relevant to them. Do they have what it takes to return to the Gods and break the karmic cycle? I don't know, but it's for them to struggle with that.
What we know is that we will blot out spiritually all influence of Yehubor. Whether there are Israelites left after this, I will let the ardent political fans scour the world and count them, but that is AFTER we spiritually win, and the world has the Gods again.

Why would we, who are not Israelites, even bother answering this question? Why would we do spiritual surgery on a random tribe? Why would we care about this one random tribe and give them so much importance?

Well, many here will give some sort of answer, but I am telling you there is only one possible answer for this. That some people misunderstood us as "the group that opposes the tribe of Israel".
Many barely even know why we truly accused the tribe of transgression against the Gods. They know the information, but they have not had the lived reality of what the Gods offer, to know the depth of transgression and to know that this isn't some sort of squabble between sides. They simply have a need for acceptance within a group and community, and exhibit performative hate for the sake of acceptance.

Are we that? No. Not at our core, and not in general.

We are here to bring back the influence and teachings of the Gods. We are here to give humanity the power that the Gods decreed is our birthright. This, by default, implies a struggle against those caught inside currents that are void of God (Yehu-bor), but that comes as a secondary causal idea, not as the core. This is a task of love, of unconditional love for a humanity that frankly, does not deserve this. It absolutely does not stem from hate, and we are anything but a hateful organization.
No longer will we be accused of this, out of no basis, due to political affinities people think we have.
We are an ESOTERIC group, a group that sees the INWARDLY, the notions that are HIDDEN from most people. It's time for everyone to see the plain INWARD AND HIDDEN truth.
We do not worship masks, and we no longer attack masks. We worship the core of all that is good, and we attack the core of what is void of good.
 
We are a growing and evolving religion, it is a bit surprising that people react this way to growth and clarification.
 
In addition to shifting our focus away from the Yehuborim, we should also pay special attention to the satanic societies in other organizations, as they are our potential brothers and sisters who are misguided. By calling themselves satanic, they continue to tarnish our reputation. Someone might argue that we are now called a pagan organization rather than a satanic one, but just because we changed our name doesn't mean that our essence has changed. People still remember who we are, no doubts about it. And again, if we don't take care of these lost souls, Christians, Muslims, or anyone else who offers them spirituality will do so, because every person who calls themselves a Satanist, even those who consider themselves atheists, will strive for this spirituality in one way or another according my own experience
 
we should also pay special attention to the satanic societies in other organizations, as they are our potential brothers and sisters who are misguided. By calling themselves satanic, they continue to tarnish our reputation. Someone might argue that we are now called a pagan organization rather than a satanic one, but just because we changed our name doesn't mean that our essence has changed.
I don't think so. JoS and SS was a special form of Satanism that had nothing in common with other types of Satanism. Even as Spiritual Satanists, we only considered other SS's as brothers and sisters, not fake Satanists. The JoS site said it doesn't recognize or acknowledge Laveyans or Reverse Christians as true Satanists, but as Atheists and Christians respectively. Non-JoS Satanists were often the most deluded, obnoxious pricks imaginable. Pagans were closer to Spiritual Satanism than those Satanists.

So much more now that nobody here uses the "Satanist" label.
 
In addition to shifting our focus away from the Yehuborim, we should also pay special attention to the satanic societies in other organizations, as they are our potential brothers and sisters who are misguided. By calling themselves satanic, they continue to tarnish our reputation. Someone might argue that we are now called a pagan organization rather than a satanic one, but just because we changed our name doesn't mean that our essence has changed. People still remember who we are, no doubts about it. And again, if we don't take care of these lost souls, Christians, Muslims, or anyone else who offers them spirituality will do so, because every person who calls themselves a Satanist, even those who consider themselves atheists, will strive for this spirituality in one way or another according my own experience
Our essence wasn't even in the past or in the first days the "enemies/opposition to whatever yehubor cult", this has been made clear with the change to Temple of Zeus.

Zevism is the Original Religion of Humanity, beyond any labels, any politics. We don't need to answer to anyone.

"satanic", "christian", "muslims" ecc... means nothing, it's just birburim.
However, they are welcome to walk the Path of the Gods, and to change from falsehood to Truth.

Zevism is the Truth, and the only correct Name, the rest is just random noise.

Also, about your profile picture, why do you have an image with AH, and related things to the politics of +80 years ago, in a place that isn't about politics?
 
I must congratulate you for an amazing post.

What is being revealed these last days is something I have thought for a long time:
Who is to blame for the current shithole humanity founds itself in?
Who gave over Rome to empty spiritual practices?
Who killed Socrates?

The "enemy" cannot JUST be a tiny percentage of the population, one specific tribe in itself.

We, the Gentiles, messed up.

We let ourselves fall this far, we are responsible for following the downward path.
Some were forced, but many more fell willingly, and then became further propagators of this.

This only means one thing: it is of the utmost importance that Gentiles right their wrong, and that we fight to annihilate the core of the issue, the spirit of Yehubor.
What we called "the enemy" was but one manifestation of Yehubor, and this spiritual disease would not be gone if they were to magickally disappear tomorrow.
There are other incarnations of it.

So we must fight its spirit directly.
 
I must congratulate you for an amazing post.

What is being revealed these last days is something I have thought for a long time:
Who is to blame for the current shithole humanity founds itself in?
Who gave over Rome to empty spiritual practices?
Who killed Socrates?

