Brown Eyes and Brown Hair

[Stormblood]

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I don't really trust DNA technology nowadays. My opinion is that it can be loaded with loads of nonsense, just like many European will be made to Ashkenazi blood when they don't. I don't why they could not make up lies about the DNA of certain ancient populations... on purpose to confuse people. Berbers are not even that ancient of a population. They are post-diluvian and from way after the Golden Age of Ancient Egypt.

I think we should agree on definitions first, as there is mismatch between what the website considers brown and what I and you consider brown.

Brown for me is according to the Fitzpatrick scale here. Type V. While that website seems to have light brown at III, medium brown at IV and dark brown at V.

Fair for me is type II on the scale, while type I is pale, type III is medium and starts being tan in some ways, and type IV is olive.

What is fair for you according to the scale? What is brown for you according to the scale? You can also use the Von Luschan numbers if you prefer. In that case, for me we have:

Pale: 1-11
Fair: 12-14
Medium: 15-18
Tan/Olive: 19-26
Brown: 27-34
Black: 35-36

Skin is not the only variable. If anything, it's not even the main variable. There are people born from a pale White and a Black man whose skin is pale, with freckles, red hair and fair eyes, yet their bone structure and the rest of their somatic traits tell you they are almost exclusively black.

Ancient Romans and Ancient Greek were also not "medwhite" from what I know: they were mostly pale and fair Whites up until the mixing started. Brown and black hair come from Genghis Khan raping Eastern Europe, and from mixes with black/brown people in the South. They did not exist in Whites before that, just like body hair only existed on armpits, forearms, legs and pubes before the widespread mixing and spiritual degeneration. After the decline of Ancient Egypt, Northern Africa was already mixed to a great degree. I don't know if the mix was stable already or not. Further mixing between Northern Africans at that point and Southern Europeans gave rise to the Mediterranid subrace, which is basically medium and tan/olive Whites. Most fair and pale Whites are unable to tan by nature, contrary to popular beliefs that Southern Europeans are Nordic people with a tan. Many, however, in lieu of climatic changes, have adapted to tan over generations. Most of them still don't live in Southern Europe and don't look like Mediterranid people at all. Mutations and devolution (just like evolution) bring a lot of changes compared to the original prototypes the Gods created.

 

[Shadowcat]

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I don't really trust DNA technology nowadays. My opinion is that it can be loaded with loads of nonsense, just like many European will be made to Ashkenazi blood when they don't. I don't why they could not make up lies about the DNA of certain ancient populations... on purpose to confuse people. Berbers are not even that ancient of a population. They are post-diluvian and from way after the Golden Age of Ancient Egypt.

I think we should agree on definitions first, as there is mismatch between what the website considers brown and what I and you consider brown.

Brown for me is according to the Fitzpatrick scale here. Type V. While that website seems to have light brown at III, medium brown at IV and dark brown at V.

Fair for me is type II on the scale, while type I is pale, type III is medium and starts being tan in some ways, and type IV is olive.

What is fair for you according to the scale? What is brown for you according to the scale? You can also use the Von Luschan numbers if you prefer. In that case, for me we have:

Pale: 1-11
Fair: 12-14
Medium: 15-18
Tan/Olive: 19-26
Brown: 27-34
Black: 35-36

Skin is not the only variable. If anything, it's not even the main variable. There are people born from a pale White and a Black man whose skin is pale, with freckles, red hair and fair eyes, yet their bone structure and the rest of their somatic traits tell you they are almost exclusively black.

Ancient Romans and Ancient Greek were also not "medwhite" from what I know: they were mostly pale and fair Whites up until the mixing started. Brown and black hair come from Genghis Khan raping Eastern Europe, and from mixes with black/brown people in the South. They did not exist in Whites before that, just like body hair only existed on armpits, forearms, legs and pubes before the widespread mixing and spiritual degeneration. After the decline of Ancient Egypt, Northern Africa was already mixed to a great degree. I don't know if the mix was stable already or not. Further mixing between Northern Africans at that point and Southern Europeans gave rise to the Mediterranid subrace, which is basically medium and tan/olive Whites. Most fair and pale Whites are unable to tan by nature, contrary to popular beliefs that Southern Europeans are Nordic people with a tan. Many, however, in lieu of climatic changes, have adapted to tan over generations. Most of them still don't live in Southern Europe and don't look like Mediterranid people at all. Mutations and devolution (just like evolution) bring a lot of changes compared to the original prototypes the Gods created.

