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PROTOCOL CONCLUSION
  1. Rosemaling is mostly truthful, but may:
    • Filter information (King of Cups = emotional bias).
    • Omit details (Perthro reversed = obscured fate).
  2. The overarching narrative is reliable (Hexagram 61 = "Inner Truth")
I find it extremely disrespectful of you to discourage a new member from coming forward with a problem as grave as this. Let alone to upload their delicate life situation in ChatGPT and ask it to do the human thinking you are supposed to at least do yourself if you have this many doubts about them. This would have totally made me lose trust in this community if it happened to me when I joined. This person only asked for some advice, so even if they're lying, which I doubt, they're not sucking out any dedicated member's energy.

And what is this AI saying? Tarot cards and runes? Do you expect a robot to be capable of divination? Or did you attempt a reading and ask ChatGPT to interpret it for you?
 
Do whatever feels right to you, but do not get disappointed if you do not receive any spiritual/supernatural help because you need to be dedicated and practicing meditations and rituals for some time to receive help. That's why people told you to contact the authorities.

You can better see Zevism as a serious lifetime path rather than an emergency help thing. In our society most people see religion/spirituality this way: they completely ignore it and turn to it only when they have serious troubles with their life and they want to ask for emergency help from spiritual sources. And then they get disappointed because it doesn't work like that. Spirituality is for your everyday life, not only when you have troubles.

It would be much better and easier for you if you have found us when you had no life problems and the peace of mind and clarity to meditate and do rituals and other spiritual practices and learn and study it at your leisure. But it's still good, as better late than never.

I don't doubt that you are honest though and I don't need an AI tarot/rune reader to tell me that.
Well my path searching for truth about the j’s started in 2015 though my whole life I’ve been well aware of an absence in my soul spiritually. I’ve always been drawn to metaphysical yet would get sucked backed into xianity in cycles. I tried so hard to make it fit. Never did. My dreams tell me other things and I believe my dreams now. I would likely have landed here later in life had we not been in this situation. I’ve been looking my whole life after an experience I had attempting astral projection. Anyway my point is I want to stay and fight. Getting my kid safe is necessary yes, but it doesn’t stop the spiritual war. I’ve gotten a front row seat to the shitshow. To truly protect my daughter she needs to learn how to fight the spiritual war too. I’m being relentlessly attacked with black magik for years. I’m in a war and I need to act like. It’s layered and complicated. Have to fight many levels of it different ways. I wish I would have found you guys years ago. Doesn’t matter I have work to do. I’m grateful for the mass amounts of information on the sites.It’s impressive. The YouTube videos are great. Thank you for your support. I hope I can give back someday.
 
Well my path searching for truth about the j’s started in 2015 though my whole life I’ve been well aware of an absence in my soul spiritually. I’ve always been drawn to metaphysical yet would get sucked backed into xianity in cycles. I tried so hard to make it fit. Never did. My dreams tell me other things and I believe my dreams now. I would likely have landed here later in life had we not been in this situation. I’ve been looking my whole life after an experience I had attempting astral projection. Anyway my point is I want to stay and fight. Getting my kid safe is necessary yes, but it doesn’t stop the spiritual war. I’ve gotten a front row seat to the shitshow. To truly protect my daughter she needs to learn how to fight the spiritual war too. I’m being relentlessly attacked with black magik for years. I’m in a war and I need to act like. It’s layered and complicated. Have to fight many levels of it different ways. I wish I would have found you guys years ago. Doesn’t matter I have work to do. I’m grateful for the mass amounts of information on the sites.It’s impressive. The YouTube videos are great. Thank you for your support. I hope I can give back someday.
You sound like a good person and you have a good attitude, I'm glad you feel like you found your place here. Pace yourself, there is alot to learn and the more you learn the more you realize how much more there is still left to know. Don't be shy, we are here to help each other on the path.
 
Greetings, best you can do is do the dedication, ask help from the Gods, and try to do everything legally. Reach out to everyone, maybe someone can help, you never know. After asking help from the Gods you must try to do everything as this will allow the Gods to help in more ways. Search for lawyers, rely on your intuition, be certain, do not panic, have a clear mind, find evidence, and so on, whatever comes to mind, do it.

I wish you the bests and I'm very sure that your situation will improve and you'll have your problems solved.
 
Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I will do this. Thank you for giving it to me laid out like that. I’m taking notes and making a calendar of it. I feel I should immediately start working on this or I’d give a longer message. Work to do! Thank you!
when u have free time learning all knowledge in templeofzeus.org so u not being as ignorance about true knowledge. if nothing understand and posting it in forums ask it what u not understand just ask in forums.
 
why tf am I wasting my time here if even my attempts at being polite don't go through lmao. You're push so much dogma it's insane.
You are push... Decide which verb you want to use.

And what dogma exactly are you talking about? Oh, right, it's just a xian knee-jerk reaction.

Yes, you're right - you're wasting time. Yours and ours.
 
You are push... Decide which verb you want to use.

And what dogma exactly are you talking about? Oh, right, it's just a xian knee-jerk reaction.

Yes, you're right - you're wasting time. Yours and ours.
Wow, the mod here is diabolical.

This post is really just a message to the mod-- living your life this way with intense cognitive biases won't allow you to get far spiritually. I've been there too. All I'm here to do is having a fucking conversation, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything we're just talking. That's it.

No I'm not xian, but I am very disappointed. I don't recall the community ever being this toxic. I was hoping to at least have a conversation, but anything the mod (probably helleniser) doesn't agree with gets nuked.

