Demonic names

[DarkAries]

Are we still supposed to use the 'newer' names of the Gods(Azazel, Astarte), or only the old pagan names(Apollo, Innana) from now?

 

[Karnonnos [TG]]

I would recommend that you please use the non-corrupted pagan names as much as possible and to do so when they become available for where they are not present.

There are strong reasons for this that are forthcoming.

 

[DarkAries]

I would recommend that you please use the non-corrupted pagan names as much as possible and to do so when they become available for where they are not present.

There are strong reasons for this that are forthcoming.

Gladly, thank you Guardian!

 

[Daemontech]

Are we still supposed to use the 'newer' names of the Gods(Azazel, Astarte), or only the old pagan names(Apollo, Innana) from now?

Just a heads up, Astarte is not a "newer" name, she was called so by the Phoenicians and others too. There even is a Wikipedia article about that, so it's pretty much mainstream knowledge by now.

 

[Daemontech]

Also, I am 100% certain years ago I've read from Clergy (unfortunately I do not remember from who exactly, if Lady Maxine or HPHC) that "Astarte" was Our Queen's favorite name, but I have to say it was the period were many still used "Astaroth" which is a corrupted version of Astarte, so maybe what the meaning was that "Astarte" was favored over "Astaroth", not just "the favorite". I would need confirmation from TGs or Clergy, but I think Astarte is perfectly fine to use.

 

[HPS Lydia]

Also, I am 100% certain years ago I've read from Clergy (unfortunately I do not remember from who exactly, if Lady Maxine or HPHC) [...]

Neither. It was me who said that.

Sorath is Saurashtra

Sorath is Saurashtra As all of us here know, the information that is readily available to the public is either watered down and/or corrupted. Almost all information about the God known as Sorath (and our Gods in general) are taken from Jewish sources. Western occultism… “[…] called in the...

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[Daemontech]

Neither. It was me who said that.

Sorath is Saurashtra

Sorath is Saurashtra As all of us here know, the information that is readily available to the public is either watered down and/or corrupted. Almost all information about the God known as Sorath (and our Gods in general) are taken from Jewish sources. Western occultism… “[…] called in the...

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Thank you for the clarification High Priestess. Reading the post once again, the question is still somewhat open: is "Astarte" Her favorite name (or one of Her favorites), or did you just mean it was merely preferrable over the corrupted versions?

 

[HPS Lydia]

Thank you for the clarification High Priestess. Reading the post once again, the question is still somewhat open: is "Astarte" Her favorite name (or one of Her favorites), or did you just mean it was merely preferrable over the corrupted versions?

Difference in speech, "preferred" means it's what She wants us to call Her, but She will answer to the other names if the person does not know Her true names to call Her by.

To clarify further, Astarte told myself and (now SG) Voice of Enki to call her Astarte or Inanna. We then told Clergy.

 

[Pammy]

'newer' names of the Gods(Azazel, Astarte)

Just a heads up, Astarte is not a "newer" name, she was called so by the Phoenicians and others too. There even is a Wikipedia article about that, so it's pretty much mainstream knowledge by now.

Yes! Neither is Azazel a new name. It roughly means ''The most exalted God/ the most exalted by God'' in ancient Semitic languages, though unfortunately, I don't know these languages, so I had to ask some questions to AI.

1. Semitic root​

• “ʿAzaz” (עָזַז / عَزَّ): The Semitic root ʿZZ means “to be strong, mighty, powerful.”
  • Hebrew: ʿaz (עַז) = strong, fierce.
  • Aramaic/Syriac: ʿazz = strong.
  • Arabic: ʿazīz (عزيز) = mighty, exalted.
• “-el / -il”: In Semitic theophoric names, ʾēl / il = “God.”
  • Ugaritic: il (𐎛𐎍) = god.
  • Phoenician, Canaanite, Hebrew: El = God.
  • Arabic: preserved in ʾilāh → Allāh.

So ʿaz-ʾil literally means “God is strong / strengthened by God.”

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2. Earlier than Hebrew?​

• In written form, the name Azazel appears first in the Hebrew Bible (Leviticus 16, ca. 6th–5th century BCE).
• However, the structure (ʿzz + il) is older and typical of West Semitic theophoric names.
• In Ugaritic texts (13th c. BCE), we find the ʿzz root (strength, might) and il (god) combined in divine epithets and names, though not exactly “Azazil.”
• This suggests the conceptual root predates Hebrew and goes back to Middle Bronze Age West Semitic traditions (c. 2000 BCE).

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3. Linguistic family (like Indo-Aryan classification)​

• Language family: Afro-Asiatic (Hamito-Semitic)
• Branch: Semitic
• Sub-branch: Central Semitic
• Relevant groups:
  • Akkadian (East Semitic) → ilu = god, though no record of Azazil.
  • West Semitic (Canaanite, Aramaic, Hebrew, Ugaritic) → fertile ground for ʿzz + il theophoric names.
  • Arabic (Southwest Semitic) → later adopts the form “ʿAzāzīl,” preserved in Islamic lore.

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4. Conclusion​

• “Azazil” is not originally an Arabic creation but an inherited West Semitic theophoric name.
• Etymology: ʿZZ (mighty, strong) + ʾIL (god) → “God is strong / made strong by God.”
• Earliest written attestation: Hebrew Bible (6th–5th c. BCE).
• Likely conceptual background: older Canaanite–Ugaritic religion (Bronze Age, long before Biblical Hebrew).

I like using Azazel Apollo together ''Exalted Apollo''. Now I wonder what Apollo means. Let me check. ''The oldest attestation is Apaliunas (Hittite text, ca. 13th c. BCE), which most scholars now see as the same deity later worshipped as Apollo. Therefore, Apollo’s name is likely not purely Greek but adopted from Anatolian / pre-Greek tradition into Greek religion. Apaliunas in Hittite → protector deity. Appa → Father in ancient Anatolian (like French papa).'' Interesting.

Everything aside, I'm horrified by how much information is accessible to us that would have taken decades (if not multiple lives) to achieve in the past. Horrified by how easy it can be to deceive with these tools -AI and the Internet- for people who control these tools. The Age of Aquarius is truly upon us.

 

[DarkAries]

Yes! Neither is Azazel a new name. It roughly means ''The most exalted God/ the most exalted by God'' in ancient Semitic languages, though unfortunately, I don't know these languages, so I had to ask some questions to AI.


I like using Azazel Apollo together ''Exalted Apollo''. Now I wonder what Apollo means. Let me check. ''The oldest attestation is Apaliunas (Hittite text, ca. 13th c. BCE), which most scholars now see as the same deity later worshipped as Apollo. Therefore, Apollo’s name is likely not purely Greek but adopted from Anatolian / pre-Greek tradition into Greek religion. Apaliunas in Hittite → protector deity. Appa → Father in ancient Anatolian (like French papa).'' Interesting.

Everything aside, I'm horrified by how much information is accessible to us that would have taken decades (if not multiple lives) to achieve in the past. Horrified by how easy it can be to deceive with these tools -AI and the Internet- for people who control these tools. The Age of Aquarius is truly upon us.

Im happy to use the ancient greek names. In Illiad they spoke to Apollo so high, so divine way, and to all the Gods, you can feel the power radiating from it. Just have to get to used to it