If you want to follow this scale then i would say 28 and above is "brown" that doesnt naturally occur in whites, unless they are mixed. 27 perhaps, but moreso with a dark tan than with natural skin color...but their skin would have to be around a 25 to 26 in the first place to tan to a 27 shade.

I do know that skin tone is far from the main let alone the only factor, which is why i also mentioned me noting bone and skull structure in some of my examples. Back when i was new, Cobra also confirmed to me that phonecians where not too different than southern day Europeans, which no are not nordic, But many have still retained some genes to some degree from this phenotype throughout this region to present day.

 

[Stormblood]

If you want to follow this scale then i would say 28 and above is "brown" that doesnt naturally occur in whites, unless they are mixed. 27 perhaps, but moreso with a dark tan than with natural skin color...but their skin would have to be around a 25 to 26 in the first place to tan to a 27 shade.

I do know that skin tone is far from the main let alone the only factor, which is why i also mentioned me noting bone and skull structure in some of my examples. Back when i was new, Cobra also confirmed to me that phonecians where not too different than southern day Europeans, which no are not nordic, But many have still retained some genes to some degree from this phenotype throughout this region to present day.

Then we are in agreement that Southern European people, Middle Eastern people and North Africans are not brown. It's just that website that considers them light brown for some reason.

Phoenicians emerged in 3000 BCE according to popular narrative, so definitely post-diluvian according to my definition. The Flavian dynasty is already in the Common Era. Canaanites were before and they were completely exterminated by the enemy, as far as I know. One of the genocides they committed back then.

Not too different can mean many things, and I'm not sure why they are called Phoenicians, as I don't think have any proper relationship with the phoenix/bennu. Maybe their Tutelary Deity was Lord Phenex.

Anyway, discussing about this beyond a certain point is pointless, until we have proper DNA technology and unbiased research on the matter.

 

[Shadowcat]

If you want to follow this scale then i would say 28 and above is "brown" that doesnt naturally occur in whites, unless they are mixed. 27 perhaps, but moreso with a dark tan than with natural skin color...but their skin would have to be around a 25 to 26 in the first place to tan to a 27 shade.

I do know that skin tone is far from the main let alone the only factor, which is why i also mentioned me noting bone and skull structure in some of my examples. Back when i was new, Cobra also confirmed to me that phonecians where not too different than southern day Europeans, which no are not nordic, But many have still retained some genes to some degree from this phenotype throughout this region to present day.

Then we are in agreement that Southern European people, Middle Eastern people and North Africans are not brown. It's just that website that considers them light brown for some reason.

Phoenicians emerged in 3000 BCE according to popular narrative, so definitely post-diluvian according to my definition. The Flavian dynasty is already in the Common Era. Canaanites were before and they were completely exterminated by the enemy, as far as I know. One of the genocides they committed back then.

Not too different can mean many things, and I'm not sure why they are called Phoenicians, as I don't think have any proper relationship with the phoenix/bennu. Maybe their Tutelary Deity was Lord Phenex.

Anyway, discussing about this beyond a certain point is pointless, until we have proper DNA technology and unbiased research on the matter.

The phoenecians were named so possibly because of their invention of purple dye. It was a name given to them by the Greeks. It is said before that they called themselves,Kenaani or Kinaani, "canaanites" or "from Canaan." They are descended from the Canaanites. Phoenicia encompassed what is present day Palestine, Lebanon and Syria and was called the land of Canaan. All Lebanese in school are taught about phoenecian/canaanite history and so was my father. At any rate, Many lebanese will tell you "we are not arab we are phoenecian", esp the xtians. One of the biggest misconceptions was that they were semitic which is enemy bullshit.

Maybe their Tutelary Deity was Lord Phenex.

To my knowledge yes he was one of their Gods, Along with Beelzebub and Astarte. This could very well also be another possible origin of their name.