The "enemy" cannot JUST be a tiny percentage of the population, one specific tribe in itself.

We, the Gentiles, messed up.

We let ourselves fall this far, we are responsible for following the downward path.
Some were forced, but many more fell willingly, and then became further propagators of this.

This only means one thing: it is of the utmost importance that Gentiles right their wrong, and that we fight to annihilate the core of the issue, the spirit of Yehubor.
What we called "the enemy" was but one manifestation of Yehubor, and this spiritual disease would not be gone if they were to magickally disappear tomorrow.
There are other incarnations of it.

So we must fight its spirit directly.
It's not entirely accurate to say that we gentiles have ruined everything, but I would rephrase it that way - most people simply gravitate towards to shit, and only a small part of population strive to the truth. I think that truth suddenly became unpopular, which led people to decadence, and even now we see how most of the population spends their time on TikTok rather than practicing meditation. We hate the Avramists for giving people what we couldn't give them - they gave them an easy path, while we offer a struggle for our own souls rather than repentance, which automatically guarantees paradise in theirs simple mind
 
Our essence wasn't even in the past or in the first days the "enemies/opposition to whatever yehubor cult", this has been made clear with the change to Temple of Zeus.

Zevism is the Original Religion of Humanity, beyond any labels, any politics. We don't need to answer to anyone.

"satanic", "christian", "muslims" ecc... means nothing, it's just birburim.
However, they are welcome to walk the Path of the Gods, and to change from falsehood to Truth.

Zevism is the Truth, and the only correct Name, the rest is just random noise.

Also, about your profile picture, why do you have an image with AH, and related things to the politics of +80 years ago, in a place that isn't about politics?
I've been with JOS for a long time, and I still haven't gotten used to the rebranding. So for me, Satanism has become a habit and is essentially the same as paganism. And if you're saying that we didn't initially intend to oppose Abrahamism, then why did we need a spiritual war or RRT? As for the picture, I made it myself with my own hands, and for me, AH is a symbol and a reminder that Europeans were once free from enemies
Our essence wasn't even in the past or in the first days the "enemies/opposition to whatever yehubor cult", this has been made clear with the change to Temple of Zeus.

Zevism is the Original Religion of Humanity, beyond any labels, any politics. We don't need to answer to anyone.

"satanic", "christian", "muslims" ecc... means nothing, it's just birburim.
However, they are welcome to walk the Path of the Gods, and to change from falsehood to Truth.

Zevism is the Truth, and the only correct Name, the rest is just random noise.

Also, about your profile picture, why do you have an image with AH, and related things to the politics of +80 years ago, in a place that isn't about politics?
I've been at JOS for a very long time, although I've never registered an account, I've always participated in spiritual warfare whenever it's possible, and not only that. Are you saying that our goal is not to confront the cult of enemies? but then, for what purpose did I participate in the spiritual war and conduct the RRT? As for my picture, I made it myself, AH is a symbol, and a reminder that Europe was once free. That one person could change everything, I don't deal with politics, only symbolism in that case
 
I've been with JOS for a long time, and I still haven't gotten used to the rebranding. So for me, Satanism has become a habit and is essentially the same as paganism. And if you're saying that we didn't initially intend to oppose Abrahamism, then why did we need a spiritual war or RRT? As for the picture, I made it myself with my own hands, and for me, AH is a symbol and a reminder that Europeans were once free from enemies

I've been at JOS for a very long time, although I've never registered an account, I've always participated in spiritual warfare whenever it's possible, and not only that. Are you saying that our goal is not to confront the cult of enemies? but then, for what purpose did I participate in the spiritual war and conduct the RRT? As for my picture, I made it myself, AH is a symbol, and a reminder that Europe was once free. That one person could change everything, I don't deal with politics, only symbolism in that case
I said that we aren't a mere reaction, and we never were, the goal of bringing back the Original Religion of Humanity and the Path of the Gods is the main goal.

Europe wasn't free, only the Temple of Zeus can bring real freedom to the core, as we aim to remove problems in a complete way at the core.

AH himself isn't the freedom itself, and the fact that you are chosing him as symbol, over whatever personality of the past, or rather than directly going to the core of what freedom really is, is just based on emotional bs.

There is no advantage in having AH related things, it's just emotional comfort zone that doesn't address the core issue. Like all politics, same goes with roman empire stans and similar.

Again, we aren't about politics, and having these emotional ties with politics of 80 years ago, not only is useless, but also damaging.

I'm not attacking you here, I'm just explaing things.

About RTRs, these were neccessary things to do to remove certain curses and influences from humanity, to prepare for the next steps, the final goal was the same.
Thanks to these efforts now we are on another level doing perfect crafted Theurgy Rituals to the Gods, and as you see, we are constantly improving and evolving.

About the "rebrand", this wasn't a mere rebrand, it was a complete change of the situation, from a limited context, to an eternal one without limits. I advise to read again those Sermons for further clarifications.

About paganism, we aren't paganism, paganism in general is just about the worshiping of statues, scrolls, objects, aka empty idols, sadly.
There is no spiritual advancement in these. These pagan groups have the wrong approach to the Gods.

We are Initiation into Mysteries of the Gods, it's a whole different and serious level. With correct approaches, and with the final destiny of Godhood for those who work and walk the Path.
 
Europe was indeed free, though not in its entirety.


Paganism is not about worshipping empty items. This is a lie invented by the enemy.
Zevism is about holy and eternal things that are beyond +40000 years of history.

