Cheap art is not appreciated by Gods

[RespectExistence]

With the means of art production we have today, having an altar of small, cheaply-made objects is actually disrespectful to Gods.
Doesn't your patron God deserve a proper statue? This is for you to answer.

 

[SoulTruthFirst]

and yet some people do make artificial art such as AI art simply ripping off what was already created, such a shame leaving it all to soulless algorithms

 

[Henu the Great]

When someone is destitute and has what you consider "small, cheaply-made" items, are they disrespectful, or are they doing the best they can given the circumstances?

 

[Stellar Starlight]

"Satan/Lucifer represents the common people. Unlike the Christian churches and all of their vast wealth, pomp, and ceremonial show, Satan does not expect his people to have expensive items for ritual."

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Standard Ritual to Satan

 

[Satans Son]

Advancement requires the dissolution of ego.
There's much for you to do.

 

[Lightning_Puma]

With the means of art production we have today, having an altar of small, cheaply-made objects is actually disrespectful to Gods.
Doesn't your patron God deserve a proper statue? This is for you to answer.

So in your mind everyone is rich and can afford the most expensive, over-priced statues, etc.?

Wake up, please wake up. Not everyone is born rich in this rotten world we live in currently.

 

[Disciple of the Serpent]

Advancement requires the dissolution of ego.
There's much for you to do.

No it doesn't, it's all based on the self.

https://templeofzeus.org/Azazel_virtue_9.html

Avoiding pointless arrogance is a different matter.

 

[Basileus]

Don't take upon hindus where they saying that drop of the ego is a somehow "must" in spirituality and mostly spiritual advancement.

One self is important, one should never ignore his self, his needs, his desires. Otherwise one evolves on a bad foundation and will to keep going will lack, so that's how the enemy propaganda and systems are working, don't you ever let yourself fooled.

And as per the items, they are just material items, for Satan, what you've got into your heart, is what truly matter the most for Him, no need for anything else.

Also, in time with continously progress and effort, one would not even need to do rituals or using objects such as a rosary or whatever. Those can and are very good tools, but remember, you're leaving this earth with your soul, not your material objects.

 

[Disciple of the Serpent]

Don't take upon hindus where they saying that drop of the ego is a somehow "must" in spirituality and mostly spiritual advancement.

One self is important, one should never ignore his self, his needs, his desires. Otherwise one evolves on a bad foundation and will to keep going will lack, so that's how the enemy propaganda and systems are working, don't you ever let yourself fooled.

And as per the items, they are just material items, for Satan, what you've got into your heart, is what truly matter the most for Him, no need for anything else.

Also, in time with continously progress and effort, one would not even need to do rituals or using objects such as a rosary or whatever. Those can and are very good tools, but remember, you're leaving this earth with your soul, not your material objects.

The number of Sun is 10, which is the number of Godhead, another one is 666, that stands for Perfection and gold.

The Sun rules the 3rd chakra, and the self, his metal is gold.

Now what would happen to other planets, if the Sun will be destroyed? They would be destroyed, or end up orbiting other stars.

This should remind you the importance of the self, ΕΓΩ (Ego) in greek.

Ego means litteral I, as in "I am".

The planets here are a reference to the aspects of life, and chakras, as they rule these.

 

[High Priestess Lydia]

The Gods understand the state of the world. They are not offended by what small offerings we are able to make, because the thought we put into it is worth more than the monetary amount.

My athame was cheap, mass produced probably, bought it in a novelty shop, but it looks great, reflects my interests, and it's powerful from the charging I've done to it over the years. Sure I'd prefer one made of real silver with real gemstones in it, but it's fine.

 

[Aurora_Sol666]

I don't agree with this, as others have also mentioned. I dedicated when I was a teen and obviously had no money of my own to go and buy expensive Ritual items or decor. I had a very basic altar that was just a small wooden table with some pictures I had printed out and put in photo frames and a candle. Nothing fancy at all. It never held me back and I never felt that I had disrespected Satan or the Gods in any way. In fact, I had many beautiful experiences around that little altar.