 

[Stormblood]

The phoenecians were named so possibly because of their invention of purple dye. It was a name given to them by the Greeks. It is said before that they called themselves,Kenaani or Kinaani, "canaanites" or "from Canaan." They are descended from the Canaanites. Phoenicia encompassed what is present day Palestine, Lebanon and Syria and was called the land of Canaan. All Lebanese in school are taught about phoenecian/canaanite history and so was my father. At any rate, Many lebanese will tell you "we are not arab we are phoenecian", esp the xtians. One of the biggest misconceptions was that they were semitic which is enemy bullshit.

Maybe their Tutelary Deity was Lord Phenex.

To my knowledge yes he was one of their Gods, Along with Beelzebub and Astarte. This could very well also be another possible origin of their name.

I mentioned Lord Phenex because his name comes from Latin and directly translates to Phoenix, which is also one of the translations of the Greek name of Phoenicians. The purple like deals with one of the allegories represented by the Phoenix: the Phoenix is the awakened kundalini who has ascended to the crown. The crown chakra is purple. So, one way to symbolically represent the kundalini sitting on her throne is to say that it's purple in colour or has been dyed purple. Royal purple is the colour of kingship, stemming from the fact its ruled by the planet Jupiter. Royal blue in another colour of kingship, being of Jupiter, and also associated in general with our Gods. The fact that Jupiter is symbolically considered the "High Priest of the Gods" also explains the concept of Priest-Kings in Golden Age civilisations and why the spiritual caste was the royal caste. It all relates to the crown chakra and it being the throne of our kundalini, but I am digressing too much here.

I think Canaan relates to Kenaz/Kaun, the rune, which is also intimately related to the concept I explained above. The kundalini is, after all, the guiding light/torch that Father Satan and the Gods left inside of us and it's our duty to light it / make it shine, leading us to "salvation" and the purpose of our creation. Kaun can be used to work with the kundalini. One interesting - but digressive - fact I thought about right now is how the symbolism of the torch is related to the Goddess Hecate, who lights the path between the realms (Olympus/crown/upper chakras, Earth/middle chakra, Underworld/root/lower chakras) and guides us through it, which is like the rune Kaun exactly and relates to purifying the soul, preparing the central channel for the ascension of the kundalini, and guiding the kundalini up toward the crown, fully illuminating the path/our soul/our life.

I do agree that Semitic as a term is gibberish because it's biblical in origin. However, it is used in geography and anthropology to refer to the autochthonous population from a certain portion of the Middle East, not just the kikes.

 

[Shadowcat]

The phoenecians were named so possibly because of their invention of purple dye. It was a name given to them by the Greeks. It is said before that they called themselves,Kenaani or Kinaani, "canaanites" or "from Canaan." They are descended from the Canaanites. Phoenicia encompassed what is present day Palestine, Lebanon and Syria and was called the land of Canaan. All Lebanese in school are taught about phoenecian/canaanite history and so was my father. At any rate, Many lebanese will tell you "we are not arab we are phoenecian", esp the xtians. One of the biggest misconceptions was that they were semitic which is enemy bullshit.

Maybe their Tutelary Deity was Lord Phenex.

To my knowledge yes he was one of their Gods, Along with Beelzebub and Astarte. This could very well also be another possible origin of their name.

I mentioned Lord Phenex because his name comes from Latin and directly translates to Phoenix, which is also one of the translations of the Greek name of Phoenicians. The purple like deals with one of the allegories represented by the Phoenix: the Phoenix is the awakened kundalini who has ascended to the crown. The crown chakra is purple. So, one way to symbolically represent the kundalini sitting on her throne is to say that it's purple in colour or has been dyed purple. Royal purple is the colour of kingship, stemming from the fact its ruled by the planet Jupiter. Royal blue in another colour of kingship, being of Jupiter, and also associated in general with our Gods. The fact that Jupiter is symbolically considered the "High Priest of the Gods" also explains the concept of Priest-Kings in Golden Age civilisations and why the spiritual caste was the royal caste. It all relates to the crown chakra and it being the throne of our kundalini, but I am digressing too much here.

I think Canaan relates to Kenaz/Kaun, the rune, which is also intimately related to the concept I explained above. The kundalini is, after all, the guiding light/torch that Father Satan and the Gods left inside of us and it's our duty to light it / make it shine, leading us to "salvation" and the purpose of our creation. Kaun can be used to work with the kundalini. One interesting - but digressive - fact I thought about right now is how the symbolism of the torch is related to the Goddess Hecate, who lights the path between the realms (Olympus/crown/upper chakras, Earth/middle chakra, Underworld/root/lower chakras) and guides us through it, which is like the rune Kaun exactly and relates to purifying the soul, preparing the central channel for the ascension of the kundalini, and guiding the kundalini up toward the crown, fully illuminating the path/our soul/our life.