At the very core, Europe wasn't free, true freedom is something we are still achieving.

We are talking about eternal things, not mere historical fragments inside other contextes of history.

About paganism, look at the modern groups of pagan nordics for example, they just drink beer, worship trees emptily and worshiping random axes.
They don't advance spiritually, they just deny any reality, and they wait for salvation in a ragnarok or something like that.

How is that different from the yehubor cult of christianity for example?
Than they say whatever birbur that makes them feel comfortable or safe, and some also engage in sahibur, as they are eternal victims waiting for a messiah to conquer the world and punish all their enemies or some lie like that (or at least the most blind do these, and engage in criminal groups and activities).

Same thing goes for vast majority of hinduists.

This is the situation with andrapoda in the Kali Yuga, that is ending (through ToZ).

I hope my points are clear here.

However, these random pagans are welcome here to actually start walking the Path of the Gods, with the correct approaches, mentality and also Sacraments.

One have faith in the Gods, very good, but it's also our duty to show the correct approach and Path to know the Gods and walk alongside Them.
 
I said that we aren't a mere reaction, and we never were, the goal of bringing back the Original Religion of Humanity and the Path of the Gods is the main goal.

Europe wasn't free, only the Temple of Zeus can bring real freedom to the core, as we aim to remove problems in a complete way at the core.

AH himself isn't the freedom itself, and the fact that you are chosing him as symbol, over whatever personality of the past, or rather than directly going to the core of what freedom really is, is just based on emotional bs.

There is no advantage in having AH related things, it's just emotional comfort zone that doesn't address the core issue. Like all politics, same goes with roman empire stans and similar.

Again, we aren't about politics, and having these emotional ties with politics of 80 years ago, not only is useless, but also damaging.

I'm not attacking you here, I'm just explaing things.

About RTRs, these were neccessary things to do to remove certain curses and influences from humanity, to prepare for the next steps, the final goal was the same.
Thanks to these efforts now we are on another level doing perfect crafted Theurgy Rituals to the Gods, and as you see, we are constantly improving and evolving.

About the "rebrand", this wasn't a mere rebrand, it was a complete change of the situation, from a limited context, to an eternal one without limits. I advise to read again those Sermons for further clarifications.

About paganism, we aren't paganism, paganism in general is just about the worshiping of statues, scrolls, objects, aka empty idols, sadly.
There is no spiritual advancement in these. These pagan groups have the wrong approach to the Gods.

We are Initiation into Mysteries of the Gods, it's a whole different and serious level. With correct approaches, and with the final destiny of Godhood for those who work and walk the Path.
Ok, first things first, our movement has never been conceived as reactionary, and yet it is also reactionary in its essence, which, of course, does not contradict the path of our spiritual development, but complements it because as an SS i'm still a spiritual warior as well. AH was the champion of Satan, and if we take Heinrich Himmler also as Thule society, they're all was a practitioner of what our organization teaches. We are not talking about an alternative reality, we are just continuing the work of our forerunners in a modified form. And yes, if you're on this site, then you're 100% pagan, although you can call it different things, I don't mind. And as I said earlier, I am not involved in politics, on the contrary, the entire policy of the Nazis is primarily according to the will of the gods, especially when it comes to the SS. This is not even my opinion, this is the opinion of the Rabbis who believe that AH was led by Satan, and if the enemy knows about it, then you should know all the more about it.
 
At the very core, Europe wasn't free, true freedom is something we are still achieving.
Of course, but had the war against bolshevism succeeded, a war against Christianity would have followed, meaning Europe would eventually become free on various levels. Since the war against bolshevim was lost, we also have atheism and Islam in the equation nowadays.
 
Of course, but had the war against bolshevism succeeded, a war against Christianity would have followed, meaning Europe would eventually become free on various levels. Since the war against bolshevim was lost, we also have atheism and Islam in the equation nowadays.
This however doesn't justify using images of symbolisms related to AH, there is no benefits in using these or being associated with these.

And it's still about politics and small fragments of history of the last century.

We have nothing to do with these past events, or with any politics.
 
I said that we aren't a mere reaction, and we never were, the goal of bringing back the Original Religion of Humanity and the Path of the Gods is the main goal.

Europe wasn't free, only the Temple of Zeus can bring real freedom to the core, as we aim to remove problems in a complete way at the core.

AH himself isn't the freedom itself, and the fact that you are chosing him as symbol, over whatever personality of the past, or rather than directly going to the core of what freedom really is, is just based on emotional bs.

There is no advantage in having AH related things, it's just emotional comfort zone that doesn't address the core issue. Like all politics, same goes with roman empire stans and similar.

Again, we aren't about politics, and having these emotional ties with politics of 80 years ago, not only is useless, but also damaging.

I'm not attacking you here, I'm just explaing things.

About RTRs, these were neccessary things to do to remove certain curses and influences from humanity, to prepare for the next steps, the final goal was the same.
Thanks to these efforts now we are on another level doing perfect crafted Theurgy Rituals to the Gods, and as you see, we are constantly improving and evolving.

About the "rebrand", this wasn't a mere rebrand, it was a complete change of the situation, from a limited context, to an eternal one without limits. I advise to read again those Sermons for further clarifications.

About paganism, we aren't paganism, paganism in general is just about the worshiping of statues, scrolls, objects, aka empty idols, sadly.
There is no spiritual advancement in these. These pagan groups have the wrong approach to the Gods.