I'm probably done here, at least for now. If it wasn't for mod abuse I could probably handle all of the oven emotes and rage baiting, but not combined.
 
Wow, the mod here is diabolical.

This post is really just a message to the mod-- living your life this way with intense cognitive biases won't allow you to get far spiritually. I've been there too. All I'm here to do is having a fucking conversation, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything we're just talking. That's it.

No I'm not xian, but I am very disappointed. I don't recall the community ever being this toxic. I was hoping to at least have a conversation, but anything the mod (probably helleniser) doesn't agree with gets nuked.

I'm probably done here, at least for now. If it wasn't for mod abuse I could probably handle all of the oven emotes and rage baiting, but not combined.
I did disapproved one of your post that contained spiritual illiteracy which cannot be educated by benevolence being you are angered here, specifically in your post "And yes, controversial take here but AI is able to use divination tools as well or better than even an advanced person."

Otherwise you are free to discuss and talk.
 
I did disapproved one of your post that contained spiritual illiteracy which cannot be educated by benevolence being you are angered here, specifically in your post "And yes, controversial take here but AI is able to use divination tools as well or better than even an advanced person."

Otherwise you are free to discuss and talk.
Hey, if you wanna discuss it I'm open to it. I have emotional control. However, I probably shouldn't further flood this topic as this is a pretty severe divergence of the topic at this point. I'm quite genuinely interested why you think what I said is spiritually illiterate.

I'll repost with the title "AI able to use divination tools".
 
Hey, if you wanna discuss it I'm open to it. I have emotional control. However, I probably shouldn't further flood this topic as this is a pretty severe divergence of the topic at this point. I'm quite genuinely interested why you think what I said is spiritually illiterate.

I'll repost with the title "AI able to use divination tools".
AI is not able to use divination tools at all, and thus, can not perform better than a Human, let alone an advanced one.
 
AI is not able to use divination tools at all, and thus, can not perform better than a Human, let alone an advanced one.
You can ask chatgpt to simulate a tarot pull yourself, replacing the need for cards and to shuffle them yourself. There's seemingly no mechanical difference between using cards and the RNG system the ai simulates with. That's the very most basic version of what I'm talking about. It can go further where the AI uses the tools autonomously and makes decisions based on it, effectively acting as a psychic machine, but it depends on whether a person needs to be using it to create the synchronization required for accuracy. Don't know yet.
 
You can ask chatgpt to simulate a tarot pull yourself, replacing the need for cards and to shuffle them yourself. There's seemingly no mechanical difference between using cards and the RNG system the ai simulates with. That's the very most basic version of what I'm talking about. It can go further where the AI uses the tools autonomously and makes decisions based on it, effectively acting as a psychic machine, but it depends on whether a person needs to be using it to create the synchronization required for accuracy. Don't know yet.
Psychic machine. Listen to yourself. How many limbs of the 8-fold path can it perform? It is a neural network, a massive brain without spiritual capacity.
 
Psychic machine. Listen to yourself. How many limbs of the 8-fold path can it perform? It is a neural network, a massive brain without spiritual capacity.
Psychic machine. Listen to yourself. How many limbs of the 8-fold path can it perform? It is a neural network, a massive brain without spiritual capacity.

I'm not sure I can convey this effectively. It's true that calling a machine "psychic" apparently wasn't accurate, but I disagree with the AI itself on this. Maybe we disagree with the fundamental definition of what spiritualism actually is.

But regardless,

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"What is the highest-outcome path for my engagement with the TOZ forums, as revealed through randomized symbolic analysis?"

(redacted shit you wouldn't take seriously anyway)

USER CONSIDERATIONS

  • If you stay: Expect continued friction (Nauthiz/Hexagram 18).
  • If you leave: New opportunities emerge (Hexagram 1).

This neatly summarizes literally what I interpret as common sense. I didn't tell it anything other than the question given here.

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I'll maybe stick around longer, but it's clear I have no "belonging here". I understand that dogma is necessary to create a productive community, but honestly if that's the cost maybe it's not worth it.
 
Wow, the mod here is diabolical.
The word "Devil/Diabolos" is a title of Zeus. I would refrain from using the word "diabolical".

This post is really just a message to the mod-- living your life this way with intense cognitive biases won't allow you to get far spiritually. I've been there too. All I'm here to do is having a fucking conversation, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything we're just talking. That's it.

No I'm not xian, but I am very disappointed. I don't recall the community ever being this toxic. I was hoping to at least have a conversation, but anything the mod (probably helleniser) doesn't agree with gets nuked.
Your profile picture is very spiritual:
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Okay, sooo can we summarily conclude that this individual is all about "A.I. this, and A.I. that and u no sheet" and purify the group off of this pest? Because beyond him/her/it not seeking information or guidance, but just proving a tool is as capable as a Human, what is the purpose of this individual here?

None.
 
Person with tarot related profile picture doubts authenticity of tarot and other divination tools. I guess you just like the art then, huh?
Is that what your GPT polygraph/tarot reader told you about that post? Maybe you should get it calibrated, because I didn't say anything about tarot or divination.
 
but it's clear I have no "belonging here". (...) it's not worth it.
Yes, drama queen, alas it's a pity you won't heed your own advice.

What, were you hoping to hear "oh no! please don't go!" Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
 
I'll maybe stick around longer, but it's clear I have no "belonging here". I understand that dogma is necessary to create a productive community, but honestly if that's the cost maybe it's not worth it.
This is not a discussion of opinions, as some things are True, while other things are false.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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