I do agree that Semitic as a term is gibberish because it's biblical in origin. However, it is used in geography and anthropology to refer to the autochthonous population from a certain portion of the Middle East, not just the kikes.

Thanks for sharing this i really enjoyed reading it! I would not be surprised. And yes, this is correct as from what i understand arab populations are also considerd semitic.

 

[Goldenwings]

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I don't really trust DNA technology nowadays. My opinion is that it can be loaded with loads of nonsense, just like many European will be made to Ashkenazi blood when they don't. I don't why they could not make up lies about the DNA of certain ancient populations... on purpose to confuse people. Berbers are not even that ancient of a population. They are post-diluvian and from way after the Golden Age of Ancient Egypt.

I think we should agree on definitions first, as there is mismatch between what the website considers brown and what I and you consider brown.

Brown for me is according to the Fitzpatrick scale here. Type V. While that website seems to have light brown at III, medium brown at IV and dark brown at V.

Fair for me is type II on the scale, while type I is pale, type III is medium and starts being tan in some ways, and type IV is olive.

What is fair for you according to the scale? What is brown for you according to the scale? You can also use the Von Luschan numbers if you prefer. In that case, for me we have:

Pale: 1-11
Fair: 12-14
Medium: 15-18
Tan/Olive: 19-26
Brown: 27-34
Black: 35-36

Skin is not the only variable. If anything, it's not even the main variable. There are people born from a pale White and a Black man whose skin is pale, with freckles, red hair and fair eyes, yet their bone structure and the rest of their somatic traits tell you they are almost exclusively black.

Ancient Romans and Ancient Greek were also not "medwhite" from what I know: they were mostly pale and fair Whites up until the mixing started. Brown and black hair come from Genghis Khan raping Eastern Europe, and from mixes with black/brown people in the South. They did not exist in Whites before that, just like body hair only existed on armpits, forearms, legs and pubes before the widespread mixing and spiritual degeneration. After the decline of Ancient Egypt, Northern Africa was already mixed to a great degree. I don't know if the mix was stable already or not. Further mixing between Northern Africans at that point and Southern Europeans gave rise to the Mediterranid subrace, which is basically medium and tan/olive Whites. Most fair and pale Whites are unable to tan by nature, contrary to popular beliefs that Southern Europeans are Nordic people with a tan. Many, however, in lieu of climatic changes, have adapted to tan over generations. Most of them still don't live in Southern Europe and don't look like Mediterranid people at all. Mutations and devolution (just like evolution) bring a lot of changes compared to the original prototypes the Gods created.

There is no mixing, north africans arent arab mix nor black mix, please do your research, even more than that, studies suggest modern egyptians have +60% dna , and some studies success some mummies have north african dna , also many pharaoh was north african such as sheshonq, add to that the egyptians Gods there is high probability they are all amazigh Gods, alexander the great when he went to ammon temple, he went to Siwa oasis ( indeginous people of it are amazigh) why he didnt visit the egyptians temple ? Evidence suggesting all egypt is amazigh is more than the opposite, i am talking from memory so i didnt recall even 1% of what are proofs of egypt being north african rather than the opposite.and please dont tell me you are one of the people who say egypt is black

 

[Stormblood]

The

There is no mixing, north africans arent arab mix nor black mix, please do your research, even more than that, studies suggest modern egyptians have +60% dna , and some studies success some mummies have north african dna , also many pharaoh was north african such as sheshonq, add to that the egyptians Gods there is high probability they are all amazigh Gods, alexander the great when he went to ammon temple, he went to Siwa oasis ( indeginous people of it are amazigh) why he didnt visit the egyptians temple ? Evidence suggesting all egypt is amazigh is more than the opposite, i am talking from memory so i didnt recall even 1% of what are proofs of egypt being north african rather than the opposite.and please dont tell me you are one of the people who say egypt is black

This is all incorrect. Claims that Egypt was Black comes from enemy reconstructionist mumbo jumbo. They first destroyed Black culture (i.e. Yoruba, Dogon, etc), sold people off as slaves, then pretended they were always xtard, and now they're rewriting it again as "oh muh black Egypt").