We are Initiation into Mysteries of the Gods, it's a whole different and serious level. With correct approaches, and with the final destiny of Godhood for those who work and walk the Path.


Forgetting or "leaving behind" Adolf Hitler and the NSDAP is the same as you forgetting where you come from. The Third Reich was not just a product of some random "political party" or the ramblings of a fat ass "politician" - it was a product of the Gods, and the results speak for themselves. The war was lost but that's another topic altogether.

All this whole attitude here of leaving our history behind and the struggle of our own people is gonna backfire badly at some point. It always comes to bite you in the ass.

How come everyone claims it is "damaging" to look back and say "That is the product of the teachings and beliefs of the Gods" Why is this total disrespect of the Third Reich now so rampant and widely accepted here? When Adolf Hitler himself completed the Magnus Opus, is with the Gods and IS A GOD. How come we are disrespecting him and all the others who brought the order of the Gods by forcefully burying like it was nothing?

The Gods would never ask the Clergy to bury, hide, or "untie" us from this subject. The Gods would never ask the Clergy to forget about one of their own.

It is one thing to state "we are not a political party", which we never were anyways, everyone knew and understood this. But it is another different thing to say that we must now detach from everything that happened during those years, the Third Reich or worse, the Roman Empire like you say. To the point where one posts a picture of the NSDAP and moderators have to step in and say "we allowed this because of free speech" as if it was a completely alien subject to us - the ones that brought light to the subject, not because of political reasons, but because we were just defending the Truth and the manifestation of the Natural Order, like the Gods intended.

Total disrespect.

There has been a shift here in regards to historical events here that is wrong on so many levels...I don't know what or why, but this is definitely not on the Gods request. It will not be good when we are called a bunch of hypocrites when people study the history of the ToZ because of stuff like this.
 
I don't think so. JoS and SS was a special form of Satanism that had nothing in common with other types of Satanism. Even as Spiritual Satanists, we only considered other SS's as brothers and sisters, not fake Satanists. The JoS site said it doesn't recognize or acknowledge Laveyans or Reverse Christians as true Satanists, but as Atheists and Christians respectively. Non-JoS Satanists were often the most deluded, obnoxious pricks imaginable. Pagans were closer to Spiritual Satanism than those Satanists.

So much more now that nobody here uses the "Satanist" label.
This is partly true, but only partly, do not forget that there is a part of the Zevists who came here from LaVey's Satanism expecting to receive Satanism, not atheism in an occult wrapper. The same applies to other types of Satanism in which people, if they are not complete idiots, do not stay long and come to us. It should be understood that people in other Satanic movements actually consider themselves Satanists , although they really took a shit in their own heads just like the Abrahamic folks. Once you become a Zevist, you can no longer be deceived anymore
 
Of course, the Temple of Zeus is not a political organisation, but Adolf Hitler was a Zevist. We should not dwell on the past, but some Zevists prefer to have NS-related profile pictures. As long as they are not provocative, there should be no problem with this.
It's not hard to understand, AH is a symbol of politics of +80 years ago, and we aren't about any politics, that's it.

If you like any politics for any random emotional reasons, that's unrelated to Temple of Zeus.

Also what a political side decided to do, ecc... in whatever time of history, is unrelated to the Gods, "The Will of God", Zevism, ecc... Those were just the choices and decisions of men.
I already said that Zevism is something eternal, and any politics are by their own nature limited in context and unrelated.

These points are related also to every kind of politics.

Also, be real, we aren't playing games in a server with "bros" or whatever.
These emotional political comfort zones, are just false, incompatible with the present, non-existent and are actually damaging.

But one just takes things for granted, so who cares about doing damage? Someone else will fix it, and probably be attacked on top of that.

I'll put it more simply then.

Whatever politics, present or past is limited in context, and part of another frame work.

There is not a "but I like to cosplay as (insert whatever political side)", if you like to do so, it's unrelated to Zevism, so you are on your own with that.

And I said cosplay, because actual politics of the past are extinct, and what you see now is just nostalgia, underline lazyness, waiting for a "saviour", or as feds leaded movements to trap and use people.
 
Brother Disciple of the Serpent is correct in his assessment that spirituality is the primary objective of the Temple of Zeus.

As Zevists, our imperative is to devote our lives to forging an imperishable relationship with the Gods through meditations and rituals. When spreading awareness of the Temple of Zeus, our objective is to share knowledge of the Gods with anyone who might be a potential inquirer, whether in person or through social networks. Focusing on politics, especially on sensitive topics like World War II, can be counterproductive, given that most people have a muddled understanding of history.

On the other hand, I share the view of members who believe that the Zevists of the past should not be forgotten or relinquished. History, knowledge, and spirituality in the Temple of Zeus are intertwined. Since the dawn of mankind, we have been blessed with great kings, priests, philosophers, scientists, and artists whose adherence to the gods is an inspiration to us all. That is why our Zevist researchers have dedicated much of their time to writing articles about remarkable Zevist personalities who left their mark on history. These inspirational personalities, including Lord Adolf Hitler, who will have his own comprehensive article in the future, paved the way for us.

But yes, when guiding people—especially newcomers—to Zevism, we must focus on the Gods and the spiritual knowledge bestowed upon us, rather than burdening them with politics. Once they reach a certain level of spiritual development, they will have the awareness and courage to approach more delicate topics, such as 20th-century history, which our researchers are currently studying and preparing for the upcoming web page.
 
This however doesn't justify using images of symbolisms related to AH, there is no benefits in using these or being associated with these.