It's not ultra materialistic here like xianity and related, with their grossly extravagant "churches" that have door handles made of gold and million dollar sound systems, with "priests" that live tax-free in mansions off the backs of their congregations and drive around in a convertable porsche. Yet, they add no value and only work to keep society oppressed and living in a state of perpetual poverty. Phony and parasitic to the core!!

 

[arem]

With the means of art production we have today, having an altar of small, cheaply-made objects is actually disrespectful to Gods.
Doesn't your patron God deserve a proper statue? This is for you to answer.

on top of all the answers you received, have you considered sometimes it's necessary for people to keep their altar lowkey? to not attract attention?
forgive me and every other person living in a family home for not having 4 golden statues of the Crowned Princes. be serious

 

[Novice Priest Karnonnos]

Also, beyond the points made, the cheap/expensive distinction is not so easy to make nowadays.

A lot of 'luxury' goods are name-brands only and are basically trash not too different from what is found on SHEIN or Aliexpress, while cheaper home-grown brands can provide higher quality. That goes for everything, even things like clay or paint. Not saying this is always the case, just sometimes. Price tags can deceive.

 

[Henu the Great]

Advancement requires the dissolution of ego.
There's much for you to do.

Ego is the tool for the lower self to operate in this material realn in acertain state of consciousness. Dissolving your ego renders you incapacitated and useless, much like a drooling mental patient.

Maybe you meant something like removing misconceptions, learning more, gaining more experience and so forth?

 

[Satans Son]

Ego is the tool for the lower self to operate in this material realn in acertain state of consciousness. Dissolving your ego renders you incapacitated and useless, much like a drooling mental patient.

Maybe you meant something like removing misconceptions, learning more, gaining more experience and so forth?

You may be confusing the ego with desire.

 

[Wotanwarrior]

The Gods understand the state of the world. They are not offended by what small offerings we are able to make, because the thought we put into it is worth more than the monetary amount.

My athame was cheap, mass produced probably, bought it in a novelty shop, but it looks great, reflects my interests, and it's powerful from the charging I've done to it over the years. Sure I'd prefer one made of real silver with real gemstones in it, but it's fine.

An old bayonet can be used as an athame if it is shaped like a dagger and you do the workings to consecrate and empower it?

The bayonet is exactly the same as this one.

 

[High Priestess Lydia]

An old bayonet can be used as an athame if it is shaped like a dagger and you do the workings to consecrate and empower it?

The bayonet is exactly the same as this one.

Yes, I know another Zevism who has something similar and uses it as a consecrated ritual tool.

 

[Gerecht_Ror]

I think, much value is to be given to your actions and energies put in your Rituals, and your daily actions for the Gods.
Would it be better to have a rich altar but never using it, or an altar made of simpler stuff where you approach the Gods more extensively? This is very personal, probably balance is best choice.
I have no altar, just a handmade painted Satan's Sigil on a stone tile with a wooden support, not expensive but made by me with care, pride and intention. I have never received any sign of disappointment for this as I gave more importance to my sound actions rather than objects. But it's my lifestyle, everything must be simple and practice as much as possible.
Sometimes I reach the Gods in the middle of nature, in a wood or a park without any item in my hands, and I feel this is good for both.
This is how I operate since many years and I have received much respect, help and consideration from the Gods so I do not think they are offended.

With the means of art production we have today, having an altar of small, cheaply-made objects is actually disrespectful to Gods.
Doesn't your patron God deserve a proper statue? This is for you to answer.

Anyway your message made me think I should invest something more in terms of altar, which I will do soon, my way.
I am just wondering if my "simple" approach is reflecting on my relationship with the Gods, they treat me "simple" as well. I mean without anything unnecessary, straight to the point and straight to the need/objective.

 

[Henu the Great]

You may be confusing the ego with desire.

No, I am talking about the "I" which is your tool. You are not it though, you are using it. It is a car, and you are the driver. But most people identify as their egos, which is just one part of you.

 

[AFODO]

Material items are not important for the Gods. Altars are all just pleasure for people, eye candy, and a place to be.