Ancient Egypt has only been Black-inhabited for a miniscule part of its history starting after Nubian invasions. Before that, there was no Black Egyptian population ever. Ancient Egyptian history spans for over 10 thousands of years, with the greatest pyramids built in the Age of Leo, so half an entire astrological cycle before now.

It's true that Lord Alexander went to Siwa. It also true that He visited every single temple He could, and gathered as much knowledge as He could. The Great Library of Alexandria was a culmination of the incredible amount of knowledge He assembled.

There's no confusion here. You can read ToZ where most of this information is confirmed. If you need further information of actual Black culture, Shannon has done a great job in the Black subforum to research it.

And yes there was mixing. My claim (not ToZ's): none of the original White phenotypes had dark hair (i.e. brown, black), nor dark eyes, nor even excessive body hair on their torso for that matter.

Finally, the Gods' appearance, or misunderstanding therof, is neither a supporting nor a contrasting argument to the topic discussed. The Gods shouldn't be brought into comparison with humans in this manner. Their value is too high to be used as a tool to legitimise personal biases or theories of the flesh.

 

[Goldenwings]

This is all incorrect. Claims that Egypt was Black comes from enemy reconstructionist mumbo jumbo. They first destroyed Black culture (i.e. Yoruba, Dogon, etc), sold people off as slaves, then pretended they were always xtard, and now they're rewriting it again as "oh muh black Egypt").

Ancient Egypt has only been Black-inhabited for a miniscule part of its history starting after Nubian invasions. Before that, there was no Black Egyptian population ever. Ancient Egyptian history spans for over 10 thousands of years, with the greatest pyramids built in the Age of Leo, so half an entire astrological cycle before now.

It's true that Lord Alexander went to Siwa. It also true that He visited every single temple He could, and gathered as much knowledge as He could. The Great Library of Alexandria was a culmination of the incredible amount of knowledge He assembled.

There's no confusion here. You can read ToZ where most of this information is confirmed. If you need further information of actual Black culture, Shannon has done a great job in the Black subforum to research it.

And yes there was mixing. My claim (not ToZ's): none of the original White phenotypes had dark hair (i.e. brown, black), nor dark eyes, nor even excessive body hair on their torso for that matter.

Finally, the Gods' appearance, or misunderstanding therof, is neither a supporting nor a contrasting argument to the topic discussed. The Gods shouldn't be brought into comparison with humans in this manner. Their value is too high to be used as a tool to legitimise personal biases or theories of the flesh.

Did you read my message correctly ? Amazigh is not black, black washing is against amazigh by the way, did you read my reply?

The siwa indeginous are the amazigh you cant deny that, herodute said that greeks knew poseidon from the amazigh you cant deny that, also greeks took athena clothes from libyan women ( aka amazigh), and the amazigh are not black, the black washing is against us, and there isnt only black washing
Black washing is against the amazigh
Arab washing is against the amazigh
White washing is against the amazigh
Phoenician washing is against the amazigh
Roman washing is against the amazigh
French washing is against the amazigh
All of those failed, the one who damaged us the most is arab washing

Thats why white washing is way better, we arent white and we arent a white sub race, but i dont mind white washing since it goes against all the above , and white washing isnt as bad as the others

Please read the reply you jumped into conclusions, if you see me in real life you will think i am hercules, we dont look like a black , and there is a drawing of an amazigh in the pyramids , and it shows that we arent black.

Please dont drag me here im not in the mood for debating this, i just dont want be arab and black, i dont mind being spanish or german or greek or whatever, the blacks and arabs hold the worst agendas against us so anything else is good, ok i am a white subrace

Do you know its very likely modern egyptians are 60% amazigh? Do you know that sheshonq who destroyed israel is amazigh ? Do you know that jugurtha , juba II, saint augustin ( even if not someone to be proud of) , and many amazigh ?