And it's still about politics and small fragments of history of the last century.

We have nothing to do with these past events, or with any politics.
National Socialism is like a secular form of Zevism; they are related. By calling yourself a Zevist, you cannot deny the past as if it were something shameful. Ideally, a second Antichrist should come who could finish what the Führer started. National consciousness is beginning to return throughout the world, when the Thule Society was a society of occult intellectuals. When the time comes, we will also engage in politics on our own terms, just as they did. Do not forget that by using our magic, we strive not only for personal enlightenment but also for the advancement of all humanity. It would be selfish to leave other people behind, as they are still part of our daily lives. As Zevists, we must transform the reality around us, which is why we are scattered throughout the world, even if in such small numbers.
 
It's disturbing that people are getting called out for honoring Adolf Hitler, who is one of us, and fought tirelessly against our enemies and suffered extreme defamation by the JUICE for decades.

High Priestess Maxine Dietrich made it very clear that honoring his name is not only positive but encouraged and even necessary. He is not just some bygone memory.

I understand not clinging onto the past in such a way that you aren't capable of moving forward, even Adolf Hitler himself did not cling needlessly to the past and try to replicate it -he very much moved within the parameters of his modern times- but there is absolutely space for honoring our Heroes who have gone before us and keeping that memory alive. One can remember where they come from AND move into the future. It doesn't have to be one or the other.

We have reached a time in humanity where Gentiles are mass awakening and actually openly speaking in favor of Adolf Hitler and they WANT information about Him. Something which HPS Maxine predicted would happen over a decade ago. It makes no sense that this "censorship" (sorry for the strong word, but I can't think of another way to get my point across) is being done now, just as we are reaching a point we have been working toward for the better part of 2 decades?

HPS Maxine Dietrich would disagree with this. Or next are we going to be told that she is also just a fragment of the past that we must "evolve" from? I am not being sarcastic, I am genuinely asking and voicing a real concern.

Sorry if my words are coming across as disrespectful or accusatory, I have never been so in the few posts I have made to this forum previously, but this situation is leaving me very concerned and confused and I would rather ask about it directly and openly than sit and stew over it in a toxic manner. I am sure that if my post is considered too inflammatory, then it won't be allowed through, which I will understand as my intention will never be to cause problems here. Given that it's also Mercury retrograde, communications can easily come across wrong and cause strife.
 
It's not hard to understand, AH is a symbol of politics of +80 years ago, and we aren't about any politics, that's it.
I know we're not a political organisation, but the Temple of Zeus recognises many Zevist Personalities of the past for their alignment with the Gods, with many of them having been politicians or people in power. Adolf Hitler is one of them.

Our identity should not be dependent on National Socialism, but we can't discard it either. Our image does matter, but if some people are frightened by one person having Adolf Hitler as their profile picture, chances are they are not ready for other truths that Zevism has to offer.

Zevism has always been about escaping the comfort zone. This includes, among many other things, learning the truth about the most important conflict in recorded history.
 
Also what a political side decided to do, ecc... in whatever time of history, is unrelated to the Gods, "The Will of God", Zevism, ecc... Those were just the choices and decisions of men.
I already said that Zevism is something eternal, and any politics are by their own nature limited in context and unrelated.
Do you really put Lord Hitler in the same category as other political leaders? Is he just any political leader to you? Instead of calling him a Zevist who fought for our cause and completed the Magnum Opus under the guidance of the Gods, are we now going to call him simply “AH”?

We should focus more on our spiritual development and work harder for our temple and our Gods. Our main focus should not be remaining stuck in the past. But does this mean erasing and censoring the names of the heroes of the past?
 
National Socialism is like a secular form of Zevism; they are related. By calling yourself a Zevist, you cannot deny the past as if it were something shameful. Ideally, a second Antichrist should come who could finish what the Führer started. National consciousness is beginning to return throughout the world, when the Thule Society was a society of occult intellectuals. When the time comes, we will also engage in politics on our own terms, just as they did. Do not forget that by using our magic, we strive not only for personal enlightenment but also for the advancement of all humanity. It would be selfish to leave other people behind, as they are still part of our daily lives. As Zevists, we must transform the reality around us, which is why we are scattered throughout the world, even if in such small numbers.
Please read again my posts in this thread.
 
It's not hard to understand, AH is a symbol of politics of +80 years ago, and we aren't about any politics, that's it.

If you like any politics for any random emotional reasons, that's unrelated to Temple of Zeus.

Also what a political side decided to do, ecc... in whatever time of history, is unrelated to the Gods, "The Will of God", Zevism, ecc... Those were just the choices and decisions of men.
I already said that Zevism is something eternal, and any politics are by their own nature limited in context and unrelated.

These points are related also to every kind of politics.

Also, be real, we aren't playing games in a server with "bros" or whatever.
These emotional political comfort zones, are just false, incompatible with the present, non-existent and are actually damaging.

But one just takes things for granted, so who cares about doing damage? Someone else will fix it, and probably be attacked on top of that.

I'll put it more simply then.

Whatever politics, present or past is limited in context, and part of another frame work.

There is not a "but I like to cosplay as (insert whatever political side)", if you like to do so, it's unrelated to Zevism, so you are on your own with that.

And I said cosplay, because actual politics of the past are extinct, and what you see now is just nostalgia, underline lazyness, waiting for a "saviour", or as feds leaded movements to trap and use people.


If you want to detach yourself from these matters, do it, but what you're doing is indirectly going against your own people.