 

[Dragon fire]

I use pictures of the Gods on the
Wall with a alter
And how about the astral temple
????

 

[Satans Son]

No, I am talking about the "I" which is your tool. You are not it though, you are using it. It is a car, and you are the driver. But most people identify as their egos, which is just one part of you.

The mind and body together create the ego, as well as the self and "I".
The mind alone creates desire.
Desire is the basic energy that starts the process of creation.
For example it is desire that builds the altar.
It is ego of the OP assigning it a monetary value as well as a the declaration to others as to how altars should be.

 

[RespectExistence]

Material items are not important for the Gods. Altars are all just pleasure for people, eye candy, and a place to be.

If they are not important, set up an imaginary altar or pretend a pen is a ceremonial sword. Download a candle video and run it on your old, screen-broken smartphone.

 

[Visitor]

If they are not important, set up an imaginary altar or pretend a pen is a ceremonial sword. Download a candle video and run it on your old, screen-broken smartphone.

Really? How about doing some important work for the gods? You can start by buying these people objects that you think are suitable for them.

If someone new to Zevism doesn't have a lot of money, does that mean they can't make an altar?

If the person has little money to spend and the altar is made with their best intentions, I don't see why their altar should be worth more than a super luxurious soulless altar

Besides, I very much agree that those who come to Zevism are children who play pretend and imagine that a rock is a hamburger and try to eat it...

 

[AFODO]

If they are not important, set up an imaginary altar or pretend a pen is a ceremonial sword. Download a candle video and run it on your old, screen-broken smartphone.

These things are not necessary to perform any ritual or meditation, but to give a proper ceremonious atmosphere.
If you feel good from these material items, than it's good for the Gods too, but if you don't need these things than the Gods good with that also.

And the Gods will not care if you have a 1000$ atheme or a 20$ one, or if you don't have any.

If you would like to have an expensive altar than let's have it and enjoy it. Whatever makes you happy.

 

[Visitor]

Really? How about doing some important work for the gods? You can start by buying these people objects that you think are suitable for them.

If someone new to Zevism doesn't have a lot of money, does that mean they can't make an altar?

If the person has little money to spend and the altar is made with their best intentions, I don't see why their altar should be worth more than a super luxurious soulless altar

Besides, I very much agree that those who come to Zevism are children who play pretend and imagine that a rock is a hamburger and try to eat it...

figure of the past, the translator problem... English is not my natural language, one correction I want to make here is

What was written here “Besides, I very much agree that those who come to Zevism are children who play pretend and imagine that a rock is a hamburger and try to eat it...”

I meant that “Those who come to Zevism ARE NOT children who want to play at imagining that a rock is a hamburger and want to eat it”.

I don't know why the translator got my sentence completely wrong.

 

[Daemontech [NG]]

If they are not important, set up an imaginary altar or pretend a pen is a ceremonial sword. Download a candle video and run it on your old, screen-broken smartphone.

The funniest part about this is that you could literally create your astral temple and have it visited by a God. It's like one of the first meditation/magick entries in the ToZ.
So I got the feeling you don't have half a clue of what you're talking about.

 

[yoanna666]

The funniest part about this is that you could literally create your astral temple and have it visited by a God. It's like one of the first meditation/magick entries in the ToZ.
So I got the feeling you don't have half a clue of what you're talking about.

I have a feeling this person Is trolling look at their other posts and u will kinda see what I mean

 

[Daemontech [NG]]

I have a feeling this person Is trolling look at their other posts and u will kinda see what I mean

Either that or they've got no idea what they're talking about.
In both cases it's fucking unsufferable.

 

[Aurora_Sol666]

I have a feeling this person Is trolling look at their other posts and u will kinda see what I mean

Definitely seems like a troll.

 

[Cerberus]

With the means of art production we have today, having an altar of small, cheaply-made objects is actually disrespectful to Gods.
Doesn't your patron God deserve a proper statue? This is for you to answer.

It’s not disrespectful. The gods will accept what we can give, and not everyone can afford expensive things and that’s okay.