Even the world africa isnt black, you have been programmed in the west to think africa means black, even massinissa the amaazigh king said africa for africans when chasing carthagians out, and he was refering to berbers ( aka amazigh = numidians = libyans = guanchee etc)

Africa always meant only the north side of continent !! The rest i dont know what it is calleed, check history , have a good day, im focused now on evolving those subjects dont interest me by now, please call me even canadian, just never black never arab, pick anything i agree with you since it will serve against these arab and black agenda

With LOVE,
Goldenwings
( I have nothing against you in opposite , i love everyone here, but the black and arab agenda make me so mad, since here is a big example it makes you think that africa => black, no!!!! Africa=> berbers ( amazigh) , write in google sahraoui women morocco, they look white even if living in desert) WE ARENT BLACK WE ARENT ARABS

And same thing happening in palestine is happening now to the berbers in AZAWAD AND NO ONE IS CARING ABOUT THEM

Have a good day brother, feel free to call the amazigh anything besides black or arabs

 

[Henu the Great]

This is all incorrect. Claims that Egypt was Black comes from enemy reconstructionist mumbo jumbo. They first destroyed Black culture (i.e. Yoruba, Dogon, etc), sold people off as slaves, then pretended they were always xtard, and now they're rewriting it again as "oh muh black Egypt").

Ancient Egypt has only been Black-inhabited for a miniscule part of its history starting after Nubian invasions. Before that, there was no Black Egyptian population ever. Ancient Egyptian history spans for over 10 thousands of years, with the greatest pyramids built in the Age of Leo, so half an entire astrological cycle before now.

It's true that Lord Alexander went to Siwa. It also true that He visited every single temple He could, and gathered as much knowledge as He could. The Great Library of Alexandria was a culmination of the incredible amount of knowledge He assembled.

There's no confusion here. You can read ToZ where most of this information is confirmed. If you need further information of actual Black culture, Shannon has done a great job in the Black subforum to research it.

And yes there was mixing. My claim (not ToZ's): none of the original White phenotypes had dark hair (i.e. brown, black), nor dark eyes, nor even excessive body hair on their torso for that matter.

Finally, the Gods' appearance, or misunderstanding therof, is neither a supporting nor a contrasting argument to the topic discussed. The Gods shouldn't be brought into comparison with humans in this manner. Their value is too high to be used as a tool to legitimise personal biases or theories of the flesh.

Thank you Brother. I hope you are doing well.

 

[Goldenwings]

This is all incorrect. Claims that Egypt was Black comes from enemy reconstructionist mumbo jumbo. They first destroyed Black culture (i.e. Yoruba, Dogon, etc), sold people off as slaves, then pretended they were always xtard, and now they're rewriting it again as "oh muh black Egypt").

Ancient Egypt has only been Black-inhabited for a miniscule part of its history starting after Nubian invasions. Before that, there was no Black Egyptian population ever. Ancient Egyptian history spans for over 10 thousands of years, with the greatest pyramids built in the Age of Leo, so half an entire astrological cycle before now.

It's true that Lord Alexander went to Siwa. It also true that He visited every single temple He could, and gathered as much knowledge as He could. The Great Library of Alexandria was a culmination of the incredible amount of knowledge He assembled.

There's no confusion here. You can read ToZ where most of this information is confirmed. If you need further information of actual Black culture, Shannon has done a great job in the Black subforum to research it.

And yes there was mixing. My claim (not ToZ's): none of the original White phenotypes had dark hair (i.e. brown, black), nor dark eyes, nor even excessive body hair on their torso for that matter.

Finally, the Gods' appearance, or misunderstanding therof, is neither a supporting nor a contrasting argument to the topic discussed. The Gods shouldn't be brought into comparison with humans in this manner. Their value is too high to be used as a tool to legitimise personal biases or theories of the flesh.

Additionally, i am amazigh, i dont have dark hair, i dont have a lot of haie on torso, i dont have brown eyes, your claim is 100% false, i am an amazigh and know my history so weell, there was no mixing, do you know how big is north africa ? We cant mix even if we want , do you know that dna tests almost all north africans had 0% arab gene , and usually we have 5-10% of iberian gene , please understand what i am saying is real, there is nothing that gets me mad more than claiming amazigh are mixed or are arabs etc , you cant imagine how many agendas are pushed against us, and if you check history you will understand that the amazigh were the N1 enemy of rome besides during massinissa where he sided with rome, and jugurtha who bribed rome and then said : "urbem venalem et mature perituram, si emptorem invenerit"