Shrugging it off and diminishing these events like it was nothing is simply wrong, It is not just National Socialism, this applies to every other person who wanted to create a society based on the values of the Gods. Like the founding fathers of the US, Marcus Aurelius and many others.

Yeah let's forget about thousands of years of history because "muh politics bad!"

By doing this you're shooting yourself in the foot, and thinking you're above these matters by denying their existence is borderline delulu.

We are not a bunch of monkeys who believe in higher deities and disregard the real world. Part of being here is growing in knowledge, spiritual AND physical. This includes history too, so I if I were you I would start opening my mind about certain topics, and read more.

You say, "actual politics of the past are extinct, and what you see now is just nostalgia, underline lazyness" - But have you read Mein Kampf? Have you read the 25 points of the NSDAP by Gottfried Feder? Have you watched many of Hitler speeches where he explains the problems of the era?

If not, then it is you who must inform yourself. The parallelism of the 1920s and 2020s will surprise you. Under the good, as a species, we are still facing the same problems they where facing back then. Until then please refrain from making these baseless claims.

Then you also say "waiting for a saviour, or as feds leaded movements to trap and use people" - Are you aware that there has been a spiritual war for years now? We all took part in it, where were you? and also, we were instructed here by the HPs to avoid doxxing ourselves in the real world. What do you expect?

It really seems to me you just need to inform yourself more on what we are, what we did in the past, where we are going, etc. Some of your claims are borderline bs, no offence
 
It's disturbing that people are getting called out for honoring Adolf Hitler, who is one of us, and fought tirelessly against our enemies and suffered extreme defamation by the JUICE for decades.

High Priestess Maxine Dietrich made it very clear that honoring his name is not only positive but encouraged and even necessary. He is not just some bygone memory.

I understand not clinging onto the past in such a way that you aren't capable of moving forward, even Adolf Hitler himself did not cling needlessly to the past and try to replicate it -he very much moved within the parameters of his modern times- but there is absolutely space for honoring our Heroes who have gone before us and keeping that memory alive. One can remember where they come from AND move into the future. It doesn't have to be one or the other.

We have reached a time in humanity where Gentiles are mass awakening and actually openly speaking in favor of Adolf Hitler and they WANT information about Him. Something which HPS Maxine predicted would happen over a decade ago. It makes no sense that this "censorship" (sorry for the strong word, but I can't think of another way to get my point across) is being done now, just as we are reaching a point we have been working toward for the better part of 2 decades?

HPS Maxine Dietrich would disagree with this. Or next are we going to be told that she is also just a fragment of the past that we must "evolve" from? I am not being sarcastic, I am genuinely asking and voicing a real concern.

Sorry if my words are coming across as disrespectful or accusatory, I have never been so in the few posts I have made to this forum previously, but this situation is leaving me very concerned and confused and I would rather ask about it directly and openly than sit and stew over it in a toxic manner. I am sure that if my post is considered too inflammatory, then it won't be allowed through, which I will understand as my intention will never be to cause problems here. Given that it's also Mercury retrograde, communications can easily come across wrong and cause strife.

You do well to ask about it and there are no problems.

Yes, HPS Maxine's work is up to the point of doing the initial steps, restorations of basics and so forth. Currently, we are at least 100 steps forward. However, if the situation stayed "there", there would be nothing else; one would only be looking at either stagnation and not forward movement.

Many things she said were correct but limited. Even the power and achievement of meditation and so forth, were limited. Problems with sections of Succubi and Incubi, have led many into insanity, as knowledge was not properly handled. People not ready for spiritual communication were told that they can contact Demons "Yolo" and "Immediately".

This was, if contrasted to the core Ancient Teachings, a legendary restoration beginning; but not the end of it.

I could write a list of these things (it would be huge), but instead of writing a list, I just say these are the products of the time: "Left hand path", "Larping", "Heavy metal season of the 80's" and related. These went only up to this level: "React to the systems of Yehubor". There was no plan for after this besides REACTION. The REACTION as many people needed a reaction, was "sufficient" for them.

Reaction is NOT sufficient when you want to instate the culture of the Gods again and completely. As for the politics, there was influence in the past form to turn matters political. HPS Maxine was used to this as it was normal also in her generation.

The works of the Gods cannot exist by REACTION. They cannot be "Demons" because it's cool and emo to be this in the 90's. They are the ORIGINALS. The ORIGINAL does not define itself, is limited by, or should be limited by reactive forms that harp political narrative or anything. We predate all these narratives, the original DEFINES and it does not REACT. "Satan" was a reactionary form of the Eternal God; still included in one of the temporal forms.

One cannot stay on the "REACTIONARY" form and expect anything but a constant boot-loop. Part of this boot-loop is also the political boot-loop.

Her prediction and the scope of her work, reaches up until this point: The people will wake up. Happened. The enemy will expose themselves. Happened. There is going to be something else after this; Here it is, happening. There was not definition of what would come after this, but there was a plan of what would transpire after this.

No information will be lacked from those who seek it, spiritual or otherwise. However, even the current "reaction" is predicted and we have already moved to the next stage. Now we are on the next stage.

The first tasks are achieved. We have to move on to the next phases and levels.
 
Thank you HP Cobra, for clarifying this. And also many thanks to our brothers and sisters for adding your input, Reading it all I have a clearer picture and HP Cobra's Reply put the Final nail to My understanding. So here's How I understand it. Previous Ages built for us heroes that Used what is available to them at their time to try and save the world. Like ataturk, napoleon, Washington, Adolf Hitler and the latest one HPS Maxine. If you look at these people they did not approach the problem with the same political stance or move because times change and Politics change. Adolf Hitler did not declare himself Emperor of Germany for example. HPS Maxine did not create a political Party to Try and be the president of the United States for example. During HPS Maxine's Time we have entered in an era where Communication is basically starting to be uncontrollable, one doesn't need to go halfway around the world to have followers from that region. This is fertile Ground for unchecked creation of "Groups" or "societies" in a sense. Which in a birds Eye View, you could say it allows the creation of a religious community that is so widespread and without the need to gather billions in resources to create churches or places of worship, although having one is ideal during free times, but our world being controlled by abrahamic influences won't allow it. The point is we will Honor these Figures as heroes without the need to cling to the methods of their time because the methods are merely methods, what their goal was is the eternal part not the available method of their time. Like HP cobra said, we do not wave any flag because these flags will be gone in a few thousand years. If the internet was available in Adolf Hitlers time or George Washington's time they would've approached differently also. That is why the age of Aquarius is hailed as the time when Gods are in a sense "mass produced" compared to other Ages, it is the Age of Unstoppable freedom. You no longer need to be bound to a single flag or nationality to oppose the forces of Yehubor. Its actually the reverse, By clinging to a flag we end up Driving away people who could've become Zevist but are turned off by the flag you wave. Its the Age when The knowledge and wisdom of the Gods can be made available to everyone, and its all one click away. No more traveling to Egypt to get a copy of whatever scroll you need, or whatnot. People from every walk of life are given a chance. Its perfect, ToZ is perfect, HPS Maxine laid Strong Foundations HP Cobra built The walls and the Roof and Now we are moving to Complete this Spiritual Castle that Cannot be invaded by any evil. The ultimate Bastion of the Spirit Of the Gods on earth.

Hail To HPS Maxine Dietrich!
Hail To HP Hooded Cobra!
Hail to The Temple Of Zeus!
Blessed be The Clergy, And all the Members!
 
If you want to detach yourself from these matters, do it, but what you're doing is indirectly going against your own people.

Shrugging it off and diminishing these events like it was nothing is simply wrong, It is not just National Socialism, this applies to every other person who wanted to create a society based on the values of the Gods. Like the founding fathers of the US, Marcus Aurelius and many others.

Yeah let's forget about thousands of years of history because "muh politics bad!"

By doing this you're shooting yourself in the foot, and thinking you're above these matters by denying their existence is borderline delulu.

We are not a bunch of monkeys who believe in higher deities and disregard the real world. Part of being here is growing in knowledge, spiritual AND physical. This includes history too, so I if I were you I would start opening my mind about certain topics, and read more.

You say, "actual politics of the past are extinct, and what you see now is just nostalgia, underline lazyness" - But have you read Mein Kampf? Have you read the 25 points of the NSDAP by Gottfried Feder? Have you watched many of Hitler speeches where he explains the problems of the era?

If not, then it is you who must inform yourself. The parallelism of the 1920s and 2020s will surprise you. Under the good, as a species, we are still facing the same problems they where facing back then. Until then please refrain from making these baseless claims.

Then you also say "waiting for a saviour, or as feds leaded movements to trap and use people" - Are you aware that there has been a spiritual war for years now? We all took part in it, where were you? and also, we were instructed here by the HPs to avoid doxxing ourselves in the real world. What do you expect?

It really seems to me you just need to inform yourself more on what we are, what we did in the past, where we are going, etc. Some of your claims are borderline bs, no offence
Brilliant answer my brother
 


How can we advance and grow if someone comes here and immediately is scared off because a bunch of members talk about old history? There is nothing to gain from associating ourselves with politics when it distracts from what ToZ can become.

It does not matter to frame it as "physical growth" because it is still not constructive for you or anyone else.

What actions grow us as a Temple of the Gods? Ask yourself this for everything here.

You understand people will not come here and not connect themselves with Gods like Zeus, Apollo, or Aphrodite, who will drive massive change and social advancement? That is what the tradeoff is here. The political discussions are meaningless in comparison.
 
If you want to detach yourself from these matters, do it, but what you're doing is indirectly going against your own people.

Shrugging it off and diminishing these events like it was nothing is simply wrong, It is not just National Socialism, this applies to every other person who wanted to create a society based on the values of the Gods. Like the founding fathers of the US, Marcus Aurelius and many others.

Yeah let's forget about thousands of years of history because "muh politics bad!"

By doing this you're shooting yourself in the foot, and thinking you're above these matters by denying their existence is borderline delulu.

We are not a bunch of monkeys who believe in higher deities and disregard the real world. Part of being here is growing in knowledge, spiritual AND physical. This includes history too, so I if I were you I would start opening my mind about certain topics, and read more.

You say, "actual politics of the past are extinct, and what you see now is just nostalgia, underline lazyness" - But have you read Mein Kampf? Have you read the 25 points of the NSDAP by Gottfried Feder? Have you watched many of Hitler speeches where he explains the problems of the era?

If not, then it is you who must inform yourself. The parallelism of the 1920s and 2020s will surprise you. Under the good, as a species, we are still facing the same problems they where facing back then. Until then please refrain from making these baseless claims.

Then you also say "waiting for a saviour, or as feds leaded movements to trap and use people" - Are you aware that there has been a spiritual war for years now? We all took part in it, where were you? and also, we were instructed here by the HPs to avoid doxxing ourselves in the real world. What do you expect?

It really seems to me you just need to inform yourself more on what we are, what we did in the past, where we are going, etc. Some of your claims are borderline bs, no offence

Fight for your people by wearing black leather all you want.
We're here to promote the Gods, and these kinds of discussions associate us with the wrong crowds and draw people away.

Anyone watching over us from above would understand this and want us to proceed with an eye for the future, not the past.
 
How can we advance and grow if someone comes here and immediately is scared off because a bunch of members talk about old history?
Didn’t stop you. Nor me. Nor 90 percent of the Brothers and Sisters. And it wasn’t like I was an “edgy Nazi who felt at home” when i discovered the JoS. In fact, i was indifferent towards it. I just didn’t care.

But if the few who might get scared and chicken out at the very mention of Adolf Hitler are very important to us, to the point that we shall just forget it all, then so be it. I know that i will certainly never forget. But if the forum rules command to not mention the great people of our history, i will refrain from mentioning them.
 
How can we advance and grow if someone comes here and immediately is scared off because a bunch of members talk about old history? There is nothing to gain from associating ourselves with politics when it distracts from what ToZ can become.

It does not matter to frame it as "physical growth" because it is still not constructive for you or anyone else.

What actions grow us as a Temple of the Gods? Ask yourself this for everything here.

You understand people will not come here and not connect themselves with Gods like Zeus, Apollo, or Aphrodite, who will drive massive change and social advancement? That is what the tradeoff is here. The political discussions are meaningless in comparison.

The same way old members came here brother. The same way you and I stayed here for years on end.

This is fishy behaviour from you. Neglecting history now? What's next, abolish racial consciousness cause visitors might run away? What the fuck man

This isn't even about Nazism or politics anymore, this weakling stance will not attract people that will endure for years here. It will attract visitors who might feel cozy for a while. Then they will leave at the next flashy trend.

I tell you what, massive social change and advancement will NOT come from people without firm grounds on history, the Gods, physical strength and mental resilience. What you're doing, will only attract tourists, weaklings and overall faggots who cannot open their mind to the Truth of historical events. - I see this pattern everywhere. Sad to see it infected this place now.

When I was new here I was homophobic, had idiotic views on women, and still believed the Holohoax was true. It took me a year to open my mind about the nature of homosexuality, like, I really had to grow up and accept it. It also took me months to accept the fact that women weren't just kitchen whores. The same fucking way I deprogrammed, so can anyone else. Stop this faggitizing this place and instead focus on bringing real quality members.

Like who cares about politics. But when talk about NS stuff at least respect it. If it wasn't for them we would be in a gulag kneeling before the yehubor in the cross...

To triumph, a strong and unshakable fist is needed. This newish stance from you and others only shows weakness.
 
To add. The masses that you try to cater to right don't like joining a bunch of weaklings, the masses like following the unbreakable conviction of a leader.

It doesn't matter how legit we are, or how accurate the information provided here is. You show weakness you're dust.

What is all this talk about reaching the Gods and etc when you are not ALLOWED TO TALK OR NAME ONE OF THEM?????

Did the enemy put a price on your head? This is NOT normal.
 

The new spiritual tools by HPHC are a massive advancement on identification and defense against the enemy. Anyone of our past, like HPS Maxine, are surely proud of this.

Not sure how many different ways this has to be explained to you; being given these tools is like now having a DNA analysis tool, whilst you are complaining that you liked your label maker instead, and people that do not use label makers like the old days are weak, etc.

Yehubor and associated terms name the crime directly and justly, more accurately. It enables greater security and enforcement. It is like the police now having access to a finger print device, but you say you wish to use photographs instead. The new tool gives you greater accuracy to label criminals; you are insisting on a worse option.

Instead of understanding the new tool you are given, which will enable greater victories, you are trying to riot, make claims of weakness, and so on.

About other claims of appeal to history and "unshakeable conviction": yes, what HPHC did now, even despite it would cause people to react poorly, will go down in the history books as a strong and momentous development for our side.

But if the few who might get scared and chicken out at the very mention of Adolf Hitler are very important to us,

Please understand you are referring to 99.9% of people on earth with this. Let us be realistic.
 
For the latter two, whether they are of this or that race is no longer a factor, it is their actions and essence that radiates outwardly that will expose them and bring them judgement.

Those who, and I will be very blunt here, are here on the basis of hate and opposition as an identity, will then ask the obvious question. Are there "pure" members of the tribe of Israel that are not Yehuborim?

I will not be answering this, because it isn't useful for me, or for any of you.
The last thing i would see here is 5th column alliance yehudim addition. Nah ill pass and so would any sensible zevist here. These people have destroyed everything they have ever infiltrated and i would be utterly DISGUSTED. Yeah the TOZ making exceptions for Yehuborim....that will be the day.
 
People believe they are losing their ability to name a threat. This is not true. Who said you cannot call a Yehubor when you see it directly? Nobody said you cannot. HP has enabled us by his insight to speak with greater clarity than we could ever do so before.

By calling out the negative ACTION, this prevents a person from hiding behind their identity as a shield. This is striking deeper and more clearly; people know and see this as justice. No court in the world sentences based on identity, they judge on action.

HP has given us a verbal power over all of our enemies, regardless of who or what background they claim to be from. We can now name them with an unshakeable label, through the clarity on the matter provided to us by HP, drawn down from the GODS directly.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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